BABYMETAL is a JOKE!
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- Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2022
- BABYMETAL is a JOKE....is this really true, or are they just hated on by elitist metalheads? In order to get to the bottom of this controversy, we'll be watching a live peformance of Babymetal's, "Akatsuki", live at the famous Budokan arena in Tokyo, Japan
Babymetal is a Japanese kawaii metal band consisting of Suzuka Nakamoto as "Su-metal" and Moa Kikuchi as "Moametal". The band is produced by Kobametal from the Amuse talent agency. The real question is this....Can they win us over, or will they be consumed by the fires of judgement? Muhahaha
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thank god u didnt really think this was all that great....i agree , this isnt a shared band its just all about the shock factory that a cute little girl is singing.......................wheres the respect for the instruments
how is this comment 8 hours ago but video is 17 minutes ago
@@DegobaSystem-ox1ig Sure, only a song and that should be enough to sentence a verdict. Of course they're not a conventional band, if any they're a group, a metal dance unit backing up by a metal band, the story is long but metal or not, manufactured or not, they fought with their own thing against metalheads gatekeeping the genre and that's metal enough af for me.
@@starplatinum727 coz it was non listed.
@@DegobaSystem-ox1ig Dont talk about things you have no idea about. That "cute little girl" is better than any other singer you can name. Gimme chocolate is definitely shock value, but there is nothing in this song that is shock unless youre some retarded metalhead that cant understand what real talent is.
One of my favourite things about Babymetal is how they really piss off metal purists, of which I used to be one.
I really have joy at that "used to be". Welcome to a better world.
They don't piss me off. In fact they're just stealing X Japan's music style and putting women on it. They are definitely pure Japanese metal that's for sure but it's already been done in the early 90s.
They've never denied the X Japan influence, in fact the whole neck brace thing Babymetal do is an unashamed shout out to them. Most Japanese metal is influenced by them, they're huge. But it's not like American bands stopped doing thrash after Metallica and Anthrax because it had been done. If a style works then keep it going and why not keep it fresh by blending it with the idol industry
@@edbad85 yeah but that x Japan style is the only one they sound good in everything else just sounds like it's forced just for the sake of doing it
@J Man "Sounds forced"
Excuizey me?
Forced as in "mastered as well as anyone else in a given genre?" Yes; I'll buy that.
You essentially boiled your summation down to... "I wish they just did what everyone else does..."..... Well... There are thousands of those bands, there is only one Babymetal, that was the whole point in their existence. Something like Babymetal would never exist if it was just left to the typical "dudes/girls" randomly forming a band from scratch. You can't build a modern Formula 1 team as DIY project with some buddies... Some things can only exist in specific ways... So regardless of personal taste, the way Babymetal exists and is managed is not a valid point of criticism.
Couldn't have said it better if I tried, highly underrated comment 🦊🤘
Totally in agreement with both of you! I've seen them twice here in London. They can't be compartmentalised which really gets to some reactors. Why do they have to fit into a genre?! It's ridiculous! He has to look at more songs to formulate a considered opinion and one which we can take seriously!
thank u for putting formula 1 in ur comment. i didn't read it full, but i can see formula 1
Sucks any level or genre
I'm glad someone likes it. Where would they be? ROFLMAO 🤣
Not a bad reaction, but instead of seeing the band for what it was, it often felt like you were just checking to make sure they were following all the rules you've decided a band needs to stick to if they want to be considered 'legitimate'. Teacher needs to put the red pen away and just dig it. This aint your daddy's metal, this is BABYMETAL!
This style of metal has been around for years….so you could say this is your daddy’s metal.
It’s cool if you enjoy it, but I find it boring.
Right, and isn't that ironic? Metal is deeply-rooted in the 1960s counterculture movement, being directly tied to the civil rights movements of the time. So someone saying that metal has to follow a set list of rules is completely missing the entire point of the genre.
well said
@@mat5267 J-pop metal has been around for years? O.o
@@alexdhamp yes lol
The backing band.. known as the Kami Band is a team up of some of the best session musicians in Japan. BabyMetal & their fanbase absolutely love the Kami Band. Kami has stated in the past they are grateful for BabyMetal taking them to worldwide venues that they might never have performed in. At this point, one can’t separate the BabyMetal from the Kami Band. They are One. The crowds cheer whenever the Kami perform their intros before a BabyMetal song.
As BabyMetal, they are who they are. They didn’t necessarily try to market themselves outside Japan, as most Japanese artists stick to Japan-only market (2nd largest music market in the world). They’ve been mocked & insulted for who they are. Even during live music awards shows. Thru it all, the girls never were toxic. Hoping their music can continue to improve & gain acceptance. Legendary bands & artists… like Metallic, Korn, RHCP, BMTH, etc have become fans of BabyMetal. They’ve created their own genre of music. Unique among many.
Saying that, BabyMetal isn’t for everyone. Metal purists will continue to mock them. Insult them. But they will continue to be BabyMetal. They won’t change who they are. Appreciative of the millions of fans around the world.
With that being said.. The Real Kami band hasn't done and intro since the 2017 Fox Festivals and 2018 they put masks on them. Also all the bands mentioned being fans gave their accolades prior to this change (Bring me the Horizon not in the same class). The current set up would probably not garner the same praise.
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I agree. And most of us think that the best was when Fujioka-san and Yui Metal were there.
thanks. Those guys are super shredders.
@@radioraffa Not entirely accurate. Assuming that by "real Kami band" you are talking about the Japanese band, they did Kagerou solos at a few shows. The other Kami band, the Americans that went with BM on tour through the US and Europe in 2019-2020 did solos at every show they played, and every one of them are outstanding musicians. I don't like the masks they wear now, I agree with that, but the Kami band, Japanese or American (if they still use Americans) still do their job at a very high level.
@@galdanag The Japanese Kami band never did intros to Kagerou. Since it came out in 2018. The rental west band did a so called intro to it a couple of times. But it was more like a extended version of the song and not memorable. Aside from Barone's drum blast.. The Star Wars band is stiff and the bass player is a guitarist that plays with a pick.. SLAP!! Lol. Also I'm sure there are backing tracks to fill in to their performance.
Babymetal are very misunderstood because they come from a very different musical culture and way of doing things to what metal fans are used to. I used to be one of the metal snobs that dismissed Babymetal as a manufactured gimmick act, but when I looked into them more, I was surprised at how musically diverse they are, and how incredible their live performances are. Although they come from the Japanese j-pop "idol" culture, they have very much charted their own path from when they began as a side project of the idol group Sakura Gakuin. Babymetal was never expected to become the success it did, and far exceeded anyone's expectations. I attribute their success to them doing something that no-one has ever seen before, and doing it incredibly well. The fact that they are still going strong after 12 years is a testament to the fact that they found a niche that clicked with people.
The big barrier to understanding them is that a lot of people view them through the same lens as they would any normal metal band; a bunch of musicians writing songs, recording them, and then touring around playing on stage. While Babymetal do most of those things too, Babymetal is also a whole theatrical production, as well as having its own lore and ongoing narrative and assorted connected media. I describe them as "heavy metal as performance art". The key to appreciating them is to toss aside all of your preconceptions about what a "metal band" is and see that Babymetal is coming at heavy metal from a completely different direction with their own understanding of what heavy metal is. They're an avant-garde art metal project that defies all the established conventions of what metal should look like, and that's what makes them so fun; they're unlike anything else.
I know you mean well, but Japan has its own traditional metal scene that's little different to its western equivalents. I don't have any cause to criticise Babymetal, but you definitely started poorly there.
