In Germany art stolen over 30 years ago is no longer considered stolen. Their auction houses openly sell stolen art. There is a case now where a Polish museum is fighting to get a stolen painting back from a German auction house.
This episode was somewhat interesting, but it was not at all about the "lucrative business of art theft" (i.e., who makes money it and how much they make).
Question: when a piece of art is recovered, does the museum have to pay back the amount the insurance company paid them for the claim the museum made? Why or why not? Surprised there was no mention that much of the stolen pieces become an ersatz currency for criminal networks - though in reality, the criminals can never redeem the works for cash, they are still used as cash.
The museum effectively sells the rights to the stolen works, in the event they are recovered, to the insurance company, in exchange for the lump-sum insurance payout. In this case, the museum was able to buy back the stolen works. This is how it was explained in the video, but I don't know how common that practice is.
@@kuffertmedhat In that exchange the owners of the stolen pieces of art have changed positions as owners. The insurance company bought them from their seller the museum no longer the owner of the articles sold for the price of the rights to the pieces it previously owned.
Very nice documentary. 👌 I would like too see one on the subject what Vatican stole through history and also what happened with Art through restoration after the 2 word war (some work conveniently declared missing but really sold to private buyers etc.) Thanks 👍
There is available technology that is used to avoid theft of valuable paintings and drawings. There is photograph ability to produce actual size, convincing copies intended for public display while the originals reside safely in vaults off promises.
@@Pencil0fDoom Yeah, when the copy becomes just as valuable as the original, we have a problem. Personally, I would rather the art be stolen *because* of its value so the work can retain its authenticity, and only if its stolen, should a copy be put up, to honor the original.
My question many years ago was, if such an important/known art gets stolen, it has a target on it. So who buys that? Now, knowing that the majority of all collections (art or antiquity) are privately owned, then it's not so difficult to realise who buys or to say boldly, who orders such art heists.
Same people that keep human traffickers employed. HIGH SOCIETY love their ability to be white hats in public life but dark sadists, driven by the desire to outdo each other in their private country clubs. We the people.. aka THE PEASANTS... bow in awe at their privilege and perfection.
not sure if i agree with making restorations noticeable so that they can be improved in the future. My approach would be to document the restoration but make it as seamless as possible. I mean, it's bound to look different anyways, so why half the effort?
Are we though? Even the highest definition print will not reflect light in the same way the original painting does. While we’re at it, why not keep our musicians locked away never to perform live. We’ll just enjoy their music in large groups through recordings and cover bands.
I'll have more respect for museums when they return the artifacts they have stolen themselves over the centuries and have yet no desire to return them. Whole continents have suffered the lose of their historical pieces. The museum I work in we have no pieces that are stolen and its an amazing pride filled career when you do work with other countries to exhibit some of their artifacts and returning them afterwards. Museums are my life but there is and always will be a great sadness when you observe the thefts that go unmentioned.
From your experience, is it true that all the exhibited artworks (especially paintings) are not originals? I heard this information in a documentary and it made a lot of sense bc there’s no way museums would put up originals for the public. No?
I don’t understand the economics of art theft. Are they stealing on spec or are they stealing to order? If stealing from a gallery where all the works of art are documented it must be very hard to sell. Gold can be melted down and jewels can be reset. Cash can be laundered. Paintings have a base value of close to zero - some wood canvas and paint. All the value is in the skill of the artist and the name recognition of the artist. Do we believe that there are reclusive billionaires with clandestine art collections or am I missing something?
Im wondering the exact same thing.. idk at this point if I had a buyer.. I'd be an art thief but I just don't see that happening like you said it's hard to understand how this would benefit both the buyer and seller without getting them in some major trouble..with that said if any millionaires need anything feel free to contact me 😂
What all this stolen art amounts to, is lost revenue. A large part of the annual product is not producing a return to society. A $40 million dollar Picasso is not making more money as a stolen piece of art. Art projects, museum staff and services, are less $40 million poorer and society pays the bill instead of the art piece earning its own money.
Lock up all of the real art in an undisclosed location, vet your employees, especially security to the nth degree, & let the public view copies. Put the originals online HD also for the public to view. Monitor the dark web. You'll probably find tons of stolen art.
@@no-gy9uk We see FREE originals in the National Gallery of Art, Smithsonian and other museums & galleries in Washington, DC. One of the many reasons it's such a great place to live! No one will waste time or money to see copies. Who would even THINK of that?
