What an astonishing accomplishment, congrats to everyone involved. Gravitational wave detection and the LHC are arguably the two most mind blowing achievements of the human species ever.
You know what a mind blowing achievement is, using all the billions of dollars in those two projects to feed the starving, house the homeless, and cure the sick. Moron.
I hope you do realize the very internet you're using to type your drivel on is a spin off of CERN, home of the LHC. Which btw, cost something like $1B per year, divided over 100 countries, which is basically statistical noise in their budgets. Not likely we would have cured cancer with that money, we spent over $500B on that and still havent come close to a solution.
P44man gravity doesn't exist. The earth is a flat plane, that's why water is always flat and doesn't get disturbed unless some wind moves it. Yet supposedly it's all flying through the universe at over 670 million miles per hour! But we can't detect that movement, measure it or see any curve to the earth no matter how high in altitude we look with our own eyes and not fisheye lens.
Wow!! You really know no science at all. Oh! I get it... Your a troll.. Sorry for my slow uptake. No more comments from me. It just goes down the ignorance black hole
this is amazing to see such events are recorded and gave us such a phenomenal results thank u LIGO HANFORD and LIGO LIVINGSTON and VIRGO and also the other 70 radio telescopes around the world help to detect the first ever gravitational waves..so far the interesting thing to find out the blip from named NGC FOR 993 galaxy is brilliant ....
Amazing demo of ability to observe cosmic events by instruments measuring various energy waves. When will we have ability to observe waves in a human mind and create awesome waves of bliss?
Neat -O ! Did any of the gravity wave antennas, Weber Bars, detect this event ?Weber bars[edit]A simple device to detect the expected wave motion is called a Weber bar - a large, solid bar of metal isolated from outside vibrations. This type of instrument was the first type of gravitational-wave detector. Strains in space due to an incident gravitational wave excite the bar's resonant frequency and could thus be amplified to detectable levels. Conceivably, a nearby supernova might be strong enough to be seen without resonant amplification. Modern forms of the Weber bar are still operated, cryogenically cooled, with superconducting quantum interference devices to detect vibration (see for example, ALLEGRO). Weber bars are not sensitive enough to detect anything but extremely powerful gravitational waves.[8]MiniGRAIL is a spherical gravitational-wave antenna using this principle. It is based at Leiden University, consisting of an exactingly machined 1150 kg sphere cryogenically cooled to 20 mK.[9] The spherical configuration allows for equal sensitivity in all directions, and is somewhat experimentally simpler than larger linear devices requiring high vacuum. Events are detected by measuring deformation of the detector sphere. MiniGRAIL is highly sensitive in the 2-4 kHz range, suitable for detecting gravitational waves from rotating neutron star instabilities or small black hole mergers.[10]AURIGA is an ultracryogenic resonant bar gravitational wave detector based at INFN in Italy. It is based on a cylindrical bar detector. The AURIGA and LIGO teams have collaborated in joint observations.[11]
Interesting, but what stroke me the most is that gravitational waves were detected (came faster?) 2 sec. before light! Does that mean that they are moving faster than light or they started to spread before light or something else is the reason!?
Interesting..So they detected the gravity wave came that 11 hours before the actual light was detected ? That should be a big clue how the universe actually behaves and how it's structured. Obviously the speed of light isn't the speed limit throughout the universe . Anyone care to answer how this is possible ? My personal favorite would be M- theory . I bet the string theorist are excited about this discovery .
The gravitational wave was generated as the stars were orbiting each other. The gamma ray burst was generated as or just after they collided, and was seen less than 2 seconds after the end of the gravitational wave.
There is a better statistical chance of UTEP and Georgia Southern playing in the CFB championship game this year than LIGO detected gravity waves. That means, as horrible the thought is, almost every team in CFB would have to suffer so many catastrophes they couldn't play anymore games this year. But the odds are still better that happens than what the LIGO team claimed to have discovered. See Wal Thornhill and Stephen J Crothers for the maths on that!
What would impress me is if I saw live satellite footage of the super bowl then a zoom out to see people surfing upside down at Bondi beach in Australia! But that isn't ever going to happen as it would be impossible with all those 100's of thousands of satellites orbiting the earth, right? I mean who wouldn't want to watch the trans siberian express chugging along the railroad tracks upside down while someone else is building a skyscraper right side up on the other side of the world? I mean do people really think as I am in Hawaii people in Greeley are upside down at the same time? wow!