@@MadassAlex I'm well aware of that. I was talking about the idol part of the music industry, which doesn't really have a direct equivalent in the west. Babymetal are an idol group that does metal; the misunderstanding comes from people not knowing how idol works, not that Japanese metal is inherently different to other metal simply by virtue of being Japanese. There are plenty of successful Japanese metal bands doing it the "normal" way, and they don't get the pushback that Babymetal has. BM are the odd ones out because they are so firmly rooted in idol culture, which leads to a lot of misconceptions about them.
@@Icipher353 I understand that part. I'm suggesting by implication that metalheads distrusting idol culture is to be expected.
This is the best summation of what BABYMETAL is that anyone in the comments has tried to make.
They're just stealing x Japan's image and visual ki element. They were putting on shows like this in the early 90s.
You mentioned how BabyMetal is a ‘polished presentation’ and question the ‘sell out’ factor. Ironically, your hat represents a band that did just that: The Beatles were a band of leather jacket-wearing, slicked-back-hair, Cavern playing teddy boys that were put into suits and ties, cut their hair and were polished up for presentation purposes. Mass market manipulation. Even the best did it.
Nearly all of the biggest metal bands in history have a gimmick. Gimmicks are only negative if they arent supported by talent and genuine enthusiasm. Babymetal has plenty of both.
@@Bones12x2 yep, agree with u
Is it market manipulation, or just selling to demographics by giving them what they want?
@Big Ragu Babymetal the heavy metal sub-unit of Sakura Gakuin first performed at TIF 2010 - new album being released March 2023 about 13 years and counting. Founded their own genre ("can't keep up with all these metal genres") kawaii metal.
Beatles, (as a name band - Aug 1960 performing in beer halls) earliest released song Aug 1963 - last song released track Aug 1970. That's seven years, ten as a band. Initially considered a gimmick and non-main stream rock.
Polished as In good looking eye candy, not the norm for metal.
If you can't tell when someone is obviously singing live then you don't know wtf you are talking about, also it's funny that you'd pick on fan connection when babymetals fan connection is absolutely off the charts
Couldn't agree more. I'll add that Su-Metal Is THE best vocalist I've ever heard.
I'm pretty sure he was talking about the backing track that comes in during the parts where there's a vocal harmony
@@darkestfox-metal Well, that's just pathetic.
Sure, Shred, who is formally and classically trained as a musician, a pro guitar player and steeped in music theory, doesn't know wtf he's talking about. He's reacting to this video. Feel free to get your panties in a wad, but being a douche isn't productive, and doesn't help to promote the band over which you salivate.
@@DeadRingerMachine You have a different opinion? Would you like to share It politely?
babymetal is not a joke. they exists for 12 years. Suzuka (lead singer) is pro singer since her 8 years. Kami band is one of the best band in Japan. i got tickets fot their live show next year. if you really want to see some power metal from babymetal, i strongly recommend "road of resistance" song, live in Japan version.
The real joke is this channel .. his guitar playing is mediocre, but he was just expressing his opinion. No need to listen
@@gurumajuindonesiaW Comment 🤘😆Metal is Metal you like what you like no sense in arguing if you like the same genre of Music 😁🤙
@@HogsWash well, music is just music to me, no matter what the genre is and all the visual non-sense .. everything is all about content nowadays, but make sure you have knowledge before trying to justify something.
@@gurumajuindonesia mediocre kayak apa?
Not being like every other metal band IS the point of Babymetal, that makes them unique and also respected by other metal legends. Although they're famous for the elaborate stage shows, they also do stripped down show's where it's just the girls and the Kami Band playing killer metal
explain how they’re different from most western power metal. or do you even listen to metal? or do you just listen to two songs and say it’s all the same?
This sounds like every other metal band with a female vocalist.
Same drum beat, time and key signature.
It’s not bad by any means, but we’ve heard it all before.
The only twist is that it’s sung in Japanese.
When I was going to Japan, my dad (was in a 80s metal band) research what kind of music they had including rock & metal he's the one who showed this to me b4 I went. He was very familiar with the Why they are what they are or thier agents strategy.. is to stand out in a country where it's hard to do so, My dad does a lot of criticizing of modern bands, but he absolutely enjoyed and praised "The Kami Band" the guys performing behind the girls.
I don't like the twin pigtail girls at all, but Su is amazing. No rain no rainbow reminded me of soft Queensrythe.
BABYMETAL are great, and that there are still metalheads out there who are agitated that this group exists makes them even better. ;-)
Too true. It's pure prejudice. Open your ears haters and take the blinkers off. I'm not a fan of either metal or J-pop (post-punk, psychedelia, space rock and electronics are my thing), but the fusion that is Babymetal blew me away. I'll give metal bands an honest hearing because I do my best to avoid preconceptions. Take the hint people.
@@paulfarley1808 can I ask, di they make they their own music, I mean not just the lyric? Also the composition of the music? Or they just love metal and have great voice to sing in Metal song?? I mean they are good but I really love in they do their own music and composition of the song... Nightwish is also metal band, and they don't growl but they play the instrument ,they do their own composition of the song.. Or I recommende Isyana Sarasvati, she sings metal too, she writes and compose her songs and she also play piano,,.. But she is not just metal singer but other genre also, and they are all good..
@@paulfarley1808 that take is so narrow minded and simpish. Just because someone might not like babymetal, they must immediately be prejudiced or have blinkers on? What if they just dont fkin like it? It can really be that simple. Why is it nowadays, there has to be malicious intent assumed with everything. Some people just don't like it. Get over it. Theres no agenda.
you misunderstood there, theres a big difference between "not liking" and "hating", you may not like babymetal, and that's totally fair as everyone has their own taste, but criticizing the band cuz they are trying something new is what you should call being "narrow minded"
note that Rob Zombie approves them as METAL, Judas priest said this is metal, metallica were impressed by them. and if these legendary metal singers and bands says Babymetal is METAL then there should be no debate @@jimjam_games5783
Babymetal and The Kami Band are what they are...they are highly produced, choreographed and talented. BM is definitely a polished product created by Amuse and their producer Kei Kobayashi and there's no pretense at it being anything else. The girls and the band are performers and the result is part way between a rock concert and a Broadway show. It's definitely a different take on "metal" as it isn't Ozzie screaming into a mic in some Black Country pub, so the measuring stick is different. As far as commitment and hard work BM compare with any band, but they do have the songs written for them so it certainly doesn't have the authenticity of Lou Reed singing about heroin. I think it achieves what it sets out to do and that is entertain. Some people will love it and some people won't.
FYI the lead singer, Suzuka Nakamoto, is 16 in this performance and is definitely singing. The whole concept of BM was developed around her singing voice.
Lou Reed singing with Metallica was a strange time
Funny thing you mentioned Ozzy, cause indeed he was in the crowd for that very show, though not sure wether it was the Red or the Black Night at BUDOKAN.🤘🏻🦊⚡
@@DeePal072 With his wife, who is the one who is most public about liking them.
I don't see it as an Amuse product, I see it as a Koba product. Sure if gives him the connections, but he has the connections himself.
@@autohmae definitely. He struggled to see this project taking off. I know many people complain about Koba for his current management, but he's the guy that planted the seed for all of this, I'll always be grateful.
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You may not like them but they are no joke. Apart from the excellent musicianship of the band, they are also a way to introduce kids to metal. I watch Babymetal concerts with my 7 year-old, she loves it so much and it's become a way for me to introduce her to my passion for metal. And I like that it is different. I'm a diehard extreme metal fan but I have huge respect for Babymetal.
I appreciate your honest opinion, but I would also strongly recommend listening to more of their music. They are one of the most diverse and experimental bands out there, when it comes to including different styles and blending genres.
Does not mean you will like it, but I strongly recommend not writing them off after just hearing 1 song for 1 time!
