Best Audio Interface for Music Producers (NO LATENCY!!)
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Best Audio Interface for Music Producers (NO LATENCY!!)
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Never knew that explains why its $1000
omg, 1K
lol then look up how much the plugins are
That one in her hand is not the twin which is $999. She has a quad which is closer to $2k 😬
Even the Twin costs more like 2k if you want to buy the plugins. And if you don't, there's no reason to buy it.
I always went back to apollo because of the plugin, now that of them are native i’m not much interested in their interface.
The Console app is dope, but the Unison tech on the Preamp channels is what really sold me on Apollo. Modeling the analog behavior of the Unison plugins sold me to the point-of routing the Apollo's output through them.
Professional engineers choose RME
Agreed!
I did, for 14 years. Then I bought a Prism.
@@d.lafollette bad decision
@@user-mv8vc3zt1y Why do you say that? I'm a full-time audio engineer & used RME for well over a decade and can hear things through the Prism I could never hear through my RME interface.
But don't take my word for it, Iron Mountain just chose Prism interfaces for all archiving work of 100's of thousands of master tapes at their massive underground facility in PA specifically for the extreme clarity.
which RME model?
I got a Behringer, and I'm able to get it down 6 ms of latency. I just move the notes or use some kind of groove template.
the Apollo does about 2ms round trip latency
@@igorzavalnyi5341 That’s FAST.
Strange, I thought Behringer would be faster than my internal Realtek ALC892. With asio4all and 160 (input+output) samples, I had like 3.6ms. And I think it's slow for music I play. May be numbers are very inacurate. And on different audio interfaces will mean different physical latency. Anyway most of times I noticably feel that latency, especially when play somthing fast.
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@RazorW900 The problem is gonna be stuttering at that low of latency on your motherboar's sound card. The Behringer is going to maintain a lower latency as the track starts to take up more processing power. At that point, the onboard card will be skipping and stuttering like crazy while the Behringer/audio interface won't do that at the same level of processing power. The interface is definitely superior in that way. The interface may have some of its own on-board RAM or something.
sure, you can have direct monitoring with close to zero latency with any soundcard. but you won't have 6ms of latency, if you put Autotune, EQ, Compressor and Saturation into the recording chain, that the singer hears on his headphones. Thats why the apollo is better.
I never have a problem with latency in plugins. With hardware It's too short to notice.
Which was thru for 10 years ago, no need anymore.
Ppl who can afford it say dumb shit like that lol..I have an Apollo x16 & and the one in the video and with my m1 max I have the best of both worlds..stop following what others say lol
My antelope audio discrete 8 pro synergy core interface does the same thing super cool!
can u send it over so i can test it? .... > :D
@@AnbuAssassin 😂😂
"You never have to reducer buffer size"??What if you are recording VSTi?
The silicon Macs just put uad on a run for their money. They are blazing fast
What do you mean by that?
@@OneC8 you can run dozens of plugins in a chain and still be in 32ms buffer size which is basically real time. 6ms
@@themarcosaguila1but thats daw latency. The apollo interfaces are special because of on board dsp stuff. As example if you load a fabfilter plugin it will have a internal latency of like 60ms no matter your compute power. As great macs are at lowering the daw and driver latency to like 6-12ms this only counts in a empty project.
Indeed, not only the M2, but all CPU's. I can record and mix in one project and use all plugins I wan't, especially VST3 plugins that do not consume CPU power when not in use. UAD knows this and I't's a matter of time they will go fully native, that is why they have come up with their new interfaces, they will become better and eventually without plugins support.
@@Apticx It only counts while recording, not while mixing. While mixing latency is less important if you have powerful silicon like M2 silicon and when do you use UAD plugins the most? While mixing. If a Artist needs plugins, I use the plugin from my Fireface UFX II without recording them, but it is stillpleasont for the artist without adding to the latency. For less money, you have better solutions then UAD. You can buy hardware. Although I used UAD a lot, I still think they are overrated.
Absolutely love the Apollo! I have the 2nd generation 8P unit!!
Thanks for this my last session on a focus right overloaded every 5 seconds
Console has so many routing benefits.. it’s literally like having a digital console on your laptop. If you can dream it you can pretty much do it. If you have the In/outs ;) or get wild with the virtual channels
Was considering this interface, but decided to go with the Neumann MT48
Damn your ballin😂😂😂👍
@@ApexNYC Lol, I wouldn't say ballin', but I work for a company that retails their products, so I was able to snag one at attractive price for "professional development and product knowledge and experience"
@@NOLASkaGuitarist Nice,it's a great looking piece and i bet it sounds amazing.
