i actually appreciate the author for not writing a black woman's story for her, now years later a black woman can actually come in and add those nuances for a beautiful story
1:21 This needs context. (Spoiler): A group of teens (including Izzy and the girl with black hair, April) are playing spin the bottle. When Izzy spins the bottle, it lands on April, who is secretly her girlfriend. They go into the closet and kiss, but when someone opens the door, April claims Izzy molested her to avoid being outted as queer.
S Akintorin I noticed that description too. While reading the book, I already knew who the actors were playing Mia, and Pearl, respectively. So it was kinda hard to not put a face and a racial identity to each character, but then small details in the book made me realize the author didn’t write the characters with African American traits. One of them was when Lexie went to the clinic to get an abortion and tells them “her sister is there with her”, I felt like she wouldn’t have said that had Pearl been black in the book as it would have made it obvious it wasn’t her real-blood-related-sister since we all know in the book Lexie is white.
Very good adaptation, definitely better than the book. Characters are way more fleshed out and the conversation about their sexuality is top notch. My only reservation comes at the very end when the kids are the ones who burned the house down and not Izzy as the book
Okay this makes more sense. A co-worker of mine is reading the book and suggests I do the same. I have too many projects that I'm doing at this time to really get into a novel, so I decided I would just have the show on while I was doing my work. I mentioned the show to the coworker, and since I didn't know a lot about it or the characters I mentioned that the white, female lead was played by Reese and the black, female lead was played by Kerry. Uncharacteristically my coworker seemed to get into a snit that she had no idea that one character was white and one was black. Her argument seemed to take on a rather ugly, ultra-woke tint. Sensing she was getting aggravated that I even would mention race, I quickly set the conversation aside and put a bit of distance between the two of us for the rest of the day. As the series progressed, I was about to confront her again and say, "oh, come on! How can you take such a holier than thou attitude towards the fact that this is so heavily a story about race and social inequality?? In fact the topic, and all of the other overly emphasized concepts in the series, made the wokeness feel as if it was being jammed down your throat." Glad I suffered through the entire series and then watchied this video before confronting the coworker and nearly getting ourselves into an argument. Honestly, the book sounds much more interesting and enjoyably nuanced than the series. I wish I would have taken the time to read rather than having watched this lifetime channel-type junk.
I’m not. That lady left her baby somewhere that she could die. They had no heat in their house. They have free formula places, places that she could get help without showing ID. She left her there to save herself(n the baby) but didn’t make sure she got inside the building or was properly covered. If she left her in a hot car and was caught at the right time would it make a difference... at what point does the window pass?
I understand why they did it, but it's starting to annoy me that issues of sexuality must be shoehorned into stories that otherwise don't have it in the source material.
I read the book first so I actually hated the series. It changed so much. Mia has become very negative person in the series, meanwhile in the book shew was nice. I hated Kerry Washington's character. A basically virgin in the book becomes a bisexual woman who had several time sex and she was not at all that comforting to eg. Lexie or Izzy like in the book. Also, there was no homosexuality and raciscm was more like put on the Chinese-American side not the Black-white side. I do not know why they needed to bring these changes in the series.... Basically they turned everything I liked in the book something I hated in the series.
I haven't seen the series yet but I don't think I like those changes too :( I think there are a lot of black and white (right and wrong) portraying Elena as horrible as they could, putting in her all the flaws they could imagine.
you sound like you just dont want to hear about race i.e. black and white or sexuality?? ofc the story line is going to changed to be adapted into a tv series with new nuances
I understand why you feel that way. I myself hated the series at first cause i keep comparing it to the book. They made a lot of the characters more cliché. I also love how Pearl in the book is so thoughtful, she understands why her mom does what she does. Pearl didnt care much about Lexie using her name, because she knows Lexie is going through much worse. Of course Lexie in the book is not as much of a pain as in the series. But i love both Mias. Mia in the series seems more human to me, not perfect but full of love and emotions. I also love that they're not afraid to bring race matters into the series since it helps me understand more about the struggles African Americans have to go through. This also reminds me why i like the character Brian sooo much.
The title should be called Mover shaker (the license plate in the show) or Home Recker. Didn't think I would like it but I love it because it is provokes me. Honestly hate the ungrateful children especially Izzy and never allow people you don't know in your home again.
i feel like its also little fires everywhere because its basically little lies everywhere that are just waiting to burn and blow, and the little lies can turn into large flames after a while
@@katharinamaria5204 I agree. Izzy was hurt, she did know what she had. Did her mom know what she wanted, or even care. Why couldn’t she call her Izzy like everyone else.