I was once just like you not really into them, when discovering them at first, but they are now my absolutely favourite band/group/musical act whatever you want to call them
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Agreed. I used to think "if you don't like Babymetal, you probably haven't heard the right song yet." Because there's definitely songs I like more than the rest.
One of the things I like about them is that they've experimented with a lot of existing genres and sub-genres. The influences are often clear. And it doesn't feel like a band anymore, but more like a culmination of ideas. A metal band (Kami Band) is merely part of it. And so are the three J-Pop girls up front.
Not to mention that what they give in their big live shows are more than just metal concerts. I think that's part of the reason it feels like a "polished presentation." It's very rehearsed and intricately choreographed like Broadway or something. It's usually a huge show, not just in a plain concert kind of way. (Though they do have actual small concerts, especially outside Japan)
Imagine a guy working with bands, as the jack of all trades to facilitate bands. Then demand for rock/metal, etc. bands goes down in Japan and he's asked to work in the kids division. He looks for talent and find a girl who sings loud and thinks: what if the loud music I like and her loud voice go together ? He tried to find ways to work with her. A year or 2 later he gets a chance (lucky break) to try this crazy idea inside the company as a hobby project, no funding (in that sense like a garage band), but he's allowed to use some of the existing resources (in that sense, it's like him facilitating a band through his existing connections). And it got popular. The girls used to perform on small stages with no backing band, etc. Starting out at things like the food court of a festival where the comedians perform.. Because they are so different they got noticed and more famous. Then the live band gets added, for a while even had a clearly fake band. Babymetal never claimed to be a real band. But you know what ? Babymetal is a gateway band and increased popularity of metal in Japan and get new generations interested in metal around the world. Sales numbers of metal music in general increased in Japan because of it.
the real Rob Zombie loves them
And the real Rob Halford
Underrated comment 😂 This guy sucks
Because they said it in an interview while they were on tour with them? 😂 give me a break.
@@Hadouken5150 but in fact now Baby Metal is touring with Slipknot on Knotfest. Give me another joke
Shred - "It's not about copying what's already been done. You need to take elements of what exists and then create something new."
This is exactly why I enjoy Babymetal. Three tiny ladies singing and doing choreographed interpretive dance to passionate music that is a unique blend of multiple genres played by a world class metal band. I've never seen anything like it and that's what I look for in bands now days. I don't care about all the typical pretentious criticisms they receive. They are just so damn good at what they do. I love their music and dedication to excellence. They connect with their audience so well and put on one of the best live shows I've ever seen. They don't fit the typical metal band mold, and that's a great thing in my eyes because there's too much of the same old tired metal formula out there now days. Bring something new to the table for god's sake.
If you don't like them that's fine, just move along. Let's just enjoy the bands we connect with and stop all the stupid gatekeeping. Nice clickbait, though.
Exactly....
Shred: I don't like the manufactured un-authentic style .... Its about the art not corporate money.
Also Shred: Makes super click bait disingenuous youtube title and video filled with baseless assumptions because he didnt do any research before sharing an opinion because he knows it will get views and make corporate YT money.... 👍 #suchintegrity
"Nice clickbait though."
This is Circle 9 level burn in Dante's inferno. ;)
@@10Shun Yeah, he's the one who is getting burned in the comments. 🤣
no, it’s just milking the power metal formula. has any of you commenters talking about how genius and revolutionary it is ever actually listened to real metal? it’s power metal but poppier.
@@sebass337 Your statement indicates that you haven't listened properly to Babymetal. 🤣 I've heard elements of speed/power, trash, folk, progressive, nu - in different songs of Babymetal.
It's 2022 and people still can't get their heads around the fact the BABYMETAL is two Young Ladies with a backing band. And what amazes me even more is that people think the use of composers is a bad thing
It must be a metal thing because nobody complains about Elvis or Beyonce.
Classical musicians don't write their own music, and they're well respected.
@@JohnFromAccounting I think most metalheads would respect and be fans of the composers, not necessarily soloists or orchestral players. And most metalheads definitely aren't pop fans, and that's one of the reasons. I mean when you look at why bands like Nightwish or Kamelot or Ayreon are so beloved, a lot of the reason is because of their excellent songwriting. People like Tuomas Holopainen and Roy Khan have devoted followings because they bring the whole package of talent, including technical ability, stage performance and composition, and especially the combination of those things - like he was saying, watching a singer who composed the song and wrote their own lyrics and is pouring their own heart out on stage a la Roy Khan or Tobias Sammett hits different than someone just standing up and singing someone else's music. And then if you look at Ayreon, wow, what a devoted following Arjen has, and he doesn't even tour or perform on a lot of his stuff - he's just the songwriter. But that's kind of the most important part. Here, it seems like the musicians are more just hired guns installed to do a job, not really the people behind the music in any way. It's all sort of a product, with someone just orchestrating all the hiring, more than a band. It's hard to see a lot of emotion and meaning in it.
You clearly know what you're talking about in terms of music but in terms of this group, oh boy you got a long way, but just so you know, i got a bad news for you, this debate about wether they're a joke or not is really late, before 2016 maybe it was a valid question, now after more than 10 years and solid career backing up by rock and metal legends, the debate is already over, you either in or out, is all good, they're gonna keep rocking wether you like it or not.
Wish you the best with your manufactured and marketed business too. Take care.
they’ve got the sound of power metal and the soul of mass produced pop. it’s a joke, success doesn’t change that.
@@sebass337 _they got the soul of mass produced pop_
Did you know how many albums they released in more than 10 years? How come is that nearly close to "mass produced pop"?
Success didn't change these girls, sure, and that's remarkable because any other one with half success would have lost their minds and maybe end up thinking is a big musician and doing reaction on YT trying to sell some manufactured "mass produced " whatever throughout clickbait reactions, now that's the real joke here and nothing is gonna change that.
@@jakemuller8626 i mean the type of music, the sound. y’know they were basically made because the industry were having trouble selling music.
@@sebass337 And what's the definition of joke, may I ask? Do you think what you say or do you just love to hear yourself speak?
@@SumitPalTube they’re hard to take seriously. this should be obvious. and they still take themselves rather seriously, which just makes it even worse. do _you_ think before you comment?
Akatsuki means 'Crimson Moon' and Black Night, was a famous gig they played In Japan. The whole gig Is amazing. You chose a solo song for Suzuka, In which the other two girls are not there. You also have to understand that the stage band (Kami Band) are literally not part of Babymetal per se, but are very talented studio musicians who play with BM on their live tours. BM at that time were Su, Moa and Yui, now only Su and Moa. What you didn't see In that video was the dancing which accompanies most of the songs. This Is a large part of their appeal. Babymetal are not strictly a band, they are an Idol group. To judge them for not acting like a band on stage, Is a little unfair as you are missing the point of their live work. I'm a long-term metal-head, about 35 years, and I love BabyMetal. Can't wait to see them live next April.
It's so really funny how these guys/gals/etc. have put down Babymetal, yet place legends like Alice Cooper on a Worshipping pedestal, with reverence & so much genuflection, not knowing it's very likely Kei Kobayashi himself partly or entirely modeled Babymetal after the Progenitor of Glam Metal, etc.: Alice Cooper!
I really enjoy listening to Babymetal, I'd love to see them in concert, it's a great mix of metal, theatrics, and cuteness combined. I want to see a concert where it's entertaining and I believe Babymetal would be great to see live. The way I see it is, it doesn't matter if the band is studio musicians, or they didn't write the songs. They're all using their musical talent's to do what they love and to put on a great show to entertain us and as long as they all are credited with what they do I'm all for it. Also, have to give the girls credit for all the work they put in for the choreographed dances and moves.
