Every Issue My 2024 Road Glide Had Came Down To One Simple Fix
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- Опубликовано: 18 апр 2024
- I've had the 2024 Road Glide now for a couple of months and a lot has happened in that time period. The issues I've had actually came down to one simple fix and today I'll tell you how all of this went down, what the fix actually was and how something so simple caused it all.
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Holy Shit all that talking to simply get to the damn point. To save everyone else the time and pain...it was a bad battery!
Thank you so much
I will never watch another video this guy posts. I still don’t know wtf his issue was, because I had to keep skipping through his ramblings.
He’s definitely a bit of a chatty Kathy. lol.
They do this intentionally so the video isn't 1 minute long
Agreed this guy rambles way too much hopefully he’s going to take some advice here …!!!
Corporate won’t do shit. My 2024 rg at 119 miles had the head replaced. 273 miles had the infotainment screen replaced. Missed Arizona bike week (spent over $1000) because of the second issue. Now at 293 miles check engine light is on and feels like the clutch is slipping. Called corporate multiple times and have been told every time their only responsibility is to send the parts to the dealership. Refused to let me speak to anybody else to resolve the problem. Guess you need a RUclips channel to get any kind of compensation for the time wasted sitting at the service department and the hassle of dragging the piece of shit back and forth to them. Glad they took care of you. I get to spend my day hanging out with them again
As a master mechanic for 40 years I must say that it is pretty embarrassing for someone from Milwaukee to have to make 2 trips to oversee a battery replacement 🤔😂🤣🧐
Just being a home mechanic, you're kind of missing. The obvious you swapped the b c m to another bike, and it didn't work correct. Then you had issues with the battery. Which brings to the point? The bcm was bad they put in in the other bike. It didn't work, and that'd b CM fried your battery and therefore. That's why you need to switch out the battery food for thought
@@keithdabear1334Lost three IQ points trying to read that.
😂😂😂😂😂
Not every faulty battery can be immediately tested as defective with conventional diagnostic tools. Some behave quite inconspicuously even under load and would master any specific test without complaint - but are still defective. It is not for nothing that many car manufacturers now attach so-called battery sensors to the batteries, which, in conjunction with battery management systems, monitor the battery in the on-board electrical system. Often, it is only through a targeted analysis of the recorded data that a faulty battery can be determined. Today's electronics are very sensitive to voltage fluctuations, which is also due to the fact that a lot of data has to be evaluated in real time. These batteries can work without any problems in an analogue vehicle, but often no longer in a digital system.
And these are my more than 40 years of experience in the automotive sector, where for over 30 years I have mainly been busy finding and eliminating such errors. It's not as simple as some people think.
@@duke6321 40 years of experience should eliminate any possibility of this happening.
No regrets ? BULLSHIT
if this was an indian, there would be videos all over youtube talking about how shit the bike is and how bad of a company indian is, how they don't recommend it to anyone that wants to spend that kind of money on a bagger and so on. the amount of leeway they give harley for putting out faulty products is wild. same thing happened with the rollout of the pan america. tons of issues, in the shop more than it was on the road but it wasn't until the next year when the second gen version came out without the issues that anyone really spoke out about the abysmal rollout of the first year bikes.
How do you explain that when you switched out your bcm with another bike at the dealership that bike had problems also?
My Indian has been absolutely rock solid. I traded my Harley in on a Chieftan and am absolutely in love with it. I liked my Harley and have respect for them but my Chieftan is just better in every way for me.
When I went from Indian to harley my only complaint about Indian was the GPS it was hard to see some parts of it on my 17. But I did ride my son's challenger, holy cow what a beast!
yeah no thanks, but whatever floats your boat. never will i lose the rumble and sound of the harley
But you said the bcm when swapped acted up in the other bike..so i feel it was the bcm and battery.
Dang man, from the way you explained all the issues my first thought was "battery," but then I remembered it was a brand new bike, so dismissed it thinking there's just no way.
