Excellent video as usual. Roessler make great rifles, i think i am correct in saying they took over production of the ill-fated Mauser straight pull. Austria makes some fantastic firearms, anything out of Ferlach is sublime, people like Peter Hofer, Fanzoj and Hambrusch make guns that are as good as it is possible to be.
Hey ro eng - you're the first person to mention Peter. I know Peter - very fine man. Some people think his creations can be over the top but he'll build any style as you know. Peter's Hummingbird is an absolute masterpiece.
Although I've never handled a Rosler, anything firearms related from Austria or Germany is just about guaranteed to top-notch. I agree with your point about aluminum being so easy to scuff up. That Rosler had two great features as far as I'm concerned, 30-06 & irons. Simply classic!
The number in the model name stands for the number of locking lugs, hence the Rößler Titan 16 with its doubled up Ar15-like bolt Head. You are right, the receiver is made of aluminum. However, steel is available as an option. It is always great to see what I would consider typical European hunting rifles on your channel.
The screws @ 5: 18 are M6 DIN 6912 " Ribe ", a very old german patend. They require a different special allen key " Inbus mit Führungszapfen DIN 6911 " or they get demaged like clearly seen on Your rifle ... Get some screws and the matching key from german E- Bay ( WWW. E Bay.de )
The number 6 indicates the number of lugs. 3, 6 or 16. You can configure any of your rifles. The 6 in this link: www.titan6.com/en/konfigurator/titan-3-_-titan-6 The final price ranges between 2000 and more than 3000 Euros if you choose the most expensive options. With the same base you can, for example, configure a hunting rifle with a hair trigger, or a shooting rifle with a specific stock and everything you need. You can choose the steel receiver and barrels of different thicknesses and up to 70 cm.
mchughcb - I’m afraid they’re generally considered crap by everyone, everywhere. I don’t think you have a clue what you’re talking about. Have you had anything to do with titans? The importer here, stopped the import because they were drowning in complaints. And, they were not even a top seller. The most common error was cracked wood, rust and action problems. All this happened during a 2 year period. Stay away from these low quality rifles, as far away as you can.....
Very much like a Sauer action with a Browning X-Bolt magazine assembly. I wonder why people do not discuss weight reduction in relation to caliber size. I find most of the newer rifles to be light for caliber above a 308. It was a standard discussion topic in my youth.
I own this type of riffle for nearly 4 years , it's very light weight , therefore I'm using it all the time. So far so good , don't have problems with it. I don't like that the riffle sights are not adjust straight from the factory like some manufacturers
I still have my Rossler as well - quite a handy and accurate rifle. I know what you mean about the sights - would be nice if the factory set them. Take care.
Aluminum receiver, plastic trigger guard and mag gate, hard to cock bolt, removable magazine. Is it just me or is there something wrong with that combination of components?
The Stolle Panda action is made from aluminum with a steel insert for the barrel and it has been working for over 40 years so I do not see why this action will not be safe to shoot.And there are a lot of rifles with plastic trigger guards and floor plates.
Miner Blue - You’re 100% correct in doubting. They’re generally considered crap. The importer here (Normark), stopped the import because they were drowning in complaints. The most common error was cracked wood, rust and action problems. All this happened during a 2 year period.
It is a fantastic hunting rifle with amazing presicion. You can get EVERY configuration and caliber in a true left-hand version. As standard rifle in .308 with a black polymer stock for roundabout 1.300 euro.
Hello there, it's me again from Malta Europe. I'm out looking for a modern rifle chambered in 8x57, and considering a number of options - including Rossler, Mauser M18, Sauer, Voere, Haenel and perhaps Anschutz as well. The Rossler is a very interesting firearm made with quality craftsmanship. Alloy receiver is not an issue - except for scratching - but I have a few and not being a very super-careful owner, I can assure you it takes a lot to scratch one, though in hunting it is a bit easier. Back to the Rossler - I like the one you have, though I am a bit concerned at the wear I see on the hexagonal bolt heads. Looks like someone was a bit too enthusiastic when tightening them 04:37 ?? Anyways, as regards prices, these here start from about $ 1,300 equivalent for a polymer stock (new). A wood stock one in 30-06 could go up to $ 1,800. I won't mind getting a Ruger in 8x57, but for logistic issues sometimes prefer a European made firearm. Also, I am a bit wary about the way US gun manufacturers appear to drop models without warning. Or worse still, selling off subsidiary companies. An alternative to my 8x57 might be a barrel replacement for my Strasser rifle (which is still on the way). The barrel costs almost as much as a used rifle, but mu gun room is getting pretty crowded so a barrel would suffice. Best regards & keep up the great work with your channel.
