Hi everybody, I wanted to pin this comment here to clarify some history. At 22:00 I state that Captain Smith had never handled a ship this large before. This is not true as he had taken the Olympic on it's maiden voyage as well. In all my research this somehow got overlooked and it was brought up by some astute viewers. I'm not above admitting mistakes and now we're all the wiser for it. Thanks again to everybody for their continued support.
When Titanic was finished, she was actually considerably heavier than Olympic. Harland and Wolfe and White Star incorporated modifications they'd learned from observing Olympic that were meant to improve Titanic's performance, which also added a good deal of weight. So you weren't technically wrong, Titanic was indeed larger than her older sister, if only in displacement.
Technically, you were correct. While he commanded the Olympic as a captain, he never served as a regular deck officer/crewman. He never served in the lower ranks on a ship that big, only as the commander.
Hi there, first time watching any of your reviews, but I have one "Titanic" complaint (pardon the pun lol). When I click to watch a playlist I do expect to watch episode 1 first NOT 2/2 then 1/2! It doesn't make sense? BTW great review & I have subscribed & will watch other episodes. 👍👍🚢
I would also like to correct you about Titanic and Olympic being technically the same. Titanic has an Enclosed B deck promonade, while on Olympic their B deck promonade were exposed to the elements. The Enclosed B deck promonade in Titanic were converted into more state-rooms.
According to IMDB, the original line in the script was, “Lie on that couch”. Leonardo DiCaprio made an honest mistake when he said, “Over on the bed…the couch.” and James Cameron was so in love with it that he decided to keep the line.
@@ReelHistory you're welcome Prof. Looking forward for more deep dives in movies with historical settings. I love that when you don't insert knowledge about the historical significance of the scene you talk about the history behind the movie itself. Thank you for being very informative!
I absolutely love these videos. I’ve been home with a new baby and I binge these during nap time. Fun Titanic fact: She actually had two grand staircases. The aft staircase only went down to C Deck, and had a similar reception room on B Deck to the one leading to the dining room, which was shown in the movie. The aft one lead to the A La Carte restaurant. The clock on the aft staircase had no carvings on it. The cherub you pulled up is actually most likely from the aft staircase, as it is holding the light in the opposite arm as the one in the photo of the staircase you showed. Interestingly enough, there are no known photos of Titanic’s grand staircase and any one labeled as such was actually taken aboard Olympic (as were many photos of the interior public spaces), as Titanic’s was nearly identical, and White Star didn’t want to spend money on photographing the same thing twice.
The cherub that was recovered was not the main large cherub from either the forward or the aft staircase. Rather, it was a smaller version that adorned one of the railings on a lower deck.
Another is there was no actual filming of the Titanic. The little bit of B&W footage often shown of Captain Smith on board Titanic was filmed after the sinking, and Smith is an actor.
@@grannyannie2948 There is 50 second clip of Titanic being fitted out, but that’s all we know of. The film of Smith that I think you are referring to is of Smith, but he’s on Olympic the previous year. You can tell because he’s wearing his summer whites, and while on Titanic, he still would have been wearing his navy blue winter uniform.
Excited for another video from my favorite fellow Pennsylvanian. Wish I had a professor like you when I was in university, I'm sure I would have enjoyed your class.
Have absolutely fallen in love this channel. Came for the Band of Brothers reviews, stayed for all the other awesome content. Any chance you will review Thirteen Days one day??
New subscriber here, having recently found and very much enjoyed your Band of Brothers series. Seeing this pop up in my feed already made my day 😀, thank you!
My biggest historical gripe in this movie, as someone who grew up in Chippewa Falls, is that Lake Wissota didnt exist in 1912. Its a man made lake, created by the building of a hydroelectric dam on the Chippewa River in 1917.
Fortunately this inaccuracy was reported in newspapers in my country before the release of the film, so I was prepared for it. I found the entire movie so full of historical inaccuracies I couldn't enjoy it. The story was all about people who didn't exist when there were so many interesting people actually on board the ship including illicit romances. I definitely prefer the 1958, A Night To Remember, which was made in conjunction with Titanic survivors.
Fun fact about the officer who allowed Jack and Fabrizio onboard: His name is James Moody. The youngest officer and only junior officer to perish in the sinking. He apparently had turned away a group of, I believe, firemen who were drunk and late for boarding. So, I very much down the real James Moody would have allowed Jack and Fabrizio onboard.
Thank you! It's currently being edited and will be out after titanic, the explanation for everything will be at the beginning of the video, short story....copyright issues.
Thank you! Viewers like you certainly make it easier to sit here and put these together late at night. Hope you enjoy what is to come. Sincerely - Andrew
I hope you're going to include in part 2 the good natured 'spat' between James Cameron and Neil DeGrasse-Tyson. Really enjoy your in-depth analysis (obviously Band of Brothers and Apollo 13) so happy to see your subscriber count go up. Hopefully you have Black Hawk Down and Master & Commander: The Far Side of the World on your list (I appreciate Master & Commander is fiction but so accurately depicts the time during the Napoleonic Wars).
I've read the book, by Patrick O'Brien, upon which 'Master and Commander' was based. The movie took a number of liberties (including that it completely excluded the fact that women were frequently aboard these Royal Navy vessels) and that the antagonists in the book were a different nation (ahem) -- but it was all in service to the plot, and it was an AWESOME movie for sure. :-)
I'm a historian in the South Florida area who has devoted the past 41 years researching the ship and her passengers and crew. Kudos on the presentation! Looking forward to part 2!
