Dont' forget the rampant fraud by NDIS providers via exploitation and fraudulent billing. The actual participants are the scapegoat for the beancounters.
Oh my god another 20-year-old using big words because they think that's going to make them sound intelligent when they don't actually know what they mean . There is no secret language there is not a systematic procedure to belittle people and make them feel worthless. would you actually like to explain how these words have any correlation to what the subject is actually about or do you just use these words to make you sound cool ?
@@James-kv6kb misinformationalist much? Did you not see Channel 10's news story about 2 months ago, insinuating that people with asd were essentially rorting the NDIS, simply for qualifying for it...
@@James-kv6kb I replied but it it didn't get posted... not surprisingly considering how overt the coercion was, to basically turn on neurodivergent people, it's not on RUclips. This is a news story by channel 7, that was much more sublte in it's coercion to hate on neurodivergent and developmentally delayed people, because apparently we're unfairly privileged for having a neurological disability/condition whatever people would like to refer to it as, which I find to be quite disgusting. Arguably the most debilitating aspect of asd, is our ability to communicate effectively in public/face to face, whether it be in employment spaces or in general. To suggest that we're unfairly privileged and a growing drain on the neurotypical-majority society that we live amongst, is absolutely disgusting. Please watch this story until it is wrapped up. As I've said, it's subtle, but the coercion towards intolerance and disdain is evident ruclips.net/video/4jOBfCzOExc/видео.htmlsi=1gVP5vLYpn7CIwRA
They both were shown around the same time, exactly 3 months ago. This is targeted coercion. I can't even go grocery shopping with headphones and sunglasses on, without the chances of being smirked at, for my disabilities, as if my sensitivity to stimuli is funny to them. The definition of sadism. @@James-kv6kb
Just like most government programs. The NDIS is at heart an essential and needed resource. The problems lay with its implementation, that ends up costing 3 times the price and half the services.
I'm on a disability pension and I know absolutely nothing about this . From my experience they're doing everything possible not to help people or give them services so what is this all about? Where I live I can't get a social worker let alone this bizarre scheme ,you would think they would actually send letters explaining how it works but they don't because it's labour and their completely useless, all they do is talk no action
@@whathappenedtoearth6495 they're not about artificially propping up sectors of society, so that it's fair and politically correct as opposed to making sense so the people with the right skills are in the right jobs as opposed to being there because of quotas
As a self managed fund for special needs people, Ive received billing at over $22 per five minutes spent to send an email! a second email that was between a Services Cordinator and the provider was billed at over $65. These providers are making out like bandits. i.e. A provider of "Art Therapy was trying to bill at the top rate of $271 pr hr. This could be per person with groups 2-5. So taking over $1000per hr for messing about with sticky paint and sloppy clay. NDIS is a shambles and is soon to collapse under its own weight.
I run my own sole trader business and currently have an NDIS client I helped get onto the system. The hours spent trying to get basic supports like moonboots, accessories for a mobility scooter like a bag on the back, and other low cost, one time cost supports, only to get told no is insane. I had to fudge the system by having the client buy one part of an electric bed and put the other under consumables just so they could finally sleep properly. I bill per hour UNDER the limit and have never billed for phone calls, emails or basic communication, I could add an extra few hours per week but I don't because they need all the funding they have and more. Yet the stories I hear of workers billing for playing Xbox with clients, people going on holidays via NDIS and all the other bullshit really makes it hard to justify doing everything legit sometimes. I pray for a proper, in-depth investigation and reform to the entire system so it can actually benefit the people who needed it in the first place, not the businesses and companies tearing through an annual plan in 5 months then applying for a plan review for more funding.
Why is there never any accountability for any of these people. It is very very easy now for schools to get students o to NDIS even though they should not be on NDIS, big money now for schools and therapist, and also phycologist, very big money, but no one will look at that. people are making thousands of dollars.
