As Bodas de Fígaro: Mozart lidando com a censura. Filme Amadeus (1984).

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  • @maximusaugustus6823
    @maximusaugustus6823 Год назад +38

    This masterpiece is almost 40 years old, just wow.

  • @GodsFavoriteBassPlyr
    @GodsFavoriteBassPlyr Год назад +40

    All players were Exceptional. Jeffrey Jones - Says so much, often without saying a word. One of the finest character actors of our age.

    • @JoeDiamond110
      @JoeDiamond110 Год назад

      Damn shame he’s a massive perv in real life.

    • @frankstrawnation
      @frankstrawnation Год назад +3

      It's a pity that he had serious personal problems that damaged his career.

    • @Meme_God_Killer
      @Meme_God_Killer 11 месяцев назад +5

      Well... there it is.

    • @mmcgrath2510
      @mmcgrath2510 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@frankstrawnationi adore him in everything he’s in and then I had to go read his Wikipedia page and…

  • @armancz
    @armancz Год назад +92

    Tom Hulce played that role absolutely brilliantly, that movie is a masterpiece. Gotta rewatch again.

    • @michaelhegyan7464
      @michaelhegyan7464 Год назад +4

      Saw it at the movie theater, when living in Miami, it came out...brilliant

  • @davidbrown5628
    @davidbrown5628 Год назад +79

    Can't believe how old this film is yet it stands strong today

    • @jesustovar2549
      @jesustovar2549 Год назад +2

      For me, it never gets old.

    • @Audiorevue
      @Audiorevue Год назад +4

      Just like the music

    • @Aprilpie13
      @Aprilpie13 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@Wonka89- Very well said, I wholeheartedly agree with you. To me movies during this time felt more mature in regards to storytelling. There was world & character building.

    • @clausesanta5042
      @clausesanta5042 2 месяца назад

      That's what we call "classical".

  • @tanaraci92
    @tanaraci92 Год назад +55

    One thing I realised re-watching this scene: In the actual opera the servant couple are the good guys while the male part of the aristocratic couple is the villain. While describing the 20 minute scene, Mozart cleverly disguises that. He talks about a regular couple having an argument and a “scheming little maid comes in”. In fact maid is scheming with the Countess against the Count himself who wants to rape her. And later he describes Figaro (who is actually the good guy trying to stop the Count) as husband’s valet who is “plotting with the maid”. So he is using the language of the emperor and aristocracy against the poor people to convince them (and Hulce ever so slightly makes this belittling face when he utters those phrases). The actual opera is much more symphetatic to the maid and the valet.
    Found this little detail interesting because it goes against the surface level interpretation that Mozart is depicted as this naive, childish guy who doesn't understand the political situation around him. He actually very well does and manipulates it for his advantage.

    • @historiasdamusica
      @historiasdamusica  Год назад +6

      This film is spectacular in many ways except the biographical aspect, which we all know is very wrong. According to David Cairns, it was Lorenzo da Ponte, the librettist, who actually released Le Nozze from censorship.
      The operatic language of the aristocracy was serious opera, like Idomeneo. And she is exactly the one criticized in the famous passage:
      Oh, bello, bello, bello! Come on now, be honest. Wouldn't you all rather listen to your hairdressers than Hercules? Or Horatius? Or Orpheus? All those old bores! People so lofty they sound as if they shit marble!
      It was the opera buffa librettos created by Carlo Goldoni that put the conflict between aristocratic and bourgeois morals in conflict on stage.
      To understand this scene, it is worth reading the book by Norbert Elias, Mozart Sociology of a genius, in particular the chapter “Craftsman's art, Artist's art”.

    • @squamish4244
      @squamish4244 3 месяца назад

      @@historiasdamusica Nevertheless, Mozart chose this libretto to write music to. He knew it was damning of the aristocracy. This is the late 18th Century. The world is transforming into the one we recognize today. The Marriage of Figaro is a modern opera. Without the heavenly music, the libretto would have gotten nowhere.

  • @AtlasBlizzard
    @AtlasBlizzard Год назад +25

    I'm sure many artists can relate to Mozart here, having to fight for your vision with people who have no concept of what you're trying to create.

  • @jrock2720
    @jrock2720 3 месяца назад +8

    I just love that for a period of history, the top political leaders took their artistic output as seriously as any other part of their governing. It's my understanding that it was Mozart's librettist, Lorenzo Da Ponte, who convinced the emperor to allow the production of the operatic version of Figaro. Here in modern times, government officials will get riled up now and then about a piece of music or art; usually because they find something offensive. But back in the late 1700's, artistic output was how a country was defined. It was a statement to cultural sophistication and a commentary on the populace.