You hit the nail on the head here. I don't think people stop to realize how much work goes into these shows. I hope you get to enjoy your show.
well said!
Sorry that I’m a year late. Akatsuki means daybreak or sunrise. Akai tsuki means crimson moon
Yes, yes indeed there's a guy behind this project, a producer named Kobayashi aka Kobametal, he's the one who put the whole puzzle together, but if you've thinking of something like Disney Channel you're definitely wrong, things didn't go that way.
First of all the guy is a real metal fan, though he ended up working with idols on J-Pop songs, he got SU into this, convinced Amuse about trying a single song in a different style, got YUI and MOA onboard and that's how an idol group, Sakura Gakuin ended up with a "weird" song in their first album, Doki★Doki Morning. From there it was a complicated path, Amuse didn't pour any more money, the first shows outside SG were small venues, they cannot even afford to pay for a real band, so they sang over backtracks. But it was working and Amuse had to rethink their priorities. So yeah, they conquered every single meter of their long path, no one, literally no one, except Kobametal of course, dared to dream about anything even close to what BABYMETAL became in just few years.
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First time I heard Doki Doki Morning listen to the CD in my car was like I love this song lol. You kinda bop around to the cuteness of their voices in the chorus, then want to headbang to the rest of the song.
How much credence can you give to a guy who can’t tell if a band is playing and singing live? None I think my answer is!
Yeah like what's a bigger giveaway that you don't know what you're watching. Feel free to hate the song itself but to not be able to tell that they're all playing live is embarrassing. Su doesn't even auto tune, and the Kami Band would be like the best mock guitarists in the world if they're just miming.
This guy really questioned if the band, including THE Takayoshi Ohmura, is really playing live. FYI, that dude will smoke 98% of today's metal guitarists.
Also made a conclusion of the group's entire being out of one song. what a joke lol
Yeah Ohmura is 🔥
Yeah, but he's written a book on how to write a guitar riff ... So being an expert he obviously knows what he's talking about !!
@@lookandlisten5740what a joke, right? this dude "writes books" claiming to be a "shredder" on youtube, instantly felt he can criticize virtuoso level guitarists like Ohmura, who has been shredding in the Japanese underground scene for decades, releasing multiple albums, playing with multiple artists (even instrumental tours with legends like Marty Friedman and Gus G), multiple ESP signature guitars (7 signatures so far if I am not mistaken), touring the world with Babymetal for 10 years, and still going. While this random internet dude has the audacity to claim the title "Shredmaster" lol
@@bons244 dang dude you Ain't Gotta Do him Dirty Like that 🤣
99% not 98% … Ohmura is unreal
It's neither. It's not a joke, but it's not a band either. It's a performance group. Like a heavy metal Broadway show. They have one guy, Kei Kobayashi, who is the producer, manager, and the guy who came up with the whole idea in the first place. This is his baby. Centered around the lead singer Suzuka Nakamoto. This specific performance was a Su-Metal solo. So There are actually 2 other members, making it a trio of girls ages 14-15 at the time of this performance in 2014, Yuimetal and Moametal. Su-Metal is the lead singer but the other two girls do dance routines and background vocals, have songs of their own as duets ironically labeled Black Babymetal, and are hype girls encouraging audience participation. This is at the beginning of their career and this song was considered a serious song among their usual repertoire of heavy but cute fun songs. To better understand Babymetal, you just react to a trio performance. Try Headbanger live, or Karate live. Their later albums tend to be a bit more mature in sound and their latest 2 single releases are a completely new sound for them. A preview of their upcoming concept album, The Other One. Check out Devine Attack.
I don't know why more people don't recognize this. I consider them to be a lot like the Trans Siberian Orchestra. They are a metal themed performance group... That are really good at what they do.
yea back in the day they might have been just a preformance group, today, they are a band
On point
More to the point the title of this video is over 10 years out of date and pretty much every criticism you had is the joke. Poor (zero) research, misinformed on every aspect of who and what they are, same old cliche crap opinions based on the same old suspicions of misinformed elitist gatekeepers that were disproved and put to bed so long ago.
"Manufactured ... girl with a pretty face ... blah blah blah" The whole concept was formed and developed around that pretty girl's vocal talents and stage presence (not her looks) by one metalhead producer who saw her potential and the chance with her to try something new, something that had not been done that might reinvigorate the stagnant metal and rock scene in Japan that was in a serious decline at that time. This was no corporation led thing based on a formula guaranteed to make money - quite the opposite, their agency thought it was the worst idea ever and provided no budget as they were convinced it would be a short-lived and failed experiment.
"Can't see the band hidden at the back..." just after Leda Cygnus and Takayoshi Ohmura had come out front of stage with their duelling guitars and all lights on BOH on bass accompanying the vocals. It was almost like you were primed to say that regardless of what actually happened during the performance.
I can't see why anybody would take any opinion you might offer seriously when you can't even tell when music is being played and sung live ... or maybe you're more used to listening to bands who need the help of the studio technicians and sound bad live.
As always, well said. The fact that he used click bait to get us to watch him already says something about his motives for making this reaction in the first place. How often have we seen over the years reacters instantly dismissing BM and then later on realize too late they are one of the most prolific bands on the planet that paved the way for many many other bands.
@@Codametal That's exactly right.
Maybe the Beatles caps are a joke too.
@@Codametal look at the titles for his other videos, he does the same thing with metallica, megadeth etc.
@@Tuvok_Shakur wow. All click bait. Oh well. I fell for it.
@@Codametal It's a provocative hyperbolic title, clickbait is when the video is not what's in the title
It's technically true. The name Babymetal is a whole pun gimmick that their producer came up with - in japanese pronounce - Babymetal: "Bebimetaru" - Heavymetal: "Hebimetaru"
@@captaincontent3343 yes, also that. But if you know how BM started... I think he didn't really think about that when creating Babtmetal, lol
Ah, another sceptic of Babymetal.... Were they manufactured? Yes they most absolutely were. They weren't some college buddies that got together in someone's garage and formed a band, and played shitty gigs until they got famous, as seems to be the only way most music purists seems to think a band can be true and real....These girls went through talent auditions, trained at an early age to sing and perform, and were promoted by a big record label. But does that take away their achievements? Hell no. If Koba/Amuse was planning on making money, Jpop with Metal would probably be the last thing they would put money in (not that Babymetal had a lot of funding to begin with, having to borrow clothes for costumes, and guys in skeleton suits pretending to play instruments while singing to a backtrack, and having to play in food courts for their early gigs).... Back then and even now, the genres that make mega money are R&B/Rap/Hip Hop or Pop. Personally I like to think of them as a handcrafted supergroup.
The producer Koba, wanted to refresh the metal scene, so he found the best young talented vocalist he can find (Su) and paired her with her two friends (Yui and Moa) who would be backup singers/dancers/hypewomen to get the crowd involved, and then found the best session musicians in Japan to form the Kamiband to back them up in live shows.... If you look at the some of the best guitarist, bassist, drummers in Japans rock/metal scene, you would find some of them have played in the Kamiband at one time or another.
Babymetal definitely kicked open the door for all the recent female Japanese metal/rock bands that has been making their way to the West..... I think Saki from Nemophila said in interview that Babymetal's success is what paved the road for female jrock/metal groups to have greater recognition overseas. And Babymetal is not what you would consider to be a traditional band... Lovebite, Band Maid, Aldious, TriDENT those are bands but Babymetal is a rock opera broadway show. Legend 1997 (not the year the concert was held, but the bday concert of Su who was born in 1997) and Legend S XX Baptism are the best examples of the rock show aspect of Babymetal.
