8 Bells Lecture | Sandy Grimes: Circle of Treason

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  • Опубликовано: 25 дек 2024

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  • @DrogoBaggins987
    @DrogoBaggins987 4 года назад +6

    Fascinating talk. Usually I can't stand the questions section but this one I watched all the way through.

  • @stevenwiederholt7000
    @stevenwiederholt7000 5 лет назад +27

    When I was much younger (when dinosaurs ruled the earth :-)) I thought it would be wonderful to live in (say) DC or NY and be able to go listen to speeches ans panels, by people in the know. NOW I sit here in my little apartment and can do this. I find this absolutely remarkable!

    • @prometheus23c
      @prometheus23c 5 лет назад +3

      I feel the same way. I am on the other side of the Atlantic and not quite from the dinosaur era, but I also find it remarkable that I now have access to things like these.

    • @stevenwiederholt7000
      @stevenwiederholt7000 5 лет назад +3

      @@prometheus23c
      That little silicon chip has changed EVERYTHING.
      Back in the late 70's I subscribed to a magazine (I forget the title...I have Someheimer's :-)), once a week I'd get small clips from newspaper from around the world. Today if I want to know what's happening in Kazakhstan...Fiji...etc, its all right here on my computer. A mere 30 years ago we could not really be having this conversation.

    • @roberrplatt4214
      @roberrplatt4214 4 года назад +2

      The best is Gresham College in the UK. They have a RUclips channel but also an independent site where you can download both video or audio. Gresham has been delivering public lectures since the time of Elizabeth I. Top drawer!

    • @stevenwiederholt7000
      @stevenwiederholt7000 4 года назад +1

      @@roberrplatt4214
      Been a subscriber for some time.

    • @quantumfineartsandfossils2152
      @quantumfineartsandfossils2152 3 года назад +1

      Yes it always is well wishes to you you are adorable ive loved computers my whole life as well

  • @Relay300
    @Relay300 3 года назад +6

    It’s the cruelty of the betrayal that gives you nightmares

  • @edwinsalau150
    @edwinsalau150 2 года назад +5

    Thank you for YOUR SERVICE!
    What happened to the individual who betrayed the wire taps on the Soviet undersea cables?

  • @kronos458
    @kronos458 4 года назад +11

    She wonderfully explains CIA's main flaw.Neurotic imbalance between mole-mania and naivety in relying on assets.

  • @antonioacevedo5200
    @antonioacevedo5200 5 лет назад +3

    Sandy radiates class and integrity. Jean was so lucky to have had as great a friend as Sandy.

  • @kentamitchell
    @kentamitchell 8 лет назад +15

    I hope Ames has a long stay in Colorado's SuperMax, and gets out with a tag on his toe.

    • @Johnnycdrums
      @Johnnycdrums 8 лет назад

      +KentA Mitchell ; Rosario was no prize either.

    • @dasboot5903
      @dasboot5903 4 года назад

      AMEN.

    • @zaplito3023
      @zaplito3023 3 года назад +2

      Sadly he is in the Federal Prison Camp at Allenwood, Pennsylvania. I’ve been there for my work. It is far better than he deserves.

    • @zaplito3023
      @zaplito3023 3 года назад

      @Bobb Grimley sadly that may be true.

  • @Aubury
    @Aubury 4 года назад +8

    Utterly fascinating. Remarkable women. Assets to one side, and traitors to others, and visa versa. The second oldest profession.

  • @CaesarInVa
    @CaesarInVa 5 лет назад +3

    Insofar as they didn't take into consideration superficial personal attributes like how someone dressed, etc., when they were creating their rating rubric (for want of a better term), I would like to ask the speaker what DID they base their rating on? Gut instinct? Just curious.

    • @F_Tim1961
      @F_Tim1961 5 лет назад +1

      I have seen another video ; it might be Vertfeuille 's which goes into this question. It is a mixture of , is he reliable, does he seem sincere, has he been evasive, has he been proven to lie at least once ? perceptions like lives beyond his means would be factors. In a way it is an unofficial polygraph with the attestor being both the subject and the polygraph technician.

    • @roberrplatt4214
      @roberrplatt4214 4 года назад +2

      CIA has a lot of independently wealthy people. The parking lot has many fine foreign autos driven by expensively-dressed people.

  • @markkuba5074
    @markkuba5074 Год назад +2

    He did it for love. ❤ That’s why he had no remorse.

    • @allysondoerfler8688
      @allysondoerfler8688 Год назад +1

      He did it for money.

    • @felixchien1664
      @felixchien1664 Год назад

      @@allysondoerfler8688 sounds like it was for both if you hear the entire story. It's possible if a woman wasn't involved he wouldn't have had such a motivation in the first place. He was a degenerate from the beginning

    • @MB-vu3ow
      @MB-vu3ow 6 месяцев назад

      @@allysondoerfler8688. for a greedy wife.

  • @erikmardiste
    @erikmardiste Год назад

    Wouldn't the alarms been raised after the first 4???