@@ApexNYC If I only could get it I would know for sure, but it's Neumann so I have high expectations and feel comfortable in saying I probably won't be disappointed. I've been impressed by every review from trustworthy sources. Unfortunately, I have to wait just a bit before the one with my name on it comes to me as current batches are already on pre-order. I'm currently using Clarett from Focusrite and it's a great system. Honestly I wouldn't have bought the MT48 since the Clarett is nice enough, but I was looking to upgrade my pres specifically and already looking at 1k at least for two channels, so I figured why not get better pres, converters, and a touchscreen UI and built in DSP while I was at it. The AES67/audio over Ethernet option is just icing on the cake. Though I think it a while until I'm ballin' hard enough to set up a Dante system 😂
@@ApexNYCare you not capable of making, and or, saving up $2000?
Love the UA stuff but I gotta say conversion and pré quality is far from the best in the price range. Go get a RME.
Also it just sounds so damn good
Does this vary between the Apollo twin and the Apollo x? (Is the Apollo solo even worth mentioning?)
I’m often confused as to the difference.
The Apollo is good but at the same time I wouldn’t suggest it due to the only real benefit OVER other brands at this stage being that and just availability to UAD plugins which, if you’re not buying SPECIFICALLY FOR those plugins, you don’t REALLY need otherwise.
A good alternative would be the MOTU Ultralight Mk5, which I’ve been using for a half a year and PREFER to my Apollo Twin.
Dude just stop lol
RME all the way
Ive seen you commenting a couple of times here, @BR_READDY225 are you just mad that other AIs sound as good or better with close to the same latency than the apollo now adays without having to be stuck to a specific computer platform to work properly and now that some PIs run natively is the gimmic really worth? lolololol
I have apollo variants and other AI, SSl2+, ID24, RME, a couple others and they do exactly what the apollo does or better for slightly less.
(I rec guitar, vocals, a synth, and a bass)
There is no real need for it now adays unless your computer is trash.
Question. For having an Apollo I don’t think I’ve watched you using LUNA is there a specific reason to not use it?
I’ve seen a lot of professionals using RME, Antelope and Prism. Those UAD Apollo are the expensive version of the focusrite Scarlett lmao
prism user here but if had to change for any reason my pick will be rme or motu
If you think uad apollo is the as the expensive version of the Scarlett you've clearly never owned an apollo lol. It's ok broke boy
@@emfromthechi sure buddy
@@FuranGameplays lmao point proven. You've never owned one 🤣
I love mine!
It takes the load of uad plug ins only if I remember right.
Just for those thinking it helps in any case.
Nope, it helps if you purchase their products
there are other interfaces that have direct monitoring
even my old m-box has direct monitoring...... but if you work with a bunch of huge plug-ins that means sh**
i had an apollo for like 2 months with the m1 macbook and that shit only let me open 1 plug-in at a time🤨🤨🤨🤨 had to sell it
Oh no really? Was it a dual core or quad?
Was probably the solo
Check out the Neumann mt48 desktop interface
Audient 🎉❤
And it only works with their plugins. The zero latency doesn’t work with other vsts right?
Latency free is not a thing. The audio still has to go through conversion even if you are using the feature that maps an input channel directly to its corresponding integer output channel through firmware rather than driver. Any other routing using UAD console also sends the audio through the driver. This just means it doesn’t incur the additional latency from roundtripping the audio through a client app that subscribes to receive audio from said interface driver such as a DAW
Both the audio samples that come into the driver and get routed to the DAW incur the device’s minimum input latency. When you are monitoring the audio samples from the driver before those samples get routed to DAW you are shaving off the additional output latency that comes from routing audio through a client app and back to the driver for processing
thank you! I was looking for this
I own Apollo interfaces and honestly they’re good for ua plug-in but that’s about it. Even the newer gen conversion is pretty vanilla
Wait, I’m confused 😅 how come you don’t have to reduce buffer size?
OR use studio one 6
What studio one 6 does? I’m not aware of its latency related features
@@henriquematias1986 does far as what?
Why are you stating to use STUDIO ONE 6?
@@anthoni8337Some Daws actually use more processing power by default. Studio One you will notice you can stack plugins way farther with less hiccup than any other Daw like Logic and especially FL. Ableton is kinda like that as well.