I always find it rather funny how people like to equate being a "gimmick" as to be the opposite of being talented/good, especially in the music industry.... Sometimes a gimmick is whats needed to break the mold, look at KISS and Slipknot, though they might not be considered gimmick now, but their whole presentation and look was can definitely be seen as a gimmick when it started.... Babymetal is definitely a gimmick, but more than that, it was a handcrafted supergroup. Babymetal's metal creds were in question when they started, but having been defended, supported, toured with, and/or collaborated by the likes of Rob Zombie, Cory Taylor, Rob Halford, Red Hot Chili Pepper, Metallica, Sabaton, Bring Me The Horizon, their Metal cred is only questioned by a very small minority. Please continue exploring the rest of their stuff, you might not like all their stuff (as I fan, theres a few that I'm not that big on), but I'm sure there are some that you will appreciate. 🤘🦊🤘
"Handcrafted supergroup." That's a really good term, because that's exactly what they are.
I ironically love baby metal. It’s supposed to be ridiculous and man do they nail it! Lol. Plus you can’t deny the band, hooks, and production are amazing. Not everything has to be art or “say something”
Except that (to minisculey shallow me) Babymetal says _at_ _least_ as much to me as any other music does.
Go on; pick a feeling or emotion that Babymetal doesn't cover.
Yeah; all the negative ones. Hate. Dispare. Death. Loss. Right?
Um, except they do all that too. You just got googly eyes.
"I'm Turning Japanese" is a racist song from the 80's. Your mentioning it tells me all I need to know about you.
damn they sound good, as a guy who likes both power metal stuff and that japanese chord progression
Babymetal is everything you described but they are absolutely no joke. The whole reason for their creation was to save metal music in Japan. Sales of metal music were drastically horrible in Japan, causing the music industry to all but abandon the genre. There were still underground groups and such but the industry was having a really hard time selling the genre. The genre had been in decline for many years and the last truly big metal act was X Japan back in the late 80's and early 90's. Then came along Babymetal. They are a fusion of J-pop, idol and metal music. They did this so that a large number of different age ranges could listen to it and get an introduction into metal music without being overwhelmed by it. And guess what, it worked. Sales in the metal genre started to steadily increase. As the the band became better known and more mature sales increased more and more. This also came about because they don't just stick to one genre of metal, they have songs in about every sub genre of metal. But I would say Babymetal is best described as a top tier introduction to metal.
“the industry had a really hard time selling the genre”
this does not help your case though, it just means it was created for money and not for soul
They weren’t created to “save metal music” as they weren’t expected to become successful. You have bands like Dir en grey and the Gazette filling up Budokan and arenas, so while they’re not X Japan level, they’re solid.
@Fukyouwaon of course they never expected to be successful, but that never stopped them from trying. But yes the point of the band was to create a style of metal music that everybody could enjoy regardless of age. That is why they encompass all sub-genres of metal. They wanted to be a gateway or an introduction to metal so if the listener found a sound they enjoyed they could explore deeper into that sub-genre. Now when I talk about "they" I ultimately am referring to Koba the producer and creator of Babymetal. Now to the industry dying. Yes it very much so was. There were a few bands that could make it out there but they were becoming fewer and farther between. The genre was on a fast pace to its death, even here in the US the genre was on a slow decline with very little hope of being revived. There are tons of interviews out there of some of the biggest names in metal talking about the Babymetal phenomenon reviving the industry worldwide.
@@hp697c I don’t think the point of the group was to create a new style of metal that everyone could enjoy, at least at the beginning. Kobayashi had blended the things he likes together and let it unfold. The metal/rock industry isn’t what it used to be but if bands can sell out big venues, I’d call them successful.
From everything I've seen of Baby Metal live, they really are live and only use snippets of backing tracks when moving from A to B in a choreography moment and routine. Basically once she holds the mic to her mouth, she's singing for real and those guys playing in the background, it's all for real but yes there's often some sort of extra track weaved in but hey...I like it and this really isn't the best example of Baby Metal to sell them on. They have their own slot on the spectrum of metal.
They use backing tracks throughout the set. Keys, symphonic parts, effects and backing vocals.
Still a killer LIVE show.
@@BockwinkleB as do 75% (maybe more) of big bands out there
If you see a full live show, the backing band does get their limelight. Try listening to Rondo of Nightmare Live @ Budokan Black Night. When you say black babymetal, they did do some black metal songs. Even Metallica and Dragonforce promoted them. Herman from Dragonforce helped on one of their songs "road of resistance". Think back when they were starting out it was a gimmick. But as the singer/backing singers got older seems they are making the best of it.
Had a gimmick just like most popular metal bands i think in 12 years they proved that they are not a gimmick . Someone forgot to tell the girls they where supposed to be a gimmick because they worked there butt of for this success .
They could of being a huge success in Japan earlier if they went the Idol route and did JPop . 😁🤘🦊
The short answer to "Is Babymetal a joke or a legit metal band?" Is.... Neither... They aren't trying to be a "legit metal band". Their entire existence and purpose is to be just Babymetal. Whether a person enjoys them or not is purely up to the individual, but judging them on the same scale as a typical metal band is like judging a drift car as a daily commuter.... Surez its technically still a car, but thats the wrong criteria and its not trying to be a daily commuter.
I see a guy struggling hard to pretend like he didn't like it.
Maybe another closet fan who is trying to hide it from his metal friends. Good luck to him. Any music that makes you happy is worth listening and enjoying.
@@Codametal yeah, he's very obviously playing a character. It's kind of funny that he calls Babymetal out for being a performance but his entire channel is a performance. That isn't a real personality. I guess the character he created doesn't like Babymetal.
@@Jordan-Ramses And to generate subscribers and views. It's one way to do it.
They are not fake. They are the real thing pretending to be fake.
Really? So they DO write their own songs?
Who CARES?
@@gea5304 You're absolutely right. Who freakin' cares?>
@@DeadRingerMachine neither did Elvis. Nobody cares. Most hit songs aren't written by the people who sing them.
@@russellward4624 So... Baby metal is Elvis now? OK then.
Their started as a gimmick, they've been doing gimmick niche stuffs that could beyond acceptance of both "mainstream media" or "organic band" that no one thought would work, along with some serious innovation stuffs like unity between people, different kind of music fan (metal, pop,...), empowering, encouraging, get through hard time,... they don't stop creating diversity in their catalog, they don't stick to one genre... And they go all out 200% in their shows to make the audience feel it too - in fact, there's some clean up because that's from a pro-shot bluray, but they really sound THAT good Live. If you liaten to studio version of Akatsuki you'll see the difference.
Yeah I'd say they're a musical act that does something beyond a normal band do, they could do something silly but they do it seriously so they made that big and last that long, with all those love and acceptance of other metal bands around the world, and there's no other manufacturered group managed to do it.
The best way to describe BABYMETAL is anime metal with a touch of Visual Kei. They are actually a very diverse kind of heavy metal performance act that combines anime styled pop singing with thrash, speed metal, power metal, and death metal. In Japan, much of the concerts in this style are very elaborate and visually impressive as well as very well choreographed. One cannot underestimate the technical proficiency and accuracy of their music and how talented the band is despite the name. They have some of the most gifted guitarists and drummers on the planet who could easily compete if not completely overtake some of the top metal bands today. If Babymetal had a different name and featured your typical metal vocalists, they would already have reached critical acclaim as one of metal's greatest acts... BABYMETAL IS THE REAL DEAL!!!
Dude you are really overdoing the clickbait video titles.... 🤕
Speaking of sell-outs...
The band is very much real and are excellent musicians. The guitarist with the pink guitar Ohmura Takayoshi, is one of Marty Friedman's prodigy and used to back him up in his solo band live performances.
HE HE SAID RAMMSTEIN!!!!!!!