The scene following the "flying" scene is Jack and Rose laughing hysterically and stumbling back into Rose's stateroom as if they had been running back. I always imagine that they had probably been run off the bow in the moments after the scene. The scene is my favorite - knowing that most of the shots are entirely real, that they only had 8 minutes to film it, and that it beautifully replicates a painting that was done many years prior to the film depicting how some historians final sunset would have looked amplifies the beauty in my eyes.
You talked about James Cameron's passion for authenticity, one of my first jobs was working at the titanic museum in Branson. I have heard him say the only reason he made those movies was so he could use the studios money to go see the titanic rather then his own money. Since that's what he uses the money for he just so happened to have to make the movie.
DiCaprio proclaiming himself "king of the world" solves a mystery for me. When I was a Cop, I observed a drunk college student (undergrad) climb up on a newspaper vending box, throw out his arms and shout out that same statement. The box fell over and the guy fell to the sidewalk, fortunately uninjured but too drunk to be embarrassed. I stopped my car, and hollered at him for being stupid and drunk in a no stupid drunk zone out of season and without a license. I didn't know the thing was a line from this flick so the guy, while still a dunce, was probably less so than I had thought. I helped him up, brushed him off and after making sure he was OK, shook his hand, cleared and went on my way.
Though not right by the pier, there was a pub not far away called 'The Grapes' where the Slade brothers, who were suppose to crew the Titanic, were drinking and ended up missing the Titanic. Jack's intro may be a reference to this. It's also an interesting touch that Jack claims Fabrizio is American since at the time Italians were really looked down on. During the inquiry many people that said there were stowaways in the lifeboats thought they were 'Italians' Capt Smith captained the Olympic's maiden voyage, so it's not quite true he hadn't handled a ship as large as Titanic before. It is true that there was nearly no experience with big ships at the time in general. The forecastle on Titanic was a no passenger area, so if an officer didn't yell at them a quartermaster, or sailor probably would have. Great video, especially those pamphlets I've never seen them before
I love films inspired by history, but somehow never thought about Titanic in that category until now. It came out when I was a kid, and I only just rewatched it for the 25th Anniversary Release. Blown away. Your videos have really enhanced my appreciation for this film.
First I thought "Titanic? Nah, not interested". Then I watched the review, because nothing else was on. And now I am glad I did. 😀 Really enjoyable and informative. It's also noticeable, that the reviewer actually has a passion for what he does here and it's not just a chore, that is done for viewership and to earn a living. I really appreciate that. Makes it so much more enjoyable than many of the other channels that fabricate similar content.
I love that you used the Indian jones line it belongs in a museum it really does because just imagine all the stories we don’t even know about all the poor people that were on this boat
Consider the Ancient Egyptians, whom for much of history were mysterious and hated by the Christians for being the antagonists in the bible. If we had left their tombs and temples in peace, they would remain in peace, but hated, bizarre and unknowable.
2:25 A crazy thing is that as well as I know the soundtrack for this movie (I not only have it on CD, but I also have a book of piano music from the movie), I only noticed in the last few years that some of the melodies were originally in James Horner’s score for Star Trek 3! EDIT: Unfortunately, I got my James Horner scores confused. It was the “Apollo 13 score” where James Horner first used a tune that also appeared in this score; that tune is the theme at the beginning of “Southampton” & it's also heard during “Take Her to Sea, Mr. Murdoch”. That tune (albeit with a slower tempo) is first heard during the launch in “Apollo 13”. I got confused because it was less than a year ago that I realized that Leonard Rosenman had used part of Bach’s 2nd Brandenberg concerto in his score for Star Trek 4.
@@charlietheanteater3918 Share?! No way, Rose just wanted to party and play with the poors, not have to become one herself! floating doors are for first class passengers only! 🤣👍
i have a good suggestion for a future reel history video . The movie : The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford.... Its one of my favorite films. I think it would be Great if you made a video on it one day, lots of history in that movie.
A lot of artifacts and clues about how people lived and/or died outside of recorded history can be found at burial sites. That makes the question “Where’s the line between archeology and grave robbing” an awkward one
I love your video. Just a few quick notes. (And please believe me, I'm only wishing to inform & educate, not be an a-hole. Ocean Liners are my passion & I have literally dozens of books on the subject) The wreck was discovered in 85, not 86. Another reason for inspecting the third class was any passenger emigrating to the states who was found to be carrying a contagious disease or be mentally deficient was subject to being sent back at the company's expense. The ship the Titanic almost collided with used to be called City of New York but was just called New York at this point. The room at 27:20 was either an error or artistic license on James Cameron's part. While light fare was available it was not the or even a Dining Room. My best guess is the original script called for the Al a Carte restaurant but it was deemed to expensive to film. It was Archibald Gracie, not Bernard. Lawrence Beasley was a school teacher, not a journalist. Passengers from 2nd & 3rd classes were welcomed to go to 1st class on Sunday for the Church of England service. The others were organized by a Priest & a Minister informally for those specifically of their faiths. Can't wait to see your next video!
I'm sure contributing to Colonel Archibald Gracie's condition was the loss of one of his oldest friends, James Clinch Smith. Smith was travelling with Gracie on Titanic and did not survive the sinking.
Most paused moment in the history of VHS is obviously the Phoebe Cates fantasy pool scene from Fast Times at Ridgdmont High. Second place would be Sharon Stone's interrogation scene in Basic Instinct.
I was a Titanic enthusiast long before this movie, but this was the first (and only) time I actually felt that I was really aboard the Titanic and how absolutely tragic the sinking was. It still holds a huge piece of my heart for this reason.