Mmm sorry, I’m strongly doubting you have any personal experience with a child in school and ndis… Firstly Schools (private and public) don’t take from ndis… they take from the department of education That includes asking for additional support workers/teachers for kids with special needs. NDIS ONLY covers therapy OUTSIDE the education system AND OUTSIDE Medicare. No medical procedures are covered for a child needing multiple surgeries due to a condition caused from their profound autism. No education fees are covered, This by the way allows private and public schools to simply look at a kid and think.. hmm this intellectually disabled kid won’t raise the average grade/overall score of my school And therefore is not good for my business… um no we don’t want him.. send him somewhere else or home school him..(which many parents are forced to do for their already socially struggling kids) So the only point you have is therapist price gouging the ndis. Which I agree they do, ( and it’s already been publicly announced that they’re gonna start hammering down on that and just kicking providers out of the system if the abuse it) As for it being easy to get on ndis… er… sorry but F off… for 2 parents not needing to learn sign language or communication apps with perfect fine kids, who sleep at night, can communicate with words, no extreme OCD, aren’t self harming.. yeah sure you got all the time in the world to get through the NDIA and NDIS and get the referrals , see the specialist ( this is for actual ndis funding, as without the diagnosis , you’d be lucky to get 1k from ndis) I mean I haven’t had an 8 hour night of sleep for years. When I’m solo parenting, I can’t even do a number 2 without my 5y old autistic child being in the bathroom with me. And me and my wife have to work full time just to support the gap fees in specialists hospital fees for our son.. You have no idea what your talking about short of parroting the well known fact that some crappy business take advantage of government schemes at the detriment of the rest of us… But perhaps your of the frame of mind that “hey, tough luck , don’t take everyone else’s money just cause your kid is unlucky” Well. As you get older and need that laser eye surgery for your cataracts or need that knee replacement in your old age.. just remember. You’re not contributing to society.. your a drain on it right.. so like a race horse.. we should just off you? Your knee will never be perfect, nor your sight, you’ll never be as fast physically or mentally (on average) as a 30 year old.
You have no idea what your talking about. I have two boys that are severely Autistic and a daughter that her school got her onto NDIS. you don't know what your talking about. NO the school is Para hills High school. South Australia, and it's people like you that are lying and stealing from everyone. I think you might be a teacher, that is up to the neck in defrauding the government, be very carful, i have spoken to Bill Shorten, i might pass on who you are. Yes i think you might be involved in the stealing and your trying to cover your back side. Oh dear, you said a little too much.@@darmelli954
I'm on a DSP and have found to get any help from NDIS I have to be fully functional to be able to jump through all of the hoops they require you to do but if I was an 11 year old with the slightest case of autisism The gates are open how does this work ?
Hi Jordon, I'm in Queensland and I was informed by *both* the NDIA and Carers Queensland that I was required to meet with and create a plan before the assigned LAC would submit my paperwork. After spending 6 months going through additional, triggering testing processes and diagnoses with my Health Care team to prepare the application, I was blindsided with all of these additional, confusing and stressful steps. I can forward the automated email that was sent to me by the NDIA if that's helpful.
Same in Victoria. I was advised by NDIS that a Community Connections meeting had to be completed before the LAC then sent off the access request. I could no longer send off the access request by myself
And adding to this. All my documents were ready to submit by the NEAMI NDIS access team and when they reached out to do it they were advised that they were no longer able to do the access for me either so it pushed back my date of access so now I'm in limbo of waiting for the decision because it has been more than 21 days since the plan meeting when the LAC sent off my access paperwork
@@kaydenlee-music3742 if you're concerned about how long it's taking I'd definitely recommend putting in a complaint/feedback to the NDIA. My LAC suggested I do the same and has at least been supportive in my confused, stressed, and constantly questioning state. He has mostly seemed confused and trying to learn about what is the right process too. I think I was his first pre-submission client meeting. Fortunately I was approved a few days ago before needing to complain, though no contact/word from my LAC about my access plan meeting yet. No official documents otger than a quick phone call from the NDIA assessor. All up it took about 2 months (not including the summer break). My fingers are crossed that you'll hear something soon!