I did look forward to this and I wasn’t disappointed! They’re definitely not a joke but, as a band, they do have a sense of humor. I think a lot of the other commenters here have the skinny on it better than I could do I’ll start by saying that, yes, Su-Metal is definitely singing live here and she’s been doing that since on or about 2012, I think. Someone correct me if I’m wrong. They did start off lip syncing in their earlier days and had a “band” on stage called Babybone. Basically a bunch of people dressed up in skeleton suits. That same skeleton keeps showing up in their marketing stuff which is hilarious. The live band is definitely playing. In this clip, you’re seeing Hideki Aoyama on the drums, the guy with the paddle bass, or six string bass, is BOH. The two guitar players? Leda Cygnus and Takayoshi Ohmura. The latter is the one with the sparkle pink guitar. The former did the guitar solo on the studio recording of this song. Leda also played guitar and bass on “Amore” which is on their second album. He also played bass on “Road of Resistance” which, if you think it sounds like Dragonforce, you’d be partly right because Herman Li and Sam Toteman did the guitars on that one.
Funny story about that. Herman, in two Twitch sessions, said that him and Sam didn’t think they were going to play that song live so they made it difficult. They did have to play it live so they had to go relearn it. Lol
Interesting that you say “Black Babymetal” when you saw the Kami Band face paint. Black Babymetal is a thing. It was a subunit of Babymetal with the two other members around this era. “Akatsuki” is one of Su-Metal’s solo songs. Black Babymetal is Yuimetal and Moametal doing songs on their own. “4 no Uta” has a lovely homage to Metallica. They even did a black metal one called “Sis Anger”. I told you this band has a sense of humor! Lol
Speaking of Metallica, they opened for them in Seoul in 2017. Right before they opened for Guns N’ Roses in Japan.
Babymetal itself started off as a subunit of Sakura Gakuin before it just went off on its own.
I like that you mentioned Marty Friedman here because he was one of Babymetal’s earliest supporters. Fun fact: Takayoshi Ohmura played in Marty Friedman’s band.
I thought what you said about chemistry was interesting, too. Most people, at first blush, come away with that impression because they don’t know their shtick. Their whole gimmick is that the Fox God sent the members of Babymetal to unite the world through heavy metal. The Kami Band, or God Band, was sent by the Fox God to assist them. They’re more or less supposed to be anonymous in shows. But fans love them. If you do want to see them have chemistry and interact with their band, check out their performance at the 2016 AP Awards. They did a Priest medley with Rob Halford. Yuimetal and Moametal had these little Flying Vs and they “jammed” with the two guitar players. That configiwas with Takayoshi Ohmura and the late great Mikio Fujioka. Moa and Yui weren’t really playing for most of the medley but I didn’t care. Everyone looked like they were having a blast. I do suspect they played the first two bars of “Breaking The Law” before the band took over. That’s as odd the cuff as you’re going to get with Babymetal.
Check out “Tales of the Destinies” sometime. It’s like Frozen meets Dream Theater. So many crazy time signature changes in that one. And a few other surprises.
Su always sang live , Yui and Moa did not always to much dancing .
😁🤘🦊
There was alot of humor in the earlier days. We used to say they have Doki Doki Morning because of Uki Uku Midnight. It's tongue in cheek and humor was a definite thing for them to not take themselves 'too' seriously. After all, it was never done before, so why not have fun with it? The entire new genre they created was a completely blank canvas. Who's to say they're doing anything wrong? Ha ha!
I feel sorry for the girls in a way for deciding to go metal because some of the most narcissistic people on the planet are metalheads imo. Clearly those rebellious teenagers never matured so their fragile toxic masculinity is threatened by fiercely adorable but monster metal girls (now admirable and stunning ladies) who have more natural talent, professional work ethic and impeccable manners. This fading dinosaur should be thrown on the front line and we'll see what kind of badass he is. I won't expect him to stay in the fight and cover my flank if we're about to be over ran. But I get why he has such a high opinion of himself. He is obviously a legend in the metal world and that speaks volumes. We don't deserve Babymetal and he is proof of that. Oh and the girls have been singing live vocals long before they joined Babymetal. I think westerners are just not used to this kind of talent.
@@timrose3960 Well, what alot of people don't understand is that all Japanese music (and anime, toys, gadgets, etch...) created was created solely for a Japanese crowd, period. They never have aspirations of going international (nor do they care to). Babymetal was already popular for years before they did their first western performance at Sonisphere. And there were already fans of the girls when they were in Sakura Gakuin. Their first foray outside of Japan was Singapore at an anime convention, and people already knew who they were when they did their first meet and greet.
There might be a little bit of jealousy in his opinion though. After all, who wouldn't be jealous of being part of a band who was invited to play at the prestigious Budokan. And being the youngest members ever to perform there? Or play to two sold out consecutive days with different setlists at the Tokyo Dome with 55k fans each night? There's lots to be jealous about. He was too quick to pass judgement and created false exposition to cover it up. They aren't a 'garage' band, but they've had their share of performing at malls and festivals and borrowed clothes to get to where they're at. It's a bit narrow minded for him to think that all 'commercialized' artist were fed with a silver spoon. He should strive to broaden his horizons. But I also do understand not all people want to be enlightened because they want to continue to live in the little world they created around them for themselves. I hope he will see how the world of music is much bigger than what little he's seen or experienced. BM is one of those who won't fit into (or even try to) a mold people want to see them as. I'm patient enough to see if he does more BM reactions. Like many people, he might be one of those diehard converts that takes a long time to acknowledge them as a metal band. (now, where have I heard that before?)
@@Codametal you're right and well said Edmund. I'm a new fan but I know Su had a fan base 2 years before Kobe created his experimental heavy music sub unit. I know Karen's girls was popular and sold a lot of CDs. I saw the interview when Su was asked about what was it like after BMs first sold out Arena show? She replied: "great!.....but this isn't my first time performing here." I know about her professional modeling , singing, dancing and acting credentials. I know the loneliness was the worst part for her in those years she traveled to Tokyo for Amuse. I know ASH was after school and on the weekends. Suzuka Nakamoto is a role model and has earned the most respect but this "very popular" metalhead will never know any of this because he is overly confident that BM is the joke, not him. I was raised to defend a megitsune so I'm just done my job. Plus BBM already has a song about this guy but don't perform it anymore so clearly they've moved on from such "bastards". If only he knew!
I don't have problems with the manufacturish nature of BABYMETAL. Instead of having the band writing the music it is their producer yeah. And their team is larger and more specific; people dedicated only to the performance and the show, people dedicated to write a couple of songs per album instead of being the players themselves... I think it just make for a better quality of the whole thing, everyone is an expert at what they do.
And don't you think they had this production at first, no one gave a fuck about this crazy idea at first and they had to fight some years until they started to get attention. They started this group twelve years ago, when this girls were only 12 and 11.
But yeah I find it is something not for everyones taste. Personally I was pretty bored of the same metal as always until I found them, but I bet a lot of you are already comfortable enjoying the current metalscape so BABYMETAL is making yourselves go out of your way.
Babymetal is love, Babymetal is life.
That's what i'd rather my kids listen to instead of wap crap and charts radio pop/rap hits.
I don't like all their songs but for the most part i enjoy listening to them.
Shred now doing bait vids
I definitely like the channel and think Shred is funny. However the clickbait stuff seems to be all I ever see anymore, and I've watched fewer as a result. Dude is funny though so I'm not hating. His ear is amazing.
I'm a huge BABYMETAL fan, but I also understand all your criticism. Sure, they are a completely manufactured band, but the music is masterfully crafted and a breath of fresh air from all the modern bands that seem indistinguishable from one another. You talk about band unity and how the band doesn't interact with the girls so much, which is true, but when all three girls are on stage, the unity between them is amazing. The dancing mixed with metal mixed with genre mashing songs is what truly makes BABYMETAL special in my opinion.
