Network Acoustics Muon network system
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- A year ago I reviewed the Network Acoustics Eno streaming system. Now they introduce a further developed filter and cable called Muon. Given the results with the Eno, I was immediately interested. And while testing I did some interesting discoveries.
Contents of this video
00:00 - Intro
00:25 - Start of program
00:39 - Where to use
01:23 - Bits are bits
02:33 - Phase noise
03:50 - Other artefacts
05:57 - To analog
08:41 - The Muon
09:51 - Some background
10:58 - How tested 1
12:00 - Sound quality 1
13:34 - How tested 2
13:59 - Sound quality 2
14:40 - The wrap
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www.networkacoustics.com
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Very interesting Hans. I need to pay some more attention to this area of my set up, and this was very much food for thought. 👍🎧😁
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you fir great review
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Hallo Hans. In de overgang van het oude segment over jitter naar de opname van deze week is heel duidelijk hoorbaar en zichtbaar dat je operatie een groot positief effect heeft. Goed om te zien👍
Dat heeft het zeker en ik ben er dan ook heel blij mee.
I greatly appreciate your honesty when you state that you did not experience a significant improvement in your first hi-end set-up. 🙂 And I also agree that the best way to evaluate the product, assuming I have the funds to keep it if impressive, is to use their 30 day money back guarantee. I'll have to see if this is available here in Canada with the local distributor.
It doesn't have to be 30 days for every product...
Hans, thanks for informative the video. Is jitter ahead of the DAC eliminated or reduced via asynchronous USB protocol? Thanks.
Watch the videos I mention in this video. There you find the answers.
Dear Hans,
Currently I’m playing with a Audio Note Dac3.1x/II that accepts only until 96khz. If have read that the Mu-1 only sends PCM 176,4 en 192kHz to external dac. I was wondering if there is a option to set a limit tot 96kHz?
Yes it has. See my review.
Hi Hans, Thanks again for the nice review! I'm wondering if this system would still have added value in a Diretta setup. Are you planning to looking into Diretta anytime soon? Seems it is compared to other solutions pretty undocumented and could benefit from structured review...
I have no direct plans.
Hi Hans, did you try the Muon with the mytek DAC and the ferrum hypsos? Best, J
No for I would not recommend spending more on the filter than on the DAC.
Hi Hans, i really enyoy your videos. I have a question, for your setup 2 ( i have similar category system) what whould you chose, eno or muon?
If money is no object, the Nuon.
I realized that with the Grimm Audio Mu1 (which I intend to buy) the use of Eno (which I own) or Muon, leads to negligible improvements.
The same thing can be said for an optical connection upstream of the swtich (in my case sotm) before the Muon? Does the audio quality - be it fiber optic or lan cable - not change with the Mu1?
I have not tested that for it means replacing the optical connection to two floors up. But my educated guess is that the MU1 will not sound better wit fibre.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thank you
Hans, I strongly suspect that between power supplies and network geegaws, you've sold a LOT of turntables ;)
Seriously, I'm less inclined to doubt the holdovers who cling to their CD transports for dear life, years after the rest of us burned everything to disk. No easy answers with anything mechanical/electro-mechanical but it would seem that we are intent on putting more gear in the chain from the source to our ears. Thanks for the video.
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I am wondering where "galvanic isolation" fits into all of this. Do I oversimplify the situation by suggesting that Eno and Muon possess galvanic isolation as one of their chief features and that therefore:
1. when paired with an audiophile network switch (which generally does not contain galvanic isolation) they further improve SQ. 2. when paired with Grimm MU1 (which seemingly contains galvanic isolation) they have minimal impact on SQ?
Galvanic separation is one of the techniques to avoid degradation of the digital signal, but surely not the only one. Filtering out noise is another one, as is reclocking, reshaping and so on. Network Acoustics doesn't tell what they do exactly. But their products do an excellent job.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thank you for your reply. One of the things Network Acoustics does admit to doing is reducing network speed from 1Gb to 100Mbs. Coincidentally, this is something Dutch cable manufacturer Tubulus advertises as a feature of their ethernet cables. Tubulus also got a great review from HEADquarter audio on youtube recentlly for both their i2s and XLR cables. That might be a brand worth reviewing sometime - high quality specs including silver conductor and air dialectrics, yet nor extremely expensive.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel inside the Muon there is one common mode coil.
