Sir, the Scopema PDF clearly says that the larger screws are for the spacer to get bolted to the seat. The smaller screws are to attach the swivel to the 'avant'.
Hi Brynn, Thank you for commenting. You are correct. The larger screws would normally be used to attach the seat and the spacer. However, we did not use the spacer....we actually modified the bottom of the seat to fit without it. Without the spacer, the long screws were too long....so we switched them. Hope that makes sense. :)
Hi, just about to hit the buy on the Scopema swivels. I read that you had to do something with the emergency brake on the drivers side... did you have to do that? I have a 2018 Ram Promaster 2500 high roof 159.
Hi Jong, We did not do anything with the emergency brake on our 2019 Promaster. The only modification we made was to cut off the metal tab under the seats. This allowed us to install the Scopema Swivels without using the spacer bars. This saved us about 1/2 inch of height on the finished seat. It's a very easy modification.
Hi! I see some comments about parking brake modification below, but are you able to swivel the driver's side with the brake in the "up/parked" position?
With factory spacer height: 1.2” = 19/16” Without factory spacer height: 7/8” = 14/16” The difference between with and without the factory spacer is: 19/16 - 14/16 = 5/16” You also added washers for stability which added 2/16” to your height. So if my math is correct, by removing the factory spacer and chopping seatbelts components, which arguably removes safety and security of the seat. You only saved 3/16 of an inch.
I recall it being about 1/2 of an inch, so you are about right. Up to you whether or not it is worth it. We rented a van in Scotland and the drivers seat was too high....pretty miserable. So we felt any height savings was worth the effort.
Sooooo....you eliminated the spacer and used the washers in place saving you 1/8 inch in height. Maybe the spacers and less hassle would be best. Also, that hook cut off on the bottom of the seat belt anchor is there for safety code specs.
It was definitely more than 1/8 of an inch.......but I dont remember exactly how much. AS far as that little metal piece.....heck if I know. I rotated the seat and moved everything I could and couldn't find what it did.
Love your video!!! I am starting my van build and have watched all your video.. just got my swivel seat today and debating if I should modify to reduce the height or not.. it seems like the added washers is about 1/8” only saving 3/8” without the spacer.. do u think if it worth to do the modification? Does your seat come with the 6 way adjustable? Mine is 6 way adjustable… can’t wait to see your electrical and plumbing video out
Jeff, My apologies for the late response. We have been in NJ the last 2 weeks handling some family matters after my parents passing. But thank you for the question. I would personally make any modification that is needed to reduce the seat height. We were recently in Scotland in a van rental...and the swivel seats had me staring into the visor. I HATED it.....and I am only 5'7". The mod for the Scopema seats is quite straight forward. Not sure for the others.....
@@marctania2349 I am sorry for your loss. I installed it with the spacer. It turned out not so bad. Thanks for reponses. Wish everything will be fine for you and waiting for your next video.
Hi Dylan, Tania is actually comfortable driving the van....and she's 5'3". It did help that we used the Scopemas.....as they are supposed to have least height increase. Also, we made a modification (as in the video) that allowed us to ditch the spacer bars. But the swivels work great...we would highly recommend them.
@@marctania2349 Thanks for replying! I guess my issue is more on the other front. I'm 6'1" and am worried that it will make it hard to see out the front windshield while driving
@@dylancunningham8769 Ahh....Gotcha. I have heard of taller people who ended up right at the visor after lifting the seats. We are in NJ right now visiting family....but, when we get back, we'll have our 6' next door neighbor sit in it and get his input. The Scopemas, without the spacer, did not raise it by much.
after deciding that my passenger seat was to high, I removed the spacers and was about to cut that flange, but it looks like the flange was designed to secure the seat belt in case of an accident. Not so sure if it should be cut. Any thoughts???
Hi Karl, I looked at them today. I can't really see how they would fit if we turned them over. But you certainly may be right. They work great, though.
@@perrellapartyof5 I installed the passenger side with the release mechanism facing up and when I swivel the seat, the mechanism scrapes against a metal rod that extends across the front of the seat base. If installed correctly, release mechanism faces down and is located between the seats. Everything works smoothly
You are correct! I installed the passenger side with the release mechanism up and when I swivel the seat, the mechanism scrapes against a metal piece across the front of the seat base. If installed correctly, release mechanism faces down and is located between the seats, I don't have that problem.
You are correct. But they still work fine. We did reach out to the company to ensure it didn't violate any safety issue just to be safe. We may one day redo them right side up
Your videos are great and I exercise on my recumbent stationary bike while I watch my RUclips videos. Multitasking!
That sounds like a great plan :)
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This was fantastic, guys! Very well done. Saved me some time, frustration and colorful language ;^) God bless...
We did enough colorful language for the both of us. :)
Thanks again to the two of you, I was able to use a torque wrench,removed the flange, cut it, bought washers, all good now.
Hey Bob, Thats great. Glad to hear. :)
Thank you! About to start cutting that metal piece :)
Nice....Hope it turns out well. You will really appreciate the height savings.
Thanks for sharing
You are very welcome :)
Great vid thank you!
You are very welcome
Nice job. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Sir, the Scopema PDF clearly says that the larger screws are for the spacer to get bolted to the seat. The smaller screws are to attach the swivel to the 'avant'.