    • @historiasdamusica
      @historiasdamusica  3 месяца назад +1

      That's true: it was da Ponde who convinced the emperor to lift the censurchip. But not every aristocrat took art as serious as politics. And art was used not for arts's sake, it was a projection of power and wealth. You should read Nobert Elias book,The Court Society. And it's not true that art was how a country was defined. The wish of God was the justification for absolutists monarchies. And aristocrats could spent their times with art because all the privileges they have. They own the land, because God said so, and they could colect taxes on it. Hail, hail, french revolution!!

  • @RavenDanzig
    @RavenDanzig 2 года назад +176

    Best line ever: "I am a vulgar man; My music is not."

  • @l.e.gonzalez-cortes7820
    @l.e.gonzalez-cortes7820 Год назад +53

    I have seen this movie more than any other and can never get enough of it!

    • @DesertRose76
      @DesertRose76 Год назад +3

      ME TOO!!!!!

    • @vigokovacic3488
      @vigokovacic3488 8 месяцев назад

      Same!! I've seen the 3h version at least 8 times.. Has to be more!

  • @Meme_God_Killer
    @Meme_God_Killer 11 месяцев назад +7

    Talk about range--Tom Hulce went from playing an innocent freshman in "Animal House" to Mozart and was never heard from since.

    • @ShatteredDreams90
      @ShatteredDreams90 3 месяца назад

      He played Quasimodo in Disney's The Hunchback of Notre Dame

  • @JoshBreakdowns
    @JoshBreakdowns 3 месяца назад +15

    "Why must we go on forever, writing only about gods and legends??"
    "Because they do! They go on forever! At least what they represent."
    The writing is just phenomenal

  • @ArthurCSchaperMR
    @ArthurCSchaperMR 6 месяцев назад +4

    This is one of my favorite scenes in the movie, and if not in all movies.
    Every character plays his part perfectly. Nothing is wasted or empty.
    Not one character is a hollow stereotype. And what of my favorite lines is uttered by one of the minor characters, Baron von Swieten:
    Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart : I am fed to the teeth with elevated themes! Old dead legends! Why must we go on forever writing about gods and legends?
    Baron Van Swieten : Because they do. They go on forever. Or at least what they represent. The eternal in us. Opera is here to ennoble us. You and me, just the same as His Majesty.

  • @jpmackin
    @jpmackin 2 года назад +34

    One of the greatest movies, with the best actor to portray- all for Love of the most grandiose of all composers.

  • @symerasantos5774
    @symerasantos5774 2 года назад +46

    Perdoe-me ,majestade! Eu sou um homem vulgar,mas asseguro-lhe que a minha música não é! ( Mozart)

  • @rubensf.dossantos9078
    @rubensf.dossantos9078 Год назад +23

    Adorei esse filme. E as risadas de Mozart e sua humanidade.... 🥰👏🏻👏🏻🎼🎹

    • @carolme77
      @carolme77 7 месяцев назад

      sim kkkk queria muito saber se na vida real o mozart também ria assim hahaha seria uma cereja no bolo de um ser humano já extraordinário.

    • @teresagardiner153
      @teresagardiner153 3 месяца назад

      @@carolme77 There's no evidence that Mozart laughed like that. The movie's depiction of him is mostly fictional, although he did have a notable fondness for fart-jokes and other bathroom humor, irl.

  • @profxtreme9275
    @profxtreme9275 2 месяца назад +3

    I like that they don't portray the emperor as a fool. You don't have to agree with him, but he comes across throughout the film as a reasonable man. Portraying him as a complete fool would have been only too easy. He's still portrayed as being "wrong" in some ways, but he is portrayed as a real person with both virtues and failings. Every character was written so well.

  • @jesustovar2549
    @jesustovar2549 Год назад +18

    What a brilliant scene and very well acted, worthy of analysis (as the whole movie), Mozart (in the movie) just wanted to tell a story with ordinary people that the public could relate to and laugh, I have nothing against legends or myths (which would be the movies of science fiction and fantasy of our times), the theme was subversive, but the author is just taking the theme, it was not so much a protest, comedy is taking a matter of life with laughter.
    I really like Mozart's comparing the difference between noise and music, but that noise can be harmonious, it can be transformed into music, in fact that's the basis of Music as a whole.
    Many artists have had to fight against censorship to show their vision to those who only want to maintain their interests and their elitist status, still happens today.