How do you measure noise on your ethernet to know if you need this product?
With two ears. It's not only the ethernet noise, it's also how well your network player can deal with it. As I mentioned in the review, the influence of the filter on the Grimm Audio player was rather limited but on other players it was quite evident. You can try one and send it back when it doesn't bring improvement....
There is a new Muon Pro with 1GB/s - but sound quality should be improved again. Are you planning a review / video? Would be very interesting to see.
Yes, soon.
Good morning Hans,
Sunrise Lab Áudio offers a product in this class called Media Link Ethernet. I happen to have a unit that would gladly lend for a test.
I don’t review products other than supplied to me by the manufacturer or its representative. But thanks anyway.
Dear Hans, did you try the muon filter at the innuos Zen Series? If yes how does the innuos doing better with or without the device?
Thank you with greetings Anton
No I haven’t. But you can try it for yourself since they have a money back guarantee.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thank you
Some think wifi transmission sounds better than cabled. I wonder how close we could get in performance using wifi instead of cable with the Muon or Eno. Great channel, thank you!
Very good point. Unfortunately my Wi-Fi is too intermittent and that’s very annoying.
It can sound better, depending on the gear you use and your local aether space for Wifi.
Hi Hans, how do you come across such a product. Is it curiosity or are you approached by the supplier. Personally I feel you are going deeper down a rabbit hole few will follow or care about.
Both happen. In this case it was suggested by the manufacturer. For as far as the rabbit hole is concerned: that’s where tomorrow for the common people happens.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thanks for your reply. I just feel that having so much emphasis on expensive components in areas like the the ethernet chain could be out wayed by buying a better essential component like dac or amp. I appreciate that all the hifi network switches etc improve the sound in your system , but for most people it's irrelevant.
I disagree. I bought the Muon as soon as it was released a month ago. It is one of the best product you can spend your money on if you stream from Tidal, Qubuz, Apple Music and other services. Network Acoustics is a new brand but already received highly positive reviews from highly respected reviewers like HiFi+ and The Ear. Hans is right to bring us the best in digital audio playback available today. Those who ignore this as a rabbit hole diversion do so at their own expense.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel It's the willingness to go down the rabbit hole that makes me support you on Patreon. Thank you and please continue making such high quality content.
If you index the videos I have made over the last 12 months, you'll see that the number of videos on expensive equipment is limited. But it is that equipment that learns me a lot on what is possible and how it can be achieved.
Hans, have you tried going from switch>ethernet cable>media converter>fiber >media converter w/ ifi dc ipurifier2 >6 inch Cat 8 cable>streamer? The fiber run is suppose to remove all noise, the media converter should add very little noise with the ifi dc ipurifier2, and the short cat8 is sheilded and because of short length won't pick up much noise. It costs less than $200 and I would think that you would get simular results to this product.
Fibre only kills the noise that otherwise would be transported through the galvanic connection. Phase noise isn't killed by it. Furthermore the conversion from galvanic to optical and back could introduce deterioration. So it might help - it does in in my connection from the third floor to downstairs - but it's not the end solution.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel who would there still be phase noise? Is it coming from the media converter? Would a common mode choke fix this?
Network data is transferred from one buffer of the operating system (server) to another buffer OS (client). There can be only two results of the transfer: everything is delivered exactly or the connection is broken. How many devices are on the path, optical cable or twisted pair, etc. absolutely does not matter. Operating system buffer cannot have jitter 🤷♂️
Sorry for my poor English.
Did you watch the video????
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel How? I don't have a network filter and the video is scattered into squares. (kidding)
I have noticed that it's hard to listen to and understand accents. Maybe because I am a non-native speaker?
You could use the subtitles
I enjoy your channel but these type of products are what gives audio a bad name. There's just no way this is any better than the DXE-ISO ($50) or the EMO Systems EN-70 (~$175).
So you have tried the NUON?
I aready thought you hadn't. Yours is a unfunded judgement and thus worthless. Please refrain from doing so.