  • @richardcarr7702
    @richardcarr7702 3 года назад

    Nice piece!

  • @roberrplatt4214
    @roberrplatt4214 4 года назад +8

    Spying is neat and all, and we spend a ton of money on it, but there are entire shelves of books in the library on target nations that go completely un-read. Anthropologists and economists and historians and linguists pore over foreign cultures and the stuff gets filed away unnoticed by anyone except their academic peers. I know this because the reading lists of our top decisionmakers are woefully inadequate and they show no advanced understanding of the culture of their opponents. From Vietnam onward we hire think tanks to write custom books that justify one or another position. If we took the time to study the world, we would spend a lot less blood and treasure fighting in it. The Brits and the French, now those are people who study a problem first. Even the Russians.

    • @vcab6875
      @vcab6875 3 года назад

      Add the Germans to the list

    • @chasey2327
      @chasey2327 2 года назад

      that's a really interesting observation robert - it's why i try and read people like noam chomsky, a chap who's spent his life doing the digging for our benefit.

  • @JJAngleton
    @JJAngleton 6 лет назад +8

    Never sell your country for a gal. It’s just not worth it. 🗽🇺🇸

    • @tatianalyulkin410
      @tatianalyulkin410 3 года назад +1

      Never sell your country for anything or anyone. You can disagree, you can fight until both of you are bloody and exhausted, but you never betray the thing you love- much less sell it.

  • @emceha
    @emceha Год назад

    GRU is less known, but they are much more vicious in their pursue of traitors.

  • @spikeduval
    @spikeduval 9 лет назад +11

    can one imagine what the hell is going on today in the cia

    • @tightcamper
      @tightcamper 3 года назад +2

      I was just thinking that. Throw Russian generated "woke" into the mix and its game over. There is no way the CIA will investigate a black man under the present climate. The Russians are seriously smart!

    • @tatianalyulkin410
      @tatianalyulkin410 3 года назад

      I don't have to " imagine "- I'm Ukrainian. 😀

    • @tatianalyulkin410
      @tatianalyulkin410 3 года назад

      @@tightcamper What are you talking about? The Russians are the most racist people in the world. They're so not Woke. Woke is 100% George Soros.

    • @tightcamper
      @tightcamper 3 года назад +3

      @@tatianalyulkin410 I agree with you. Reread my post paying attention to the quotes, I think you missed the point I was making.

    • @deoglemnaco7025
      @deoglemnaco7025 3 года назад

      6 years ago?

  • @michaelstone1047
    @michaelstone1047 5 лет назад

    Wonder if she's related to Frank Grimes

  • @chrisharrison763
    @chrisharrison763 9 лет назад +10

    She keeps getting teary eyed when talking about the Soviet spies, calling them "victims" and "assets" and portraying them as heroes. When discussing Ames, she calls him a "traitor" and speaks with derision regarding him. It doesn't seem she would have had any problem giving Ames the death penalty, but when speaking about the Russians receiving the death penalty from their government she starts to cry.
    What's the difference between the Soviets and Ames? From my (non American) perspective they're exactly the same but just on different sides.

    • @clazy8
      @clazy8 9 лет назад +4

      +Chris Harrison What's the difference? Are you suggesting there's no difference? If all you know about this case comes from this video, you couldn't possibly have a meaningful opinion either way.

    • @clazy8
      @clazy8 9 лет назад +3

      +thomas price God only knows what you mean by "sycophantic".

    • @Johnnycdrums
      @Johnnycdrums 8 лет назад +7

      +Chris Harrison ; She's a patriot and believes that we were right and they were wrong. What's wrong with that, and what's the point in joining if you don't believe in anything? If you view Communism as the moral equivalence to Individualism, or Americanism, it is you that have a problem.

    • @laynehansen6216
      @laynehansen6216 8 лет назад +9

      Well, the difference is, the US is the beacon of freedom to the world (at least it used to be). The USSR sought to enslave the entire world. Not a small difference.

    • @chrisharrison763
      @chrisharrison763 8 лет назад +4

      Layne Hansen Tell that to the people of the Philippines/Vietnam/Iraq. Your arrogance and blind belief is laughable. The phrase 'Beacon of freedom' is hilarious to anyone not indoctrinated by US propaganda.

  • @asifitmatters1
    @asifitmatters1 Год назад +1

    The incompetence of Grimes and her colleagues is truly monumental. When a spy shows up in a brand new Jaguar on a salary that is basically half the value of that car it should immediately lead to questions. It didn’t!

  • @edwardb7811
    @edwardb7811 2 года назад +1

    I believe women have an intuition and understanding of men which, combined with analytical abilities, enable them to do excellent counterintelligence work.

  • @PacificExpressions
    @PacificExpressions 5 лет назад +2

    Chewbacca-n

  • @2121beastmode
    @2121beastmode 2 года назад

    Fascinating, but this kid of information should be top secret.