Why would you make a shoe museum? Why would you steal shoes from a shoe museum? Why would you make a documentary about stealing shoes from a shoe museum? The answer can be found in Sex in the City Season 2 Episode 12. Still fairly boring documentary about art theft. For me that is a first.
Brilliant topic. However, made me realize just how great a difference a narrator makes! Wildemar’s absence is well felt.
In Germany art stolen over 30 years ago is no longer considered stolen. Their auction houses openly sell stolen art. There is a case now where a Polish museum is fighting to get a stolen painting back from a German auction house.
This documentary just reinforces my opinion that art restoration is amazing.
This episode was somewhat interesting, but it was not at all about the "lucrative business of art theft" (i.e., who makes money it and how much they make).
They just called it a lucrative business in the title, they didn't say the people behind the lucrative business or something similar
THIS VIDEO STARTS NOWHERE, AND CONTINUES ON GOING NOWHERE !
That Braque painting is gorgeous.
Nice, but needs more Waldemar...
The hideous yellow walls do nothing for the paintings.
And the blue,the deep green and the light red… this is a bold choice. Is it serving the paintings ? I guess.
I was wondering how the wall colors are chosen; these seem unusual.
LOL 😂 I agree!
Odličan
Question: when a piece of art is recovered, does the museum have to pay back the amount the insurance company paid them for the claim the museum made? Why or why not? Surprised there was no mention that much of the stolen pieces become an ersatz currency for criminal networks - though in reality, the criminals can never redeem the works for cash, they are still used as cash.
The museum effectively sells the rights to the stolen works, in the event they are recovered, to the insurance company, in exchange for the lump-sum insurance payout. In this case, the museum was able to buy back the stolen works. This is how it was explained in the video, but I don't know how common that practice is.
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@@kuffertmedhat In that exchange the owners of the stolen pieces of art have changed positions as owners. The insurance company bought them from their seller the museum no longer the owner of the articles sold for the price of the rights to the pieces it previously owned.
Very nice documentary. 👌 I would like too see one on the subject what Vatican stole through history and also what happened with Art through restoration after the 2 word war (some work conveniently declared missing but really sold to private buyers etc.) Thanks 👍
Doesn't it just make you furious. Thieves stealing art just to destroy it/let it rot. Hateful.
I hope I'm as engaging and clear-headed as Mrs Bata when I'm eighty.
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The shoes are more interesting once you know who wore them ...the story behind the shoes😊
I went to the Bata Shoe Museum. They have 12,000 pairs of shoes but only a few on display. I was very disappointed.
There is available technology that is used to avoid theft of valuable paintings and drawings. There is photograph ability to produce actual size, convincing copies intended for public display while the originals reside safely in vaults off promises.
yeah thats what i want to see when i go to a museum. A giftshop lithograph. Philistine...
@@Pencil0fDoom Yeah, when the copy becomes just as valuable as the original, we have a problem. Personally, I would rather the art be stolen *because* of its value so the work can retain its authenticity, and only if its stolen, should a copy be put up, to honor the original.
My question many years ago was, if such an important/known art gets stolen, it has a target on it. So who buys that? Now, knowing that the majority of all collections (art or antiquity) are privately owned, then it's not so difficult to realise who buys or to say boldly, who orders such art heists.
Same people that keep human traffickers employed.
HIGH SOCIETY love their ability to be white hats in public life but dark sadists, driven by the desire to outdo each other in their private country clubs.
We the people.. aka THE PEASANTS... bow in awe at their privilege and perfection.
They like it like this , thats why.
Its a game played by people in a club that we can't join.
In Germany art stolen over 30 years ago is no longer considered stolen and can be sold at auction.
not sure if i agree with making restorations noticeable so that they can be improved in the future. My approach would be to document the restoration but make it as seamless as possible. I mean, it's bound to look different anyways, so why half the effort?
This is so sad that someone would steal something that has A Home & So Cared For & Apprectiated. Greed!
There are some wonderfully meticulous videos of restorations done by Baumgarten Restoration, if you enjoyed this video.
His programs are really wonderful. I've loved all of them.
yes, Baumgartner Restoration is incredible. Julian is a master.
Since we are capable of producing such good reproductions of paints I have to ask why the originals are hung where thieves have access to them.
Are we though? Even the highest definition print will not reflect light in the same way the original painting does.