I watched titanic on Netflix recently for the first time in many years and was surprised how much I enjoyed the historical aspect of it, especially knowing that the last survivors died in the last decade…just makes it seem a little more relatable even though it happened over a century.
19:20 Also worth mentioning is that Cameron found out only after the film was made that there was a real J. Dawson aboard the Titanic! (“J” for “Joseph”, and he was either one of the stewards or stokers.) Since the film’s release, random people have been heaping flowers over his tombstone in Halifax!
Love your Higgins boat tee! I think the 'fake smoke' technique used to depict underwater scenery in 'Titanic' was also used in 'The Hunt for Red October.' First half of the movie? Love story and human interest story. Second half? Outstanding disaster flick! I'm a retired Navy officer (Mustang; I started out as an enlisted Hospital Corpsman serving with the Marine Corps). I always tell anyone that the undersea world can kill you in a trice and the blink of an eye, that's how dangerous it can be to operate in the ocean depths. Outer space? Pfffft! It's big and it's empty, and while vacuum can do you in, it's nothing compared to what can happen -- and how quickly it can take place -- even when you're only at relatively shallow depths on the bounding main.
The engine room scenes were filmed in the USS Jeremiah O'Brien. It's a liberty class ship. It's docked in San Francisco and is now a museum that you can tour. It is still fully functional & was also the only large vessel used in the D-day landings that made the return trip for the 50th anniversary celebration. Fun fact, it's sitting right next to it, is the USS Pampanito, a Balao class submarine that was the USS Stingray in the movie Down Periscope.
I'm a big fan of Tom Selleck's Jesse Stone TV movies, filmed in and around the Halifax-Lunenburg areas, standing in for Boston, MA. Greetings from Birmingham, England.
@@WhatGamesAreSaying - then you have a treat in store. They are detective stories based on the novels of the late Robert B. Parker, made in a 'film noir' style. 8 were made for CBS Movies, and when they got out of the TV Movie business, Selleck got a contract to make two more for Hallmark, who regularly show the series on their channel, of which one remains to be filmed when selleck has a story idea and gets the band back together. 'Stone Cold' was made first as a stand alone movie before CBS asked for more, because of good ratings, so 'Jesse Stone: Night Passage' was made as a prequel based on book 1. Make sure you seek that one out first. Cheers!
Gloria Stewart met Boris Karloff in the movie The Old Dark House, the funny thing about that is that Titanic give the movie a push since a lot of people wanted to se Gloria Stewart when she was young and The Old Dark House was rediscovered, giving an oustanding 92% critic in rotten tomatoes
22:00 Captain Smith actually took command of the Olympic on her maiden voyage which was not noticeably smaller than the titanic (only a few inches and 1000 tonnes lighter)
How far away was the pub where some crew members had been drinking for too long / had actually gotten to the ship too late (and was refused access) TO the Southampton pier? (At least according to the mid-1990s Titanic documentary "Death of a Dream)?
There are still some artifacts that need to be found. Where is Captain Smith's Journal? Where are the paintings? Where is that painting covered in crystals?
That really was a deep dive, I was surprised by the number of factoids you managed to unearth from this movie. I didn't know that the casting couch in Hollywood was used by James Cameron for his sketching! That blew my mind. My only note is that for us Brits you just need to switch emphasis from the second vowel to the first, so for British actors "Bernarrrrd" Hill and "Bernarrrrd" Fox, it sounds like "BERNerd". My favourite story about Kate Winslet is from a UK documentary programme about the inner workings of London Heathrow airport. Permanent fixtures of the international Arrivals halls are two members of the infamous Fleet Street newspaper paparazzi, who have the unenviable job of photographing every celebrity type that passes through the airport. When asked who their favourite celeb was, they both didn't hestitate to say "Kate Winslet". Why? Because she always stopped to say "hello boys, how are you?", lets them get their pictures, and then says "cheerio, see you next time, boys!" That... is a First Class passenger.
I think i read that the filming of the triple expansion engine was filmed aboard the SS Jeremiah O’Brien Liberty Ship in San Francisco then supplemented with CGI to make for a much larger engine room. Totally unrelated to that I worked in the UK in the mid-80s shortly after the wreck was discovered. I lived in Godalming Surrey and the church there had a small area of the garden with an alcove dedicated to Jack Phillips-one of the radio operators on the Titanic. It was near his hometown I believe
I was about to mention the O’Brien. Been on that ship a few times and have seen the engines running. Even though smaller than the Titanic’s triple expansion engine, it’s still surprising how large it is, and is an amazing piece of engineering. As a historical reenactor I highly recommend checking the O’Brien out if you’re in San Fran.
From IMDB: "Some of the pre-capsize sequences were shot aboard the Queen Mary, including the opening storm sequence, the pre-disaster scenes in the staterooms and hallways, the scenes above decks, and an early scene in the engine room." The burden of proof is on you at this point. @@joefera8947
What a fantastic first part to this movie. Eric Braden casting as John Jacob Astor might be near perfect. He just put on a 1912 tuxedo and there he was. I believe it was this movie or at least when Robert Ballard found the wreckage that most of us realized the ship broke apart. The story that she remained intact as it sank was around for years.
Actually there is a pub called the Platform Tavern it has been there since 1873 and was coincedentally where they shot the Pub scene for the movie near the dock at Southhampton it still exists today and back in 1912 it was popular amongst sailors and was seen as a working class pub.