@@kaydenlee-music3742 I thought I replied last night though it doesn't look like it saved. Thankfully mine was approved last week, though am still waiting for any official paperwork or date for the planning meeting. From the date of submission (after the LAC interview) it took nearly two months for mine to be approved (including the holiday break). My fingers are crossed that you hear something soon!
These guys are being really sneaky and sleazy, hunched over, not wanting to give anything away. The NDIS needs to be tightened up. It’s no wonder they are keeping mum on it-shit will hit the fan when heaps of disability re ipients wil be kicked off rhe scheme
Prove to me that the participants are rorting the tax payer even remotely as much as the providers, and I'll agree with you. Attempting to tarnish the majority of NDIS clients without proof is tantamount to a libel @@gerrycooper56
Definition incoherence creep. Top down delivery of purposefull murky objectives with the pre determined intention to create individual self definition metrics that under the guise of budget reduction, will pressure arbitrage inaccurate, detrimental application of non existant mechanisms or "voluntary" ones with the view to impose restrictions that are budget meeting rather than government obligation of care meeting. Like "work for the dole". A legal contradiction of definition in a sentence. The government seeks to shift its obligation of care away from itself and onto those in need of care and is doung so whilst fracturing its function, and unironically redirecting funds to those who dont need, from those who do. Nothing new here, but pretty good questioning senator, these people are doing this, they DONT get to pretend they are not.
Susan here. I had a terrible experience with an LAC after I was rejected from the NDIS in the early days of the scheme. The only supports available were Crisis resources, I was given a page of phone numbers and sent on my way. I know this was at the beginning but was handled badly. I am glad to hear that LAC's are offering more than this. I am late watching this video I hope the Foundational Supports will help people who are not eligible to be on the NDIS get the support they need.
Running a small business seems to be the exact opposite of this. Some level of competence and the ability to manage costs without reducing services is just not something you ever see in government. Small business closes when it can't manage it - government has a completely pointless chat about it, which costs a fortune, and nothing changes.
As he is a Green, I can't imagine there are too many things on which Senator Steele-John and I would agree but the first half of this is a remarkable exchange, and I applaud him for it! Whatever one thinks about the NDIS, the response of the Head of the Department and the appalling non-entity of a Minister demonstrates that contempt for the Senate is not solely confined to contempt for Senators on the right. To be totally fair, the NDIS bureauceats in the second half seem to have a much better idea of their obligations to give helpful answers, unlike her Departmental Head and useless Minister.
It has taken me 4mths trying to join ndis because of bureaucracy and that just so i can join a disabled job angecy. I had a letter sent to my address about insufficient information and to call them. I called tham they used my address as a security question, then they proceeded to tell my they are not accepting my address as correct as i haven't sent an invoice with my address. The access form also had the wrong email address that you send your information to and it took them 2 months to inform me of the information problem. I also had to upload my ndis access form to centerlink by the job network agency i was trying ro join, its been 2 mths and im still waiting to hear from centerlink to be able to get a job. Not claiming centerlink payments.
As a former LAC in NSW we the partnered, had to follow NDIA directions to a T and were and are not permitted or have the authority to deviate from that. I find it utterly unbelievable that a partner would create a separate/different or additional access pathway on its own accord. They simply DO NOT have that authority
The issue of having to go via LAC for putting in access request was raised at the Every Australian counts forum with Garth O’Brien general manager service design in early November as people were sending in via email then get auto response saying they have to go via LAC. He said you could request access via multiple channels. I asked about applying via email and meeting accessibility needs and he said to put in complaint if not working as it should. He raised ID as an issue for emailed access requests. From all reports I’ve seen in various fb groups people are all still having to go via LAC and this is causing delays & stress. NDIA also seem not to be taking date of emailed submission as start of 21 day clock. The auto reply email is reportedly still happening. The meeting with LACs reportedly make them go through all the info already documented in access request but summarising it which is a recipe for disaster. It seems this process involves some of the planning for when a person does get access. Rather than doing it with a planner. Seems pretty rough to be put through given you’re pretty likely to be rejected.