They interact with each other all the time. Su-metal gives queues to the drummer all the time, Moametal is always making faces at the drummer and Su-metal, and Moametal and Yuimetal gives each other signals all the time. Yuimetal is the shy one, so most of the time she is just stoic, hence the nickname Yuibot. But Moametal is the extrovert of the three and she's always having fun on stage.
But here's one thing I haven't seen mentioned here. I came from the pop side of music. Babymetal exposed me to the metal genre and I've come to appreciate the musical talent those performers have.
Listening to that song, I wouldn't say it's masterfully crafted. FAR from it, it sounds like any other mediocre symphonic metal slag to me. A nasally singer with precious little character to her voice. Trem picking that all but completely obscures the notes and guitar tone, which is also all but obscured by the incessant double bass, which is the hallmark of an unimaginative drummer and unimaginative song writers. There are ZERO hooks in this song, nothing whatsoever to remember about it. Bottom line, there is no substance here. Which is what Shred, in his ineloquent way, is trying to say.
This is a solo from Su and basically a power ballad. To really get the full Babymetal experience you need to see a performance with all 3 girls. I would recommend Headbanger (specifically from their Legend 1997 tour when Su had just turned 16 and the other 2 girls were 14 years old commanding 10s of thousands of fans) or Road of Resistance.
Yeah, don't sell your soul for marketing you said... while you are here offering discounted tab lessons in a Patreon requested and paid video.
Definitely playing and singing live my dude. They're pretty rigid about finding talented people and there is an abundance of talent in Japan. A lot of competition. That's my understanding of it, but I am definitely no expert.
Hes just trying to make excuses on why its bad and he doesnt like it. One thing is not liking it another is downplaying it. This guy us honestly a joke, he did no research beforehand and made a big statement after hearing 1 song.
@@marcosr666 Indeed. Judging a band by one song is like judging chinese cuisine by eating a dumpling :P
@@marcosr666 yeah, as if his whole RUclips persona isn't manufactured. Guess if it's working for him.
@@gslinger19 Lol, excellent point!
@@gslinger19 I'm having a great time reading comments here.. and yours plus a couple others nailed it. How ironic is it that a person who has a manufactured metalhead look should complain about something he finds "manufactured" LOL
And your opinion on how it affects the 11 years of the band's trajectory and the millions they generate, my recommendation is to investigate a little more about the bands that you are going to react with how easy it is now to investigate just putting babymetal on google but I understand the concept of your channel which is to generate controversy and views because if we are realistic you are just a person sitting at your computer criticizing groups of which you have only heard one song and that you think you have all the musical knowledge but you know well that if it were not you would be making youtube videos of reactions.
How can a band that is a joke continue to exist for 12 years? Even if they are well-funded or have superb marketing skills, if the singer or band doesn't have talent and appeal, who would accept such a thing, lol, and such a project would be gone in less than a year.
They sing and play live.
The Japanese are a proud nation, they'd never stoop so low as to lip synch. She is singing live. If you hear the live versions in comparison to the album version you'd be able to tell the difference.
Actually they do do a bit of lip syncing.
Documented here...
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lDQ-B7yWYl6XxO8LZg4zWMYjXgapr2j8rmC19MZTsmY/edit?usp=drivesdk
Thank You for giving them a listen. The musicians are A+ and the singer has great clean vocals. Some people dont like clean vocals with Metal. The singer started out doing Anime music at like 8 years old, so it has an Anime feel to it.
You're right. MANY people say it's heavy as h-ll if Su-metal isn't singing. But as soon as she sings, it throws them for a loop and suddenly the mouse fell off its wheel and their mind doesn't know what to do.
All the big metal bands today have writers, producers, record labels and marketing groups behind them.
All bands are a product, I don't understand why Babymetal is criticized for that
To think that metal bands are just 4 friends who got together to have fun and write some songs is a very childish or very innocent view of the music industry.
shhh...dont burst his little bubble...
2 of the best shows I've ever seen were Babymetal shows, one festival where everyone came to thier stage and a club show.
Great band, great singer, great production.
It's kind of funny to see a guy who does mostly clickbait video titles and thumbnails having issues about people selling out. But yes BABYMETAL is full on manufactured band/group but that really doesn't bother me personally since the music is really good and their shows are awesome.
And what he didn't know is that the band was manufactured around HER, not the band. It's entertaining to see reacters talk about something they think they know about but just making themselves look foolish.
In a way BABYMETAL is a joke. This is how you write HEAVYMETAL in Japanese:
ヘビーメタル [hebimetaru]
And this is how you write BABYMETAL:
ベビーメタル [bebimetaru]
So, probably inspiration for this project came from a tiny difference between ヘ and ベ :)
little that he know, Babymetal doesn't start big. their first summer sonic stage was a small side stage at the food hall. lol
oh, and their first "real" solo debut was at Meguro Rokumeikan, a small venue in Tokyo with a lot of history of metal scene in Japan
If you are not sure if they are actually playing I suggest you check out 'Rondo of Nightmare (w/ Mischiefs of Metal Gods Intro) which was also at Budokan. Some of the most talented session players I've ever seen.
This reaction is a JOKE!!!!
To be fair metal has always been about the gimmick as well as the music
I'm a 46 yr old O.G. from So-Cal and I LOVE BABYMETAL
saw them twice in concert , thanks to my job working concerts
been a fan for 8 years
saw BAND-MAID and now waiting on HANABIE
You're an "O.G." who listens to babymetal lol O.G. in your case stands for Obviously Gay
You definitely should of did a differnt song. That was a solo performance by Su not actually the group. Funny you said baby black metal... that is a thing lol. The other 2 Moa and Yui without Su is black baby metal. Baby metal are what they are. Everything is written for them and sessions players are brought in to record and for touring. They are indeed 100% manufactured. I seen them when they came to the US. It was a very cool show however I've watched a lot of their videos, their show is 100% choreographed. Which seeing all those videos made the show a bit of a let down, In a live situation you want to see some spontaneity. Avatar opened for them. I never heard them before that, they were amazing live. As much as I like baby metal, avatar definitely stole the show that night.
2:53 Shred trying to pretend like he doesn't watch anime on the daily
Babymetal is a group of young post-teen girls who sing and dance pretty well; and a metal producer who goes by the name Kobametal. They all are signed to a company - Amuse Talent Agency. So, even if i do like the music(which i do) I can't connect with the writer and producer of the songs as I would have if this was 5-6 piece band. This does create a separation btw the artist and the listener which puts off many people. I think Babymetal should not be compared to any other metal band or such as it not a typical band.
even i know your opinion is also just a gimmick 😂
well, whatever ... they still have so many fans
Good reaction and welcome to the Babymetal galaxy. It is normal that something may not like or convince you. There is nothing wrong with that. But Babymetal is a hard group to define.
Babymetal's style is known as "Kawaii Metal or Cute Metal" and they are its creators. It is based on the fusion of any genre of metal with pop, thus always giving very energetic songs, generally heavy and full of joy. It is very difficult not to finish watching or listening to a Babymetal song without a smile on your face.
They currently have 3 albums:
1- Babymetal, where they were between 12 and 15 years old, so you can find songs that could easily be defined as children's.
2.- Metal Resistance: between 16 and 18 years old. In this album you can find both the spirit of the early days and the progress towards maturity as a group and as individuals.
3.- Metal Galaxy: 19+ where his music, without losing its essence of energy and joy, already has, in my opinion, a marked musical maturity.
They are currently presenting their fourth album, called "The Other One" where they have only presented one song called "Divine Attack", but of course if the quality is this, it promises a lot.
