I was just going to say that. I don't know that leaving the springs compressed for long term would cause them to weaken. I personally haven't noticed it and I have Mossin's and a Turkish Mauser that were built in the 40s. They have probably spent most of their lives cocked and the still strike the primers with authority.
Scares the crap out of me as well n is totally unnecessary like you say. Have had igits laugh when I jump. Mental note to never hunt or shoot with those people.
I relieve the tension on the firing pin spring that way as a rule, but I've only seen one rifle out of several dozen where it was an issue, and it seems that the firing pin spring was defective to start with.
Hunting elk and deer in utah and other Western states using quads and 4x4 trucks and foot hunting is relatively safe. When hunting in groups, accidental gunshot wounds are probably the most dangerous or rolling a quad or utv and getting crushed. Possible knife cuts into the femoral artery. I have guided and hunted remote areas of Canada, ak and international countries since the early 90s, and by far the most dangerous are small aircraft wrecks, drowning, falling off cliffs, horse accidents, then bears in this order. I don't know anyone who was shot yet, but I have lost Many many friends and colleagues to the above. In Africa, wounded cape buffalo and elephants injured or killed a few persons i know. The lower 48 outside of hunting around the Yellowstone ecosystem is relatively safe. Grizzlies are far more dangerous than black bears, and horse wrecks are a reality if you hunt backcountry. I also had two friends fall from treestands when a chain or rope broke. One guy almost died due to a shattered pelvis. He never walked correctly again. The other guy broke several bones and took months to heal.
I like watching rogee productions you tube channel. He always promotes and demonstrates gun safety habits on his hunts. Safety checks and chamber status. Good channel
@@jasonshults368 it’s the position of the after I don’t like on a Remington. The safety on a Winchester or Ruger is much more protected behind the bolt shroud than on the side of the action.
I think a lot of people are going to be confused by your statements on not hunting with a loaded chamber. Based on all your caveats to that statement directly after, I think a better description would be, "Don't have a round in the chamber when you're going to just be traveling to or from the actual area where you will be stalking or hunting". Sure, if it's going to be miles of hiking before you even get to the area where you have scouted, absolutely, no round in the chamber. Or if you're on ATV's or in a side by side, or in your car, etc, no round in the chamber. Once you're at the area though that you're going to be actually hunting, and you're either carefully moving through the dense woods of the mid to eastern regions, or set up on a hillside in the west, I think a round in the chamber is the way most people hunt. I've never hunted with anyone who is actively in their hunt area and ready to shoot a deer who doesn't have a round chambered. Safety on. As you noted in your caveats, you're fine with a round in the chamber when bird hunting, or you're at your stalk, or in your blind, etc etc. So basically, a round in the chamber when you're actually ready to hunt. I can completely understand if you're hunting with groups of people you don't know, or on industry hunts, to be far more controlling of the situation. Otherwise though, I think once you're in your hunt area and actively looking for a deer, a round in the chamber is appropriate.
People need to realize that firing pin blocks were added to pistols for a reason. A friend was claiming down a deer stand and his strap broke. He had his 3030 but decocked.
I'm an ER provider. With regards to tourniquets, if you do need to use them, they need to be unbelievably tight. For a tourniquet to actually work it is generally excruciatingly painful. With that said, yes, just saying "as tight as humanely possible" is vague. It needs to be tight enough to stop the bleeding, which, generally speaking, is incredibly tight. With regards to chest seals, the goal of them in sucking chest wound is to prevent a pneumothorax. In a sucking chest wound where we know there is already communication between the lung and external skin, applying a chest seal can potentially increase the chance of a tension pneumothorax. This is also highly dependent on what type of chest seal you are using. A ton of newer ones are vented, not allowing air in, while still allowing air out. Those are the best option that can be used pretty indiscriminately. With all of that said, for the basic lay person/police/basic first responders, the overall guidance is that applying a chest seal for any penetrating chest wound has been found to do less harm than not applying one. Hope that is helpful.
@jimyeats I have seen ppl use the paracord tourniquets so tight it damages the arm severely and unnecessary. The goal is to stop the bleeding, not cut the arm off. I don't want some moron hearing to put it on as tight as humanely possible putting a tourniquet on me. I suppose you are right about a chest seal, but I'd definitely want one with some sorta heimlick value or flutter value. I'd also be worried about a hemothorax without some sort of relief valve.