Sorry you had all the grief. Glad to see they finally resolved it. I’m just passing 1000 miles on my 24 Road Glide and it’s been flawless so far. These bikes have become full blown computers attached to a motor. Gone are the days when all you had to look for were spark, fuel and compression when you were trying to get a bike to run.
The screen and modes are the only difference than the 2019 bikes with RDRS. Oddly enough, the audio output is worse.
All that money spent to be nervous if it's going to start, each time, for some buyers. Unacceptable, Jochen.
All the glitz and glamour of modern electronics seems nice when everything is new & perfect, but fear the dependability for us long distance touring riders is significantly compromised. Shame on HD short cutting R&D testing and leaving it up to customers, yet again.
@@larryj8924 In 15 years the junkyards will be full of unsupported over-teched HD's with their stupid 35-engine line up.
I have rode both glides and they are amazing to say the least . After watching your posts , you pretty much nailed everything to a T and kept it at a level many of us could not do . I have the option of a few dealers in my area and know which ones I can trust and which ones I can't . Thanks again for your posts . I learn something every time
Worked at advance for 2 years. Just remembered I had a woman come in where the whole dash, and center infotainment system was off. Removed the negative cable and corrosion! I cleaned both terminals and no more issues
I have had my 2024 road glide for over a month now. I couldn't do an auto tune with the SE Pro Tuner but could base tune the bike without issue. I put it on a battery tender overnight after riding it a few times and then was able to auto tune. I unhooked the battery this week when I installed my stereo. It threw a few codes causing the check engine light and exclamation mark as well. I cleared the codes which only left the exclamation mark for about 40 miles with no codes. This finally went away but my high beams wouldn't work. I again threw the bike on the battery tender overnight. Rode to work...no high beams...I shut the bike off, turn it back on and the high beams started working and have worked since.
Battery voltage is going to be super critical on these new Harleys for sure.
That's way crazy. How many A-holes park their bikes and blast their stereos because we've never, ever heard a loud stereo before?
Again this whole issue speaks to dependability & confidence for us long distance touring riders. We need our bikes to start and function every time as we travel where HD shops & tow trucks aren't close by. Like the new fancy, powerful bikes, but my ole 09 FLHTCU has never left me stranded in it's near 100k life.
Thank you for updating us. Makes me feel better that I can go ahead and pursue the purchase of a road ride 2024.
I am glad you got it all figured it out. It is frustrating, but atleast you are all good now.
I’m hoping for no issues with mine. Just bought a 24 blue burst road glide. Love the color. Sorry you had so many issues
Hi Hegshot Rides, glad your new RoadGlide is running great, I love my 2020 RoadGlide Special, but that new Screen is beautiful, maybe next year, but leaning toward the RoadGlide St❤, thank you for knowledge, Ride Hard💪🏼, Be Blessed 🙏🏽, Aloha, Kenneth 🤙🏽
I wasn’t stressed. Don’t worry about me or most anyone unless you feel like we care.
Glad your issues were resolved. Now its time to enjoy your bike. Ride safe everyone.
Sometimes you just get a wonky one. Back in 2012 I bought a new Ford Focus Eco boost. Ideal car for the UK and a car I much miss. Would fully recommend it to anyone.... except my specific one was the most gremlin ridden thing I've ever known. A/C was intermittent, split coolant hoses 3 times. Had a technician leave the coolant cap off so all the coolant boiled away. That wasn't the cars fault, but it caused an "overclocking" alert that no one could clear, needed a new engine and ECU for that.
Eventually, 2 days from trade in, the cylinder head split and flooded the engine with coolant.
Other people had one that never missed a beat....
My man, awesome video. It comes down to customer service. We expect it and so does Harley Davidson. I’m real happy it was this simple. Makes sense too.
Good video. I went through this with my 23 CVO RG. Next year I may get a higher Amp Hr and CCA battery
I have the same bike 2024 whiskey fire in black trim with 670 mile. My front suspension is squeaking g upon compression now. What have you found out about the squeak on your bike. Outside of that I haven't had any problems.