BABYMETAL actually released a second song from their upcoming album several days ago. It's called Monochrome. Amazing song, better than Divine Attack in my opinion.
It's a guitar 'duet', not 'duel'. One letter make the difference!
The guitarist with the pink guitar plays in Marty Friedman's band. The vocalist actually has writing credits on their new song. She was only 16 here. She's almost 25 now. The thing about Babymetal is all their songs sound different. You would just have to listen to see which ones you like.
I think your more of Tales of Destinies type of guy.. Karate has a nice guitar riff and Rondo of Nightmare has beautifully demented chords.
Your 14 years too late. Baby Metal is Metal.
Incredibly dumb how you even think about saying that they might not be playing and that she might not be singing. Like be for real, they are very talented musicians and she's a talented singer.
There is a dinamic between the band and the girls, u just cant rlly see it on this song.
A band that is different vs so many bands with the same sound or style the problem in this world most people refuse to accept change or variety or something different it’s like it’s frowned upon
"to me it sounds like the opening of an anime."
..well yes. that's the whole point. that's what i love about it xD
Chuckling myself from all the comments. See, here's a RUclipsr complaining about a "manufactured" group, which is all fine. Except that to market himself as a metal guitarist worth paying for lessons, he feels compelled to wear aviator sunglasses, long hair, sport a beard and porn stache, basically an image reminiscent of many (ehem) manufactured metal bands.
What a joke LOL
I'm hearing some Macho Man Randy Savage in his act.
Live being there they are even better . Seen them live few times and i have seen bands likec Iron Maiden, AC-DC and i think BabyMetal edged it as the best live i have seen . Look up a recently uploaded reaction from . Pictures, Noise, Words for Divine Attack a new single by them maybe explains what BabyMetal is really well . 😁🤘🦊🤘
Su sings live she is just that good 😁
Babymetal is metal.
NO GLASSES...NO BEARD...NO LONG HAIR...AND ITS pee-wee Herman tryin to look cool.😂😂😂
7:45 Black Babymetal actually exists, there are some few songs that doesn’t feature the main singer, those songs are the heaviest thing Babymetal has so, it was curious you mentioned that name
It's actually my favorite part of BabyMetal. Too bad Yui Mizono left.
Hey what a surprise you did a full reaction to one of their songs(even though its a patreon request).😂
And thank you for expressing your opinion regarding team babymetal, it gets people subscribed to your channel a chance to hear about them and hopefully give them a chance by exploring this group for themselves and form their own opinion.😊
8:24 the burp 💀💀💀
I don't take them too seriously. It is a gimmick, but I think it's a cool gimmick. It's like opera. The people didn't write it, but you can still appreciate the opera. Same thing with plays or movies. It's just another form of entertainment. They aren't trying to pass off as 100% legitimate band. It's supposed to just be a gimmick really.
Agreed, one of Babymetals best traits is that they are self aware... They know what they are and they own it.
@@irodama actually there's more interaction on stage than you know, but on their big/official shows they keep that very subtle that hard to notice - gotta keep it professional for the pro-shots which they will sell later (like the famous Moa's shenanigans), there are whole lot more in their world tour with small venues
I don’t mind the ”corporate” side of it. I mean, good music is good music! And since they put on like Rammstein level production live and I really enjoy power metal it just makes it amazing! One of the few bands that I think allways plays better live than their studio version!
They have acually started to write more themselves! Su is like 25 now so probably easier to write songs compared to when you’re 15 haha:)
Rock stars and pop artists with BABYMETAL Part 1 (and each artist's music)
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Rock stars and pop artists with BABYMETAL Part 2 (and each artist's music)
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When Jeff Walker from Carcass says the highlight of a concert festival was seeing and meeting Babymetal, they have been given the metal cred they need. They are the "little sisters" of many of the metal bands they've toured with and the bands will defend them and protect them as one of their own. ruclips.net/video/2rMWq8w45jk/видео.html
I love BabyMetal they're my favorite group. Can't wait to see them live again. 👍
Nice honest reaction Shred and to some extent, I was like you initially. Bear in mind that you are not their target audience and they were originally conceived to attract young fans to the metal genre, particularly young female fans, by easing them in with a Pop influence. They succeeded with aplomb and brought along with them a whole army of fans World wide. To appreciate BM, you need to forget your idea of what metal ‘has to be’ and just see what their body of work entails. They cover so many different genres that some may appeal and, in your case, most probably won’t, particularly their earlier ‘childish’ songs, but their music is solid, the band is amazing and the girls are incredible performers. The best way that I can describe BM is that they’re not a band, they are performance art. They are metal without the aggression and negativity and package it into a completely new concept. Bottom line, they’re just good fun.
Band Members here are:
Leda Cygnus (V Guitar)
Bohte "BOH" Saisuke (Bass)
Hideki Aoyama (Drums)
Takayoshi Ohmura (twinkle pink guitar)
Babymetal's song "Road of Resistance" was recorded by Dragonforce guitarists Sam Totman and Herman Li.
Mixed and mastered by Ettore Rigotti of Disarmonia Mundi.
he's not taking into account, underneath the lights the flames the thundering music, and phenomenal bass/drums and technically superb guitars, they are still japanese, and japan is a wholly different strange ancient world apart from anything on earth. and they are no joke.
You just mention Black Babymetal...wow
Fun reaction. And a little unsuspecting, out of time. Maybe in 2010, 2011, when the project started, there was some reason for this matter... But in 2016, the date of the video you reacted to, they are already established, without any concern for this type of thing.. these "non-metals" already put whole arenas jumping and screaming "death! death! death!", or the same arenas jumping and clapping as they sang "hey satan, I'm here! follow my claps!"...
Beautifully written and arranged songs, top quality musicians, beautifully executed and choreographed performances, fantastic productions and sensational audiences with a solid fan base.
Babymetal is unique.
Our 'smurf' queen always sing live. There's black babymetal indeed. Go check it out. You know, I can say about the Beatles just like what you said about babymetal
Ps: check their full trinity formation before conclude about bm
Sorry to say.... but seens like you are creating clickbait for views....but we understands....
And btw this was 100% live. (Not a best concert but it was live. no matter what you think)
Its hard for me to believe that Someone doesnt know BabyMetal in 2022. They were the Biggest THING in Metal in 2018 and 2019. and JinJer
Scott, you should check out Unlucky Morpheus. Especially the live version of Black Pentagram, or their live cover of Eruption and Dance of Eternity.
BABYMETAL's lead vocalist Suzuka (Su-metal) was 17 in this video. She is now 24. Her height is 5ft. 3 ins! All BABYMETAL songs are different. If you really want to form an honest objective opinion you really should try a few more. How about a more recent performance by "grown up" BABYMETAL (all three girls!) with their epic arena anthem "Arkadia" ruclips.net/video/81lxs2xlcGY/видео.html
Trust me, the musicians are 100% live and Su-metal never lip-sincs. The reason they sound so polished is that all the band are world-class players and BABYMETAL have been performing for 12 years now. Yes, BABYMETAL employ Japan's top metal songwiters but Su-metal is now contributing lyrics and BABYMETAL have done collab songs with DragonForce, Bring Me The Horizon and Polyphia, who are all big BABYMETAL supporters: as are Rob Halford, Corey Taylor, Korn AND Metallica, plus many other big names.
They say BABYMETAL are legit, are they really all wrong and you're right? :)
6:49 she's definitely singing and they don't use much manipulation on her voice at all. However, I'll agree that this is very much popmetal and there's zero connection with the band. The band is technically excellent and the writing is great, but it's soulless on stage. There just robots supporting the vocalist. She's a hell of a vocalist but it's not something I'd ever seek out or call great metal.