Would love to see you react to the 1969 film "Battle of Britain" the planes in the film are mostly real and the Germans speak German. Would love to know your thoughts! And I don't think I've seen anyone cover it before, definitely needs more love!
In high school my best friend and I took our girlfriends to see Titanic...the night before we were going on a Carnival Cruise. Yep, can't make that up. Suffice to say we paid extra attention to the emergency procedures. Fun Fact: Claire Danes actually got the role of Rose but turned it down, she had just done Romeo and Juliet with Leo and wanted some variety.
22:00 If the Titanic had been damaged at the start of the voyage, requiring repairs, it is possible that the Titanic would be as famous as it is today. Considering the ship wouldn't go down with major loss of life, therefor you don't equip ships with enough boats for everyone on board and you don't have an ice patrol.
Great video. A couple of nitpicks because this is the internet. There are no primary sources to indicate that Capt. Smith was going to retire after this voyage. It's something that was probably made up after the sinking to add to the intrigue and enhance the story. The other little nitpick is about the cherub. The little cherub recovered and put on display is believed to be one of the smaller putti cherubs most likely from "C" deck. The large one from the grand staircase has never been seen or recovered, although I believe the base was recovered.
The Ismay family home Dawpool was about 3 miles from my house on the Wirral. Sadly its long since gone. I believe he had already moved out a few years before titanic sunk though
@@ReelHistory true, we still have a few on the Wirral, but not many. Dawpool wasn't even that old, it was only built in 1886 and demolished in 1927. It was so big that one of its fireplaces was relocated to a village called Portmerion and used as the facade of an entire building!
I love this channel. Weird O consonant and all. Hypothetical: If titanic had missed the iceberg it would have been torpedoed by german U boats in WWI because its just too big a target to miss.
The movie The Impossible is worth a look. It’s a disaster movie based on true story and I’ve never enjoyed one more. One of my all time favorite movies.
Hi everybody, I wanted to pin this comment here to clarify some history. At 22:00 I state that Captain Smith had never handled a ship this large before. This is not true as he had taken the Olympic on it's maiden voyage as well. In all my research this somehow got overlooked and it was brought up by some astute viewers. I'm not above admitting mistakes and now we're all the wiser for it. Thanks again to everybody for their continued support.
When Titanic was finished, she was actually considerably heavier than Olympic. Harland and Wolfe and White Star incorporated modifications they'd learned from observing Olympic that were meant to improve Titanic's performance, which also added a good deal of weight. So you weren't technically wrong, Titanic was indeed larger than her older sister, if only in displacement.
@@cleverusername9369, thanks for the clarification!
Technically, you were correct. While he commanded the Olympic as a captain, he never served as a regular deck officer/crewman. He never served in the lower ranks on a ship that big, only as the commander.
Hi there, first time watching any of your reviews, but I have one "Titanic" complaint (pardon the pun lol). When I click to watch a playlist I do expect to watch episode 1 first NOT 2/2 then 1/2! It doesn't make sense? BTW great review & I have subscribed & will watch other episodes. 👍👍🚢
I would also like to correct you about Titanic and Olympic being technically the same. Titanic has an Enclosed B deck promonade, while on Olympic their B deck promonade were exposed to the elements. The Enclosed B deck promonade in Titanic were converted into more state-rooms.
According to IMDB, the original line in the script was, “Lie on that couch”. Leonardo DiCaprio made an honest mistake when he said, “Over on the bed…the couch.” and James Cameron was so in love with it that he decided to keep the line.
But Kate Winslet has said in an interview that she flashed Dicaprio prior to this scene because she wanted the scene to be then a little more relaxed.
@Ks so, that was just little bit of trivia for you.
11:03 - 11:05 The way he goes "OK, so she's a very OOOOOOLLD god damn liar!" never fails to crack me up. 😂 🤣 😂 🤣
I love Bill Paxton as an actor, so many iconic roles. Rip Bill, game over man, game over
I love the variety that you bring to these deep dives! Thank you professor for providing a variety for the movies that you analyzed.
Thanks for tuning in!
@@ReelHistory you're welcome Prof. Looking forward for more deep dives in movies with historical settings. I love that when you don't insert knowledge about the historical significance of the scene you talk about the history behind the movie itself. Thank you for being very informative!
I absolutely love these videos. I’ve been home with a new baby and I binge these during nap time.
Fun Titanic fact: She actually had two grand staircases. The aft staircase only went down to C Deck, and had a similar reception room on B Deck to the one leading to the dining room, which was shown in the movie. The aft one lead to the A La Carte restaurant. The clock on the aft staircase had no carvings on it. The cherub you pulled up is actually most likely from the aft staircase, as it is holding the light in the opposite arm as the one in the photo of the staircase you showed. Interestingly enough, there are no known photos of Titanic’s grand staircase and any one labeled as such was actually taken aboard Olympic (as were many photos of the interior public spaces), as Titanic’s was nearly identical, and White Star didn’t want to spend money on photographing the same thing twice.
Thanks for the input. We hope our historical lullabies serve you and your baby well.
The cherub that was recovered was not the main large cherub from either the forward or the aft staircase. Rather, it was a smaller version that adorned one of the railings on a lower deck.
Another is there was no actual filming of the Titanic. The little bit of B&W footage often shown of Captain Smith on board Titanic was filmed after the sinking, and Smith is an actor.
@@grannyannie2948 There is 50 second clip of Titanic being fitted out, but that’s all we know of. The film of Smith that I think you are referring to is of Smith, but he’s on Olympic the previous year. You can tell because he’s wearing his summer whites, and while on Titanic, he still would have been wearing his navy blue winter uniform.