Mine, fortunately has not had the issues you say, but the issue I did see, is when I did a stage one with wedge cleaner. The DLC connector had no power. The dealer verified no power as it did not connect to the service commuter. Dropped it off yesterday. My research on tracing the wire. is that the CAN BUS+ to the DLC connector is broken or a bad solder in the wire harness.
Waiting on the dealer to find the issue and or problem.
I had a bad connection on the ground to starter on 2022 FXLRST. Cussed me all sort of start issues. This happened to me years ago on a bagger but I had forgotten. Harleys for the most part are pretty bulletproof. A bad battery will also cause multiple issues. Always check the obvious ( the battery).
It makes sense. I work with battery backup for solar and houses. All batteries have a drain point where they will be damaged. Useless once damaged they cam reach appropriate voltage but they drain faster. Basically they loose more amps than volts.
The dealership cant figure out the health of a battery. So either they were WILDLY incompetent or they needed to fix multiple problems but didn't want the bad press.
I wish someone, maybe you, would make a video telling us what the 2024 RG CVO has that the regular Road Glide does not. Examples: heated hand grips, hill hold, places to plug in heated gear, etc.
Have you had any resolution for the fork noise issue because I have the same fork noise but was told it was valving noise by the dealer and hopefully it will go away! But it’s gotten louder but not resolved yet. Guess I need to take it to a different dealer and see what happens.
Thx. H⭐
My pump for the coolant just went out on my 24 only 1200 miles on it so far.
My first thought when you started explaining the issues was the battery. It’s well known that Harley mechanics are sub par at best.
Many people have had the same exact issues. None of the issues you had were out of the ordinary for these new bikes. Unless the battery was tested as having bad cells... then it is NOT the problem.
The bikes electronics are finicky when it comes to power requirements, like most Chinese electronics.
I tried to buy the other day but my local dealer still wants 22%-25% as a starting point! I just can’t bring myself to grips with that!!! What are your thoughts?
So when they put your BCM in the other bike, did it have a bad battery as well? You said the new bike began experiencing the same problems as your bike. I’m not convinced it was the battery.
To know for sure, you need to put the old BCM back in your bike and see if the gremlin comes back.
these where good videos. It lets people know what to check on there bike. I ride a goldwing and ive heard that a bad batterie can cause issues as well. thank for the info.
As an owner of a 2022 PAS, I will give you a +1. Except they refused to replace my battery. If my bike sits for more that a couple of days without being on a battery tender, I will get random codes from the BCM or the ECM or things like the adaptive ride height or the compression release will not engage or the motor will not start or even traction/ride modes will error out. I had one time where I tried to run it after sitting and tried to take off and it just quit. Managed to get it started. Rode it to the dealer and they did an update. As long as I leave it on the charger, everything works fine. I had one time where I was even sitting in traffic too long, stopped and turned the bike off. Then tried to start it and had similar symptoms. But that has only happened once.
So from my experience, YES the battery causes these types of errors. I hear in the 2024 PAS they upgraded the charging system and put a bigger battery in it. I may try a lithium battery. But as long as I ride it regularly it runs good enough not to upgrade it. Plugging in a tender is easy and cheap.
I was thinking of buying a 2024 RG. Thanks for your videos!!!
I know nothing about Harleys, but as an electrical engineer, I’d prolly bet it was an intermittently shorting cell in the battery. Even if the alarm and electronics ran it down in transit, the issue should have been resolved after running it for a bit.
i had the crank no start issue, I went to start the bike it popped and died and would just crank.. after watching your fist video on this prob i knew right away what it was .. I let the bike set for like 5 min and it started.. then it happened again at the dealership "mind you i had not even put 500 miles on the bike yet" what i was pissed about service knew about this problem but Harley never notified me about it .. They took it to the back did some ecu updates and have not had a problem sense ..
I feel asleep half way thru. What did i miss?
