Back in 1989 when I used sustanon 250 and anadrol 50 I built strength and had weight gains take to whole new level! My God for me that was incredible gains back then and I felt unstoppable. One main reasons they say bodybuilders trained more intense back then was do to ephredra being legal, it was everywhere and ripforce drinks were sold left and right. I can see the difference between them and now as I enter the gyms. HP833 ephredra were big red capsules and then you had Dan Dushane ultimate orange drink. You could have a bad day and not have much energy for training and take some ephredra mixed with caffeine and it was a different story, You could actually see and know who took it as you turned into a freaking unstoppable machine and just rip into a intensity training as you had to have something to release your energy on. I heard guys dog on the subject saying yeah right, guys today trained just as hard, if you are talking about the average person no! I can see it because these energy drinks and pills with ephredra back then made people go like no tomorrow and it's nothing compared to the energy drinks of today. Not even close. I did find a website that for personal use you can purchase. I feel I'm to old to mess with it as I'm 54 and it can be addictive.
@@josephgilfedder134 Also, if you want it in your hand now, place your order for the ephredra and get to your pharmacy and behind the counter will be broncaid, 7$ for 24 I believe and bigger boxes of 48$. You will be good to go.
Question for Vic: I was just wondering if bodybuilding has always been your passion. Did you ever think of other careers before you decided to do bodybuilding full time? Outside of lifting, what do you like to do in your free time? Keep up the great podcast guys
Victor is " the working mans" bodybuilder. Regular neighborhood dude. I live in Jacksonville Florida and trained at the same gym as Dexter for 20 plus years. Dexter's the exact same way,never acted big time or snobby.🏆
My first course in 92, was one shot of sustanon a week for eight weeks with one shot of winstrol on my 5th week, and and anabol starting on 2x5ml tablets a day peaking on6 tablets a day then down to 2, took nolvadex, and 2 shots of hcga after so many day at the end of the course and another 10 days later to keep my gains for longer, ate6 meals a day, was so sick of cans of tuna fish at the end of it. Went from 10 stone 6lb to 12 stone, and it cost me £100
Question I’ve wondered especially as the summer draws near in Boston: Victor, in your experience how do you feel fish/ shrimp/ shellfish compare to chicken, turkeys and steak? Digestion, prep, cost, overall feelings!
Let's hear our uncrowned Mr.O talk about how everyone's grandma is a coach or a IFBB pro. Did you have a coach before you were uncrowned Mr.O 07. Talk about politics bro you whooped everyone's ass 07
Tom Platz was the guy who made me want to get into bodybuilding! I guess I'm giving my age away with that statement, but he's the reason why my legs were as big as they were in the late 80's and early 90's! 💪
Queloque Victor. Long story very short. I was a Bodybuilder 26 years ago. , I stopped training altogether due to a toxic relationship for 26 years 3,5 years ago I started grinding again. I got alot of muscle back and even more than when I was young. I am 54 years young and would like to know what compound would suit me in your opinion.
It's always so frustrating trying to listen to Victor answer questions as the other 3 just keep butting in like school kids he never gets a chance to finish, before he even answered about steroids another asked about food! Every video the same problem all talking at the same time! Please Victor do your own videos without the others nobody wants to listen to them laughing and talking over you.
I can attest that they are starting to pick smaller guys already in mens physique. My second show back in March I had that shredded v style body but got second overall the judge said the other guy was a tad bit bigger in the back. So I got bigger for my third show which was two weeks ago and got second overall to a 19 year old ken doll and when I approached the judge after the show he said I was shredded and all but I was too big. 🙄
Question for Vick: do you think sub q injections for testosterone is as good as IM injections? Would it have to be administered more frequently? Especially on trt scar tissue is a big problem when injecting IM 2x a week. And is there a limit to the MGs you can take subq ( 100mg compared to 500mg ). Thank you guys love the show
NO THEY ARE NOT AS EFFECTIVE. YOU CAN GET BUILDUP OF OIL PLUS IT TAKES LONGER FOR THE OIL TO SUBSIDE. THERE'S A REASON WHY THE BOTLLE'S AND AMPS SAY IM. ROTATE YOUR INJECTION SITES TO AVOID SCAR TISSUE BUILDUP.
no its not. and the issue with scar tissue is exactly why i stopped. ppl think hopping on TRT is the holy grail... lol ITS NOT! You wil get tired of the injections and the pain that comes with it eventually, dont be deluded.