@@BillBaronas Thankyou, that sounds right. Apparently after the sinking cinemas scrambled for something they could show in newsreels.
Happy to have found your channel. Keep up the great work 👍
Excited for another video from my favorite fellow Pennsylvanian. Wish I had a professor like you when I was in university, I'm sure I would have enjoyed your class.
I try my best to keep things lively!
Pennsylvania? Did we just become best friends?
@@chauser400 lol
Have absolutely fallen in love this channel. Came for the Band of Brothers reviews, stayed for all the other awesome content.
Any chance you will review Thirteen Days one day??
Well thank you very much! It is absolutely on our list. We are simply focused on quality over quantity so it may be a while.
@@ReelHistory awesome to hear. Definitely quality over quantity. I’ll wait years…. I’m sure I’ll enjoy every video you release.
@@IceyBox, Jared saw Thirteen Days in theaters when he was 12! It is definitely on our list.
New subscriber here, having recently found and very much enjoyed your Band of Brothers series. Seeing this pop up in my feed already made my day 😀, thank you!
You're welcome!
King Theoden: "Where was Gondor when the Titanic fell?"
My biggest historical gripe in this movie, as someone who grew up in Chippewa Falls, is that Lake Wissota didnt exist in 1912. Its a man made lake, created by the building of a hydroelectric dam on the Chippewa River in 1917.
Fortunately this inaccuracy was reported in newspapers in my country before the release of the film, so I was prepared for it. I found the entire movie so full of historical inaccuracies I couldn't enjoy it. The story was all about people who didn't exist when there were so many interesting people actually on board the ship including illicit romances. I definitely prefer the 1958, A Night To Remember, which was made in conjunction with Titanic survivors.
22:00 Captain Smith was the first to command the Olympic. He had the most experience in the world when it came to ships of that size.
Fun fact about the officer who allowed Jack and Fabrizio onboard: His name is James Moody. The youngest officer and only junior officer to perish in the sinking. He apparently had turned away a group of, I believe, firemen who were drunk and late for boarding. So, I very much down the real James Moody would have allowed Jack and Fabrizio onboard.
Wow this 55 minutes flew by much quicker than when watching the actual movie! 😄 Can't wait for part 2! 👍
These videos are amazing. Thank you so much. I’m hooked.
Thank you! It's currently being edited and will be out after titanic, the explanation for everything will be at the beginning of the video, short story....copyright issues.
@@ReelHistory thank you for the reply. I spotted that you answered it below. I can’t wait to see it. Going to order your Winters book this weekend.
That's great! Let us know what you think by leaving a review
Finally! I'm glad you're starting to get more views and subs. Really enjoyed your break-down of Band of Brothers.
Thank you! Viewers like you certainly make it easier to sit here and put these together late at night. Hope you enjoy what is to come. Sincerely - Andrew
I hope you're going to include in part 2 the good natured 'spat' between James Cameron and Neil DeGrasse-Tyson.
Really enjoy your in-depth analysis (obviously Band of Brothers and Apollo 13) so happy to see your subscriber count go up. Hopefully you have Black Hawk Down and Master & Commander: The Far Side of the World on your list (I appreciate Master & Commander is fiction but so accurately depicts the time during the Napoleonic Wars).
I believe your wish will be granted. Thanks for the kind words.
@@ReelHistory No, thank you sir.
I've read the book, by Patrick O'Brien, upon which 'Master and Commander' was based. The movie took a number of liberties (including that it completely excluded the fact that women were frequently aboard these Royal Navy vessels) and that the antagonists in the book were a different nation (ahem) -- but it was all in service to the plot, and it was an AWESOME movie for sure. :-)
@@tonyguerra1273 The lesser of two weevils.
Love your content very informative.
Keeping with the nautical theme. Would love to see your broadside on “Master and Commander the far side of the world”
I'm a historian in the South Florida area who has devoted the past 41 years researching the ship and her passengers and crew. Kudos on the presentation! Looking forward to part 2!
I don’t know why I doubted my level of interest for a Titanic review. Another great video by you. Thank you.
Great work!
Very engaging video with some interesting historical tidbits. Thank you for the content.
The scene following the "flying" scene is Jack and Rose laughing hysterically and stumbling back into Rose's stateroom as if they had been running back. I always imagine that they had probably been run off the bow in the moments after the scene. The scene is my favorite - knowing that most of the shots are entirely real, that they only had 8 minutes to film it, and that it beautifully replicates a painting that was done many years prior to the film depicting how some historians final sunset would have looked amplifies the beauty in my eyes.
A correction: The wreck was found in 1985, not 1986.
You talked about James Cameron's passion for authenticity, one of my first jobs was working at the titanic museum in Branson. I have heard him say the only reason he made those movies was so he could use the studios money to go see the titanic rather then his own money. Since that's what he uses the money for he just so happened to have to make the movie.
Interesting, I suppose it's possible to have that viewpoint and still try to get things right.
DiCaprio proclaiming himself "king of the world" solves a mystery for me. When I was a Cop, I observed a drunk college student (undergrad) climb up on a newspaper vending box, throw out his arms and shout out that same statement. The box fell over and the guy fell to the sidewalk, fortunately uninjured but too drunk to be embarrassed. I stopped my car, and hollered at him for being stupid and drunk in a no stupid drunk zone out of season and without a license. I didn't know the thing was a line from this flick so the guy, while still a dunce, was probably less so than I had thought. I helped him up, brushed him off and after making sure he was OK, shook his hand, cleared and went on my way.