Thank you
Lately I have seen a lot of negative comments about uad Apollo. I think in some cases it’s a win, when you buy the interface “Mac user “ it comes with a fully functional recording system/ DAW and a few plugins that most of us would be buying either way… compressors and preamps, reverbs , Antares auto, depends if they are doing a promotion etc
If you don’t own a DAW yet it’s a win. And I have tried Luna it’s good. Getting the twin is a good decision, if you need more mic pres then I would say look somewhere else.
I must say it Feels good to punch in some vocals anytime within a session without the latency issues…
Killer audio interface 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Well most real professionals actually use a mixing desk plus real outboard and run anything but these shark processors from from 2007 which is 400mhz single core.
Hi Karra! Love your vids would it possible to see you console/ protools settings?
Sure, you can buy protools template and boom, you got it :)
Have you seen the new Neumann one? MT73 I think. It seems to me very cool! But I love my Apollo :)
What about midi samples? Do you still get latency at high HW buffer sizes or does UAD have a workaround for this? Thanks
U mean having to avoid INCREASING buffer size, not REDUCING buffer size
Scarlett solo works great once you download their asio but hey
Scarlett is nice but it's entry level. Not pro grade at all
Thanks so much for giving us this important information. It makes you directly seem really likeable and nice. It definetly doesn't make you seem totally self obsessed and arrogant at all how you fake flex with your gear like that to fool us into thinking it's just a nice genuine advice for the common dumb producer who can't decide what to buy for themselves but its definetly not an ad for UAD.
You need a hug.
Apollo solo vs focusrite scarlett 2i2
Nooo! Mine doesn't work and stopped working when Apple introduced their Apple silicon chipsets on their machines... mine has been coughing up blood ever since... no connection, various error messages etc... hangs... the machine works when connected to a 2014 Mac Mini... new Apple silicon? coughs up blood.
Jist bought the apollo duo x heritage ,sooo expensive hope I'm gonna love it. 1st interface m audio crap 2nd motu track 16 .Hopefully at my end game this time
How do you find it?
How was it?
@Carlos Mohia I really like it so far ,but you have to hide the unpurchased uad or you wont know what you have and will have to close windows for days.I can run 4 or 5 at the same time
Apogee symphony is the best
Nope, RME Babyface Pro FS, RME Fireface UCX II and RME Fireface UFX II are the best
Is uad solo worth buying ?
Any other audio interfaces that u can get that u can record latency free with ? With good sound quality as the Apollo??
RME Babyface / Fireface
Aha Apollo Interface. I have an Apollo Twin Duo USB
any reviews on antelope zen go?
Nope, but have owned Discrete 8, OSSC, and now use Orion 32+ in my commercial studio. Love em except for occasional software finickiness. Also love my UAD plugins, just not a fan of Apollo preamps.
Which you can also get from other interface without spending too much. 😂
UAD is obsolete now, computer are more powerful & other plugins are better so DSP not needed to get low to no latency. Plus Apogee sounds a million times better
I have a double stage of conversion last stage prism first is a old rosetta 200....nothing nowadays sounds good than this ....rosetta is old 20 years but the sound is still gold
Which computer do use?
Facts
How do you get console to run through ableton? There’s “zero latency” on my Solo but then ableton has a whole second of latency 😭
drop that second to last song❗️
Neumann mt48 is the next big move
Look like it, yes. Not a cheap tool to buy, but next level
If you're rich😢
Move to nowhere. Pros use RME
What is RME ?
RME only. They are best
Does a scarlett get latency on FL? Someone pls answer
On the Scarlett you will experience some latency. But you can adjust for latency in your DAW's preferences (check your DAW's manual or search YT for tutorials.
The UA interfaces have multiple processors and handle much of what your computer would typically be processing. That's why you wouldn't experience it with those units.
Scarlett is great, but falls short once you start to use it to make a living. Noise floor is nasty as well.
@@samuelng6441 Nonsense. Please validate those claims.
It does but you have to reduce your buffer rate to rid the latency but you will experience pops and clicks when recording at a lower buffer rate but will sound fine once you raise the buffer rate back up for playback
You will get latency when you record through many plugins because your cpu on your pc is too slow
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I think you should be careful with saying that these interfaces have absolutely no latency and how you'll never have to adjust your buffer size, because that's not really true, is it? Sure, when you record directly into them - it works great, but then try that again with an average, NECESSARY buffer size of around 512, or 1024 samples, which is not uncommon once you're forced to go, say, beyond a setup of a single laptop plus one Apollo interface. Try having a 1500-track template in 4.1 surround, connected to a few VEPro slaves for film/tv gigs. Then your overall latency will still end up shot to sh*t, and you still need to compensate for the delay within your DAW, etc.