For trt it’s great. Dante Trudel had a post about a study from Stanford about sub q vs IM. Subq had lower estrogen levels, lower hematocrit levels and higher testosterone levels. These guys don’t know what they’re talking about. Obviously the size of the shot is limited.5cc
I say this with the utmost respect, the only reason myself and many other ppl watch this podcast is because of Victor. Well spoken, well knowledgeable and very passionate about the sport of BB. The two dudes that direct though should stick to directing, all they do is literally give off beta energy. Clueless on one day, then experts on another day 💀. If you haven’t lived the life of a bodybuilder why would you feel like you can advise ppl in that field?
I'm on rad 140 for 12 weeks and trying to add in test now to get my levels correct what dose should I start with test cyponate 250 ty Craig picklesimer
I love microdosing... I use test prop tho and it's works beautifully. I use 25 mg to 50 mg test prop... I might throw in 1/4 mL tren or deca depending how I feel... Micro dosing all, day long baby💪🏼💪🏼 I take no aromatase inhibitors and no gyno.
Question to Victor I'm 56 years old. i been using RAD 140 and 150 for only couples months now i was diagnosis with a fat liver. what should i do to fix this situation?
Man look even the Golden Era Boys was blasting the FK out of gear. Casey Viator has gone on record saying he knew for a fact Mike Menetzer used to take 2000-3000mg of deca per week and would sprinkle on some dbol candy with it. Casey also said all those guys back then including himself were taking grams of gear Another guy was talking on a podcast when he lived with Mike Mentzer. He said mentzer started using anabolic again later on after he stopped competing. Said Mike was taking 300mg NPP EVERYDAY! 300 ×7= 2100MG Deca per week and said he was growing each week. Guys back then disnt like Test except the powerlifters
There's so much "discussion" if you will in the TRT community about suppressing estrogen, when to or if even to at all. How do you guys on cycle determine when to block estrogen and by how much? Certainly there are numerous benefits to having at least some estrogen in the body for bone density, libido, etc....Do you guys aim for a ratio? By how you feel? Thanks!
How much weed are you guys smoking to say Tom Platz was soft as his best I've seen Vic in 07 and he could only dream of having cross striations like Tom Platz did at his best! Are you kidding me!!😂😂🤔
It’s surprising how little he knows and what bad information he puts out. If you’re taking a low dose do not just blindly use a AI have blood work done if your estrogen is out of range then use a AI and have blood work done again until you find your sweet spot. Having adequate estrogen is just as if not more important than having adequate testosterone levels for overall health.
I am haarie 1year experience 1cycle dbol run 10mg tablets current my ldl 119❤ Hdl 33 forther i takeing steriods r not Suggest best bulking steriods thank u
I have been getting great results from a premix, of 200teste, 100primo, 100 masteron. I try to do 3cc a week want to do every day microdose but the pip is terrible it feels like winstrol mixed with lemon juice 😂, question is what is the best thing to add too it too reduce the pip pain. With out changeing my cycle to much. I'm 44 been using AAS on and off since 20. I'm currently trying to slowly lean out ,want to do my first show in 6 months I'm 5'7" 205, and around 9 to 12 percent body fat my upper body is great my abbs are fully visible, but my legs are 😂 not so lean
@@nickrambo lol it's cheap for a primo source but tested it and it's actually overdosed a little. I guess it's a cheap oil in it that's causing the pip . I have a thew so I might as well use it .
@@jeffmorabito10 They are literally steroids that puts extra stress due to the need to convert to the designated hormone. To name a few: Bolasterone, Methyl1Test, Trendione, Trestolone (steroid thats sold as prohormon)
Lord, these lunks except Victor, don't know crap about old school bb drug use...guys, they had tren back then but we didn't call it tren, it was finaplex and was referred to as fina. That was an acetate. Then there was parabolan that came in 76 mg ampules from France. Conversely, the fina was veterinary and readily obtainable from agricultural warehouse, vets, etc. There were other drugs that don't exist today like bolasterone .