Hi Jon - Thanks for writing. All the rifles you list are excellent as you know. I'd buy a Mauser M18 - only because the one I shot was target rifle accurate and worked perfectly; also the stock dimensions are less bulky than many. The extra barrel option is good - and the Strasser is out-of-this-world brilliant - but a separate rifles offers so much more IMHO. The Anschutz is my second choice. Truly - you can't miss with any of them. All the best to you and I appreciate your generous words.
Good video Sir, I understand what You mean about aluminum receivers. My old Mossberg 835 has a lot of wear and tear, the receiver is starting to turn purple. On this shotgun I kind of like it though as it adds character. God Bless You Sir, I am a little under the weather right now, and am resting.
Hi Rick! Maybe they all need to switch to the new powder type coatings. The anodizing can be unforgiving and do the strange color change things you mention. I still like steel and blue - nothing else even comes close. I wish you a speedy recovery to full health. As a fantastic Cree guide told me way up in the North country years ago " Healing is in the wind; you only have to reach up and let it become part of you." I send healing winds your way Rick. God Bless.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I traded a H&R pardener for it and got 50$ so not too bad a price I will have to glass bed the stock though lots of weak spots and a couple cracks
That certainly is an interesting rifle design out of Austria. Something of note that I don't know if you noticed is how the lugs (at least from what I saw in the video) are the same diameter as the bolt body. Thus, the bolt seems to have drawn inspiration for part of its design from the Weatherby Mark V. While I understand that there is a preference for light rifles when hunting in the mountains, I think people tend to forget that recoil in a rifle (so long as the selected rifle load and caliber is constant) increases by the same percentage as the weight that is removed. So a gun that weighs 25% less will kick 25% harder. Sadly, what I come across in the used section in numerous gun shops are quite a few lightweight mountain rifles chambered in magnum calibers that are practically new. Anyways, I look forward to your video comparing the P14/P17 to the 1903 Springfield.
What you wrote should be posted in gun stores. The magnums perform as published - but my goodness - I run into eager young shooters and hunters with these 7 lb. magnums - the recoil is punishing; and I've done so much shooting that I know that even people who tell me they don't mind recoil or even like recoil : don't like recoil. One fellow offered me his .300 Win. Mag. for $200. less than he paid after a few days of ownership and one range trip. He said "It is like getting punched in the head." I suppose boxers have that happen all the time but I'm not sure they like it either. Anyway, great post. An 8 lb. '06 is okay and the weight needs to go up from there or the rifles are simply to brutal on the user. Although those brakes can work wonders and decibels as well. As for the weight and hunting - I think men (and women) are strong - we can all carry a rifle.
I named my 9.5 lb. unbraked .338 winmag "Freight Train" because the bullets hit like a freight train, and she kicks like a freight train. In regard to the recoil that is part of her personality. That being said, I also don't shoot round after round down range nor expect to go through box after box of ammo like I can with a milder recoiling firearm. I also don't shoot her wearing just a t-shirt. I agree with you on the 8 lb. '06 being okay, and I recommend such a gun for use as an elk rifle. For deer I recommend a rifle chambered in 7mm-08 or similar caliber. Now there are numerous other great calibers for such game, but when it comes to eager young hunters or people new to hunting and shooting I generally use these calibers as guidelines for good hunting calibers. The .30-06 is the largest caliber I will recommend to such shooters as she is around the maximum for recoil without causing a flinch in the average shooter. What quite a few people need to resolve is the simple truth that lightweight rifles require light recoiling calibers. If they do that then they will have a nice hunting rig that doesn't feel like they just got punched by Mike Tyson after each trigger pull.
Sir!!! Great video just learned about the rossler titan I've never heard about that brand thanks!! Have you ever looked at the mondragon rifle or know anything on it!!! Thanks good evening sir!!
Hi Aldo - I had one...20 years ago - had no money or time; young and just surviving. I'll find one and make a video. Thanks for the idea and God Bless.
I got one for a couple of years now. Rössler Titan 6 Exclusive (another wood) ). I don't think about the hard bolt release, it's easy and fast to do a double tap. Instead of a silencer I got a muzzle break, almost no recoil (.308) and wake up your hunting-friends when you shoot. I am not a hunting-dog owner. The only thing I want to get better is the magasin, you can't be soft in your hand then you reload because the cartridge will not enter the chamber, too big magasin to fit also bigger cartridge. Bought in Sweden but if I won't a new caliber I have to bay in Denmark, closest for me.
Thanks Goran - that has to be a fantastic rifle - I've never seen the Exclusiv over here. In any model though - that is a very fine bolt action. All the best.