TLDR; this near-zero latency works well, but only up to point. Once you start adding a few more bells and whistles or get into a bit more demanding setups you'll quickly see that this isn't going to be a silver bullit.
Any future buyers should realize that, before they invest their hard-earned cash into an interface like this one. Because these things aren't cheap. Not to mention a pain in the *ss if you're on Windows.
Do use Apple or Windows?
Anyone using windows or android today… I just can’t picture it. Both systems are really really bad these days, and I don’t understand why. That windows 11 is a disgrace. All of them after 7 are just no good.
What about Apollo twin??
How do i get it?
holdup it’s a crossover episode w/ the puppet man lol
good to know , why it's so expensive
It has computer processors built-in to power your UAD plugins. Most audio interfaces have no built-in processors
That’s why You work on Prism Titan 😂😂😂
how can i get this please, #link
Manley vox box review pls 🔥
Hello. uad adds its own character to audio in all audio interfaces. While this feels good, it's definitely not a good option for music producers. If you try the apollo solo and apollo twin interfaces respectively, you will hear that the ins and outs of the solo are awful compared to the twin. universalaudio accepts this. because dacs are different. As a result, I use Apollo Twin in my vocal recordings. but while listening apogee duet 3.
I have an Apollo twin x & an Apollo x16 lol.. you have no idea what you’re talking about and clearly don’t know what you’re doing if you need to go thru all of that between two different units lol.. you bedroom beat makers are full ish
Just get x series . Their A/D and D/A converters are great ..
i think gigperformer does exactly what console does for a fraction of the cost please don’t bother with it, saying this as a UA apollo user.
Waves Soundgrid does the same thing but is better
Their preamps and converters are not that great tho
I would like to enter the giveaway for this interface
💯🤜
Pretty sure that A LOT of pros use RME over UAD...
Not really..that’s what you want to believe, stop following the fucking internet
Pro use whatever works for them
What's a RME?
@@ianyaelcg company name
@@ianyaelcg the company that made babyface audiointerface
I need one of these... Latency free!?!?! I have to turn Soothe 2 off when I record or its impossible.
Another reason, they sound awesome..
I prefer audient audio interfaces.
Analogue mixing desk has no latency 😂
Nope, but it has a bunch of useless ass noise and well as no recall..should I keep point shit out?
@@BR_READDY225 mixing consoles have presets and automatic faders. And they sound better.
What Daw is this?
Us poor folk use the volt ⚡️
And now You have to spend $$$$$ on UAD plug-ins
Apolo is for pros not for enthusiasts. For less the price I can have more inputs.
how is your mic so clear? what mic do you use and interface?
😂 you can’t be serious
It is not latency free, the latency is just pretty low.
like most AUDIO INTERFACES LOL
@unknown trust me i understand..i had 2 of them and soldem
@unknown how long you been doing music?
@@LossLeadas Whys this a competition to you? Everyone's got their own preference for what works for them. Chill the fuck out.
@Davey M do yall..what u eat dont make me poop..i lm actually i agreement with you
SSL is also good
Uad is a big mess🙈
Rme rules😎
RME GANG 😎
RME 💪
which RME should I get?! wanna get crisp vocal recordings
@@alreadyit you can't go wrong by choosing any
@@alreadyit UCX 2
AbFab
At near zero latency, not zero latency.
It's a small thing, but none the less different than zero latency.
Everything is rendered in sequence, so it makes sense you can't get to zero. There is a successive set of events that happen every time you press a key. It has to be routed through the effects and the master before anything reaches your ears.
@@Burglecutter Yes, exactly :)
I'm getting one ....and what about apogee symphony...
good interface for rich people
You can often find used Apollo’s on eBay and Reverb selling for 75% below retail price if you’re resourceful, patient, and willing to use pre-owned gear or older generations
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This is bs they still laggy af you need add a lot of satellites for it but still even 50satellites can't handle edm projects just freeze em and smile for the rest of the day
❤🙏🙏
😂
Audient is better….Antelope is better…..many things are better than UAD….
RME is better
Its because you are sponsored. End of story😉
This isn’t a sponsored post 👍🏻
Tons of other interfaces do this. It’s not something unique to Apollo
I have a rodeprocaster 2. What other interfaces can do this??
So weird....first one...Uad.
Lol I love how she casually not mention it cost a million bucks