Why when Victor going to answer the question? The gentleman with the yellow T-shirt always starts drinking making those cringy noises. Can you please stop it lol? We already know you guys are sponsored by Redcon
Did he just say testosterone cypionate is fast acting.... i really hope he just said that wrong because Enanthate and cypionate are long acting esters with testosterone not fast acting.
Pls submit your best questions for Victor here. Vic will be picking questions to answer and give away a full case of Redcon1 Energy each week!
VICTOR WON THE OLYMPIA IN 2007! WHO ELSE AGREES??
Back in 1989 when I used sustanon 250 and anadrol 50 I built strength and had weight gains take to whole new level! My God for me that was incredible gains back then and I felt unstoppable. One main reasons they say bodybuilders trained more intense back then was do to ephredra being legal, it was everywhere and ripforce drinks were sold left and right. I can see the difference between them and now as I enter the gyms. HP833 ephredra were big red capsules and then you had Dan Dushane ultimate orange drink. You could have a bad day and not have much energy for training and take some ephredra mixed with caffeine and it was a different story, You could actually see and know who took it as you turned into a freaking unstoppable machine and just rip into a intensity training as you had to have something to release your energy on. I heard guys dog on the subject saying yeah right, guys today trained just as hard, if you are talking about the average person no! I can see it because these energy drinks and pills with ephredra back then made people go like no tomorrow and it's nothing compared to the energy drinks of today. Not even close. I did find a website that for personal use you can purchase. I feel I'm to old to mess with it as I'm 54 and it can be addictive.
I MISS THE ULTIMATE ORANGE AND EPHDRINE!
💯
@@jeffmorabito10 Awesome stuff! It would make a bad day into a kickass day!
Where is the best place to get real ephedra?
@@josephgilfedder134 Also, if you want it in your hand now, place your order for the ephredra and get to your pharmacy and behind the counter will be broncaid, 7$ for 24 I believe and bigger boxes of 48$. You will be good to go.
Question for Vic: I was just wondering if bodybuilding has always been your passion. Did you ever think of other careers before you decided to do bodybuilding full time? Outside of lifting, what do you like to do in your free time? Keep up the great podcast guys
Victor is " the working mans" bodybuilder. Regular neighborhood dude. I live in Jacksonville Florida and trained at the same gym as Dexter for 20 plus years. Dexter's the exact same way,never acted big time or snobby.🏆
No way. I always thought Dexter was a prick.
Hey Victor great to see you doing well! Tour intros are hillarious! Is generation iron stationed at NJ? Thx come by gymnyc sometumes!
My first course in 92, was one shot of sustanon a week for eight weeks with one shot of winstrol on my 5th week, and and anabol starting on 2x5ml tablets a day peaking on6 tablets a day then down to 2, took nolvadex, and 2 shots of hcga after so many day at the end of the course and another 10 days later to keep my gains for longer, ate6 meals a day, was so sick of cans of tuna fish at the end of it. Went from 10 stone 6lb to 12 stone, and it cost me £100
I’m a big fan of micro dosing. I also use peptides IGF 1 2. Question: can you inter muscular with peptides???
Victor better be get a bag of cash for having to hang with these guy’s 💯
My boy with the Atilis gym shirt!! That’s my gym graduated from Wildwood High in 2013
Yeah, I used to go to that gym all the time when we visited Wildwood
Question I’ve wondered especially as the summer draws near in Boston: Victor, in your experience how do you feel fish/ shrimp/ shellfish compare to chicken, turkeys and steak? Digestion, prep, cost, overall feelings!
Great episode, guys! 💪
Very expensive anabolics in USA
In Pakistan u get 10 ampoules of test bayer pharma in 6 dollars..
Are you sure its not fake ?
Just keep using hcg and you won’t crash. At least it works for me.
Let's hear our uncrowned Mr.O talk about how everyone's grandma is a coach or a IFBB pro. Did you have a coach before you were uncrowned Mr.O 07. Talk about politics bro you whooped everyone's ass 07
Tom Platz was the guy who made me want to get into bodybuilding! I guess I'm giving my age away with that statement, but he's the reason why my legs were as big as they were in the late 80's and early 90's! 💪
Queloque Victor. Long story very short. I was a Bodybuilder 26 years ago. , I stopped training altogether due to a toxic relationship for 26 years 3,5 years ago I started grinding again. I got alot of muscle back and even more than when I was young. I am 54 years young and would like to know what compound would suit me in your opinion.