Oh man I love these stories you guys give us
Though not right by the pier, there was a pub not far away called 'The Grapes' where the Slade brothers, who were suppose to crew the Titanic, were drinking and ended up missing the Titanic. Jack's intro may be a reference to this.
It's also an interesting touch that Jack claims Fabrizio is American since at the time Italians were really looked down on. During the inquiry many people that said there were stowaways in the lifeboats thought they were 'Italians'
Capt Smith captained the Olympic's maiden voyage, so it's not quite true he hadn't handled a ship as large as Titanic before. It is true that there was nearly no experience with big ships at the time in general.
The forecastle on Titanic was a no passenger area, so if an officer didn't yell at them a quartermaster, or sailor probably would have.
Great video, especially those pamphlets I've never seen them before
I love that shirt. My great uncle was a master boat builder who worked at Higgins Industries during WWII.
I love films inspired by history, but somehow never thought about Titanic in that category until now.
It came out when I was a kid, and I only just rewatched it for the 25th Anniversary Release.
Blown away. Your videos have really enhanced my appreciation for this film.
Thank you!
First I thought "Titanic? Nah, not interested". Then I watched the review, because nothing else was on. And now I am glad I did. 😀
Really enjoyable and informative. It's also noticeable, that the reviewer actually has a passion for what he does here and it's not just a chore, that is done for viewership and to earn a living. I really appreciate that. Makes it so much more enjoyable than many of the other channels that fabricate similar content.
I love that you used the Indian jones line it belongs in a museum it really does because just imagine all the stories we don’t even know about all the poor people that were on this boat
Consider the Ancient Egyptians, whom for much of history were mysterious and hated by the Christians for being the antagonists in the bible. If we had left their tombs and temples in peace, they would remain in peace, but hated, bizarre and unknowable.
2:25 A crazy thing is that as well as I know the soundtrack for this movie (I not only have it on CD, but I also have a book of piano music from the movie), I only noticed in the last few years that some of the melodies were originally in James Horner’s score for Star Trek 3!
EDIT: Unfortunately, I got my James Horner scores confused. It was the “Apollo 13 score” where James Horner first used a tune that also appeared in this score; that tune is the theme at the beginning of “Southampton” & it's also heard during “Take Her to Sea, Mr. Murdoch”. That tune (albeit with a slower tempo) is first heard during the launch in “Apollo 13”.
I got confused because it was less than a year ago that I realized that Leonard Rosenman had used part of Bach’s 2nd Brandenberg concerto in his score for Star Trek 4.
Interesting, I suppose he has a certain style
Another really interesting and fun video. Thanks!
Without watching im going to say historically that door could've easily floated atleast 2-3 people 🤣 okay time to watch now 👍
Oh boy are you in for a treat in part 2
Agreed! Haha
. Is chip put things back where they belong
To hell with that, they could have just taken turns even if their wasn’t any room.
@@charlietheanteater3918 Share?! No way, Rose just wanted to party and play with the poors, not have to become one herself! floating doors are for first class passengers only! 🤣👍
i have a good suggestion for a future reel history video . The movie : The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford.... Its one of my favorite films. I think it would be Great if you made a video on it one day, lots of history in that movie.
Great video. I'm glad I found your channel! Is that a Western PA accent I hear?
Spot on!
A lot of artifacts and clues about how people lived and/or died outside of recorded history can be found at burial sites. That makes the question “Where’s the line between archeology and grave robbing” an awkward one
I love your video. Just a few quick notes. (And please believe me, I'm only wishing to inform & educate, not be an a-hole. Ocean Liners are my passion & I have literally dozens of books on the subject) The wreck was discovered in 85, not 86. Another reason for inspecting the third class was any passenger emigrating to the states who was found to be carrying a contagious disease or be mentally deficient was subject to being sent back at the company's expense. The ship the Titanic almost collided with used to be called City of New York but was just called New York at this point. The room at 27:20 was either an error or artistic license on James Cameron's part. While light fare was available it was not the or even a Dining Room. My best guess is the original script called for the Al a Carte restaurant but it was deemed to expensive to film. It was Archibald Gracie, not Bernard. Lawrence Beasley was a school teacher, not a journalist. Passengers from 2nd & 3rd classes were welcomed to go to 1st class on Sunday for the Church of England service. The others were organized by a Priest & a Minister informally for those specifically of their faiths. Can't wait to see your next video!
I'm sure contributing to Colonel Archibald Gracie's condition was the loss of one of his oldest friends, James Clinch Smith. Smith was travelling with Gracie on Titanic and did not survive the sinking.
Thanks for a fascinating video! Looking forward very much to part 2.
If you're open to requests, I'd love to see you covering Glory some time.
We have a special guest host lined up for a forthcoming episode for Glory!
@@ReelHistory Great stuff, I'll look forward eagerly to that! :)
Most paused moment in the history of VHS is obviously the Phoebe Cates fantasy pool scene from Fast Times at Ridgdmont High.
Second place would be Sharon Stone's interrogation scene in Basic Instinct.
I was a Titanic enthusiast long before this movie, but this was the first (and only) time I actually felt that I was really aboard the Titanic and how absolutely tragic the sinking was. It still holds a huge piece of my heart for this reason.
Thanks for tuning in!
I watched titanic on Netflix recently for the first time in many years and was surprised how much I enjoyed the historical aspect of it, especially knowing that the last survivors died in the last decade…just makes it seem a little more relatable even though it happened over a century.