@@jayjayh9801 Like Cobra Kai, the two main characters have all the best intentions and on paper you would think they would be the best on friends. Everytime Daniel and Johnny make peace and come together some outside force pushes them away, or better yet causes them to collide. The same can be said about Little Fires Everywhere. Its almost seems like a greater force is keeping them at odds.
Kaitlyn Arena the series was terrible though of course it had its good parts but it was predictable and in any show you should have someone to cheer for not the fire that hopefully kills everyone
Oh... so Kerry Washington made it about race... smh... of course... remember racism goes both ways. And that “entitlement” myth is definatly defined clearly from both sides.
Jenna Robinson No you idiot. The writer of the original book made it about racism and she wanted the book to be about racism from the start. You didn’t pay attention, you just wanted to complain about the racism theme. Racism can not go both ways! White people are the ones who started racism. Racism was literally invented by white people. A black person can not be racist to a white person, only prejudice and in this series the black characters never mistreated the white ones. They were the ones mistreated as it usually is in real life. You sound so uneducated and ignorant.
I had to look it up but glad that I did after your assumption about racism: Key Takeaways: The Difference Between Prejudice and Racism Prejudice refers to a preconceived idea about a particular group, while racism involves an unequal distribution of power on the basis of race. Sociologists have found that racism has led to a wide range of detrimental outcomes for people of color, including unequal access to jobs and housing, as well as an increased risk of being a victim of police brutality. According to the sociological perspective, members of privileged groups can experience prejudice, but their experience will be different than the experience of someone who experiences systemic racism.
There is a difference between “racism” and “systemic racism”. Black ppl can 100% be racist towards white ppl and any other “race” because racism is believing that you’re “race” is superior to another, PERIOD. You are referring to systemic racism which involves social and economic disparities inflicted on one race by another.
They try their best to make black and unamerican people the good one .. but to me they just ruined it.. Mia is the one to stole a child from her parents and she didn't take the money back atlest to show shes decent person but she's not same with chines women she left her own child in cold weather because she scared they will send her away... if that not selfish so what is it am sorry I don't have any symbithy to any of them.. what I saw a nice people who adopted a lonely child been left by her own mother just because they are white and rich so they have to be bad people .. but the real mother who give love not birth not what I saw .. bad script and performance to these two
But they didn’t. Mia is very unlikable in the series. She is judgmental and possessive. What she did to Pearl was horrible. Pearl says outright she doesn’t want to be like her mother. It’s clear that Bebe is in the wrong to take away the baby illegally, even though she’s at an disadvantage in the system. Everyone in the series is flawed. They suffer from their circumstances AND personal choices. That’s the point, really..
Thanks, finally someone said it, and Mia let her stolen girl suffer but she sacrificed her photo and money for someone else, no matter how good the intention was , not a good mother when your chilled is not your priority
This was the best series I've seen in years!
Renee Reese for real tho my dad was watching this and I got hooked on it it 5 mins I love this series soo much
I found Kerry Washington’s character truly unlikable . As did a lot of the characters and hard to warm to
Chompo14 Last name I agree, but I also feel like that’s the point, as every character is supposed to be flawed
@@jking4973 Yes, I believe their unlikability is what drives the story.
It was a really good series. I’m happy it touched on racism and classism. It also didn’t discriminate on calling everyone out by the end.
i actually appreciate the author for not writing a black woman's story for her, now years later a black woman can actually come in and add those nuances for a beautiful story
the book is good but the series steps it up 2 notches. Very very good.
1:21 This needs context. (Spoiler):
A group of teens (including Izzy and the girl with black hair, April) are playing spin the bottle. When Izzy spins the bottle, it lands on April, who is secretly her girlfriend. They go into the closet and kiss, but when someone opens the door, April claims Izzy molested her to avoid being outted as queer.
Idk why, but when I read the book over a year ago I thought Mia and Pearl were black...
Hayley J I’m reading it now and she alludes to it by calling their hair frizzy but she never explicitly says it
S Akintorin ah ok.