Bro how you be in a toxic relationship for 26 years💀
It's always so frustrating trying to listen to Victor answer questions as the other 3 just keep butting in like school kids he never gets a chance to finish, before he even answered about steroids another asked about food! Every video the same problem all talking at the same time! Please Victor do your own videos without the others nobody wants to listen to them laughing and talking over you.
So True 😅😅😅
I can attest that they are starting to pick smaller guys already in mens physique. My second show back in March I had that shredded v style body but got second overall the judge said the other guy was a tad bit bigger in the back. So I got bigger for my third show which was two weeks ago and got second overall to a 19 year old ken doll and when I approached the judge after the show he said I was shredded and all but I was too big. 🙄
Time to switch classes, you're way too jacked for MP bro.
Vlad you are top and your team of generation iron. love and blessing to all
💪💪💪
Question for Vick: do you think sub q injections for testosterone is as good as IM injections? Would it have to be administered more frequently? Especially on trt scar tissue is a big problem when injecting IM 2x a week. And is there a limit to the MGs you can take subq ( 100mg compared to 500mg ). Thank you guys love the show
NO THEY ARE NOT AS EFFECTIVE. YOU CAN GET BUILDUP OF OIL PLUS IT TAKES LONGER FOR THE OIL TO SUBSIDE. THERE'S A REASON WHY THE BOTLLE'S AND AMPS SAY IM. ROTATE YOUR INJECTION SITES TO AVOID SCAR TISSUE BUILDUP.
no its not. and the issue with scar tissue is exactly why i stopped. ppl think hopping on TRT is the holy grail... lol ITS NOT! You wil get tired of the injections and the pain that comes with it eventually, dont be deluded.
@@jeffmorabito10Why are you screaming
For trt it’s great. Dante Trudel had a post about a study from Stanford about sub q vs IM. Subq had lower estrogen levels, lower hematocrit levels and higher testosterone levels. These guys don’t know what they’re talking about. Obviously the size of the shot is limited.5cc
U can go subQ. It’s just fine but it’s supposed to take a little potency off but not that much. It’s great for microdosing
I say this with the utmost respect, the only reason myself and many other ppl watch this podcast is because of Victor. Well spoken, well knowledgeable and very passionate about the sport of BB. The two dudes that direct though should stick to directing, all they do is literally give off beta energy. Clueless on one day, then experts on another day 💀. If you haven’t lived the life of a bodybuilder why would you feel like you can advise ppl in that field?
They all seem to add incredible value. And the questions seem interesting.
@@stevegreene94 Beta Male!!!🤣💀
I'm on rad 140 for 12 weeks and trying to add in test now to get my levels correct what dose should I start with test cyponate 250 ty Craig picklesimer
I love microdosing... I use test prop tho and it's works beautifully. I use 25 mg to 50 mg test prop... I might throw in 1/4 mL tren or deca depending how I feel... Micro dosing all, day long baby💪🏼💪🏼
I take no aromatase inhibitors and no gyno.
Question to Victor I'm 56 years old. i been using RAD 140 and 150 for only couples months now i was diagnosis with a fat liver. what should i do to fix this situation?
Take tudca and NAC
@@thejuiceisloose3785 what is tudca and NAC?
Man look even the Golden Era Boys was blasting the FK out of gear. Casey Viator has gone on record saying he knew for a fact Mike Menetzer used to take 2000-3000mg of deca per week and would sprinkle on some dbol candy with it.
Casey also said all those guys back then including himself were taking grams of gear
Another guy was talking on a podcast when he lived with Mike Mentzer. He said mentzer started using anabolic again later on after he stopped competing. Said Mike was taking 300mg NPP EVERYDAY! 300 ×7= 2100MG Deca per week and said he was growing each week. Guys back then disnt like Test except the powerlifters
Yep only the powerlifters took test , most guys 750 per week
Skits is insane lol 😂
😂
My fav one is when he's asking for gear😂😂😂
Actually winstrol is used for drying out. Lots of guys used deca/winny back then
There's so much "discussion" if you will in the TRT community about suppressing estrogen, when to or if even to at all. How do you guys on cycle determine when to block estrogen and by how much? Certainly there are numerous benefits to having at least some estrogen in the body for bone density, libido, etc....Do you guys aim for a ratio? By how you feel? Thanks!