USOG, can you compare some Budget rifles, and their features? Id like to see the new version stock, Savage AXIS, vs Ruger American Rifle, and maybe some similar competitors are put together, and how they mate to the stock. Quality wise what is a person getting for the money. Strengths and weaknesses? I know, with the Mossberg Patriots, there isnt much support in how the actions mates to stock, that is why I wont buy one, unless possibly a chassis style stock. Its too bad, because they are a good looking rifle in the wood version, and Ive heard they are good shooters. Just curious how worth it some of these budget minded rifles are, or maybe better to find used better quality ones perhaps similarly priced and better quality of the past, that would cost more to replicate now. The new stocked Axis seems to feel better, would be nice to see a version 2 Ruger American stock that is a little more rigid. I noticed Kimber does a nice job in their cheaper stocks using a honey comb style molding, that makes it pretty rigid and still light. Hope to see some more shooting vids.
Hello! Yes, Norbert asked me for pictures and I had them taken for him. I don't have the book yet but he said he would send to me in return. Thanks for letting me know.
USOG awesome !👍 I like the red and blue backgrounds. The pictures look really professional. I got the book yesterday. It is brand new, so I guess it will still take some time until it reaches you. Ask him to also send you his book "Der Drilling". The Drilling is Part 1, the Doppelbüchse is part 2 of his 4 part book-series. Best regards from Germany
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns that's interesting. After i sent you a message i looked up on Roessler's site and they say that it does? different model perhaps? Also the Roessler would be about a $2k purchase (A tall order for most of us) the benefits of a switch barrel is clear. Being able to keep the same feel and consistency in handling but switch caliber for the situation. but wouldnt it be easier (and cheaper) for an american to simply buy the same rifle in two separate calibers? for instance i want a CZ 550 in .243 and in 7.62x39. both of these would cost about $750 (fully outfitted)
I have a titan 6 in 30-06. The safety has 2 steps. In the first, it only locks the trigger, but you can still unlock and work the bolt. In the second step/mode it locks the trigger and the bolt. So yes, it locks the bolt. Good day
Nice video as always and yes the change barrel system same as the Blaser R8 and MAUSER M03 and the merkel RX Helix and the high end model the have is the titen 16 and we have it in Australia the go for 4000 up to 1000 Can you please make a review about the titen 16 Best regards Romeo
Hi. I tried cycling the bolt of my friends titan 6 and it is very smooth. Remembered me a bit of steyr mannlicher luxus. Than I tried cycling titan 16 and I must say that I disliked it very much. The bolt handle is positioned too much forward(the sam day I tried also blaser, merkel helix, and heym and all were 100 times better than titan)
My main concerns when buying a hunting rifle is: - quality - safety - precision - that I can load it as silent as possible - this seems to be very loud
Håkan Spuhr (creator of the famous spuhr mounts that longrange guys and so on use) wrote a scating review of the rossler and in essence the whole company of which he used to be a employee www.jaktsidan.se/ipb/topic/12404-r%C3%B6ssler/ translated "Deffintivt den värsta testen jag någonsin skrivit." worst article I ever wrote" and he doesn't mean that the article is bad but the rifle. the link to the article is broken but that is him in the forum
interestingly the 30-06 became one of, if not the most widely used cartridges here in central europe. a lot of genuine alpine rifles get chambered for that round.
I didn't know that. Very interesting. I've had so many 7X64s and 8X68S and 6.5X68s - and my German friends look down on many things American. For all that has been said and done though - I stand by the '06 - the greatest and most universal cartridge of all time. There are better cartridges for specific purposes but overall, the '06 does just about everything that needs to be done. The .308 is close - but it is short - and that, contrary to what many think, is not the great advantage it is supposed to be.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I absolutely share your opinion regarding the .30-06! Here in Germany I use that Round on my custom made 98 on basis of an 1909 Argentino Mauser to hunt every kind of game we have. The only limitations i've encountered so far is on heavy wild boar and stag where it happens that the projectile doesn't exit the body which makes the tracking harder but most times no problem with the right hound.
Normally I just admire every firearm you show but there is to much to dislike about this rifle I'm sure it has some good qualities some where but from the ugly stock to the aluminum receiver to small bolts with barrel switching screws are just to much for me. As always I love the details and your firearm knowledge thank you
Rather controversial rifle. Seems like gunshop owners have big bias against it. Aluminum receiver and way barrel is changed and secured. I made some research before buying it and discovered people who used it talk highly of it. Out of box it shoots sub MOA in expert hands. I made 1.5 MOA. Mine is in .308 and is my deer rifle now. On the long run maybe having steel receiver would make sleep easier. My friend is using one for seven years regularly changing between .243 and 9.3x62 barrels. No headspace issues.
