The Most Shady NBA Deals Ever Done
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
- Once in a while, you'd see a shady/sketchy NBA deal being made. Whether it's a strange contract or questionable trade, it makes you wonder...is there something else going on? Hope you enjoy the video!
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You forgot the Serge Ibaka for Oladipo and Sabonis trade that sent the Magic org back for years. It looks like the Thunder fleeced the Magic, but if you take a deep dive into it, the Magic GM at the time was Rob Hennigan a former OKC asst. GM. later that season at the trade deadline the Magic dealt Ibaka to the Raptors for pennies on the dollar, leading to Hennigan getting fired after that season. Then later on Hennigan was rehired as an OKC asst. GM.
lol i remember this. ppl insist it was just coincidence and died down eventually. but yea it leaves you to wonder
what do u mean, terrence ross and a pick for a horse and serge ibaka
100% been saying this for years
@@nicmagtaan1132 not just any horse, the horse that does horse things
That was for sure shady af man! Hopefully y’all can help a small RUclipsr out who works really hard and trying to be on the come up!
You could also have thrown Deandre Jordan's deal with the Clippers in there. Jordan had verbally agreed to join the Mavs, then at the last minute signed with the Clippers who promised to help him make money off the court with their business connections. The NBA even fined the Clippers for it.
Not only that, the clippers literally went to Deandre house to convince him to stay,
It kind of worked out in Dallas' favor a few years later since Jordan is now a journeyman.
@@LazerIsHere i think they locked him in his own house
I thought Chris Paul convinced him to come back for one more run and he would get cold feet and changed his mind lol
@@LazerIsHere def. A wild time in NBA history
I still believe kirilenko was offered op items in world of warcraft worth the rest of his salary
HA right because he was a huge fan of the game.
Tim Duncan mentioned that he would miss practice and stay up late playing W.O.W
The Minnesota Timberwolves really screwed KG’s early time there and if it wasn’t for the fact of that Joe Smith signing they did , they wouldn’t had to forfeit all those draft picks they had , KG could’ve had legitimate help instead of in the twilight years in Minnesota
its hella weird to think they were willing to spend that much money on him. He was a solid guy for a long time, sure but come on now
That what they do wasting their all star prime From KG to Kevin love and now KAT
Nahh it's all his agent's fault lol
It never is about cheating or not, it's about not getting caught
Minnesota doing Minnesota things
Ehh even in the twilight years in Minnesota, the team wasn't even good lmao.
Spurs already damaged by the Kawhi and Green trade then the Morris case happened which damaged the Spurs long term plans, especially when they lost a key player.
ruclips.net/video/fSj3XptqNtM/видео.html
Yeah it was a testament to Pops coaching that we were competing for the play in. Hopefully we can land a good lottery pick.
@Kwame brown and Jim cornette burner account to be fair we saw that kawhi would never willingly choose to partner up with lebron but maybe with that trade the power would have been with lebron.
It's karma for everything they have done.
@@Arms1234 "Karma" for being really good despite the disadvantage of working in a small market?
The last NBA Shady Deals feels like a murder case all leading to one guy in the end
and the agent's picture looks like that of a typical serial killer. lol
Don’t forget the Deandre Jordon situation, his teammates literally locked him in a room until he resigned with the Clippers, backing out of a deal with Dallas.
@Kwame brown and Jim cornette burner account Smiliar to the Marcus Morris deal. Had a verbal agreement with the Mavs
Wtf really I don’t remember that
Crazier cuz they all left jordan in following years
@@mat52298 ya cp and griffin showed up at his house
@@notatrollll and he still end up going to the Mavs
That Bertrans deal still irks me because a stretch big is probably the biggest need for the Spurs right now.
That Jason "Reign" stuff, that was fresh for me. Dang. Felt like a casual
Same, I knew about all of those players and switching their minds last minute, but I didn’t know that they all had the same agent
@@skins1024 same
Yeah only casuals don’t know every single detail of every aspect of NBA history
@@skins1024 I never knew that either
Good for kirilenko, he probably has some oil stocks in russia
If you're famous in Russia toure set for life...
He just plays W.O.W
@@dwraptorgeezus097 I saw that with some fighters, one or two fights in ufc and they become legends
@@jcgo6703 You're right for sure. Look at Fedor and Khabib. They are going to end up being Billionaires themselves.
@@dwraptorgeezus097 why’s that?
Pau Gasol to the Lakers, courtesy of Jerry West being the GM in Memphis at that time, was pretty fishy.