Hi Brynn, Thank you for commenting. You are correct. The larger screws would normally be used to attach the seat and the spacer. However, we did not use the spacer....we actually modified the bottom of the seat to fit without it. Without the spacer, the long screws were too long....so we switched them. Hope that makes sense. :)
Hi, just about to hit the buy on the Scopema swivels. I read that you had to do something with the emergency brake on the drivers side... did you have to do that? I have a 2018 Ram Promaster 2500 high roof 159.
Hi Jong, We did not do anything with the emergency brake on our 2019 Promaster. The only modification we made was to cut off the metal tab under the seats. This allowed us to install the Scopema Swivels without using the spacer bars. This saved us about 1/2 inch of height on the finished seat. It's a very easy modification.
Thank you
You're welcome !
Hi! I see some comments about parking brake modification below, but are you able to swivel the driver's side with the brake in the "up/parked" position?
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Thanks so much, Keith.....Not sure the algorithm is working in our favor....but I know your comment will help. Thank you :)
With factory spacer height: 1.2” = 19/16”
Without factory spacer height: 7/8” = 14/16”
The difference between with and without the factory spacer is: 19/16 - 14/16 = 5/16”
You also added washers for stability which added 2/16” to your height.
So if my math is correct, by removing the factory spacer and chopping seatbelts components, which arguably removes safety and security of the seat. You only saved 3/16 of an inch.
I recall it being about 1/2 of an inch, so you are about right. Up to you whether or not it is worth it. We rented a van in Scotland and the drivers seat was too high....pretty miserable. So we felt any height savings was worth the effort.
Sooooo....you eliminated the spacer and used the washers in place saving you 1/8 inch in height. Maybe the spacers and less hassle would be best. Also, that hook cut off on the bottom of the seat belt anchor is there for safety code specs.
It was definitely more than 1/8 of an inch.......but I dont remember exactly how much. AS far as that little metal piece.....heck if I know. I rotated the seat and moved everything I could and couldn't find what it did.
Any mods needed on the drivers side swivel? Parking brake? Thanks.
Same mods on both sides.....at least thats what I remember.
@@marctania2349 Thanks, did it same on both sides.
@@BTflicks @marctania2349 that's what I was coming to ask -- can you swivel the driver seat with the e-brake up/engaged?
@@mhemphill2631 yes
Hi Does this car comes with cruise system as standard?
Im not an expert in the feature set of the RMA Promaster 2500 but it looks like cruise control is a standard feature.
Love your video!!! I am starting my van build and have watched all your video.. just got my swivel seat today and debating if I should modify to reduce the height or not.. it seems like the added washers is about 1/8” only saving 3/8” without the spacer.. do u think if it worth to do the modification? Does your seat come with the 6 way adjustable? Mine is 6 way adjustable… can’t wait to see your electrical and plumbing video out
Jeff, My apologies for the late response. We have been in NJ the last 2 weeks handling some family matters after my parents passing. But thank you for the question. I would personally make any modification that is needed to reduce the seat height. We were recently in Scotland in a van rental...and the swivel seats had me staring into the visor. I HATED it.....and I am only 5'7". The mod for the Scopema seats is quite straight forward. Not sure for the others.....
@@marctania2349 I am sorry for your loss. I installed it with the spacer. It turned out not so bad. Thanks for reponses. Wish everything will be fine for you and waiting for your next video.
Do these swivels make the driver's seat too high for driving? I've heard the promaster seats are already high and then these just add extra height.
Hi Dylan, Tania is actually comfortable driving the van....and she's 5'3". It did help that we used the Scopemas.....as they are supposed to have least height increase. Also, we made a modification (as in the video) that allowed us to ditch the spacer bars. But the swivels work great...we would highly recommend them.
@@marctania2349 Thanks for replying! I guess my issue is more on the other front. I'm 6'1" and am worried that it will make it hard to see out the front windshield while driving
@@dylancunningham8769 Ahh....Gotcha. I have heard of taller people who ended up right at the visor after lifting the seats. We are in NJ right now visiting family....but, when we get back, we'll have our 6' next door neighbor sit in it and get his input. The Scopemas, without the spacer, did not raise it by much.
after deciding that my passenger seat was to high, I removed the spacers and was about to cut that flange, but it looks like the flange was designed
to secure the seat belt in case of an accident.
Not so sure if it should be cut.
Any thoughts???
Looks like its ok to cut.
Hi Bob, I was not able to see anything that that piece did. We did a bunch of research online first....but it seemed fine.
i think you installed them upside down
Hi Karl, I looked at them today. I can't really see how they would fit if we turned them over. But you certainly may be right. They work great, though.
@@perrellapartyof5 I installed the passenger side with the release mechanism facing up and when I swivel the seat, the mechanism scrapes against a metal rod that extends across the front of the seat base. If installed correctly, release mechanism faces down and is located between the seats. Everything works smoothly
You installed them upside down
You are correct! I installed the passenger side with the release mechanism up and when I swivel the seat, the mechanism scrapes against a metal piece across the front of the seat base. If installed correctly, release mechanism faces down and is located between the seats, I don't have that problem.
You are correct. But they still work fine. We did reach out to the company to ensure it didn't violate any safety issue just to be safe. We may one day redo them right side up
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