We can now reaffirm why Einstein's alleged field equations Ric = 0 for "outside" a body such as a star are false. In the case of spacetime geometry = 0 the energy-momentum tensor = 0 because material sources = 0 there, yet Einstein still claimed that a massive source such as a star is present in Ric = 0, and according to his followers this star can 'collapse' to form a black hole. However, in the case of de Sitter's empty universe, energy-momentum tensor = 0 because material sources = 0 there too. Thus, material sources are alleged to be both present and absent when energy-momentum tensor = 0. That's impossible! It's a contradiction. Since material sources = 0 in both the equations Ric = 0 and Ric = Λ(metric tensor) the energy-momentum tensor = 0 in both equations, so there are no material sources in either set of equations. Thus, Ric = 0 does not describe a star or a black hole. It contains no matter by mathematical construction for the very same reason de Sitter's empty universe contains no matter by mathematical construction. But it is from Hilbert's solution (the so-called 'Schwarzschild solution') for Ric = 0 that the black hole was first spawned. So the black hole is a fantasy. It is not even predicted by General Relativity because Ric = 0 contains no matter by mathematical construction. Newton's theory certainly does not predict the black hole either because the theoretical Michell-Laplace dark body does not possess the alleged properties of the black hole. -Stephen J Crothers REFERENCES d'Inverno, R., Introducing Einstein’s Relativity, Clarendon Press, Oxford, (1992) Eddington, A. S., The Mathematical Theory of Relativity, Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, (2007) Einstein, A., The Foundation of the General Theory of Relativity, Annalen der Physik, 49, (1916), The Principle of Relativity (A collection of original memoirs on the special and general theory of relativity), Dover Publications Inc., New York, (1952) Einstein, A., The Meaning of Relativity, Science Paperbacks and Methuen & Co., (1967) Foster, J. and Nightingale, J. D., A short course in General Relativity, Springer-Verlag Inc., New York, (1995) Tolman, R. C., Relativity Thermodynamics and Cosmology, Dover Publications Inc., New York, (1987) Weinberg, S., Gravitation and Cosmology: Principles and Applications of the General theory of Relativity, John Wiley & Sons, (1972)
Another major major major flaw in all this which I will gladly point out and wait for more idiotic responses to them, is this. Every single body in our solar system is supposedly bending the fabric of space time, while somehow simultaneously hurtling through that same space time at the totally made up speed of 678,000,000 miles per hour! So which is it, are we sitting in the fabric of space time as singular bodies or are we hurtling through the universe at ungodly speeds? I am going to add to this absurdity, if we are hurtling then that means we are leaving massive gravity waves in our and every other bodies wake in all directions, so how in the hell can you seriously say you see other isolated waves trillions and trillions of miles away? Come up with an answer then I'll ask you how the zodiacs and north star can still be exactly where they were for 1,000's and 1,000's of years when they should have been gazillions of miles out of our site long long ago. Science doesn't know shit about the cosmos, but they know how to keep the grant scams going I'll give them that! Next thing you know they'll be telling us they want 100's of billions to put a man on the moon, haha.
Planets, stars, etc. don't travel through the universe at the speed of 300.000 km/s; light and gravitational waves (and neutrinos) do. And sure, it's a coincidence that there is a reasonably bright star near the celestial north pole, just like it's a coincidence that there *isn't* a bright star near the south celestial pole. A couple tens of thousands years from now it will no longer be true; or, at least, it won't be the same star. Next question?
Hawaiiguy Kailua: Lugubriously, I say unto you, that it is stunning to no end how you're seemingly-incapable of comprehending the unadulterated fallaciousness present within your arguments. Are you completely unable to identify the zigzagged futility with which you routinely-contrast the cherry-picked values of parroted-yet-misunderstood concepts? Sad story indeed. Based on your confused, contextually-unfounded parlaying of certain values which really have no place being framed and/or contrasted in the corresponding manners illustrated by yourself, I respectfully must suspect that you may suffer from an especially-severe, profoundly-untreated case of Attention Deficit Disorder. If you do, in fact, live with such a potentially-devastating illness (such as it is defined within the relevant revision of the DSM), then I offer you my sincerest condolences, and mean no offense. And in addition, I hope against all hope that you're able to seek prompt treatment if feasible, good day.
Sam Burns point me, dear sir, in all your infinite wisdom, to the site which proves gravity exists outside a blackboard, then point me ol wise one, to the site that explains how gravity is created, then Dartanion of ole, point me to site which theorizes a single black hole can exist with matter outside of it. After your complete failure to do so, I'll take your non reply or barbs as proof that yes indeed Rik=0 as it always has:)
What an astonishing accomplishment, congrats to everyone involved. Gravitational wave detection and the LHC are arguably the two most mind blowing achievements of the human species ever.
You know what a mind blowing achievement is, using all the billions of dollars in those two projects to feed the starving, house the homeless, and cure the sick. Moron.
I hope you do realize the very internet you're using to type your drivel on is a spin off of CERN, home of the LHC. Which btw, cost something like $1B per year, divided over 100 countries, which is basically statistical noise in their budgets. Not likely we would have cured cancer with that money, we spent over $500B on that and still havent come close to a solution.