I heard that 10 years after the incident, some executives were still very angry about that trade. Definitely a shady trade
they got marc gasol out of it, stop crying monch
Turned out to be a pretty fair trade. Gasol for Gasol
Wasn’t Kawhis uncle one of the shadiest ppl 😂 he wanted some crazy shit to join the lakers which was illegal i couldn’t remember all the details but i remember there’s some debates about kawhis uncle
He wanted part ownership of the lakers 😂 which I don’t think a current player can have while playing
That's a way of saying "My son doesn't want to join the Lakers" without actually saying it.
Clippers sent front office to the majority of Raptor games to discuss the future with his uncle... I heard the board at mlse would never agree to all the crazy shit kawhi's camp wanted.... I have yet to hear about the demands he WAS GIVEN by the Clips owner bc fack learning more about the Clippers
Had the CP3 to Lakers trade happened, the Banana Boat lineup would have been a reality.
lmao true. i wonder how it would work tho had the trade gone thru. it wouldve relied on bynum living up to his potential and how well cp3 adjusts to the triangle since theyll be giving up odom and gasol.
@@sharilajeeeeee didn’t his high school team play triangle?
@@sharilajeeeeee He already knew the Triangle system well which he played in for years as a Highschool Varsity so he was very familiar with the system.. I do agree if Andrew Bynum stayed healthy and played with his full potential adding Paul Gasol and Lamar Odom later would have been a great dynasty in the making..
ohh my bad. didn't know he ran the triangle at hs. thanks. that would've been even better.
@@kenrickeason Gasol and Odom would've been traded to the rockets
Andy, do a video on Mark Eaton. He died a few days ago and I think he deserves the praise, significance and attention from someone like you
MARK EATON!😂🤣
@@NC-lc4gw you realise he didn't even die a week ago?
@@NC-lc4gw Wheres the damn respect?
@@burnixone 😂🤣
Definitely one of Andy’s best videos so far this year
Chris Paul to the Lakers will always be one of the biggest What ifs in NBA History.
Kobe Bryant would have least 7 rings Chris Paul would have 2 rings already.. Imagine him playing along side Paul Gasol..
@@kenrickeason Pau Gasol is involved in that 3team trade. So it was CP3 and Kobe duo only
The NBA doesn't want kobe to have more rings than MJ and also the NBA WANTS LeBron to win championship in that time (remember that was 2012 lockout season which is LeBron 1st championship ring).
@@saylessxxv1990 Let's not even pretend that the league was in anyway anti-Kobe after the Kings were robbed of their victory over the Lakers in the early 2000s.
@@saylessxxv1990 the trade was vetoed be the nba partially owned new orleans at the time goof it had nothing to do with protecting any players legacy
How could you not mention Chris Paul and Blake Griffin literally kidnapping DeAndre Jordan and apply the heaviest pressure possible to get him to back out of a nearly finished contract with the Mavericks?
What's so funny about the Timberwolves situation is they always acted like they had a really great general manager in Kevin McHale but he was always a horrible talent evaluator and obviously a cheat. Being a good player does not translate to being a good team manager. The Boston Celtics mid-80s teams seem to be a storehouse of future management big shots. Larry Bird went on to quite a bit of success with Indiana and obviously Danny ainge has had a lot of impact in Boston. Kevin McHale is the weakest of the lot. They had some success in Minnesota but a team with Kevin Garnett is going to have some success. They were horrible putting enough talent around him and so those years were pretty much wasted.
I'm pretty sure KG liked McHale a lot which did not help. That's the wolves problem, if there's some issue with the coach/fo and the star likes them Glenn Taylor will just keep them around. Same thing just happened with Ryan Saunders.
Denying draft picks is drastic and evil response from NBA !!
Even as a coach he was questionable at times. He would sometimes just pull players out even if they're on fire in the games and completely throw off their game. It was weird.
Kevin Garnett didn't waste his years. Minnesota did. KG took what he learned there and brought it to Boston and won a championship!
@@meirdaniel7515 yeah that seemed a bit too harsh, I highly doubt they would’ve done that to the Lakers
I've always understood David Stern's move on the veto. Didn't have crap to do with the Lakers being a super team. The nba wanted somebody to buy the hornets and CP3 was a budding superstar. The original offer was cp3 for Kevin martin 28, lamar Odom 32, Goran Dragic 25 and Luis Scola 31. Martin was a walking bucket but was in his late 20's and not going to be the star of a team anybody wanted to spend 600m on. The others were old or unproven.