Compared to American Senators operating in similar committees Australian bureaucrats treat our Senators with at best indifference and at worst barely concealed contempt.
You can't really kick providers off the scheme. They are not "on" it. The government didn't bother requiring any qualifications for the vast majority of providers. The government also didn't require that they sign up to any kind of database. Therefore the government has created the situation where any greedy uneducated person can use vulnerable people to ride the government's overpaid gravy train. This is why abuse of disabled people is rife. Until the government create a database for all providers, they will not be able to actually ban them from providing supports. This was all deliberate by the government as the NDIS was rolled as a jobs scheme. It had far less to do with helping vulnerable people.
QLD had Local lets Vote on the weekend. October State then Federal ? What I find interesting we have 3 Governments in one state. Not one of the 3 fixed the issues.
The beaurocrats won't throw their employer (the Albenese government) under the bus but the Albenese government will throw them under the bus no problem's,,,,why isn't Bill Shorten answering these questions ❓ Incompetence all round 😂😢
We need disclosures about how many people have died or sucidal let alone loss of life as a result of the abuse neglect and exploitation of people who have been treated this way… disclose of these Discusting humans they need accountability jail time then they might start to show up and deliver
It’s not the NDIS that cannot be sustainable but all those on the dole for more than 2 or more years refusing to get work and the 40 billion on aboriginal affairs with no accountability. Then we have this inept government spending billions over seas and a further 40 million on a add for the tax 3 debacle. Let’s not mention the mess the Labor government has created with our own defence forces and the increasing wages of politicians year after year. So to have a go at the NDIS is laughable when this government is allowing the increase of asylum seekers, More bits arriving and no accountability on their own administration always wants to blame the NDIS. Yes there are issues and until all providers are registered then all the private people that have come into the system since they list jobs because if COVID has also caused issues. The NDIS is at the moment the only body that no one needs a certificate etc to start their own business and until there is more accountability by the NDIS body to investigate claims of miss use on both parts, which include participants and providers, then nothing will verve change and we will continue to hear about the blow out. What about the blow outs of this Labor parties spending which is never bought up or the over paid wages of politicians never talked about because we cannot continue to keep paying politicians wages with the gross increases year after year. I get fed up with participants that this is service is not sustainable yet the governments never talk about all those people on the dole for wo years a d longer not lifting a finger to out back into society yet so they get slammed for their kiss use of public money buying grog, tattoos, drugs and failing to get a job tear after year. The answer is plain and simple NO! 😊
For every million spent on actually helping people another 20 million is spent on backside sitting bureaucrats.
Dont' forget the rampant fraud by NDIS providers via exploitation and fraudulent billing. The actual participants are the scapegoat for the beancounters.
Like always. Publicly it’s all smiles and good values. Behind closed doors it’s obfuscation and gaslighting
Oh my god another 20-year-old using big words because they think that's going to make them sound intelligent when they don't actually know what they mean . There is no secret language there is not a systematic procedure to belittle people and make them feel worthless. would you actually like to explain how these words have any correlation to what the subject is actually about or do you just use these words to make you sound cool ?
@@James-kv6kb misinformationalist much?
Did you not see Channel 10's news story about 2 months ago, insinuating that people with asd were essentially rorting the NDIS, simply for qualifying for it...
@@whathappenedtoearth6495 No
@@James-kv6kb I replied but it it didn't get posted... not surprisingly considering how overt the coercion was, to basically turn on neurodivergent people, it's not on RUclips. This is a news story by channel 7, that was much more sublte in it's coercion to hate on neurodivergent and developmentally delayed people, because apparently we're unfairly privileged for having a neurological disability/condition whatever people would like to refer to it as, which I find to be quite disgusting. Arguably the most debilitating aspect of asd, is our ability to communicate effectively in public/face to face, whether it be in employment spaces or in general. To suggest that we're unfairly privileged and a growing drain on the neurotypical-majority society that we live amongst, is absolutely disgusting. Please watch this story until it is wrapped up. As I've said, it's subtle, but the coercion towards intolerance and disdain is evident ruclips.net/video/4jOBfCzOExc/видео.htmlsi=1gVP5vLYpn7CIwRA
They both were shown around the same time, exactly 3 months ago. This is targeted coercion. I can't even go grocery shopping with headphones and sunglasses on, without the chances of being smirked at, for my disabilities, as if my sensitivity to stimuli is funny to them. The definition of sadism. @@James-kv6kb
Just like most government programs. The NDIS is at heart an essential and needed resource. The problems lay with its implementation, that ends up costing 3 times the price and half the services.