    • @frankstrawnation
      @frankstrawnation Год назад +1

      If you're paying the artist, it wouldn't be censorship if you don't like what the artist is making and demand changes.

  • @pronateceepadm7852
    @pronateceepadm7852 11 дней назад

    This is one the best of cinema´s history. If you don´t saw it, go fast watch it

  • @grandrapids57
    @grandrapids57 Год назад +12

    Not to criticize the film but Mozart was by far not so silly in such company, but it makes a good character. He grew up playing for high society and royalty.

    • @Leokipo
      @Leokipo Год назад +2

      Yes, I was a bit skeptical. Thanks for your insight.

    • @Meme_God_Killer
      @Meme_God_Killer 11 месяцев назад +5

      Well this was a hollywood movie by and for Americans, millions of whom think Trump is a genius.

    • @grandrapids57
      @grandrapids57 11 месяцев назад

      @@Meme_God_Killer By every ordinary metric, he is a genius. Would you like to compare his accomplishments? If you do not know of any, then you may wish to: 1- question the media you use, 2- use a search engine to discover his accomplishment . 3- find out why others view him as a genius and challenge your own opinion in the vacuum of knowledge of those accomplishments. Or you could blissfully continue onwards because its no fun to discover a cherished belief is wrong.

    • @grandrapids57
      @grandrapids57 10 месяцев назад

      Dear Mr. Organizer, huh, I do not debate with the closed minded; however, this little exchange is a lesson is psychology.

  • @catzenhouse
    @catzenhouse 10 месяцев назад +2

    I found Jan Swafford's book "Mozart - The Reign of Love" to be very informative and enlightening. Very readable.

  • @nataliya2641
    @nataliya2641 Год назад +1

    Thank you.
    Hello from Moscow.
    Subscribed.

  • @jerrygelgot8484
    @jerrygelgot8484 Год назад +6

    Wonderful!!😍❤️

  • @nameless8168
    @nameless8168 Год назад +14

    Engraçado que o vídeo é destinado aos brasileiros, mas só tem pessoas de outros países comentando hahaha, a cultura daqui as vezes me deixa triste.

    • @gilvicente2010
      @gilvicente2010 Год назад +1

      "Se há alguma cultura nesse pais é necessário que você a tenha trazido..." (CIC)

    • @frankstrawnation
      @frankstrawnation Год назад

      Uai, o áudio é original em Inglês. Se o trecho tivesse o áudio dublado, só teria brasileiro comentando.

    • @nameless8168
      @nameless8168 Год назад

      @@frankstrawnation está legendado, é o título do vídeo está em português, só isso já séria o bastante pra pessoas do Brasil entenderem o vídeo.
      É dublado seria difícil pois o filme em si não existe dublagem, outro fator que mostra o quão esse país não se importa tanto com tal conteúdo.

    • @frankstrawnation
      @frankstrawnation Год назад

      @@nameless8168 Esse filme foi dublado sim e já passou na TV aberta várias vezes.

  • @user-bn5vz6bc1t
    @user-bn5vz6bc1t Месяц назад

    비로소 알아낸 영화네요... 모차르트 팬입니다. 너무나 감사합니다.

  • @1cesarwestin
    @1cesarwestin Год назад +4

    Ah! Se Sua Majestade visse ou ouvisse o que é vulgar hoje ...?!

  • @rooneyjosuehernandezvillan4213
    @rooneyjosuehernandezvillan4213 2 месяца назад +1

    As far as I'm concerned, this is inaccurate. Acording to some sources (Britannica Enciclopedia, Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians), the opera's librettist, Lorenzo Da Ponte (who was the official court's poet too), asked the emperor Joseph permission to transform this play into an opera, without the political connotation the original work has. Although the theatrical play was actually banned, the emperor allowed Da Ponte to do the opera, without even hearing the music. Still, I love this movie very much

  • @kyeque1967
    @kyeque1967 Год назад +7

    My favorite movie!

  • @alharthy50
    @alharthy50 Год назад +2

    I actually think that Salieri saved mozart from future execution in this scene

  • @natalya9821
    @natalya9821 Год назад

    Hello Fernando.
    Thank you.