19:20 Also worth mentioning is that Cameron found out only after the film was made that there was a real J. Dawson aboard the Titanic! (“J” for “Joseph”, and he was either one of the stewards or stokers.) Since the film’s release, random people have been heaping flowers over his tombstone in Halifax!
Well done my friend. New subscriber!!!
"The most paused moment in the history of VHS tapes"
I laughed so hard. And I know very why i did so.
Love your Higgins boat tee! I think the 'fake smoke' technique used to depict underwater scenery in 'Titanic' was also used in 'The Hunt for Red October.' First half of the movie? Love story and human interest story. Second half? Outstanding disaster flick! I'm a retired Navy officer (Mustang; I started out as an enlisted Hospital Corpsman serving with the Marine Corps). I always tell anyone that the undersea world can kill you in a trice and the blink of an eye, that's how dangerous it can be to operate in the ocean depths. Outer space? Pfffft! It's big and it's empty, and while vacuum can do you in, it's nothing compared to what can happen -- and how quickly it can take place -- even when you're only at relatively shallow depths on the bounding main.
The tee is from the National WWII Museum. It is the only maritime-themed shirt Jared had!
Thank you for saying Ballard HELPED find the Titanic -- so often it sounds like he found it all by himself.
The engine room scenes were filmed in the USS Jeremiah O'Brien. It's a liberty class ship. It's docked in San Francisco and is now a museum that you can tour. It is still fully functional & was also the only large vessel used in the D-day landings that made the return trip for the 50th anniversary celebration. Fun fact, it's sitting right next to it, is the USS Pampanito, a Balao class submarine that was the USS Stingray in the movie Down Periscope.
Very cool!
Nice to hear my hometown of Halifax get a mention!
I'm a big fan of Tom Selleck's Jesse Stone TV movies, filmed in and around the Halifax-Lunenburg areas, standing in for Boston, MA. Greetings from Birmingham, England.
@@davemac1197 I’d never heard of those but if I saw them I’m sure there would be something recognizable to me! I’ll have to look it up
@@WhatGamesAreSaying - then you have a treat in store. They are detective stories based on the novels of the late Robert B. Parker, made in a 'film noir' style. 8 were made for CBS Movies, and when they got out of the TV Movie business, Selleck got a contract to make two more for Hallmark, who regularly show the series on their channel, of which one remains to be filmed when selleck has a story idea and gets the band back together. 'Stone Cold' was made first as a stand alone movie before CBS asked for more, because of good ratings, so 'Jesse Stone: Night Passage' was made as a prequel based on book 1. Make sure you seek that one out first. Cheers!
I don't know why but I'd love a History Professor Crashes Into Pearl Harbor episode
Gloria Stewart met Boris Karloff in the movie The Old Dark House, the funny thing about that is that Titanic give the movie a push since a lot of people wanted to se Gloria Stewart when she was young and The Old Dark House was rediscovered, giving an oustanding 92% critic in rotten tomatoes
It would be really cool if you did "a night to remember" its seen as the more history focused titanic film
Absolutely. A great docudrama from the 1950s!
22:00 Captain Smith actually took command of the Olympic on her maiden voyage which was not noticeably smaller than the titanic (only a few inches and 1000 tonnes lighter)
I stopped watching after he said that..
Captain Smith had captained the Olympic, the Titanic's sister ship and of equal size, in 1911 so he was used to big ships of this size.
You should do “A Young Doctors Notebook”
It is sad Bill Paxton no longer with us. He was a great actor.
How far away was the pub where some crew members had been drinking for too long / had actually gotten to the ship too late (and was refused access) TO the Southampton pier? (At least according to the mid-1990s Titanic documentary "Death of a Dream)?
Pubs were outside the gate, which was considerable distance from where Titanic set sail.
@@ReelHistory Lucky for them then, eh?
There are still some artifacts that need to be found. Where is Captain Smith's Journal? Where are the paintings? Where is that painting covered in crystals?
should do a video on pearl harbor now that you've mentioned it :)
Expect a Pearl Harbor-themed segment this December for the 80th anniversary.
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Holy Moly. 😳 _”Turn that up, deary…”_
I’ll turn it up for you, grandma!
31:31 Green lighted or green lit?
I'd love to see your take on both The Alamo from 2004 and Midway from 2019.
O boy ....Midway. We have big plans for than one
@@ReelHistory I can't wait.
@@ReelHistory Also, when are you gonna review it?
54:16 ripped my skin off to that pause screen as a young boy.
1st!
Welcome back!!!
Truth about titanic is absolutely one hell of a ride, was stressed out while reading it.
That really was a deep dive, I was surprised by the number of factoids you managed to unearth from this movie. I didn't know that the casting couch in Hollywood was used by James Cameron for his sketching! That blew my mind.
My only note is that for us Brits you just need to switch emphasis from the second vowel to the first, so for British actors "Bernarrrrd" Hill and "Bernarrrrd" Fox, it sounds like "BERNerd".
My favourite story about Kate Winslet is from a UK documentary programme about the inner workings of London Heathrow airport. Permanent fixtures of the international Arrivals halls are two members of the infamous Fleet Street newspaper paparazzi, who have the unenviable job of photographing every celebrity type that passes through the airport. When asked who their favourite celeb was, they both didn't hestitate to say "Kate Winslet". Why? Because she always stopped to say "hello boys, how are you?", lets them get their pictures, and then says "cheerio, see you next time, boys!" That... is a First Class passenger.
Thanks for keeping us in line, mate! We always appreciate your input and wise commentary.