My new 22 RG Spec, die on me, Labor Day weekend, swapped out the battery now everything’s fine
My personal experience with AGM batteries told me that they are polterguiest waiting to happen! I purchased a 2021 pan america in 2021 in less than 6 months My nightmares started. Using an AGM trickle charger from the beginning I started having starting issues, codes, ghostly experiences. Dealer swapped out the battery by orders of HD. Bike ran fine for about a month then the gremlins returned! Met a guy out in California with similar complaints with the same bike. He turned me on to a battery company that specializes in off road batteries for off road toys. I ordered one of their lithium batteries and never looked back. 2 years later and my pan america still runs like new! I also have a road king, that I put a lithium in, that had a replaced bcm by HD. The ghost on that bike left! I also picked up a new FXLRST back in November that has had to non starting episodes! No one currently makes a lithium fir it. As soon as they do I'm getting that AGM nightmare out of that bike! I truly believe it's the problem! It is funny that not every bike out their is freaking insane!😂
Ditto on the lithium batteries, I have 3 bikes two run lithium batteries with no issues, my year old RK Special will be next for a lithium battery, haven't had any issues yet maybe because I put it on the tender occasionally if I don't use it for more than a couple of days but not taking any chances and ordering a lithium replacement pronto. 👍
@@MrPanchoPlanet I also have sport bikes, on the busa boards, there is still an argument going on regarding Li.
I asked them about my Euro bikes that come from the factory with Li, if I should just swap them out to AGM, and would they? That usually ends it.
Well I'm glad it was finally figured out and that it wasn't some systemic defect of these bikes. Still, i think I'm just keeping my 23 RGS.
I have always liked the stock seat...But now i am riding 2 up and i went with the HD Tall Boy Seat which has a lot of padding which my Lady likes and it sits me up higher and back (6ft 255lb) and i love it and it only cost me $378.00...Which am always looking for budget buys...
How is the heat management in the bike specific in low speed?!
I seriously doubt a corporate executive would've done the same for me! I have maybe 2 or 3 followers on RUclips, and my issue doesn't matter (doesn't broadcast to enough people) to send corporate. If it did, I must've lost the invite to the Daytona review rides. Just being fair.😉
The bcm gets its power from the alternator, once started. Not to discount the fact that the system will monitor battery voltage to prioritize resources. “Supposedly “. Great bike but it’s frustrating as hell.
Somehow there’s a software glitch that intervenes when the bike detects even slightly lower than average battery voltage the system starts to intervene by prioritizing energy resources and strange problems emerge as a result.
Not a glitch, it's a "feature" of modern electrical systems like this one that use CanBus. They're very sensitive to having the correct battery voltage, if they don't get it all kinds of problems can happen as we've seen in this case.
I had a BCM Failure 3 day after my warranty expired... it was only throwing .67v to the Solenoid Harley wanted right at $500. For a new BCM...
HD Inc's best days ever was when they made TWO engines and 100,000 bikes per year. All got sold, waiting lists were long, a guy could buy, then resell a year later and make a profit. 98% American Union-made, including accessories. No chinesium or india- made sub-assemblies. No "profits over people" like today's caricature of a once-great Motor Company.
I remember those days . Best times . Been riding since the 70's.
I don't ride a Harley, but I can honestly say all of the new ~2020+ bikes at some point will have issues with the battery. You may find you need to start the bike right away to avoid draining the battery as the lcd screens can take a minute or two to boot up. Also be careful with running accessories. For example if you are blasting music through your speakers and you pull up to a gas stop, you want to turn off your speakers completely to avoid draining your battery. Always carry a set of jumpers.
Hey, that boat ramp looks like Bushy Park. Are you in the greater Charleston area?
Bought my CVO in November, same issues but no resolution until about a month ago, not a battery but, software. Called corporate several times with no resolution, maybe I should start a blog? Oh, and the software update deleted my Homelink garage door opener.