Eric Gordon was coming off his best season and only 23. Chris Kaman had been an Allstar recently and still under 30. Aminu was coming off a rookie season so he didn't matter. No, still not as attractive as Chris Paul, but more promising than what Houston and Lakers could offer.
Yeah they also got a 1st round unprotected Minnesota pick from the Clips too. The biggest thing is that it allowed the Hornets to fully rebuild and have hope
Lakers trade would have been devastating because it would have put the team in purgatory with no real way to get out for a long time
I too understood where Stern was coming from, but it was still a shitty move because ultimately, Chris Paul wanted out regardless, which is why the trade almost went down in the first place. And ironically, ended up getting his wish not too much later to LA anyway, albeit with the Clippers instead of the Lakers.
Jennie Buss came clean n said when the trade was announced she was in a meeting with all the other owners n it seemed fishy that a year was going on so quick n really like a premeditated deal so it got the veto so other teams could get a chance at an offer
@@ignitebridgeiii5425 there's nothing fishy about it, I'm not going to agree to a trade that does nothing for me but benefits you and an upset employee.
Yeah that all makes sense, but than they traded him anyways? To the Clippers??
Yaw remember when Elton brand tried bring in Baron Davis to the clippers in 08 but Elton brand left and went to the 76ers? Does anyone remember that?
And all he did in Philly was be hurt anyway.. It wasnt even worth it to get him
@@GeneralBuckNaked clippers could have used Elton with that team they had
Yes I was in high school when that went down
oh my favorite nba youtuber back at it
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That Joe Smith contract doesn't make any sense at all. It makes a lot of sense for the Timberwolves who get an 80 million player or let's call him a $20 million per year player for less than 2 million per year. Even if he doesn't get hurt and he makes it to the bird contract he would only get 86 million dollars at that point. That's just a stupid deal because there's no way that you can force the Timberwolves to sign him at that point for the bird deal. They could cut him at the end of 3 years and have spent 6 million dollars or less for a guy that was supposed to have been paid 60 million for the same amount of time. His agents were incredibly untalented. Turns out that Joe Smith was not that talented either. He sort of reminded me of Marcus camby. Another big time college player who was just better than average. Somebody who at their very best might pick up an All-Star or two but that would be it. I can't remember what ended up happening with his money after they canceled the Timberwolves deals?
Camby was better than smith
So making all defense teams, becoming dpoy, leading in blocks for few years is just above average? Fuck offff... How dare u compare Marcus Camby to Joe Smith.
As a Spurs fan I was really pissed when Morris didn't sign with the Spurs we don't have many moves back then and we really need a good big men. Then this happen he didn't sign to the Spurs and we lose Bertans who blossomed on Washington. That agent shady AF
Morris is a dishonorable scum bag like Kawhi Leonard, but with less talent.
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Wow so Minnesota potentially lost out on winning a championship because of a very illegal and irresponsible move on their part. Now I understand why sometimes some franchises are so mediocre: poor management
It’s probably a blessing in disguise, I feel that they are either going to move the team to Seattle or to Vegas
@@yell0wberryif they move to Las Vegas, what would they now be called? The Las Vegas Gamblers?
poor management and luck on that matter. I bet each of all teams in the NBA has a dead body in the closet. The Wolves are just unlucky they get exposed. lol
Cavs had 3 number 1 picks in 4 years and ended up with Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett. If not for Lebron they would of been in the lottery market matters but bad management supersedes all that
NBA screwed the Twolves back in 2004, they had a real chance of winning the tittle and what did the NBA do? They did a Sacramento Laker rubbery with ironically the same team they loved… the Lakers
Clicked faster then Paul George requesting a trade after Kawhi leaves
Wtf😂
To the Knicks for 38 first round picks
Lmao you really thought mavs winning the series??? Lmao 😂😂😂
@@ND-OPS mavs are up 2-1 😐
@@KawhiLowry is it best of 3? I thought it was best of 7 tho
Andy you’re my favorite NBA RUclipsr these days homie
It must’ve been hot outside if they were done in the shade
boomer
@@metroboomin7218 coomer
With the Lakers and CP3 trade I think you forgot to mention how they ended up “luckily” landing the #1 pick that landed them AD & I feel made it more attractive to potential buyers which eventually worked considering they sold him to the saints owner
The Lakers had enough shady moves. That Chris Paul deal was as fair as the Kwame Brown trade, super lopsided. And nobody bats an eye 👁 at that. So people complaining about it need to shut up and cut ✂️ the crap 🙄
Whats even stranger is AD ended up on the Lakers anyways, and he plays when he feels like it and thats not often enough. LA got their pseudo bubbledome covid trophy which in my eyes really doesnt mean much
@@younglove3362 Right. I guess they would've felt Dwyane Wade for Smush Parker.