Hi Silvano - Very fine rifle - the bolt locks into the barrel - as you know - so no need for a steel receiver; the lock up is steel to steel - with the receiver just holding the parts in place. .308 is just about an ideal cal.
The rifle in this review is a cheap version (actually, no current version has a plain wood like that) and frankly looks odd. It seems it has been poorly modified. You can have it all steel if you like with plenty of choice of barrels (length, profile, finish) for any caliber you pick and different styles and woods for the stock. Recently also with full carbon stock. Having a lighter rifle is big advantage for those who stalk on the mountains like in Austria and many other European places while shooting past 400 yards means poor hunting skills 99% of the time. Make no mistake it is a smooth, reliable, accurate hunting rifle in any finish you get it. For longer range TARGET shooting there are specific versions.
I've looked at Ceracoat and Gunkote and others for a few years - nice alternatives to bluing on steel and anodizing on aluminum. I had maybe 3 rifles treated. Surface preparation, as usual, seems to be critical. In the best case the coating adheres quite well and some claim to be part of the steel or aluminum after proper application. There were all kinds of coatings and heat cured adhesive materials around the turn of the century - as in 1900. The recent finishes seem to be durable and must be improvements over the finishes of the past. Aluminum needs something - and Ceracoat may well be the cat's pajamas.
I am NOT a fan of Aluminum Receivers. Their will be attacks from many but I am a retired A&P mechanic and Aluminum does not possess the elasticity of steel.
Hi David - I'm fairly sure most prefer steel. Aluminum is lighter I suppose and plastic, lighter still and then there are are other materials. I still prefer steel and most people I know do as well. Thanks for the note.
I’m afraid they’re generally considered crap by everyone, everywhere. The importer here (Normark), stopped the import because they were drowning in complaints. And, the Titan rifles were not even top sellers. The most common error was cracked wood, rust and action problems. All this happened during a 2 year period. Stay away from these low quality rifles, as far away as you can.....
Hi Patrik - Thanks for the note. I've heard that as well. I also receive a lot of very positive comments. I guess it is the same for every gun and just about everything : some good, some bad, some people like and some people dont't. I can't find many or any others to compare to - either they are all in recycling or their owners like them and don't sell. I'm not sure. All the best.
USOG - Well, I don’t know. But when rust appear within 2 years, they do have manufacture/production problem. A lot of high quality producers have had transmission problem trough out the years, but solved them. So, that could happen even the best. But the amount of complaints were alarming. As you mention, I haven’t seen many on the market either. And if the rifle is working, it’s working. But I’d stay away from it😄 Thanks for nice video productions!👍
@@patrikpersson9364 I have a Titan 6 And I love this rifle. It's super quality and very precise. I also have Sauer 202 Euro Classic in 300 Win. Mag. and my Titan is just as good as the Sauer. All in all a top noch rifle!
Jannie Christensen - Maybe your exact rifle is top noch, but all tests and the all time high complaints tells us another story. No smoke without fire, and this particular smoke is heavy as concrete. I wouldn’t recommend a master in complaints, because there’s a lot of great and decent rifles out there. But as long as you’re happy, it’s all that matters. A lot of people hate my rifle, because of its function. But in my opinion, it’s the best rifle I’ve ever owned or tested. But all negativity comes from people who never even held it in their hands. It’s a Krieghoff Semprio.
@@patrikpersson9364 I have one made under the Mauser brand, made before Roesler bought the produktion rights. with the 6,5x55 barrel if i load 5 in the mag, and one in the barrel, shot no one in the mag is a flyer. the one in the barrel, and the other four in the mag group well. and if i load one in the barrel, and four in the mag, those five group well. The ejektor needs to be keept clean and lubricated, to work well.
This is by far the worst rifle I have ever owned. Its mounted with a Zeiss Victory HT 3x12-56. And it is simply not able to make anything that just resembles a group. And I know that the obvious mistake is a "pilot-error" But I do not suddenly go from making very good groups to shitty groups in a day. The rifle instructor fired 4 shots and just told me that "this is shit, you need to get it all disassembled and re-bedded. The gunsmith cleaned the barrel and asked me if i did not do this at all. I informed him that the rifle was 4 years old, and had not shot 50 shots in its entire life. He said the barrel was full of something called "Tompap" or something. He could not explain how this was able to be a problem when the weapon had not fired a huge amount of rounds.