I bought an 06 super glide that spent more time at the dealership than it did in my possession for the first 2 years they ended up putting another computer, handle bar harness,main harness and all new switches and the headlight ( headlight was replaced because the wiring caught fire inside the headlight bucket and after All that it still had the same crank no start issue and shutting off going down the road it was also blowing system and starter relay so I was talking to one of their mechanics at the time and he told me it needed another ground wire run to the frame but Harley said no way was they drilling the frame so I rode my other bike and when the warranty was up I ran a ground from the fuse block and that ended all the problems
My 2024 Road glide is awesome, no problems. Full stage one. I was a little worried. The stereo is absolutely a waste for Harley to even put in.
This is honestly the #1 reason I buy used. Let someone else work out the bugs
I have a service engine light that has came on and only have 1700 miles 2024 road glide and I can’t seem to find what the code means before the code came on the bike started to splitter like it wasn’t getting gas or had bad gas, but after it started, the code is LHCM DTC code is B116000
I’m a mechanic 30 plus years. With today’s electronics the battery is critical. Load testing is very important, voltage drops are a huge issue.
With all the changes I've done on my 2020 RG I'm not sure I want to get the 24.
Have you had an issue with the kill switch turning itself to the off position while riding? 2024 road glide
Never had a Harley in all the 40 years I rode, thankfully.
Do you feel better about yourself now?
You've missed out on an incredible riding experience.
👊🏻Oh boy here we go, let’s get answers👊🏻
Thank you for convincing me not to buy a Harley Davidson. I’ll stick with Honda.
Sounds like the RG has the same issues as the pan American. Glad it’s sorted out 🤘⚡️🤘✨✨✨✨
I suggest that it was both bcm and battery
I had a problem with my bcm
Has it ever been rested for a parasitic draw on the battery? Excluding security system.
Sheesh that took a lot of words to explain a simple problem.
Pan Americas had similar issues with batteries.
The simple problem was the Dealer service. Sorry but I wouldn’t even want that bike after the way it was running.
Where I worked we had a Indian chieftain with a strange dying problem. After a lot of back and forth I thing we found the problem, bad breakers. With how much technology is in bikes now it can be simple things that cause problems. Hell putting a lithium battery in a bike that comes with an AGM battery seen that too.
Man, that is a lot of hot air to explain a simple fix! Hegshot lost me over this waste of my time! To save the next guy, just skip to 7:40…….it was a bad battery.
If you have a new bike or a bike that is only a few years old and it needs work then the name on the gas tank is the problem
Just based on my personal experience, Harley's biggest problem is their dealerships. Especially when it comes to trying to modernize. I had a Street 750 for 6 years and, it was a far better bike than people give it credit for, but the dealerships didn't seem to want to sell them and the service departments didn't want or didn't know how to work on them. I've heard numerous horror stories with the Sportster S and Pan Am where the bikes are in and out of the service department multiple times until the owner finally takes it to a different dealer that fixes it on the first try.
Once again, the bike only uses the battery to start the bike. Realize the bikes power is supplied by the alternator once the bike is started.
It‘s been pretty clear from the beginning that all these problems most likely originated from low voltage. Techs should have seen that…
You know the manufacturer is in over their heads, having built an overly-complex system, when neither the dealer nor corporate, still, to this day, knows for sure what the original problem was. Just swapping out components and hoping the problem goes away is one of the classic signs of an incompetent technician.
More new cars and new motorcycles appearing with lithium batteries that keep all these electronics happier. Lead acid just can not keep steady enough or high enough energy level. Many cars going with 2 batteries. Some companies ditching the old 12 volt going to 48 volt architecture
All my bikes receive lithium IRON(LFP) batteries day 1. Consistent voltage(no drops) lighter, last 3-5 times longer, longer warranty, charges in minutes, not hours, no trickle charger needed, no hydrogen gas or corrosion, larger CCA, full power stating til almost 0% state of charge(lead acid stop cranking at 70% charge. The bike cranks faster. Should be standard on Harley’s
Yeah...My regret...Listening to your sugar coat excuses on the problems with Harley.
The everyday HD customer isn't going to be quite as polite or at least politically gracious toward HD company I suspect. Being a popular U Tuber and invited to HD events may factor into his gracious response toward HD.