S Akintorin I noticed that description too. While reading the book, I already knew who the actors were playing Mia, and Pearl, respectively. So it was kinda hard to not put a face and a racial identity to each character, but then small details in the book made me realize the author didn’t write the characters with African American traits. One of them was when Lexie went to the clinic to get an abortion and tells them “her sister is there with her”, I felt like she wouldn’t have said that had Pearl been black in the book as it would have made it obvious it wasn’t her real-blood-related-sister since we all know in the book Lexie is white.
Cristian Moro ah, good point.
Same.
Very good adaptation, definitely better than the book. Characters are way more fleshed out and the conversation about their sexuality is top notch. My only reservation comes at the very end when the kids are the ones who burned the house down and not Izzy as the book
when you realize that watch mojo just copied this
So ALL their content?
My favorite book atm!
Okay this makes more sense.
A co-worker of mine is reading the book and suggests I do the same. I have too many projects that I'm doing at this time to really get into a novel, so I decided I would just have the show on while I was doing my work. I mentioned the show to the coworker, and since I didn't know a lot about it or the characters I mentioned that the white, female lead was played by Reese and the black, female lead was played by Kerry.
Uncharacteristically my coworker seemed to get into a snit that she had no idea that one character was white and one was black. Her argument seemed to take on a rather ugly, ultra-woke tint. Sensing she was getting aggravated that I even would mention race, I quickly set the conversation aside and put a bit of distance between the two of us for the rest of the day. As the series progressed, I was about to confront her again and say, "oh, come on! How can you take such a holier than thou attitude towards the fact that this is so heavily a story about race and social inequality?? In fact the topic, and all of the other overly emphasized concepts in the series, made the wokeness feel as if it was being jammed down your throat."
Glad I suffered through the entire series and then watchied this video before confronting the coworker and nearly getting ourselves into an argument.
Honestly, the book sounds much more interesting and enjoyably nuanced than the series. I wish I would have taken the time to read rather than having watched this lifetime channel-type junk.
I would love to get a hold of the book!
I’m so glad Bebe got her baby back
I’m not. That lady left her baby somewhere that she could die. They had no heat in their house. They have free formula places, places that she could get help without showing ID. She left her there to save herself(n the baby) but didn’t make sure she got inside the building or was properly covered. If she left her in a hot car and was caught at the right time would it make a difference... at what point does the window pass?
Great show, I just couldn't get over how beautiful Bebe was though...just wow 😍
I understand why they did it, but it's starting to annoy me that issues of sexuality must be shoehorned into stories that otherwise don't have it in the source material.
Exactly-no show can be without it now. Sad
Exactly Izzy's sexuallity isn't relevant in the book and Mia's is more interesting in the book (she's reveled as assexual)
cuz thats how it can be in real life
They changed so many things but that’s what annoyed you?
@@marylandsworld3428 Yeah. Sometimes it starts to feel like agenda writing.
So they wouldnt be able to tackle racial issues if Mia was asian like she is in the book?? Hmmm...
I thought the author left Mia’s race ambiguous in the book?
xxIluvyouguysxx she did
Mia isn’t asian in the book
Being Asian in a Predominantly white community is not the same as being black in a community.
@@CaptainChapin socjust disregard the asian American experience then huh? Lmao sad.
I read the book first so I actually hated the series. It changed so much. Mia has become very negative person in the series, meanwhile in the book shew was nice. I hated Kerry Washington's character. A basically virgin in the book becomes a bisexual woman who had several time sex and she was not at all that comforting to eg. Lexie or Izzy like in the book.
Also, there was no homosexuality and raciscm was more like put on the Chinese-American side not the Black-white side. I do not know why they needed to bring these changes in the series....
Basically they turned everything I liked in the book something I hated in the series.
I haven't seen the series yet but I don't think I like those changes too :( I think there are a lot of black and white (right and wrong) portraying Elena as horrible as they could, putting in her all the flaws they could imagine.
you sound like you just dont want to hear about race i.e. black and white or sexuality?? ofc the story line is going to changed to be adapted into a tv series with new nuances
Mia in the series is awesome, has a great connection with Izzy and puts all other privileged characters in their place. Kerry Washington
I understand why you feel that way. I myself hated the series at first cause i keep comparing it to the book. They made a lot of the characters more cliché. I also love how Pearl in the book is so thoughtful, she understands why her mom does what she does. Pearl didnt care much about Lexie using her name, because she knows Lexie is going through much worse. Of course Lexie in the book is not as much of a pain as in the series. But i love both Mias. Mia in the series seems more human to me, not perfect but full of love and emotions. I also love that they're not afraid to bring race matters into the series since it helps me understand more about the struggles African Americans have to go through. This also reminds me why i like the character Brian sooo much.