Hi jimmie - great note - thanks for sending. I've seen two or three like this. The barrel can move around slightly on some rifles due to the "clamp" take down system. Also check for the spacer which is part of the clamp. If there is no spacer - sometimes one can make one - it is fairly thin and is flat - easy to improvise. If there is no intention to have several barrels people epoxy the barrel into the receiver ring. Bedding the action/stock is always nice but on the Rossler it often is that loose front ring that can be nasty. Hope this makes sense and good luck - they are good rifles and quite accurate but not with the loose barrel thing happening.
USOG hey, I’ve handed it over to the gunsmith (also the seller) to zero it. It was on the range today. Don’t know the result as of now. Can I attach pictures on this platform? It’s actually my virgin voyage ever commenting on YT. I’m assuming that the smith checked if the barrel was sloppy?
Another enjoyable discussion. I love European rifles! Thanks so much....
Titan 6 have six locking lugs, Titan 3 have three locking lugs, Titan 16 (straight pull) hav 16 locking lugs. Hence the name.
This is why I love this channel... showing guns that I have never heard of. I always learn something new.
Thanks SRT Mike! Glad you're on board.
Excellent video as usual. Roessler make great rifles, i think i am correct in saying they took over production of the ill-fated Mauser straight pull. Austria makes some fantastic firearms, anything out of Ferlach is sublime, people like Peter Hofer, Fanzoj and Hambrusch make guns that are as good as it is possible to be.
Hey ro eng - you're the first person to mention Peter. I know Peter - very fine man. Some people think his creations can be over the top but he'll build any style as you know. Peter's Hummingbird is an absolute masterpiece.
Although I've never handled a Rosler, anything firearms related from Austria or Germany is just about guaranteed to top-notch. I agree with your point about aluminum being so easy to scuff up.
That Rosler had two great features as far as I'm concerned, 30-06 & irons. Simply classic!
Yes Paul - I hear you - would make a fine title for a book - 30-06 & Irons : As Good As It Gets.
So much variety! Thank you for the interesting video.
I've never heard you less enthusiastic about a gun. That says something.
I didn't realize
The number in the model name stands for the number of locking lugs, hence the Rößler Titan 16 with its doubled up Ar15-like bolt Head.
You are right, the receiver is made of aluminum. However, steel is available as an option.
It is always great to see what I would consider typical European hunting rifles on your channel.
Thank you - I had no idea steel is available. Clearly a fine and well liked rifle.
The screws @ 5: 18 are M6 DIN 6912 " Ribe ", a very old german patend. They require a different special allen key " Inbus mit Führungszapfen DIN 6911 " or they get demaged like clearly seen on Your rifle ... Get some screws and the matching key from german E- Bay ( WWW. E Bay.de )
The number 6 indicates the number of lugs. 3, 6 or 16.
You can configure any of your rifles. The 6 in this link: www.titan6.com/en/konfigurator/titan-3-_-titan-6
The final price ranges between 2000 and more than 3000 Euros if you choose the most expensive options. With the same base you can, for example, configure a hunting rifle with a hair trigger, or a shooting rifle with a specific stock and everything you need. You can choose the steel receiver and barrels of different thicknesses and up to 70 cm.
I love this guy, reviewing our common available guns. Waidmannsheil from Germany
Thank you Johannes!
One my local dealers was in the main importer for these rifles in Australia. They are good quality for sure.
mchughcb - I’m afraid they’re generally considered crap by everyone, everywhere.
I don’t think you have a clue what you’re talking about. Have you had anything to do with titans?
The importer here, stopped the import because they were drowning in complaints. And, they were not even a top seller. The most common error was cracked wood, rust and action problems. All this happened during a 2 year period.
Stay away from these low quality rifles, as far away as you can.....
Very much like a Sauer action with a Browning X-Bolt magazine assembly. I wonder why people do not discuss weight reduction in relation to caliber size. I find most of the newer rifles to be light for caliber above a 308. It was a standard discussion topic in my youth.
put a supressor on the rifle evens out the recoil.
Great review
I own this type of riffle for nearly 4 years , it's very light weight , therefore I'm using it all the time. So far so good , don't have problems with it. I don't like that the riffle sights are not adjust straight from the factory like some manufacturers
I still have my Rossler as well - quite a handy and accurate rifle. I know what you mean about the sights - would be nice if the factory set them. Take care.
Nice video and that looks like a very well thought out designed rifle.
Aluminum receiver, plastic trigger guard and mag gate, hard to cock bolt, removable magazine.
Is it just me or is there something wrong with that combination of components?
The Stolle Panda action is made from aluminum with a steel insert for the barrel and it has been working for over 40 years so I do not see why this action will not be safe to shoot.And there are a lot of rifles with plastic trigger guards and floor plates.