While we’re at it, why not keep our musicians locked away never to perform live. We’ll just enjoy their music in large groups through recordings and cover bands.
Many museums do already. The originals are in vaults and very fine replicas are on displays now.
I'll have more respect for museums when they return the artifacts they have stolen themselves over the centuries and have yet no desire to return them. Whole continents have suffered the lose of their historical pieces. The museum I work in we have no pieces that are stolen and its an amazing pride filled career when you do work with other countries to exhibit some of their artifacts and returning them afterwards. Museums are my life but there is and always will be a great sadness when you observe the thefts that go unmentioned.
From your experience, is it true that all the exhibited artworks (especially paintings) are not originals? I heard this information in a documentary and it made a lot of sense bc there’s no way museums would put up originals for the public. No?
What i was thinking alllll the way through
Thank you for putting up this question it helped us in debate competition
They may have purchased stolen painting but I highly doubt they stole them
"Ranking only behind gun and drug trafficking". Government agencies always seem to omit human trafficking from statistics..
You would have to be a real heel to steal these precious shoes. … no …. How bout. These thieves obviously had no sole…
Soul not sole
Where's Waldamar?
came here looking for Waldo meself as well
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@Claudette Delphis What are all the 'emogies/icons' supposed to mean??? Are they 'decoration'?, 'secret code'? or just 'internet mindless drivel?'
Get those dirty thefts!
The thieves that stole those slippers were professionals and, FABUUUUUULLLLLOOOOUUUUSSSSS!!!!!!!
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I don’t understand the economics of art theft. Are they stealing on spec or are they stealing to order? If stealing from a gallery where all the works of art are documented it must be very hard to sell. Gold can be melted down and jewels can be reset. Cash can be laundered. Paintings have a base value of close to zero - some wood canvas and paint. All the value is in the skill of the artist and the name recognition of the artist. Do we believe that there are reclusive billionaires with clandestine art collections or am I missing something?
Im wondering the exact same thing.. idk at this point if I had a buyer.. I'd be an art thief but I just don't see that happening like you said it's hard to understand how this would benefit both the buyer and seller without getting them in some major trouble..with that said if any millionaires need anything feel free to contact me 😂
i love everything about Perspective, but calling anyone a Brueghel is a bit of a stretch!
At 1.5 x playback speed the narrator sounds like Dan Ackroyd
Museums are in on it
What’s on my wall goes back to the museum upon my death
What all this stolen art amounts to, is lost revenue.
A large part of the annual product is not producing a return to society.
A $40 million dollar Picasso is not making more money as a stolen piece of art.
Art projects, museum staff and services, are less $40 million poorer and society pays the bill instead of the art piece earning its own money.
What does the woman say about tobacco and sugar?
You should combine the 2 , go ahead take my word for it
Lock up all of the real art in an undisclosed location, vet your employees, especially security to the nth degree, & let the public view copies.
Put the originals online HD also for the public to view.
Monitor the dark web.
You'll probably find tons of stolen art.
Noooo! Seeing the original is the point. The strokes, the colours, the materials.
Not guna happen. To see copies it would have to be free like a library. Then no one would afford the upkeep of the gallery.
@@no-gy9uk We see FREE originals in the National Gallery of Art, Smithsonian and other museums & galleries in Washington, DC. One of the many reasons it's such a great place to live! No one will waste time or money to see copies. Who would even THINK of that?
Ren- waahh
Rather poor start - the 3 stolen objects could be replaced from a bric-a-brac stall, so can't say the researcher earned their fee...
Why would you make a shoe museum? Why would you steal shoes from a shoe museum? Why would you make a documentary about stealing shoes from a shoe museum? The answer can be found in Sex in the City Season 2 Episode 12. Still fairly boring documentary about art theft. For me that is a first.
If you have recommendations, please share :)
starts at 0:37
. . . should be "vaults off premises." sorry
Many of them are fakes anyway…
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Is it easy to steal from young artists 9_10years old? 🤕🤒📡Well not really
I would have put my money on Oprah.
It’s good to steel especially things that rich people like
Had to turn off cuz of intro music
you pay to. get your art stolen
you get the insurance
you get your art back
everyone wins
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THIS IS LIKE SOMEONE STEALING AN OLD PAIR OF SHOES !
OH DEM GOLDEN SLIPPERS,,,,,,OVER & OVER & OVER & OVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!