Ep9: ENGINE REMOVAL On A 70 Year Old London Double Decker Bus
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- Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024
- In this episode we continue working on our latest restoration project - RT2629 is London double decker bus built in 1951. Looks like we have our work cut out restoring this 70 year old London Bus as we struggle to get the engine out of the bus!
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Hello guys I'm collin from Liverpool in the UK I love what you guys do most of all the old classic buses from the 60s
Great chanal guys
Nice one!. That is one big lump of an engine. Can't wait to see the strip down and condition of the head internals.
Got your hands full there boys. Wow.
Fantastic work by a great team.
Really enjoying these videos.
Bravo, chaps! 👏🏻
The engine was swapped on that in about 1988-ish and it didn't move much after that. Possibly the pins were new then. Good to see you making serious progress with the old girl, looking forward to seeing her back on the road.
Reported that the engine had come from Cravens Bodied RT1420 at some time, had it been swapped again ?
Hello and welcome to another R2D2C3PO video
Yet another fantastic video fellas, we met at Alperton Open, (closed day). They don't mention all this hard work in the BTF film "One for One". In the film, the Thames Trader lorry from Chiswick arrives at Hounslow Garage with the re con engine, (I am told engines were changed on a different rota from the visit to Aldenham which mainly was for body work). The blokes pull the old engine out using the "Iron Man", that engine goes on the lorry back to Chiswick to be overhauled. I know that at Westbourne Park Garage, there is still the overhead rail, now disused, which used to carry engines and gear boxes from the lorry parked in the Goods Inward bay to the Dock area, (new X Garage did not run RT's but the principle still applied to RM's.
Hi,It is always a good idea to go as far as you can with maintenance while the engine is out,because hopefully they do not come out very often.I am looking forward to watching the engine strip down.cheers Roly 🇬🇧.
Another good video, very interesting to watch
Another great video....can't wait to see this engine being stripped and gaskets and seals replaced and finally painted 👍
Another enjoyable video. What you forgot to mention is that in Aldenham the body would have been removed for work on the chassis and engine so what you have just done would have been much easier. Looking forwards to the engine work video.
Certainly for overhaul, but plenty of engine changes done at the larger "engineering" garages
Great as never seen an RT’s engine removed, some interesting engineering went on at the old Aldenham Works, keep up the good work. See you all soon 👍.
Me neither Jack, very interesting how it was done. I would have liked to have seen the original jigs they would have used!.
@@jammiedodger629 Wondering what happened to all those skilled workers at Aldenham Works and all that equipment?.
@@jacksugden8190 Aww mate, sad to say it but they're probably all enjoying the twilight of retirement or sadly long gone.
Like everything, the equipment was probably sold for scrap, with no one realising how valuable and specialised it was, or it might be today.
It's great to see these lads restoring the old girl though, really heartwarming. Sitting here with a cuppa and some biccies enjoying the videos!! :)
Nice ,new to V Turnham Green and a coronation bus based at Hounslow AV Park Royal body when new ,I think now it’s a weymann body last overhauled in September 1967 the month my mummy was told I was on my way 👍🏻or in build hehe 😂 ,she’s going to look great ,cheers,Mark
Brilliant video, many thanks,
Brilliant
Yet again a very enjoyable film. Keep up the good work gentlemen.
Looking forward to seeing you next film. 👍
Such craftmanship getting the engine out of the bus, and having to make that part to do it! It's so interesting to watch these videos about the iconic RT bus. Many thanks for this enjoyment to watch.
Absolutely love all this, looking forward to the engine refresh, Macfly??? Seriously?
Enjoyed that and the glyndyfrdwy show what a great weekend 32 buses on display and all thanks to yourself and your team looking forward to next year 😀
Absolutely love these videos guys 😘
Great to see you working on the RT.
Great video as usual, 2 weeks is a long time to wait until the next installment.
Absolutely brilliant again guys.
LOLER and PUWER in effect 🤣🤣
Great video, looking forward to the next stage. 👍
Your explanation of a dynamo and an alternator is correct although an alternator produces AC that’s rectified to DC and a dynamo produces Pure DC
Another wonderful video .. thanks for showing us how you took out that lump of an engine .