P44man gravity doesn't exist. The earth is a flat plane, that's why water is always flat and doesn't get disturbed unless some wind moves it. Yet supposedly it's all flying through the universe at over 670 million miles per hour! But we can't detect that movement, measure it or see any curve to the earth no matter how high in altitude we look with our own eyes and not fisheye lens.
Wow!! You really know no science at all. Oh! I get it... Your a troll.. Sorry for my slow uptake. No more comments from me. It just goes down the ignorance black hole
Oh dear... not sure if you're trolling or truly a flat earther, but it doesnt matter.
this is amazing to see such events are recorded and gave us such a phenomenal results thank u LIGO HANFORD and LIGO LIVINGSTON and VIRGO and also the other 70 radio telescopes around the world help to detect the first ever gravitational waves..so far the interesting thing to find out the blip from named NGC FOR 993 galaxy is brilliant ....
just proud of being Italian, and of the guys at VIRGO experiment. A new era for astronomy has begun!
Truly spectacular, it's amazing to see how matter is formed. This gives gold a even more special feel..
Congratulations on such an amazing discovery!
What is this music called?
Thank you!
Beings like ourselves!
Mathematical certainty
Amazing demo of ability to observe cosmic events by instruments measuring various energy waves. When will we have ability to observe waves in a human mind and create awesome waves of bliss?
My mind is blown
well done
Neat -O ! Did any of the gravity wave antennas, Weber Bars, detect this event ?Weber bars[edit]A simple device to detect the expected wave motion is called a Weber bar - a large, solid bar of metal isolated from outside vibrations. This type of instrument was the first type of gravitational-wave detector. Strains in space due to an incident gravitational wave excite the bar's resonant frequency and could thus be amplified to detectable levels. Conceivably, a nearby supernova might be strong enough to be seen without resonant amplification. Modern forms of the Weber bar are still operated, cryogenically cooled, with superconducting quantum interference devices to detect vibration (see for example, ALLEGRO). Weber bars are not sensitive enough to detect anything but extremely powerful gravitational waves.[8]MiniGRAIL is a spherical gravitational-wave antenna using this principle. It is based at Leiden University, consisting of an exactingly machined 1150 kg sphere cryogenically cooled to 20 mK.[9] The spherical configuration allows for equal sensitivity in all directions, and is somewhat experimentally simpler than larger linear devices requiring high vacuum. Events are detected by measuring deformation of the detector sphere. MiniGRAIL is highly sensitive in the 2-4 kHz range, suitable for detecting gravitational waves from rotating neutron star instabilities or small black hole mergers.[10]AURIGA is an ultracryogenic resonant bar gravitational wave detector based at INFN in Italy. It is based on a cylindrical bar detector. The AURIGA and LIGO teams have collaborated in joint observations.[11]
Joni Mitchell wasn't fooling around when she sang, "we are Stardust, we are golden, we are billion year old carbon".
Interesting, but what stroke me the most is that gravitational waves were detected (came faster?) 2 sec. before light! Does that mean that they are moving faster than light or they started to spread before light or something else is the reason!?
Not really, light interacts more strongly with matter. There is a tiny delay because of this, light has to "escape"
What is the music called mates
Wow!
What a music?
Interesting..So they detected the gravity wave came that 11 hours before the actual light was detected ? That should be a big clue how the universe actually behaves and how it's structured. Obviously the speed of light isn't the speed limit throughout the universe . Anyone care to answer how this is possible ? My personal favorite would be M- theory . I bet the string theorist are excited about this discovery .
The gravitational wave was generated as the stars were orbiting each other. The gamma ray burst was generated as or just after they collided, and was seen less than 2 seconds after the end of the gravitational wave.
There is a better statistical chance of UTEP and Georgia Southern playing in the CFB championship game this year than LIGO detected gravity waves. That means, as horrible the thought is, almost every team in CFB would have to suffer so many catastrophes they couldn't play anymore games this year. But the odds are still better that happens than what the LIGO team claimed to have discovered. See Wal Thornhill and Stephen J Crothers for the maths on that!
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What would impress me is if I saw live satellite footage of the super bowl then a zoom out to see people surfing upside down at Bondi beach in Australia! But that isn't ever going to happen as it would be impossible with all those 100's of thousands of satellites orbiting the earth, right? I mean who wouldn't want to watch the trans siberian express chugging along the railroad tracks upside down while someone else is building a skyscraper right side up on the other side of the world? I mean do people really think as I am in Hawaii people in Greeley are upside down at the same time? wow!
You, dear Hawaii sir, are the purest form of evil. Poisoning everything around you with your stupidity and your lies.