So glad we have you there taking them to task Jordon Steele-John.
I'm on a disability pension and I know absolutely nothing about this . From my experience they're doing everything possible not to help people or give them services so what is this all about? Where I live I can't get a social worker let alone this bizarre scheme ,you would think they would actually send letters explaining how it works but they don't because it's labour and their completely useless, all they do is talk no action
It's about employing more burocrats and public servants unfortunately
And the LNP are any better?
@@whathappenedtoearth6495 they're not about artificially propping up sectors of society, so that it's fair and politically correct as opposed to making sense so the people with the right skills are in the right jobs as opposed to being there because of quotas
😂🤮@@James-kv6kb
Drain the swamp.
These people are sick
Why is there so many layers to the beaurocrisy, jobs for mates maybe?
Sometimes it looks like the bureaucracy is bigger than the tax-paying population.
Thank goodness there are people like this guy keeping them honest.
As a self managed fund for special needs people, Ive received billing at over $22 per five minutes spent to send an email!
a second email that was between a Services Cordinator and the provider was billed at over $65.
These providers are making out like bandits.
i.e. A provider of "Art Therapy was trying to bill at the top rate of $271 pr hr. This could be per person with groups 2-5.
So taking over $1000per hr for messing about with sticky paint and sloppy clay.
NDIS is a shambles and is soon to collapse under its own weight.
I find this hard to believe, but I'm not calling you a liar; I'm curious, why can't you just find someone to write your emails at a reasonable price?
I run my own sole trader business and currently have an NDIS client I helped get onto the system.
The hours spent trying to get basic supports like moonboots, accessories for a mobility scooter like a bag on the back, and other low cost, one time cost supports, only to get told no is insane. I had to fudge the system by having the client buy one part of an electric bed and put the other under consumables just so they could finally sleep properly.
I bill per hour UNDER the limit and have never billed for phone calls, emails or basic communication, I could add an extra few hours per week but I don't because they need all the funding they have and more.
Yet the stories I hear of workers billing for playing Xbox with clients, people going on holidays via NDIS and all the other bullshit really makes it hard to justify doing everything legit sometimes.
I pray for a proper, in-depth investigation and reform to the entire system so it can actually benefit the people who needed it in the first place, not the businesses and companies tearing through an annual plan in 5 months then applying for a plan review for more funding.
Why is there never any accountability for any of these people. It is very very easy now for schools to get students o to NDIS even though they should not be on NDIS, big money now for schools and therapist, and also phycologist, very big money, but no one will look at that. people are making thousands of dollars.
Mmm sorry, I’m strongly doubting you have any personal experience with a child in school and ndis…
Firstly
Schools (private and public) don’t take from ndis… they take from the department of education
That includes asking for additional support workers/teachers for kids with special needs.
NDIS ONLY covers therapy OUTSIDE the education system AND OUTSIDE Medicare.
No medical procedures are covered for a child needing multiple surgeries due to a condition caused from their profound autism.