Right back too the RT
Hello guys thank you for another video I really enjoyed watching as always. It is really interesting to see how both theRT andRM are different mechanically. I shall look forward to the next video keep up the excellent work that all you guys are doing.
I love thought old buses they do not build them like that any more thumbs up
A dynamo only supply's direct current, which is also dependant on engine speed, more RPM's more current, an alternator supply's alternating current. (hence the name) and then rectifies it to direct current, at a constant voltage.
We always removed the wing first it made it a lot easier on old half cabs, never try to undo the wing bolts tighten the until the snap, never removed shackles we had 2 AEC s about 20 Leylands we just called them London deckers, plus all our Leyland PD 1 and PD 2s, at the (real)
BartoN Transport Ltd Chilwell Notts, this company was a bus enthusiasts dream, mixed fleet , not over worked with decent owners, I did running repairs Breakdown-recovery local and distance, also part time coach driving, I worked there until the end,, Thatchers policy's finished a wonderful old fashioned company,, Bill Redfern,,
Another great and very interesting episode, looking forward to follow your progress with this one.
Great work as always. I like all your vids but TBH i do prefer the RT vids. Put it this way, if i won the lottery tomorrow i would be looking for an RT first, well before an RM/L.
Hope you guys are all well and keep making great content.
Fascinating seeing such an old vehicle being worked on and modern tools like the cordless rattle gun being used on it. It makes you wonder what was used as standard to work on them in their day.
Spanners, sockets, ratchets, and breaker bars.....
@@stefanobio7045 Metal tools. Who'd have imagined?
@@jamesfrench7299 The "old school" way.......
Another great video that is entertaining and informative. And as always I find your natural delivery style very refreshing. Good Luck to you all with this project and I look forward to the next episodes.
A Dynamo outputs DC, an alternator outputs AC, which is then rectified to DC.
A fair point about how much easier it is to remove an RM engines. Another way of looking at it is that I believe the entire body lifts of an RT, presumably giving decent access to engine in situ. Obviously this isn't a practical approach without the Aldenham crane but I do have a curiosity as to how involved it was separating the two. One might argue that the RM was a step back in this regard!
roll on the next part
I know on motorcycle engines the gasket between the crankcase and the cylinder block is a base gasket.
Anyone else feel the urge to take a whizz when Tim drained the radiator🥴
I have never owned a routemaster as I work for citysightseeing Belfast and I own a Mercedes’ vintage bus I don’t know what model is it but I do know who made it which is the vehicle you can see on the profile I have been learning a lot on fixing buses because of your channel as well back in 10th May 2021 I had to rebuild my engine and replace the radiator spark plugs and and the fuel tanks it took me a month to rebuild and then later on I tried to start it up and then it choked for 30 minutes it took 3 hours for me to get it to start and then it started and then I reved it and it notched 6 times as it does that if revving it still runs thanks to yous
both create a potential difference , a dynamo uses permanent magnets to create the PD , an alternator requires an exciter voltage to create the magnetic field so when it is turned it can also create a PD , alternators create alternating current and dynamos usually direct current , thus an alternator requires a bridge diode and regulator to be useful for motor vehicles , alternators can have a higher output and more than one phase , much more useful
Loving the videos I have always had a soft spot for the RT. Did you know the reason that only a small number of RTs were produced before the outbreak of WW2? The reason for this was the Wilson pre-selector gear box it was German! Once the war was over the gearboxes were available and the majority of the RTs were produced in the late 40s early 50s. Whilst the war was on Adolf was slinging the pre-selector’s into their Demag one ton halftracks and the sdkfz 250 APC.
I thought it was the Bosch rotary compressor that was the problem,, very German, originally a shaft driven rotary compressor, but later a Clayton piston type driven by belts, and combined with opposing belts driven dynamo, lots of mods between the 2RT and the 3RT, but what a bus, the largest standardised bus ever built, over 7000 made, including the Leyland variants, more than the Routemaster, shame no SRT types remain, a Super STL fitted with an RT body, with FJJ and FXT registrations.
Crankcase gasket Dave :)
exactly
Working on RMs are so much easier to work on
Hello
You are doing a wonderful job of restoring these old buses! I like your videos.