Jesus ti Amo muito Obrigado Meu Deus porque Ocultas setas coisas i ravalatias às pequeninos O goria aleluia Maria dás garças Obrigado Meu Deus Amim
Einstein's argument for Ric = 0 is contradictory and therefore invalid. -Stephen J. Crothers
We can now reaffirm why Einstein's alleged field equations Ric = 0 for "outside" a body such as a star are false. In the case of spacetime geometry = 0 the energy-momentum tensor = 0 because material sources = 0 there, yet Einstein still claimed that a massive source such as a star is present in Ric = 0, and according to his followers this star can 'collapse' to form a black hole. However, in the case of de Sitter's empty universe, energy-momentum tensor = 0 because material sources = 0 there too. Thus, material sources are alleged to be both present and absent when energy-momentum tensor = 0. That's impossible! It's a contradiction. Since material sources = 0 in both the equations Ric = 0 and Ric = Λ(metric tensor) the energy-momentum tensor = 0 in both equations, so there are no material sources in either set of equations. Thus, Ric = 0 does not describe a star or a black hole. It contains no matter by mathematical construction for the very same reason de Sitter's empty universe contains no matter by mathematical construction. But it is from Hilbert's solution (the so-called 'Schwarzschild solution') for Ric = 0 that the black hole was first spawned. So the black hole is a fantasy. It is not even predicted by General Relativity because Ric = 0 contains no matter by mathematical construction. Newton's theory certainly does not predict the black hole either because the theoretical Michell-Laplace dark body does not possess the alleged properties of the black hole.
-Stephen J Crothers
REFERENCES
d'Inverno, R., Introducing Einstein’s Relativity, Clarendon Press, Oxford, (1992)
Eddington, A. S., The Mathematical Theory of Relativity, Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, (2007)
Einstein, A., The Foundation of the General Theory of Relativity, Annalen der Physik, 49, (1916), The Principle of Relativity (A collection of original memoirs on the special and general theory of relativity), Dover Publications Inc., New York, (1952)
Einstein, A., The Meaning of Relativity, Science Paperbacks and Methuen & Co., (1967)
Foster, J. and Nightingale, J. D., A short course in General Relativity, Springer-Verlag Inc., New York, (1995)
Tolman, R. C., Relativity Thermodynamics and Cosmology, Dover Publications Inc., New York, (1987)
Weinberg, S., Gravitation and Cosmology: Principles and Applications of the General theory of Relativity, John Wiley & Sons, (1972)
Another major major major flaw in all this which I will gladly point out and wait for more idiotic responses to them, is this. Every single body in our solar system is supposedly bending the fabric of space time, while somehow simultaneously hurtling through that same space time at the totally made up speed of 678,000,000 miles per hour! So which is it, are we sitting in the fabric of space time as singular bodies or are we hurtling through the universe at ungodly speeds? I am going to add to this absurdity, if we are hurtling then that means we are leaving massive gravity waves in our and every other bodies wake in all directions, so how in the hell can you seriously say you see other isolated waves trillions and trillions of miles away? Come up with an answer then I'll ask you how the zodiacs and north star can still be exactly where they were for 1,000's and 1,000's of years when they should have been gazillions of miles out of our site long long ago. Science doesn't know shit about the cosmos, but they know how to keep the grant scams going I'll give them that! Next thing you know they'll be telling us they want 100's of billions to put a man on the moon, haha.
Planets, stars, etc. don't travel through the universe at the speed of 300.000 km/s; light and gravitational waves (and neutrinos) do. And sure, it's a coincidence that there is a reasonably bright star near the celestial north pole, just like it's a coincidence that there *isn't* a bright star near the south celestial pole. A couple tens of thousands years from now it will no longer be true; or, at least, it won't be the same star. Next question?
Mike Roso... Don't bother. This guy is a flat Earther.
No, he needs to be challenged in his views, otherwise he'll get stuck in this mentality forever.
Hawaiiguy Kailua:
Lugubriously, I say unto you, that it is stunning to no end how you're seemingly-incapable of comprehending the unadulterated fallaciousness present within your arguments.
Are you completely unable to identify the zigzagged futility with which you routinely-contrast the cherry-picked values of parroted-yet-misunderstood concepts? Sad story indeed.
Based on your confused, contextually-unfounded parlaying of certain values which really have no place being framed and/or contrasted in the corresponding manners illustrated by yourself, I respectfully must suspect that you may suffer from an especially-severe, profoundly-untreated case of Attention Deficit Disorder.
If you do, in fact, live with such a potentially-devastating illness (such as it is defined within the relevant revision of the DSM), then I offer you my sincerest condolences, and mean no offense. And in addition, I hope against all hope that you're able to seek prompt treatment if feasible, good day.
Sam Burns point me, dear sir, in all your infinite wisdom, to the site which proves gravity exists outside a blackboard, then point me ol wise one, to the site that explains how gravity is created, then Dartanion of ole, point me to site which theorizes a single black hole can exist with matter outside of it. After your complete failure to do so, I'll take your non reply or barbs as proof that yes indeed Rik=0 as it always has:)