@@Bullets4Bucks That's why paracord tourniquets are in no way endorsed as a first line tourniquet by anyone. Their only purpose would be as some sort of last-ditch effort. A hemothorax is going to occur (if it's going to occur) whether there is a chest seal or not. Valve or not. That bleeding is internal, in the pleural space. The blood and associated debris are largely too viscous to naturally drain both A) out of the pleural space, and B) out of a chest seal valve. Nothing you're going to do about that in the field realistically. For example, if I place a chest tube on someone for just a pneumothorax you can get away with quite a small tube, sometimes just a tiny tube in some circumstances (similar in internal diameter to a coffee stir straw), depending on their level of trauma. But for a hemothorax to remove that blood and other accumulated products we're using a tube the size of a 10mm bullet.
Get a Handcocking Rifle like Blaser Steel Action Haenel Heym .... you can leave a round in the chamber without any Problem the Gun is 200% safe till you Cock it, i wouldnt trust Triggersafteys too the only saftey that really counts is a Saftey that holds the Firing Pin in Place like Mauser 98 Thats beeing said in a Truck at Home or an ATV my Rifles would be empty but when you are Stalking a Round is in the Chamber
To be honest, if you get shot by accident with a high-powered rifle....bye bye you're a gonner....unless you get nicked....asprin doesn't work for a heart attack 😂 you need to drink a shot load of aspirin
I find that you have to keep in mind that most hunting channels/podcasts are western or open land hunters so a lot of what they are talking about doesn't translate to deer hunting in the woods. There are several deer I wouldn't have harvested if I waited till I was in a stand ti chamber a round.
@@dooformuladlxI'm a Western hunter, mostly now, my sidearm and my rifle are always loaded and on safe. This bolt open concept is bizarre to me, unless it's in a vehicle or on a horse it makes no sense.
100%, I never walk with others hunting with one in my or their chamber. Too easy for someone to slip on ice, or trip; safety can fail, ask Remington owners. I will when i"m sitting or maybe if slow walking in denser forest and alone, not if with partner.
Good topics, guys. Quiet subscriber here. And a new hunter. Loving this.
If you press the trigger while closing the bolt the action will uncock.
Exactly right
I was just going to say that. I don't know that leaving the springs compressed for long term would cause them to weaken. I personally haven't noticed it and I have Mossin's and a Turkish Mauser that were built in the 40s. They have probably spent most of their lives cocked and the still strike the primers with authority.
Scares the crap out of me as well n is totally unnecessary like you say. Have had igits laugh when I jump. Mental note to never hunt or shoot with those people.
I relieve the tension on the firing pin spring that way as a rule, but I've only seen one rifle out of several dozen where it was an issue, and it seems that the firing pin spring was defective to start with.
Hunting elk and deer in utah and other Western states using quads and 4x4 trucks and foot hunting is relatively safe. When hunting in groups, accidental gunshot wounds are probably the most dangerous or rolling a quad or utv and getting crushed. Possible knife cuts into the femoral artery. I have guided and hunted remote areas of Canada, ak and international countries since the early 90s, and by far the most dangerous are small aircraft wrecks, drowning, falling off cliffs, horse accidents, then bears in this order. I don't know anyone who was shot yet, but I have lost Many many friends and colleagues to the above. In Africa, wounded cape buffalo and elephants injured or killed a few persons i know. The lower 48 outside of hunting around the Yellowstone ecosystem is relatively safe. Grizzlies are far more dangerous than black bears, and horse wrecks are a reality if you hunt backcountry. I also had two friends fall from treestands when a chain or rope broke. One guy almost died due to a shattered pelvis. He never walked correctly again. The other guy broke several bones and took months to heal.
I like watching rogee productions you tube channel. He always promotes and demonstrates gun safety habits on his hunts. Safety checks and chamber status. Good channel
Wow, seems just like yesterday when Ruger was lying prone and hitting targets, now he's taller than his Father?
Good topic without looking up any statistics I think the biggest dangers while hunting would be:
1. Dehydration
2. Hypothermia
3. Falling
I don’t really trust safety’s either but I do trust 3 position safety’s on model 70’s and 77’s a hell of a lot more than and Remington style safety.
I have had Remington triggers fail, but have never had a Remington safety fail.
@@jasonshults368 it’s the position of the after I don’t like on a Remington. The safety on a Winchester or Ruger is much more protected behind the bolt shroud than on the side of the action.
I think a lot of people are going to be confused by your statements on not hunting with a loaded chamber. Based on all your caveats to that statement directly after, I think a better description would be, "Don't have a round in the chamber when you're going to just be traveling to or from the actual area where you will be stalking or hunting". Sure, if it's going to be miles of hiking before you even get to the area where you have scouted, absolutely, no round in the chamber. Or if you're on ATV's or in a side by side, or in your car, etc, no round in the chamber.
Once you're at the area though that you're going to be actually hunting, and you're either carefully moving through the dense woods of the mid to eastern regions, or set up on a hillside in the west, I think a round in the chamber is the way most people hunt. I've never hunted with anyone who is actively in their hunt area and ready to shoot a deer who doesn't have a round chambered. Safety on.