I found one old double decker bus and want to buy it for one of my projects. This bus has been abandoned for many years. There are no seats, someone used it for other purposes, perhaps as a mobile shop. I would like to consult with you on several issues. Can I get in touch with you somehow? I would appreciate your advice.
Another great video, really enjoying learning about the RT.
What does the future hold when she’s finished ? Will she join the fleet ?
Now I have to go to the washroom 🍺
I noticed that on this bus ice cube juice drained out straight away unlike the route masters where Tim has to go long to catch the ice cube juice.
Removing the front shackle pins seems a lot of faff to do the job. I recall helping change an engine on an RT (no names, no pack drill!) back in the 70s on the flat, outside, with only the aid of an ancient "iron man" and a genuine lifting rig. I don't think any H & S folk would have approved!
hi, great video,the AEC 9.6 engine was a great engine along with the 11.3,look forward to seeing the engine all cleaned up with new oil etc.the rockers do look a bit grimey and dirty..will you make up an air cleaner to fit ? and will the injector pump and injectors be sent for overhaul ? ex AEC.
Nice video my first time watching u work on the bus just quick question why not take the passenger side mudguard off so u could given u a little more room to get to engine ?
a Dynamo creates direct current .. an alternator creates alternating current .. and a dynamo's current output rises with revs , whereas an alternators output is pretty level
Not really. Both create alternating current. The differences are mainly in the use of permanent magnets vs. electromagnets and the use of a mechanical rectifier vs. an electronic rectifier.
An alternator produces alternating current and a dynamo produces direct current. Simple it is in the name.
Could it have been easier to remove the sump, avoiding to lower the chassis?
I'd guessing the engine wasn't designed to come out with the body in situ and would have been removed whenever they went back to aldernam for overhaul.
Pump it up was by endor
Hi Guy's my name is Mr C. T. Boxill-Harris I was wondering, why coudn't you find a nice fresh shiny Leyland Titan B15's and Repaint them to a Grey Green Color's just like the original Scania Grey Green's which were in the East London bus route's such as 125, 313, 173, 167 and also the bus route 103, if you guy would like to find about 14 Leyland Titan B15's, please could you Repaint them in the Exact Grey Green Bus Color's for us because it would be a Very Very Very Very Interesting Buses to see them Repainted to a Grey Green Color's and I'am a Big Fan of all of the Leyland Titan B15's😉😉😉😄😄
Couldn't see what was going on most of the time - view was blocked.
Could this be the actual bus that featured in the movie "Summer Holiday" ( which surely needs no introduction!) as contrary to popular belief that it was a Routemaster that featured in the movie which is incorrect as actually it was an RT like this & also scenes for the movie were shot at Aldenham Is this the actual bus featured in " SUMMER HOLIDAY"? If not what is the RT number of the summer holiday RT & where is it now?
From Wiki...
Associated British Picture Corporation of Elstree actually bought three used RTs (RT2305 (KGU334), RT2366 (KGU395), and RT4326 (NLE990)) from London Transport. They were all converted to look like RT1881 (with a fake registration number: WLB991) for filming different segments.
Gordon Bennette you had to read a manual to do that
LYF 354 looks like it's the original registration plate for this chassis. Do you know whether that's the case?
BTW, have you ever done a green LT bus, or don't they come up very often?
If it's not Red, keep it in the shed😎
Possibly not the original number, LT swapped things about.
No bus had the same chassis and bodies when RT's went for overhaul they lost their identity when they were cleaned and then body and chassis were removed and overhauled at Aldenham when all refitted tested then sprayed as good as new they were given a new identity as every RT was nearly interchangeable a Great process their is a you tube video that dates back to the 1950s called Overhaul that shows the process
The green version for outer services have a higher speed axle as I was able to tell in a video as the bus had a fair turn of speed in each gear compared to the red ones.
Generally the registration number stayed with the chassis, the RT number with the body, but sometimes by mistake the reg was put on the wrong chassis during an overhaul. Often only discovered if the bus was sold and the reg and chassis numbers no longer matched the registration document. LT had a dispensation regarding engine numbers not being recorded on the Reg document.
That engine lift looks marginal for an engine of that weight.
The oldest joke that I know is: A British engine only stops leaking oil when it is out of oil !