Electrical gremlins are the worst!! Intermittent issues are horribly frustrating, and I’m sure that these things are a Tech’s worst nightmare. Glad you got it squared away.
What I don’t understand is the bike or a car doesn’t run off the battery. It only starts the vehicle, then everything runs off the alternator aka charging system, never ever the battery.
HD responds better to YTers that have issues. (With their bikes, of course.)
Nice to see Corporate came to the plate with support. The Harley haters can’t knock them on that
I love the bikes, so I’m definitely not a hater, but you think he got the same attention you or I would get? Best believe the 45k subs affected the response, not to mention the purchase price.
Dealer experience? Great at Thunderbird in Albuquerque and bad at Champion in Roswell…….
Honestly, that should have been the first thing they replaced under warranty.
Thanks China
Never buy the first year of anything… Rule #1…cars or bikes
The original problem was probably a cable connection issue. Then the battery got damaged. Modern batteries suck. If they EVER lose charge they get damaged. A charge on a battery conditioner may bring it back to life.
This is the problem with Harley. Any other brand having these issues and the customer would swear off them and the company would take a big hit. But Harley gets away with it because it's customer base will cop anything.
Soo...Might be the battery? LoL.
Time to buy a different mc 😢 so sad i won't buy a hd
I will almost guarantee these new 2024 harleys will be eating batteries left and right with all these new electronics. This new technology is very sensitive to voltage and requires a lot of voltage to stay operational. It will not take long for the systems to drain drain the battery. I know several people that are replacing batteries in their new cars and trucks within the first two years because of similar issues
So glad I bought an Indian
Say brother, glad to hear ya got her handled.
Are you still going to do Indian reviews? I see them trying to return fire for 2025. Take note they already brought out the '25 Scout.
Dude I had a bit of an opposite experience. I had a not very intrusive noise coming from the cam shaft during the infamous oil pump issue times. So everyone freaked out. I was told that they had to contact corporate (tech department in UK) for instructions, if the issue wasn’t something obvious….like in this case. Their 1st answer was to check the oil pressure, which was a bit lower than it was supposed to be…. in idle. Then 5 days waiting for the next step. And so on. Every single step took about 5 days. It was right after COVID so the mechs didn’t have much work and did everything UK said pretty much right away. But the next step took 5 more days.
Honestly, I think corporate instructed the right things in my opinion, so no complaints there. But boy… 5 days for every single sentence they wrote in that conversation was quite long. It was one of those chats with a girl that’s not very interested, so she texts you super short answers every few days. It was right after COVID and a lot of thing were still semi-functional, so I wanna believe that it had something to do with that.
The dealership in the other hand, did everything as quickly as it gets and knew what the next steps were gonna bee, but had to wait for the messages.
Should of still got a new bike.
Why do you think I own a carbureted sportster, I can fix it myself and there's not a lot of b*******. I don't have to run to the boutique dealer to have my bike work done. Part of the pride of ownership is maintaining my machine and being able to, enough said
harley davidson and bud light....NO THANKS
bike is a pos for what you pay for it,dont cover up for a shit product.
That pile was built on a Friday!
It would be nice if you explained how much this bike cost. Then, Are you Kidding Us? Everybody Knows the First thing that gets trown in the Trash are all of the crappy batteries that are sold in the US. Not your Fault, BUT BUT BUT are you for real???? You shold have replaced the battery FIRST. Can't the dealer check the condition of the battery???? With a real tester, (NOT just volts....U get it...) Finally, are you serious???? Are we supposed to believe that the corporation does not know how to test the BCM? Oscillicope,tests, etc. Are you serious. If they don't know how to test the BCM, this is really shocking. So, On Balance, although you have spent a lot of time making these videos, which are very good....Something about this entire story is still, to say it directly, Really Not Quite Clear....Finally, are there Lemon Laws for motorcycles??? Good luck with your expensive bike, and hopefully it will run perfectly.....omggg!