  • @ShatteredDreams90
    @ShatteredDreams90 5 месяцев назад +3

    People so lofty they sound as if they shit marble 😂😂😂

    • @JoshBreakdowns
      @JoshBreakdowns 3 месяца назад +2

      "Govern your tongue Mozart, how dare you!"

  • @viernes-5
    @viernes-5 Год назад +9

    I went to school with Mozart and already played the 🎹 piano very good 👍🙌🕊️
    🤤

  • @joaomarcio77
    @joaomarcio77 8 месяцев назад

    Uma cena inspiradora, com certeza.

  • @ifyouloveChristyouwillobeyhim
    @ifyouloveChristyouwillobeyhim Год назад +37

    Phenomenal acting on the part of the king in this scene. You can just see the layers of carefully covered thoughts. Does someone remember the actor's name? In my family we just call him Rooney. . . 😆

  • @goyogoldin9375
    @goyogoldin9375 2 года назад +5

    bravo !!!!

  • @MrRitchieD
    @MrRitchieD 8 месяцев назад +1

    I did like the way the man described how opera ennoble the legends

  • @Meir-m6o
    @Meir-m6o 22 дня назад

    " let me show you the beginning"

  • @nuranarrowood5808
    @nuranarrowood5808 Год назад

    YEARS AGO I HAVE SEEN FIGARO OPERA AWESOME ANS WAS VERY SAD

  • @unoriginal422
    @unoriginal422 4 месяца назад +1

    3:22 it actually goes all the way to a septet in the actual opera

  • @didiwongo
    @didiwongo Год назад

    My favorite movie

  • @mayrondharma7710
    @mayrondharma7710 Год назад

    fantastic

  • @nuranarrowood5808
    @nuranarrowood5808 Год назад +3

    I LOVE THIS OPERA

  • @sayuri933
    @sayuri933 Год назад +2

    Cagam marmore kkkkkkkk
    haja forevis

  • @MrDarthvaderlikespie
    @MrDarthvaderlikespie Месяц назад +2

    2:14 Marie Antoinette? French Revolution incoming

  • @user-oj7nj1uf7m
    @user-oj7nj1uf7m 8 месяцев назад

    😂😂😂 I love that movie so funny

  • @carlosburness3487
    @carlosburness3487 Год назад +1

    2:26 best quote

  • @josephclarkclassicalandfaith
    @josephclarkclassicalandfaith Год назад +1

    I follow this man.

  • @peterpiper47
    @peterpiper47 2 года назад +7

    1:24 His left eye is a good 1/4 inch below his right.

    • @JMarieCAlove
      @JMarieCAlove 2 года назад +2

      I noticed that too! First I thought it was his angle and the lighting but you’re right! 😁

    • @peterehsman8831
      @peterehsman8831 Год назад

      He was probably ADHD and a few other conditions

    • @missingno88
      @missingno88 Год назад +1

      You’ll find most peoples faces are asymmetrical like that lol just depends on the angle and lighting etc

  • @haraldisdead
    @haraldisdead 9 месяцев назад

    More films set in Europe should use the American accents, among others.
    It's what made this film so successful.
    The King has an American accent in this film, but why shouldn't it be Canadian, Australian, or Kiwi?

  • @MapleSyrupPoet
    @MapleSyrupPoet 8 месяцев назад

    ❤❤❤😅😊

  • @aldito7586
    @aldito7586 Год назад +5

    "Mozart, do you realize that I have declared all of this shit bullshit?"

    • @peterehsman8831
      @peterehsman8831 Год назад +2

      Mozart was a child protagy could you read at an about level when you were in nappys

  • @illayreich8373
    @illayreich8373 Год назад +1

    All these genius composers were speaking English. Maybe that's why they call themselves a Great Britain. 😂

  • @mannlichesgehirn7689
    @mannlichesgehirn7689 6 месяцев назад

    Figaro makes to much jokes about the upper class

  • @arkady714
    @arkady714 9 месяцев назад

    Jealous gaggle of useless stiffs. Mozart is the only character in this scene with a soul. Freaking brilliant.

  • @mannlichesgehirn7689
    @mannlichesgehirn7689 6 месяцев назад

    6...7 ...minutes 😕....eighttt minutes ? 😒
    TWENTY SIRE !!! TWENTY MINUTES !!!
    😅😅😅

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 2 года назад +1

    I don't know the story. Did he pass the audition?

    • @Luca33600
      @Luca33600 2 года назад +1

      Really ?