Miner Blue - You’re 100% correct in doubting. They’re generally considered crap. The importer here (Normark), stopped the import because they were drowning in complaints. The most common error was cracked wood, rust and action problems. All this happened during a 2 year period.
Hola tengo un problema con el seguro una vez montado el cerrojo, no me deja poner el seguro
It is a fantastic hunting rifle with amazing presicion. You can get EVERY configuration and caliber in a true left-hand version. As standard rifle in .308 with a black polymer stock for roundabout 1.300 euro.
Thank you - I didn't know about all the different versions and options. Thanks for noting.
Hello there, it's me again from Malta Europe. I'm out looking for a modern rifle chambered in 8x57, and considering a number of options - including Rossler, Mauser M18, Sauer, Voere, Haenel and perhaps Anschutz as well. The Rossler is a very interesting firearm made with quality craftsmanship. Alloy receiver is not an issue - except for scratching - but I have a few and not being a very super-careful owner, I can assure you it takes a lot to scratch one, though in hunting it is a bit easier. Back to the Rossler - I like the one you have, though I am a bit concerned at the wear I see on the hexagonal bolt heads. Looks like someone was a bit too enthusiastic when tightening them 04:37 ?? Anyways, as regards prices, these here start from about $ 1,300 equivalent for a polymer stock (new). A wood stock one in 30-06 could go up to $ 1,800. I won't mind getting a Ruger in 8x57, but for logistic issues sometimes prefer a European made firearm. Also, I am a bit wary about the way US gun manufacturers appear to drop models without warning. Or worse still, selling off subsidiary companies.
An alternative to my 8x57 might be a barrel replacement for my Strasser rifle (which is still on the way). The barrel costs almost as much as a used rifle, but mu gun room is getting pretty crowded so a barrel would suffice.
Best regards & keep up the great work with your channel.
Hi Jon - Thanks for writing. All the rifles you list are excellent as you know. I'd buy a Mauser M18 - only because the one I shot was target rifle accurate and worked perfectly; also the stock dimensions are less bulky than many. The extra barrel option is good - and the Strasser is out-of-this-world brilliant - but a separate rifles offers so much more IMHO. The Anschutz is my second choice. Truly - you can't miss with any of them. All the best to you and I appreciate your generous words.
Good video Sir, I understand what You mean about aluminum receivers. My old Mossberg 835 has a lot of wear and tear, the receiver is starting to turn purple. On this shotgun I kind of like it though as it adds character. God Bless You Sir, I am a little under the weather right now, and am resting.
Hi Rick! Maybe they all need to switch to the new powder type coatings. The anodizing can be unforgiving and do the strange color change things you mention. I still like steel and blue - nothing else even comes close. I wish you a speedy recovery to full health. As a fantastic Cree guide told me way up in the North country years ago " Healing is in the wind; you only have to reach up and let it become part of you." I send healing winds your way Rick. God Bless.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thank You My Friend
shares some of the technology from the mauser96 staight pull. The barrel locking block is identical.
Really enjoy your great videos.
Perhaps you could use a trigger pull gauge to measure the bolt lift?
Good idea Michael - I'll have to find one. I used to use a fishing scale in the cave days. : )
I'll be picking up a Stevens bolt action 20 gauge Friday
Home run gun - useful in every way and usually well priced. Good buy!
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I traded a H&R pardener for it and got 50$ so not too bad a price I will have to glass bed the stock though lots of weak spots and a couple cracks
Also have a m57 7.62x25 coming in this week only paid 189 for it
Good gauge and should be a nice shooting shotgun too.
@@regsparkes6507 yeah I'm gonna read do the whole stock gonna be a fun Christmas project
That certainly is an interesting rifle design out of Austria. Something of note that I don't know if you noticed is how the lugs (at least from what I saw in the video) are the same diameter as the bolt body. Thus, the bolt seems to have drawn inspiration for part of its design from the Weatherby Mark V.
While I understand that there is a preference for light rifles when hunting in the mountains, I think people tend to forget that recoil in a rifle (so long as the selected rifle load and caliber is constant) increases by the same percentage as the weight that is removed. So a gun that weighs 25% less will kick 25% harder. Sadly, what I come across in the used section in numerous gun shops are quite a few lightweight mountain rifles chambered in magnum calibers that are practically new.
Anyways, I look forward to your video comparing the P14/P17 to the 1903 Springfield.