@@kimsangle4112 yes I enjoyed both because there different and I don’t mind learning new perspectives from all the characters
The title should be called Mover shaker (the license plate in the show) or Home Recker. Didn't think I would like it but I love it because it is provokes me. Honestly hate the ungrateful children especially Izzy and never allow people you don't know in your home again.
i feel like its also little fires everywhere because its basically little lies everywhere that are just waiting to burn and blow, and the little lies can turn into large flames after a while
You hate Izzy?? Did we watch the same show??
@@katharinamaria5204 I agree. Izzy was hurt, she did know what she had. Did her mom know what she wanted, or even care. Why couldn’t she call her Izzy like everyone else.
They took the book and made it way way better.
Cool 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
so fucking good, loved it
So they made the show as “woke” as possible,
They made content the book doesn’t sound like it has enough to really push the intensity that the show brought.
But yes it is
it reminds me of cobra kai
how
@@jayjayh9801 Like Cobra Kai, the two main characters have all the best intentions and on paper you would think they would be the best on friends. Everytime Daniel and Johnny make peace and come together some outside force pushes them away, or better yet causes them to collide. The same can be said about Little Fires Everywhere. Its almost seems like a greater force is keeping them at odds.
kevingrah32 i also think there was a dislikeness between mia and elena from the start i didn’t notice anything pushing them away
from being friends
They were black in the book.
Movie series is terrible everyone is a terrible person except the husband bill and Pearl that’s it
For real!
emmanuel rosel the only bad thing she was like the brother which compared to everyone else isn’t that bad
emmanuel rosel u are hilarious and missed the entire point of the show, the dad was a supporting role, you can't relate with him only
sergio valencia just because the characters are unlikable doesn’t mean a series is bad
Kaitlyn Arena the series was terrible though of course it had its good parts but it was predictable and in any show you should have someone to cheer for not the fire that hopefully kills everyone
Oh... so Kerry Washington made it about race... smh... of course... remember racism goes both ways. And that “entitlement” myth is definatly defined clearly from both sides.
Jenna Robinson No you idiot. The writer of the original book made it about racism and she wanted the book to be about racism from the start. You didn’t pay attention, you just wanted to complain about the racism theme. Racism can not go both ways! White people are the ones who started racism. Racism was literally invented by white people. A black person can not be racist to a white person, only prejudice and in this series the black characters never mistreated the white ones. They were the ones mistreated as it usually is in real life. You sound so uneducated and ignorant.
I had to look it up but glad that I did after your assumption about racism:
Key Takeaways: The Difference Between Prejudice and Racism
Prejudice refers to a preconceived idea about a particular group, while racism involves an unequal distribution of power on the basis of race.
Sociologists have found that racism has led to a wide range of detrimental outcomes for people of color, including unequal access to jobs and housing, as well as an increased risk of being a victim of police brutality.
According to the sociological perspective, members of privileged groups can experience prejudice, but their experience will be different than the experience of someone who experiences systemic racism.
There is a difference between “racism” and “systemic racism”. Black ppl can 100% be racist towards white ppl and any other “race” because racism is believing that you’re “race” is superior to another, PERIOD. You are referring to systemic racism which involves social and economic disparities inflicted on one race by another.
They try their best to make black and unamerican people the good one .. but to me they just ruined it.. Mia is the one to stole a child from her parents and she didn't take the money back atlest to show shes decent person but she's not same with chines women she left her own child in cold weather because she scared they will send her away... if that not selfish so what is it am sorry I don't have any symbithy to any of them.. what I saw a nice people who adopted a lonely child been left by her own mother just because they are white and rich so they have to be bad people .. but the real mother who give love not birth not what I saw .. bad script and performance to these two
But they didn’t. Mia is very unlikable in the series. She is judgmental and possessive. What she did to Pearl was horrible. Pearl says outright she doesn’t want to be like her mother. It’s clear that Bebe is in the wrong to take away the baby illegally, even though she’s at an disadvantage in the system. Everyone in the series is flawed. They suffer from their circumstances AND personal choices. That’s the point, really..
“Un-American”? The irony of this comment in relation to the themes of the book…
Thanks, finally someone said it, and Mia let her stolen girl suffer but she sacrificed her photo and money for someone else, no matter how good the intention was , not a good mother when your chilled is not your priority