I hope that you can make a "How good actually was" video for NBA coaches Andy. I always enjoy your videos 💯
Andy never misses a chance to show his boy AK-47. GOOD VIDEO!
One of the hidden gems of the 2000’s.
I think McHale was referring to teams like Portland at the time that had so many all star caliber players yet still were under the salary cap.
Spurs could of really used Bertans
Great video man
Good video man, keep it up!
Minnesota would of picked washouts anyways
as a spurs fan, letting davis dertans still hurts
I remember that Joe Smith-Minnesota TWolves scandal back in the 90s-2000s. Poor TWolves.
Portland and Minnesota always have the worst luck..
Keep up the good work
Part 2? I love this video
ruclips.net/video/fSj3XptqNtM/видео.html
The Deandre Jordan and Mavericks thing could have been added possibly
9:20 when you mentioned Carlos boozer, I know this is a year later so you didn't have this information but new information has come out with him being on the Dan lebatard show that he could not sign with Cleveland because the way they set it up he would have gotten in trouble. So he had to leave but the front office used that negativity that the fans perceived as him leaving to not take the blame themselves.
Facts. As a spurs fan, what Morris did is unforgivable
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That Joe Smith one doesn't make sense, why is that not allowed? If both parties are okay with it, seems like a reasonable strategy lol and any team is capable of doing it....
Exactly
Ikr.. i mean for whatever reason, joe.smith was ok with it.
It was a multi-year agreement that wasn't reflected in the actual contract. Like idiots, they actually wrote the thing down. Under the rules, they couldn't offer Smith that multi-year deal. The agreement was to prevent one of them from backing out of it in the middle of the agreement. Not sure how that'd be enforced, but that's why they're idiots. By circumventing Joe Smith's free agency after each season, they were breaking the rules. They could have offered Smith 3 consecutive minimum deals, but I suspect they felt he might not see that through to the end if there wasn't an explicit agreement.
Great video
Anyone see the Harrell contract with Lakers shady too?
wym
A lot of Lakers contracts rn are kinda shady
who wanted Harrell?
@@umarb7325 Hornets offered him a much bigger contract.. it's on Bleacher Report
@@umarb7325 idk
that kirilenko hair tho 😂😅😆🤣😄
Man Minnesota forever screwed up Garnett’s early career!! Could’ve honestly had more rings for the team he gave everything for! Until they screwed him!
Oh yeah they did , the Timberwolves really did screw KG’s early career in those days .. those draft picks that they had to forfeit cause of Joe Smith
@@thesprock5270 we're aware of that...
Of course the infamous Chris Paul Lakers trade , and David Stern Vetoed it , Lakers fans will always remember how they got screwed over that deal , Kobe could’ve gotten that 6th ring if he had prime CP3
I'd like to see more videos like this.
Derek Anderson did the Spurs wrong like that too.. Signed with Spurs over Portland then after 1 year asked to get out of his contract to restructure for the team but just left to play with the blazers.
1:58 that face n that contract goes together
KG's career😭😭😭 (my all-time favorite player)
hey Andy I really appreciate your show . I love your channel .. I just had a suggestion .. can u do some WCW WWF videos ..or different sports PLEASE !!!!!!!!!
His channel is called Andy “Hoops” though and everyone subscribes to him for this type of content, so you might want to find someone else
@@matthew9767 why don't u get off Andy's "nuts"
So many great topics, so little effort.
You forgot about Jerry stackhouse/Jason Kidd in 2008 with the Mavs.
Hedo Turkoglu before. commits to Portland but signs with the Raptors
Pretty sure Hedos wife vetoed Portland. No under the table deals. That said Portland dodged a bullet.
I sure wish somebody could break down the somewhat strange trade Rod Thorn pulled off that got the New Jersey Nets a bunch of players including Shawn Bradley
Wasn't there one of DeAndre Jordan where he wanted to sign with the Mavericks. But the Clippers like...locked him in a room or something until he resigned with the Clippers
That agent really has a unchable face lol
I'm sure there has been a lot more players that have been done over by clubs than the other way around. When profit is the end game, corruption is never tor far away.
This is what I imagine sports journalism/reporting to actually be. This is the interesting stuff, not the trite E news style shit you see regularly.