No education fees are covered,
This by the way allows private and public schools to simply look at a kid and think.. hmm this intellectually disabled kid won’t raise the average grade/overall score of my school
And therefore is not good for my business… um no we don’t want him.. send him somewhere else or home school him..(which many parents are forced to do for their already socially struggling kids)
So the only point you have is therapist price gouging the ndis. Which I agree they do, ( and it’s already been publicly announced that they’re gonna start hammering down on that and just kicking providers out of the system if the abuse it)
As for it being easy to get on ndis… er… sorry but F off… for 2 parents not needing to learn sign language or communication apps
with perfect fine kids, who sleep at night, can communicate with words, no extreme OCD, aren’t self harming.. yeah sure you got all the time in the world to get through the NDIA and NDIS and get the referrals , see the specialist ( this is for actual ndis funding, as without the diagnosis , you’d be lucky to get 1k from ndis)
I mean I haven’t had an 8 hour night of sleep for years. When I’m solo parenting, I can’t even do a number 2 without my 5y old autistic child being in the bathroom with me. And me and my wife have to work full time just to support the gap fees in specialists hospital fees for our son..
You have no idea what your talking about short of parroting the well known fact that some crappy business take advantage of government schemes at the detriment of the rest of us…
But perhaps your of the frame of mind that “hey, tough luck , don’t take everyone else’s money just cause your kid is unlucky”
Well. As you get older and need that laser eye surgery for your cataracts or need that knee replacement in your old age.. just remember.
You’re not contributing to society.. your a drain on it right.. so like a race horse.. we should just off you? Your knee will never be perfect, nor your sight,
you’ll never be as fast physically or mentally (on average) as a 30 year old.
You have no idea what your talking about. I have two boys that are severely Autistic and a daughter that her school got her onto NDIS. you don't know what your talking about. NO the school is Para hills High school. South Australia, and it's people like you that are lying and stealing from everyone. I think you might be a teacher, that is up to the neck in defrauding the government, be very carful, i have spoken to Bill Shorten, i might pass on who you are. Yes i think you might be involved in the stealing and your trying to cover your back side. Oh dear, you said a little too much.@@darmelli954
Wonder how much this little feast is costing us.
NDIS providers and dishonest recipients are roughting the system.
I’ve been disabled for 20+ years. NDIS has not helped even for a minute. When I rang to get help, I got told don’t call us we’ll call you
I'm on a DSP and have found to get any help from NDIS I have to be fully functional to be able to jump through all of the hoops they require you to do but if I was an 11 year old with the slightest case of autisism The gates are open how does this work ?
“Erroneously informed” You have got to be kidding. They are your partners, you need to rein them in.
So clinical. Nice work Senator. Crushing it. Cue cards :x)
Hi Jordon, I'm in Queensland and I was informed by *both* the NDIA and Carers Queensland that I was required to meet with and create a plan before the assigned LAC would submit my paperwork. After spending 6 months going through additional, triggering testing processes and diagnoses with my Health Care team to prepare the application, I was blindsided with all of these additional, confusing and stressful steps. I can forward the automated email that was sent to me by the NDIA if that's helpful.
Same in Victoria. I was advised by NDIS that a Community Connections meeting had to be completed before the LAC then sent off the access request. I could no longer send off the access request by myself
And adding to this. All my documents were ready to submit by the NEAMI NDIS access team and when they reached out to do it they were advised that they were no longer able to do the access for me either so it pushed back my date of access so now I'm in limbo of waiting for the decision because it has been more than 21 days since the plan meeting when the LAC sent off my access paperwork
@@kaydenlee-music3742 if you're concerned about how long it's taking I'd definitely recommend putting in a complaint/feedback to the NDIA. My LAC suggested I do the same and has at least been supportive in my confused, stressed, and constantly questioning state. He has mostly seemed confused and trying to learn about what is the right process too. I think I was his first pre-submission client meeting. Fortunately I was approved a few days ago before needing to complain, though no contact/word from my LAC about my access plan meeting yet. No official documents otger than a quick phone call from the NDIA assessor. All up it took about 2 months (not including the summer break). My fingers are crossed that you'll hear something soon!
@@kaydenlee-music3742 I thought I replied last night though it doesn't look like it saved. Thankfully mine was approved last week, though am still waiting for any official paperwork or date for the planning meeting. From the date of submission (after the LAC interview) it took nearly two months for mine to be approved (including the holiday break). My fingers are crossed that you hear something soon!