What you wrote should be posted in gun stores. The magnums perform as published - but my goodness - I run into eager young shooters and hunters with these 7 lb. magnums - the recoil is punishing; and I've done so much shooting that I know that even people who tell me they don't mind recoil or even like recoil : don't like recoil. One fellow offered me his .300 Win. Mag. for $200. less than he paid after a few days of ownership and one range trip. He said "It is like getting punched in the head." I suppose boxers have that happen all the time but I'm not sure they like it either. Anyway, great post. An 8 lb. '06 is okay and the weight needs to go up from there or the rifles are simply to brutal on the user. Although those brakes can work wonders and decibels as well. As for the weight and hunting - I think men (and women) are strong - we can all carry a rifle.
I named my 9.5 lb. unbraked .338 winmag "Freight Train" because the bullets hit like a freight train, and she kicks like a freight train. In regard to the recoil that is part of her personality. That being said, I also don't shoot round after round down range nor expect to go through box after box of ammo like I can with a milder recoiling firearm. I also don't shoot her wearing just a t-shirt.
I agree with you on the 8 lb. '06 being okay, and I recommend such a gun for use as an elk rifle. For deer I recommend a rifle chambered in 7mm-08 or similar caliber. Now there are numerous other great calibers for such game, but when it comes to eager young hunters or people new to hunting and shooting I generally use these calibers as guidelines for good hunting calibers. The .30-06 is the largest caliber I will recommend to such shooters as she is around the maximum for recoil without causing a flinch in the average shooter.
What quite a few people need to resolve is the simple truth that lightweight rifles require light recoiling calibers. If they do that then they will have a nice hunting rig that doesn't feel like they just got punched by Mike Tyson after each trigger pull.
Rößler Titan 16 300 wsm what will you say? Will there be a next video?
Yes, if I can find : )
Sir!!! Great video just learned about the rossler titan I've never heard about that brand thanks!! Have you ever looked at the mondragon rifle or know anything on it!!! Thanks good evening sir!!
Hi Aldo - I had one...20 years ago - had no money or time; young and just surviving. I'll find one and make a video. Thanks for the idea and God Bless.
I got one for a couple of years now. Rössler Titan 6 Exclusive (another wood) ). I don't think about the hard bolt release, it's easy and fast to do a double tap. Instead of a silencer I got a muzzle break, almost no recoil (.308) and wake up your hunting-friends when you shoot. I am not a hunting-dog owner.
The only thing I want to get better is the magasin, you can't be soft in your hand then you reload because the cartridge will not enter the chamber, too big magasin to fit also bigger cartridge.
Bought in Sweden but if I won't a new caliber I have to bay in Denmark, closest for me.
Thanks Goran - that has to be a fantastic rifle - I've never seen the Exclusiv over here. In any model though - that is a very fine bolt action. All the best.
USOG, can you compare some Budget rifles, and their features? Id like to see the new version stock, Savage AXIS, vs Ruger American Rifle, and maybe some similar competitors are put together, and how they mate to the stock. Quality wise what is a person getting for the money. Strengths and weaknesses? I know, with the Mossberg Patriots, there isnt much support in how the actions mates to stock, that is why I wont buy one, unless possibly a chassis style stock. Its too bad, because they are a good looking rifle in the wood version, and Ive heard they are good shooters. Just curious how worth it some of these budget minded rifles are, or maybe better to find used better quality ones perhaps similarly priced and better quality of the past, that would cost more to replicate now. The new stocked Axis seems to feel better, would be nice to see a version 2 Ruger American stock that is a little more rigid. I noticed Kimber does a nice job in their cheaper stocks using a honey comb style molding, that makes it pretty rigid and still light. Hope to see some more shooting vids.
What a great idea. Will do. Thank you!
USOG, is it possible that there are pictures of your double barrel falling block in the new book from Norbert Klups "Die Doppelbüchse" ?
Hello! Yes, Norbert asked me for pictures and I had them taken for him. I don't have the book yet but he said he would send to me in return. Thanks for letting me know.
USOG awesome !👍
I like the red and blue backgrounds. The pictures look really professional.
I got the book yesterday. It is brand new, so I guess it will still take some time until it reaches you.
Ask him to also send you his book "Der Drilling". The Drilling is Part 1, the Doppelbüchse is part 2 of his 4 part book-series.
Best regards from Germany
I refuse to have a rifle that doesnt lock the bolt with the safety. does the safety lock the bolt?
Good on you Brendon - no it doesn't.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns that's interesting. After i sent you a message i looked up on Roessler's site and they say that it does? different model perhaps? Also the Roessler would be about a $2k purchase (A tall order for most of us) the benefits of a switch barrel is clear. Being able to keep the same feel and consistency in handling but switch caliber for the situation. but wouldnt it be easier (and cheaper) for an american to simply buy the same rifle in two separate calibers? for instance i want a CZ 550 in .243 and in 7.62x39. both of these would cost about $750 (fully outfitted)
I have a titan 6 in 30-06. The safety has 2 steps. In the first, it only locks the trigger, but you can still unlock and work the bolt. In the second step/mode it locks the trigger and the bolt. So yes, it locks the bolt. Good day
the 6 stands for the number of locking lugs on the bolt, there's also a Titan 3.