As you noted in your caveats, you're fine with a round in the chamber when bird hunting, or you're at your stalk, or in your blind, etc etc. So basically, a round in the chamber when you're actually ready to hunt.
I can completely understand if you're hunting with groups of people you don't know, or on industry hunts, to be far more controlling of the situation. Otherwise though, I think once you're in your hunt area and actively looking for a deer, a round in the chamber is appropriate.
People need to realize that firing pin blocks were added to pistols for a reason. A friend was claiming down a deer stand and his strap broke. He had his 3030 but decocked.
Better safe than sorry!!!
Carry 2 tourniquets one don’t always stop the bleed.
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You are wrong... you do not put it as tight as humanely possible... if you seal a chest gunshot you will probably developed a pneumothorax
I'm an ER provider. With regards to tourniquets, if you do need to use them, they need to be unbelievably tight. For a tourniquet to actually work it is generally excruciatingly painful. With that said, yes, just saying "as tight as humanely possible" is vague. It needs to be tight enough to stop the bleeding, which, generally speaking, is incredibly tight.
With regards to chest seals, the goal of them in sucking chest wound is to prevent a pneumothorax. In a sucking chest wound where we know there is already communication between the lung and external skin, applying a chest seal can potentially increase the chance of a tension pneumothorax. This is also highly dependent on what type of chest seal you are using. A ton of newer ones are vented, not allowing air in, while still allowing air out. Those are the best option that can be used pretty indiscriminately. With all of that said, for the basic lay person/police/basic first responders, the overall guidance is that applying a chest seal for any penetrating chest wound has been found to do less harm than not applying one.
Hope that is helpful.
@jimyeats I have seen ppl use the paracord tourniquets so tight it damages the arm severely and unnecessary. The goal is to stop the bleeding, not cut the arm off. I don't want some moron hearing to put it on as tight as humanely possible putting a tourniquet on me.
I suppose you are right about a chest seal, but I'd definitely want one with some sorta heimlick value or flutter value. I'd also be worried about a hemothorax without some sort of relief valve.
@@Bullets4Bucks That's why paracord tourniquets are in no way endorsed as a first line tourniquet by anyone. Their only purpose would be as some sort of last-ditch effort.
A hemothorax is going to occur (if it's going to occur) whether there is a chest seal or not. Valve or not. That bleeding is internal, in the pleural space. The blood and associated debris are largely too viscous to naturally drain both A) out of the pleural space, and B) out of a chest seal valve. Nothing you're going to do about that in the field realistically.
For example, if I place a chest tube on someone for just a pneumothorax you can get away with quite a small tube, sometimes just a tiny tube in some circumstances (similar in internal diameter to a coffee stir straw), depending on their level of trauma. But for a hemothorax to remove that blood and other accumulated products we're using a tube the size of a 10mm bullet.
There are lots of dangers in hunting that have nothing to do with the firearms. You are blowing it out of proportion, and then promoting paranoia.
Your arrogance that you are the end all be All is sick
A wealthy man that thinks he is perfect
Cz makes a 22 that the safety is backwards on It I own one and never use it because of that
Get a Handcocking Rifle like Blaser Steel Action Haenel Heym .... you can leave a round in the chamber without any Problem the Gun is 200% safe till you Cock it, i wouldnt trust Triggersafteys too the only saftey that really counts is a Saftey that holds the Firing Pin in Place like Mauser 98
Thats beeing said in a Truck at Home or an ATV my Rifles would be empty but when you are Stalking a Round is in the Chamber
To be honest, if you get shot by accident with a high-powered rifle....bye bye you're a gonner....unless you get nicked....asprin doesn't work for a heart attack 😂 you need to drink a shot load of aspirin
Seems like the same guys who don't hunt on a loaded chamber are the same guys advocate for appendex carry.
Very different scenarios. Lots of rifles aren't drop safe.
I find that you have to keep in mind that most hunting channels/podcasts are western or open land hunters so a lot of what they are talking about doesn't translate to deer hunting in the woods. There are several deer I wouldn't have harvested if I waited till I was in a stand ti chamber a round.
@@dooformuladlxI'm a Western hunter, mostly now, my sidearm and my rifle are always loaded and on safe. This bolt open concept is bizarre to me, unless it's in a vehicle or on a horse it makes no sense.
That hunters ed course idea sounds like an awesome idea!
100%, I never walk with others hunting with one in my or their chamber. Too easy for someone to slip on ice, or trip; safety can fail, ask Remington owners. I will when i"m sitting or maybe if slow walking in denser forest and alone, not if with partner.
the ‘Mancast’….. niiiiice bro
Ruger is here!