Now that the Jig Grinder is all back together and functioning, Glenn and I take you on a tour of how to operate it. Stay tuned, there is much more to come.
I'm 26; been in the trade about 3-4 years. I work with a lot of older guys its nice to see real tool makers having fun not being so serious all the time and still being very informative and fun at the same time.you dont realize your learning at the time your being entertained and it all just sinks in. thank you guys for what you are doing you know the trade is dying but I think guys my age(kids) who see its alot better then getting screamed at and being called a dumbass because you dont have 40 years under your belt thanks you keep it up and ill keep coming back to learn!!! this show should be in every tool and die class hands down !!!!!!!!
In the 80s we used these to make cams. I did the programming for a couple of years for our analog CNC setup with paper tape. Ted, the owner always said these were the machines that won the war (II)
I think they have been smoking a little weed before they made the video... They guy with longer hair and an ear ring supplies the "Gear" every week. Funny that the "Grumpy" guy that normally runs their jig grinders wouldn't tell them how to use it … The "egg beater" set up cracked me up …
Moore makes arguably the most precision Jig Bores and Jig Grinders in the world .It was some thing to see you scraping the ways ...I have been a tool die gage maker for 30 yrs. I would never attempt to scrape the head slide ways on a Moore Jig Grinder ..My hats off to you..
This isn't the quality I've come to expect from STI videos. The verbal teaching content was low, and the humor content was excessive. A little is good, and until this video, I think you've managed it well. That said, I did learn a bit about the Jig Grinder..but it was mostly through observing what it did during the short moment(s) it was in operation. I suggest a bit of a re-group is in order and to have a plan going forward. Maybe take a look at some older content and make a comparison. There are comments about the lack of new and dwindling supply of experienced machinists. As a new hobbyist I'm trying to learn as much as I can, so I'm reading what I can and watching video's on RUclips is a fair-to-good source, depending on who is delivering the content. In another attempt to broaden my learning, I've also went as far to check the local vocational schools. The wait list for classes is over 7 months, so I think the with a lot of trades, might be suffering from a lack of a place to learn.
Tool makers are often depicted as too serious. We don't think it has to be that way. So we injected humor in an attempt to make learning a fun experience. Learning does not have to be always serious. Thank you for your comment.
This is the cool machine DON ,Im very happy when i watch your clips . I've got moore model 3 and that is only one in VN i keep it allmost 10year and dont know how to use that ,and now i can im super happy and thank again DON !
At 15:00, the little guys that hold the cover. If you remove this cover you will discover a round rail that should have adjustable stoppers that enable you to set the limits of the C-axis, your oscillating head. In case you doing partial circle. So the operator is not the hard stop like you mentioned.
That`s a great machine Don, I have a job for it right now I have to machine a bearing cap from a Dana differential and your grinder would do it in "jig time" I am torn between the Bridgeport and rotary table or a face plate setup on the lathe I really need a Moore Jig Grinder!!!! I enjoy the videos "keep em coming" Cheers Ernie ........in the UK
I noticed the Moore tool cabinet on the left. Does that bad boy come with the Moore 1 2 3 blocks, Moore rotab, and Moore Sin Plate...complete with all the goodies?
You're welcome! I've been busy with some other aspects of the business as of recent, but we'll be back soon with something we think everyone will find interesting.
You know, If you participate in engineering forums etc it can all get real stiff. Everyone 'knows' it all and the egos can be grey and huge. You cant please everyone all the time eh. I like the laughs and I learnt something about how this fine piece of machinery works. Simples.
At 1:30, thats a good one, there is no water. This gage shows the temperature of the rotating head. 5 degrees Fahrenheit increase = .0001 per side bigger. On the right side of the head there are 2 heaters that suppose to hold the temperature stable.
@@SuburbanToolInc It can be adjusted to grind 1.5 degree of taper------Our people are Not allwed to adjust this setting without supervision----very very picky!!!!!!
Even the 50 year old machines will accurately grind a taper, increasing or decreasing up to 1.25°. There is a double lock knuckle that controls this. It takes a nice granite square and a tenth indicator to get it back to almost vertical. Most guys will always set a bit of a taper, maybe a half tenth at the bottom of a
Sup boys in America, I had no idea what a jig grinder is. Everything shown and told in this video I've heard it first hand off you guys and I appreciate you telling me.
Don, in appearance and personal manner, you remind me of the Chief Engineer at one of my first jobs. He was a fine gentleman too.
+MrShobar Thank you
I'm 26; been in the trade about 3-4 years. I work with a lot of older guys its nice to see real tool makers having fun not being so serious all the time and still being very informative and fun at the same time.you dont realize your learning at the time your being entertained and it all just sinks in. thank you guys for what you are doing you know the trade is dying but I think guys my age(kids) who see its alot better then getting screamed at and being called a dumbass because you dont have 40 years under your belt thanks you keep it up and ill keep coming back to learn!!! this show should be in every tool and die class hands down !!!!!!!!
I'm glad you're able to take something away from our videos! That's the goal with all of these. Thanks again for watching.
In the 80s we used these to make cams. I did the programming for a couple of years for our analog CNC setup with paper tape. Ted, the owner always said these were the machines that won the war (II)
Hahaha. Ive been running a jig grinder for over 25 years. Love the humor in this video
I think they have been smoking a little weed before they made the video... They guy with longer hair and an ear ring supplies the "Gear" every week. Funny that the "Grumpy" guy that normally runs their jig grinders wouldn't tell them how to use it … The "egg beater" set up cracked me up …
I'm close to the same.