I think i read that the filming of the triple expansion engine was filmed aboard the SS Jeremiah O’Brien Liberty Ship in San Francisco then supplemented with CGI to make for a much larger engine room.
Totally unrelated to that I worked in the UK in the mid-80s shortly after the wreck was discovered. I lived in Godalming Surrey and the church there had a small area of the garden with an alcove dedicated to Jack Phillips-one of the radio operators on the Titanic. It was near his hometown I believe
Very cool!
I was about to mention the O’Brien. Been on that ship a few times and have seen the engines running. Even though smaller than the Titanic’s triple expansion engine, it’s still surprising how large it is, and is an amazing piece of engineering. As a historical reenactor I highly recommend checking the O’Brien out if you’re in San Fran.
FYI, the engine room scenes that weren't filmed in the studio were filmed on the Queen Mary.
Nope. It was another ship.
From IMDB: "Some of the pre-capsize sequences were shot aboard the Queen Mary, including the opening storm sequence, the pre-disaster scenes in the staterooms and hallways, the scenes above decks, and an early scene in the engine room." The burden of proof is on you at this point. @@joefera8947
Lynch and Marschall also did a great commentary on A Night To Remember that should be mentioned.
We will have to check that out!
What a fantastic first part to this movie. Eric Braden casting as John Jacob Astor might be near perfect. He just put on a 1912 tuxedo and there he was. I believe it was this movie or at least when Robert Ballard found the wreckage that most of us realized the ship broke apart. The story that she remained intact as it sank was around for years.
As Victor would say, "Well I'll be damned."
If I recall, tickets were named to passengers and you wouldn’t be able to win tickets like in the movie.
Actually there is a pub called the Platform Tavern it has been there since 1873 and was coincedentally where they shot the Pub scene for the movie near the dock at Southhampton it still exists today and back in 1912 it was popular amongst sailors and was seen as a working class pub.
Thanks for sharing!
30:10 There were 3 confirmed surviving K9's from the Titanic. Two Pomeranians and a Pekingese according to AKC.
Well that's uplifting
You should do HBO The Pacific
Hang tough
Ooooo I hope you touch on what The Carpathia did
Would love to see you react to the 1969 film "Battle of Britain" the planes in the film are mostly real and the Germans speak German. Would love to know your thoughts! And I don't think I've seen anyone cover it before, definitely needs more love!
Stellar aerial sequences in that. Definitely worth an examination for us in the future.
As someone who loves history so much I would love to be in your class
I’m going to need you to do Zulu and Zulu Dawn.
RIP Bill Paxton one of my fave actors of all time..of course Titanic but especially Aliens for me,he was awesome
One of only two actors to be killed by a Terminator, a Predator, and an Alien!
In high school my best friend and I took our girlfriends to see Titanic...the night before we were going on a Carnival Cruise. Yep, can't make that up. Suffice to say we paid extra attention to the emergency procedures.
Fun Fact: Claire Danes actually got the role of Rose but turned it down, she had just done Romeo and Juliet with Leo and wanted some variety.
Wished my history class were like this back in the days...
Still waiting on we were soldiers
It's on the list. We promise!
Astor’s net worth would equate to about 2.4 billion today
I’ve been to the Titanic museum in Branson. It has a lot of interesting items on display
It's on our bucket list of places to visit!
It is really fantastic! Way better than I thought it was going to be when I went.
22:00 If the Titanic had been damaged at the start of the voyage, requiring repairs, it is possible that the Titanic would be as famous as it is today. Considering the ship wouldn't go down with major loss of life, therefor you don't equip ships with enough boats for everyone on board and you don't have an ice patrol.
Him finding Rose down there is a big plot hole and is not believable. He would not have found her.
Actually, the "head" of the White Star Line (as in the actual OWNER) was none other than J. P. Morgan. Ismay was listed as its president, I believe.
Actually no passengers were allowed on The Forecastle, or in any of the crew areas of the Titanic foward of the open bow area of C deck.
Great video. A couple of nitpicks because this is the internet. There are no primary sources to indicate that Capt. Smith was going to retire after this voyage. It's something that was probably made up after the sinking to add to the intrigue and enhance the story. The other little nitpick is about the cherub. The little cherub recovered and put on display is believed to be one of the smaller putti cherubs most likely from "C" deck. The large one from the grand staircase has never been seen or recovered, although I believe the base was recovered.
The most paused moment on VHS 😂 so so true ( . Y . )
Wow! Ya, that Sure is “Victor” . I never made that connection
The SET was everything. All else had to be there for a movie. A night to remember is a better Titanic movie.
The Ismay family home Dawpool was about 3 miles from my house on the Wirral. Sadly its long since gone. I believe he had already moved out a few years before titanic sunk though
As is the case for many Gilded Age mansions in the US and UK. :-(
@@ReelHistory true, we still have a few on the Wirral, but not many. Dawpool wasn't even that old, it was only built in 1886 and demolished in 1927. It was so big that one of its fireplaces was relocated to a village called Portmerion and used as the facade of an entire building!
It was living with my brother Terry for so many years that taught me that a woman's heart is an ocean of secrets.
The dolphins jumping in front of the vessel actually happened and they decided to leave them in the movie.
I love this channel. Weird O consonant and all. Hypothetical: If titanic had missed the iceberg it would have been torpedoed by german U boats in WWI because its just too big a target to miss.
We call it the Pennsyltucky Twang. ;-)
The movie The Impossible is worth a look. It’s a disaster movie based on true story and I’ve never enjoyed one more. One of my all time favorite movies.
Great suggestion. Delving into some more contemporary history would be good for our channel.