These guys are being really sneaky and sleazy, hunched over, not wanting to give anything away. The NDIS needs to be tightened up. It’s no wonder they are keeping mum on it-shit will hit the fan when heaps of disability re ipients wil be kicked off rhe scheme
The NDIS isn’t sustainable - it’s the greatest rort imposed on the Australian taxpayer.
Right but what about the people who have an IQ below 80.. haha I mean there is no jobs for them
Yeah, rort by the service providers... not the participants.
@@whathappenedtoearth6495 by both in some cases
agreed (but I'd argue that the providers rort more in overall monetary value, even if I don't have the statistics to back my claim. @@gerrycooper56
Prove to me that the participants are rorting the tax payer even remotely as much as the providers, and I'll agree with you. Attempting to tarnish the majority of NDIS clients without proof is tantamount to a libel @@gerrycooper56
The community connections meeting isn't just being forced in a handful of WA LAC agencies. It's happening across the board
of course the public aren't aware 🤔
Definition incoherence creep.
Top down delivery of purposefull murky objectives with the pre determined intention to create individual self definition metrics that under the guise of budget reduction, will pressure arbitrage inaccurate, detrimental application of non existant mechanisms or "voluntary" ones with the view to impose restrictions that are budget meeting rather than government obligation of care meeting.
Like "work for the dole".
A legal contradiction of definition in a sentence.
The government seeks to shift its obligation of care away from itself and onto those in need of care and is doung so whilst fracturing its function, and unironically redirecting funds to those who dont need, from those who do.
Nothing new here, but pretty good questioning senator, these people are doing this, they DONT get to pretend they are not.
Susan here. I had a terrible experience with an LAC after I was rejected from the NDIS in the early days of the scheme. The only supports available were Crisis resources, I was given a page of phone numbers and sent on my way. I know this was at the beginning but was handled badly. I am glad to hear that LAC's are offering more than this. I am late watching this video I hope the Foundational Supports will help people who are not eligible to be on the NDIS get the support they need.
the NDIS is a great money spinner for 'service providers'....
Running a small business seems to be the exact opposite of this. Some level of competence and the ability to manage costs without reducing services is just not something you ever see in government. Small business closes when it can't manage it - government has a completely pointless chat about it, which costs a fortune, and nothing changes.
As he is a Green, I can't imagine there are too many things on which Senator Steele-John and I would agree but the first half of this is a remarkable exchange, and I applaud him for it! Whatever one thinks about the NDIS, the response of the Head of the Department and the appalling non-entity of a Minister demonstrates that contempt for the Senate is not solely confined to contempt for Senators on the right. To be totally fair, the NDIS bureauceats in the second half seem to have a much better idea of their obligations to give helpful answers, unlike her Departmental Head and useless Minister.
It has taken me 4mths trying to join ndis because of bureaucracy and that just so i can join a disabled job angecy. I had a letter sent to my address about insufficient information and to call them. I called tham they used my address as a security question, then they proceeded to tell my they are not accepting my address as correct as i haven't sent an invoice with my address. The access form also had the wrong email address that you send your information to and it took them 2 months to inform me of the information problem. I also had to upload my ndis access form to centerlink by the job network agency i was trying ro join, its been 2 mths and im still waiting to hear from centerlink to be able to get a job. Not claiming centerlink payments.
I know a carer who is owed money from NDIS even though she cared for a very sick pt the money ran out SHAME
As a former LAC in NSW we the partnered, had to follow NDIA directions to a T and were and are not permitted or have the authority to deviate from that. I find it utterly unbelievable that a partner would create a separate/different or additional access pathway on its own accord. They simply DO NOT have that authority
ty JSJ
An awefull lot of Femsplaining here
So what are the assumptions that underpin the ndis sustainability framework?
Is this a Comedy Act.
You have got to be kidding Me, surely?
The issue of having to go via LAC for putting in access request was raised at the Every Australian counts forum with Garth O’Brien general manager service design in early November as people were sending in via email then get auto response saying they have to go via LAC. He said you could request access via multiple channels. I asked about applying via email and meeting accessibility needs and he said to put in complaint if not working as it should. He raised ID as an issue for emailed access requests.