We have a Moore no2 from the early 70's.. still the most accurate machine in the shop
Super bummed to miss you at IMTS 2018, Don. You're a legend sir.
Moore makes arguably the most precision Jig Bores and Jig Grinders in the world .It was some thing to see you scraping the ways ...I have been a tool die gage maker for 30 yrs. I would never attempt to scrape the head slide ways on a Moore Jig Grinder ..My hats off to you..
Got that right, this machine is one of my favorites. Glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks again for watching.
I saw ways being scraped at the mfg site. defo cool to watch. patience needed
I am assuming that Glenn is Don's son in law. N o choice but to employ him.
I'm thinking more like Glen must hold the note on the property.
This isn't the quality I've come to expect from STI videos. The verbal teaching content was low, and the humor content was excessive. A little is good, and until this video, I think you've managed it well. That said, I did learn a bit about the Jig Grinder..but it was mostly through observing what it did during the short moment(s) it was in operation. I suggest a bit of a re-group is in order and to have a plan going forward. Maybe take a look at some older content and make a comparison.
There are comments about the lack of new and dwindling supply of experienced machinists. As a new hobbyist I'm trying to learn as much as I can, so I'm reading what I can and watching video's on RUclips is a fair-to-good source, depending on who is delivering the content. In another attempt to broaden my learning, I've also went as far to check the local vocational schools. The wait list for classes is over 7 months, so I think the with a lot of trades, might be suffering from a lack of a place to learn.
Tool makers are often depicted as too serious. We don't think it has to be that way. So we injected humor in an attempt to make learning a fun experience. Learning does not have to be always serious. Thank you for your comment.
I for one think Glen has livened up the videos a bit and appreciate the shop talk humor a good bit. Carry on and don't feed the trolls, fellas.
Thank you for your input
This is the cool machine DON ,Im very happy when i watch your clips . I've got moore model 3 and that is only one in VN i keep it allmost 10year and dont know how to use that ,and now i can im super happy and thank again DON !
You're welcome! Hopefully I was able to help you figure it out a little bit. Thanks again for watching.
WE have 6 of those and a cnc more jig grinder with 40 by 24 inch travel ----all are over 40 years old!!!!!!
Forgot --also have 2 jig borers build on the same frame .
At 15:00, the little guys that hold the cover. If you remove this cover you will discover a round rail that should have adjustable stoppers that enable you to set the limits of the C-axis, your oscillating head. In case you doing partial circle. So the operator is not the hard stop like you mentioned.
Keep us laughing Don!
Thanks for taking the time to make video and educate.
We love people like you that have a sense of humor.
That`s a great machine Don, I have a job for it right now I have to machine a bearing cap from a Dana differential and your grinder would do it in "jig time" I am torn between the Bridgeport and rotary table or a face plate setup on the lathe I really need a Moore Jig Grinder!!!! I enjoy the videos "keep em coming"
Cheers Ernie ........in the UK
As a upcoming young toolmaker info like this is so greatly appreciated cnc I'm good to go but grinding in general is becoming a lost art
Good old Moore tools jig grinder :)
I noticed the Moore tool cabinet on the left. Does that bad boy come with the Moore 1 2 3 blocks, Moore rotab, and Moore Sin Plate...complete with all the goodies?
That machine is a beast
You guys are to much fun !!!!!! LOL !!!!!
Ah, Glens back, does this mean he is being a good Boy? So are these only to do circulate bores with.
Glen's mullet is rad
That's because Glenn is a rad dude!
SuburbanTool Inc thanks for replying! I love Don and Glen's banter! please keep em' coming!
You're welcome! I've been busy with some other aspects of the business as of recent, but we'll be back soon with something we think everyone will find interesting.
You know, If you participate in engineering forums etc it can all get real stiff. Everyone 'knows' it all and the egos can be grey and huge. You cant please everyone all the time eh.
I like the laughs and I learnt something about how this fine piece of machinery works. Simples.
Thank you we appreciate your comments.
Great comedy double act - let's see more of Glen.
At 1:30, thats a good one, there is no water. This gage shows the temperature of the rotating head. 5 degrees Fahrenheit increase = .0001 per side bigger.
On the right side of the head there are 2 heaters that suppose to hold the temperature stable.
it'll only be Y axis that'll incrase -
I can see how you can make the diameter of the hole very precise, but what about location?
has ways and handwheels like a mill, however much more accurate.
Awsome , never seen one in action.
LMAO start watching from abou 14:50...... absolutely love this video
Is the plastic consistent enough in thickness to not throw that stand off a few tenths having it under the mounts?
We dont beleive so, however we have a 50 millionth readout. If it moved at all it would show up there and we would make our correction.
I've seen tapered holes in die sections ground on a jig grinder, could you show how to do that?
+4x4machinist We might consider doing that. Right now we have other videos ahead of this, we appreciate your comments.
@@SuburbanToolInc It can be adjusted to grind 1.5 degree of taper------Our people are Not allwed to adjust this setting without supervision----very very picky!!!!!!
Even the 50 year old machines will accurately grind a taper, increasing or decreasing up to 1.25°. There is a double lock knuckle that controls this. It takes a nice granite square and a tenth indicator to get it back to almost vertical. Most guys will always set a bit of a taper, maybe a half tenth at the bottom of a
1/2" deep hole.
Precise
Ditto
Sir u are trainer
Sup boys in America, I had no idea what a jig grinder is. Everything shown and told in this video I've heard it first hand off you guys and I appreciate you telling me.