When side effects start
What are the best cutting and bulking steroids to use micro dose and what are the mg that should taken
How much weed are you guys smoking to say Tom Platz was soft as his best I've seen Vic in 07 and he could only dream of having cross striations like Tom Platz did at his best! Are you kidding me!!😂😂🤔
It’s surprising how little he knows and what bad information he puts out. If you’re taking a low dose do not just blindly use a AI have blood work done if your estrogen is out of range then use a AI and have blood work done again until you find your sweet spot. Having adequate estrogen is just as if not more important than having adequate testosterone levels for overall health.
Victor is huge ! he is looking great 👍
100%
In the beginning I can’t understand what the jokes are lol I got my phone phone speaker shoved into my ear n can’t understand what he saying 😂lol
Are prohormnes best use if not competing?
Trash
I'm 47 year old how i should used what dose of test
When you get sponsored your juice is uncostly
Tell me this dude vlad doesn't look like beavis? Lol picture him shaved with blond hair😂
Vic is making a huge mistake primo was not phinoplex that was parabolan, let's get the fact straight
Parabolan was tren hex.
Finaplix ! It was Tren Ace. You don't know shit either
Victor said Tren was called Finaplix which is correct also finajet
I am haarie
1year experience 1cycle dbol run 10mg tablets current my ldl 119❤
Hdl 33 forther i takeing steriods r not
Suggest best bulking steriods thank u
Vic is #1
Definitely
I have been getting great results from a premix, of 200teste, 100primo, 100 masteron. I try to do 3cc a week want to do every day microdose but the pip is terrible it feels like winstrol mixed with lemon juice 😂, question is what is the best thing to add too it too reduce the pip pain. With out changeing my cycle to much. I'm 44 been using AAS on and off since 20. I'm currently trying to slowly lean out ,want to do my first show in 6 months I'm 5'7" 205, and around 9 to 12 percent body fat my upper body is great my abbs are fully visible, but my legs are 😂 not so lean
What shitty brand of gear did you use?
@@nickrambo lol it's cheap for a primo source but tested it and it's actually overdosed a little. I guess it's a cheap oil in it that's causing the pip . I have a thew so I might as well use it .
Use insulin syringes
I remember 100 5mg pills bottle of Dbol was 25$
Now it's $50 and 10mg. Which means price is even lower now.
Dollar has lost its value for the past twenty years
Best of the best 💯
💪
victor question do porhormones work
Stay away from those mate, those are basically rejected steroids that are being sold thanks to some loopholes in the legislation.
WHAT PRO HORMONES YOU REFFERING TOO? THE BANNED ONES NEED MORE INFO. THANKS
@@jeffmorabito10 They are literally steroids that puts extra stress due to the need to convert to the designated hormone. To name a few: Bolasterone, Methyl1Test, Trendione, Trestolone (steroid thats sold as prohormon)
Liver king spends 11 thousands per month.....
Which steroids make you loose hair ?
Testosterone ?
GH?
TREN FOR SURE, RIGHT?
Tren and proviron
Masteron too
Of course he is lying in an old seminar he said maximum amount he used is 100 mg/day. He didn't specify names in that video.
Lord, these lunks except Victor, don't know crap about old school bb drug use...guys, they had tren back then but we didn't call it tren, it was finaplex and was referred to as fina. That was an acetate. Then there was parabolan that came in 76 mg ampules from France. Conversely, the fina was veterinary and readily obtainable from agricultural warehouse, vets, etc.
There were other drugs that don't exist today like bolasterone .
The Boyfriends are definitely buying for them🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Is viktor crazy? Platz was anything but soft on stage
Why when Victor going to answer the question? The gentleman with the yellow T-shirt always starts drinking making those cringy noises.
Can you please stop it lol? We already know you guys are sponsored by Redcon
Vic I want an apology for your bigoted remarks on previous vid…
More gear jokes plz
Vic talking BS
Pod 💯💯🦾
haahahahahaahahahahahahaahahahah
finaject
Essan the sellout is back!
Gh
The most expensive is increlex (IGF)
Yes its top notch igf
Did he just say testosterone cypionate is fast acting.... i really hope he just said that wrong because Enanthate and cypionate are long acting esters with testosterone not fast acting.