From all reports I’ve seen in various fb groups people are all still having to go via LAC and this is causing delays & stress. NDIA also seem not to be taking date of emailed submission as start of 21 day clock. The auto reply email is reportedly still happening. The meeting with LACs reportedly make them go through all the info already documented in access request but summarising it which is a recipe for disaster. It seems this process involves some of the planning for when a person does get access. Rather than doing it with a planner. Seems pretty rough to be put through given you’re pretty likely to be rejected.
Compared to American Senators operating in similar committees Australian bureaucrats treat our Senators with at best indifference and at worst barely concealed contempt.
A person with cancer can't get on it so who can it needs a investigation
I hope those that are rotting the NDIS are kicked off the scheme. The NDIS needs to be looked into.
You can't really kick providers off the scheme. They are not "on" it.
The government didn't bother requiring any qualifications for the vast majority of providers. The government also didn't require that they sign up to any kind of database.
Therefore the government has created the situation where any greedy uneducated person can use vulnerable people to ride the government's overpaid gravy train. This is why abuse of disabled people is rife.
Until the government create a database for all providers, they will not be able to actually ban them from providing supports. This was all deliberate by the government as the NDIS was rolled as a jobs scheme. It had far less to do with helping vulnerable people.
Make them public now
QLD had Local lets Vote on the weekend. October State then Federal ? What I find interesting we have 3 Governments in one state. Not one of the 3 fixed the issues.
made a lot of complaints against abusive providers, NDIS didnt do anything. they said theres a lot of other cases all i can do is wait.
I need NDIS and don't know which private agency to call.
In conparison to previus years before " covid " what % of incressed aplicants to the disability pension has incressed if at all.
The beaurocrats won't throw their employer (the Albenese government) under the bus but the Albenese government will throw them under the bus no problem's,,,,why isn't Bill Shorten answering these questions ❓
Incompetence all round 😂😢
Ndis is unsustainable
The community connections for access is still happening!
Jail public servants who abuse there powers
We need disclosures about how many people have died or sucidal let alone loss of life as a result of the abuse neglect and exploitation of people who have been treated this way… disclose of these Discusting humans they need accountability jail time then they might start to show up and deliver
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“i think” to “Yes” to “what she said”
What a waste..
The NDIS & CLOSING THE GAP are the most miss managing programs in Australia today. Billions are being wasted.
This is silly..
It’s not the NDIS that cannot be sustainable but all those on the dole for more than 2 or more years refusing to get work and the 40 billion on aboriginal affairs with no accountability. Then we have this inept government spending billions over seas and a further 40 million on a add for the tax 3 debacle.
Let’s not mention the mess the Labor government has created with our own defence forces and the increasing wages of politicians year after year.
So to have a go at the NDIS is laughable when this government is allowing the increase of asylum seekers,
More bits arriving and no accountability on their own administration always wants to blame the NDIS.
Yes there are issues and until all providers are registered then all the private people that have come into the system since they list jobs because if COVID has also caused issues.
The NDIS is at the moment the only body that no one needs a certificate etc to start their own business and until there is more accountability by the NDIS body to investigate claims of miss use on both parts, which include participants and providers, then nothing will verve change and we will continue to hear about the blow out.
What about the blow outs of this Labor parties spending which is never bought up or the over paid wages of politicians never talked about because we cannot continue to keep paying politicians wages with the gross increases year after year.
I get fed up with participants that this is service is not sustainable yet the governments never talk about all those people on the dole for wo years a d longer not lifting a finger to out back into society yet so they get slammed for their kiss use of public money buying grog, tattoos, drugs and failing to get a job tear after year. The answer is plain and simple NO!
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When people seek a diagnosis just to get an ndis plan we have a problem.
How did Jacinta Adhern get a job with this mob?
it's your fault Jordan and you know it but you will block me rather than admit it
everyone knows someone ripping off the system!