Can't wait to see your examination of everything red aurebach did.
As shady the Celtics and nets team was looking back in retrospect it worked out for Brooklyn lol
These lawyers/agents are working with the powers that be.
They are tricking these players into being poor after their careers, with purposely bad advice/investments and literally robbing them in most cases. They don't have your best interest at heart! They are apart of a greater plot. 👁
I honestly think the CP3 trade was vetoed cuz Stern didn’t want the Lakers to become threats to the rise of Lebron in Miami.
Because you're gay..Kobe won his rings after that so thats dumb to say and he also never played with a ball dominant og
Please make a video about on your opinion in boston & kyrie drama, from the logo to the water bottle thrower..
9:16 Sounds like something a morris twin would do.
Joe Smith also defaulted on an Aston Martin in Atlanta
That background music is so soothing
I am for anything that wipes that smug smirk from pops face
Hey Andy you should make a video about the nba television contracts throughout the years and how it changed the league
In the Philippines, SAN MIGUEL & GINEBRA has the most SHADIEST DEALS in terms of trades. As a Ginebra fan these deals are so disgusting.
All those trades w Rain/Reign/Rane however tf it's spelled were really confusing to me. Especially because all 3 dudes left their initial teams for much worse teams. I didn't realize they all had the same agent... something sketchy there for sure.
Surprised there was no mention of Charles Barkley with the Houston Rockets since he's been slightly more open about it over the years and it being why he hates the rockets.
The Barley trade between PHX, DAL and HOU was shady AF. HOU would have been better with a young Sam Cassell and Robert Horry than a just past his prime Barkley.
Let’s not forget the Patrick Ewing draft debacle and then cp3 as mentioned… also the hornets magically were owned by the league again and guess what 2012 Anthony Davis.
Kirilenko looks so much like Brent Barry, it's uncanny
A backstabbing lawyer, what?🤣🤣
Joe smith was traded to the sixers the season before he signed with the t wolves. He never got an 80 million dollar deal from the warriors
Pretty much every trade involving Keith Van Horn's Contract should make this list.
i hope andy hoops talk about why charlotte hornets traded kobe during the draft to the lakers was there something that happen that caused that? that would make an interesting vid
remember when the tyson chandler to the thunder & shareef abdur-rahim to the nets trades fell through?
Joe Smith fired the agents who were involved in the transaction which was end heavy. Imagine you get paid little for what would be something huge. Stupidity all around and how Joe Smith ended up broke adds to this.
Joe smith passes up 80 mil for 86 mil 3 years later?? Wtf.. he definitely is no ordinary thinking Joe
You gotta do more research on the Chris Paul trade Andy. Jeanie buss said on the All the Smoke Podcast that the trade didn't go through because team governors were in New York at the time negotiating a new CBA, and during that time noone was supposed to be making trades. Dell Demps of New Orleans was on the phones trading Chris Paul anyway which was not allowed. If Dell Demps would've just shut up for 1 more day Chris Paul would've been in a Lakers Jersey.
Oh no Jason! They've caught on to you!
Is this a re-upload? Am I having a stroke? I feel like I learned about the AK47 story from Andy before
I thought Rich Paul was Morris’ agent at that time and then parted ways afterwards?
The under the table offer to Bojan Bojondavic to the Bucks last off season changes the fates of the Bucks and Hawks significantly.
I wish AK was in his prime rn. I know his scoring was streaky, but he's 6'9" 220, could handle the ball and defend 5 positions... like a taller, less offputting version of Draymond Green. If I'm not mistaken, I THIIINK AK was the last dude to get a 5×5 in the NBA but i could be tripping
I remember deandre Jordan agree to sign with Dallas but ended up backing out and went back to the clippers
UDONIS HASLEM and the HEATS!!! This is by far the most criminal under the table deal in the NBA and you didn’t mention it. HASLEM is still sitting on the bench collecting paychecks from the Heats while Pat Riley is shining his championship rings!
DJ's situation with the Clippers and Serge Ibaka's situation in Orlando could've been included in this video.
If i remember correctly, Kirilenko didn't even play for Nets fully. And went back to play in Eastern European basketball league. Which just kinda tells he was not in the mood anymore.
Wasn’t Morris with rich Paul when he back out of the contract with the Spurs
Can you do a video on Kenneth faried and why he’s out of the league
Limited skillset, never improved, undersized bigman in a three point shooting league.
I wasn't aware of this wow
DeAndre Jordan also has an agreement to join with Dallas before but stayed with the Clippers.
F David Stern...