    • @deirdremorris9234
      @deirdremorris9234 Год назад

      Watch the movie. Its fantastic.

    • @maureendavidson4635
      @maureendavidson4635 Год назад

      @.Lawrence. He persuaded the Emperor to let the Opera go ahead. It is still performed nowadays at Opera Houses all over the world. The Marriage of Figaro.

  • @hmongghoststoriesinthedark
    @hmongghoststoriesinthedark 2 года назад +2

    The weird editing on 0:06-0:07 got me.

    • @historiasdamusica
      @historiasdamusica  2 года назад +1

      Weird indeed.

    • @thomast9736
      @thomast9736 2 года назад

      do you mean the quick transition? I dont recall the scene in the actual movie.

  • @Fotinialive
    @Fotinialive Год назад +2

    Mozart dovrebbe parlare in tedesco

  • @Fotinialive
    @Fotinialive Год назад +1

    E per la cronaca dovrebbe parlare con accento locale di lingua tedesca

  • @carlosburness3487
    @carlosburness3487 Год назад +2

    If you wanted to grow beards back then you’d fit in well with piracy 🏴‍☠️

  • @Bobafrench
    @Bobafrench 7 месяцев назад

    BVS is a Chad

    • @JoshBreakdowns
      @JoshBreakdowns 3 месяца назад

      Ok but in real life he gave Mozart a copy of The Well Tempered Clavier so...

  • @Wolfganger
    @Wolfganger 2 года назад

    Hello

  • @Fotinialive
    @Fotinialive Год назад +1

    In questo film 🎥 non è che mi sembra tutto giusto

  • @ehenri1438
    @ehenri1438 11 месяцев назад

    do it I want to hear it

  • @allys744
    @allys744 Год назад +1

    “I’m a vulgar man! But I can assure you, my music is not”
    *lol that’s not completely true. Mozart was known for his restroom humor to the point where he once wrote a humorous rhyme about it. There’s a whole Wikipedia page of “Mozart and scatology” 🤣✋

  • @jairop6725
    @jairop6725 Год назад

    O Iluminismo. The end of the times.

  • @krikribroch8442
    @krikribroch8442 Год назад

    Francais

  • @lefttodiscover6063
    @lefttodiscover6063 2 года назад +3

    Italian? 🧐

    • @historiasdamusica
      @historiasdamusica  2 года назад +5

      In Viena, at the time, there was many differents styles of opera. French, German and Italian.

    • @jonnyfrench19
      @jonnyfrench19 2 года назад +2

      If you mean the subtitling, it's Portuguese.

    • @maureendavidson4635
      @maureendavidson4635 Год назад

      Well he wrote that Opera in Italian. One of the biographies I read said he was studying English and reading Shakepeare before he died. Don't know if that's true

  • @sanwan7138
    @sanwan7138 Год назад +3

    A nut played by a fruit

  • @jean6872
    @jean6872 Год назад

    Why does Mozart laugh like that?

    • @BigDaddy-pe5xi
      @BigDaddy-pe5xi Год назад

      Because hes a clown.... fool

    • @jean6872
      @jean6872 Год назад

      @@BigDaddy-pe5xi Mozart was a child prodigy and a brilliant composer.

    • @BigDaddy-pe5xi
      @BigDaddy-pe5xi Год назад

      @@jean6872 mozart was also a clown.... a court jester.. a slave to the music industry, after working 20 years for merely nothing, even though his artwork was great. Hey, but life is a total joke in society.... yeah fool
      Kayne West is starting to realize this... the same fate that Mozart had 300 years before

    • @rachell452
      @rachell452 Год назад +1

      Apparently the real Mozart had an irritating high-pitched nervous laugh. People who knew him described it like scratching glass. He was a childish and immature man who laughed at everything.

    • @jean6872
      @jean6872 Год назад

      @Rachel L *_I wonder how true it is to say that Mozart was a childish immature man and whether this belief is based on reality or the gossip of his enemies._*

  • @tommersch4296
    @tommersch4296 Год назад

    Cinque...dieci....venti...trenta....trenta sei...quaranta tre

  • @unechaine1
    @unechaine1 Год назад

    Je n'ai jamais aimé sa musique mais le personnage est intéressant.

    • @frankstrawnation
      @frankstrawnation Год назад

      A música é mais interessante do que o personagem, pelo menos se considerarmos a vida real de Mozart.

    • @amiguinhos790
      @amiguinhos790 7 месяцев назад

      Vai embora então, Zé Mane