I had no idea - thank you!
Nice video as always and yes the change barrel system same as the Blaser R8 and MAUSER M03 and the merkel RX Helix and the high end model the have is the titen 16 and we have it in Australia the go for 4000 up to 1000
Can you please make a review about the titen 16
Best regards
Romeo
Hi Romeo - I'll have to find one - and for sure make a video. Thank you.
Hi. I tried cycling the bolt of my friends titan 6 and it is very smooth. Remembered me a bit of steyr mannlicher luxus. Than I tried cycling titan 16 and I must say that I disliked it very much. The bolt handle is positioned too much forward(the sam day I tried also blaser, merkel helix, and heym and all were 100 times better than titan)
My main concerns when buying a hunting rifle is:
- quality
- safety
- precision
- that I can load it as silent as possible - this seems to be very loud
Good post; thank you
Why not take out the bolt, we are looking forward to know its structure and mechanism.
Good idea Green tangle - sometimes I miss obvious things - caught up in the moment I guess. Will do. Thanks for saying so.
Håkan Spuhr (creator of the famous spuhr mounts that longrange guys and so on use) wrote a scating review of the rossler and in essence the whole company of which he used to be a employee
www.jaktsidan.se/ipb/topic/12404-r%C3%B6ssler/ translated
"Deffintivt den värsta testen jag någonsin skrivit." worst article I ever wrote" and he doesn't mean that the article is bad but the rifle.
the link to the article is broken but that is him in the forum
I tried to open etc... - as you write - what is there doesn't sound good. Any idea what he found bad about the Rossler?
To be fair I am yet to see anyone run the bolt on any bolt action rifle without canting the stock as they do it.
Enjoyed your video last night, bang on the nail.
then you haven't run a smooth bolt action :P a sauer or schultz&larsen!
You have one M98 from Mauser Jagdwaffen to make a video?
Hello Cesar - I don't have a sporter - used to have a Model B. I'll make a video when I find one. Thank you.
Can you do some videos on a savage 24. Thank you!
Yes - thanks - I'll have to find one : )
interestingly the 30-06 became one of, if not the most widely used cartridges here in central europe. a lot of genuine alpine rifles get chambered for that round.
I didn't know that. Very interesting. I've had so many 7X64s and 8X68S and 6.5X68s - and my German friends look down on many things American. For all that has been said and done though - I stand by the '06 - the greatest and most universal cartridge of all time. There are better cartridges for specific purposes but overall, the '06 does just about everything that needs to be done. The .308 is close - but it is short - and that, contrary to what many think, is not the great advantage it is supposed to be.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I absolutely share your opinion regarding the .30-06! Here in Germany I use that Round on my custom made 98 on basis of an 1909 Argentino Mauser to hunt every kind of game we have. The only limitations i've encountered so far is on heavy wild boar and stag where it happens that the projectile doesn't exit the body which makes the tracking harder but most times no problem with the right hound.
Normally I just admire every firearm you show but there is to much to dislike about this rifle I'm sure it has some good qualities some where but from the ugly stock to the aluminum receiver to small bolts with barrel switching screws are just to much for me.
As always I love the details and your firearm knowledge thank you
Hi Bob - there seems to be a lot of dislike out there for this rifle. I need to learn more.
Did you end up getting a deer? I shot one with my Remington 742 chambered in 30-06
Hi Andrew - still nothing - I'll try again on the weekend. Congratulations on your deer! Nothing like venison!
That’s for sure, best of luck!
Rather controversial rifle. Seems like gunshop owners have big bias against it. Aluminum receiver and way barrel is changed and secured. I made some research before buying it and discovered people who used it talk highly of it. Out of box it shoots sub MOA in expert hands. I made 1.5 MOA. Mine is in .308 and is my deer rifle now. On the long run maybe having steel receiver would make sleep easier. My friend is using one for seven years regularly changing between .243 and 9.3x62 barrels. No headspace issues.
Hi Silvano - Very fine rifle - the bolt locks into the barrel - as you know - so no need for a steel receiver; the lock up is steel to steel - with the receiver just holding the parts in place. .308 is just about an ideal cal.
Grazia!
: )
I watched this twice trying to figure why an engineer would build this then I noticed the rear site so far forward it seems out of place
The rifle in this review is a cheap version (actually, no current version has a plain wood like that) and frankly looks odd. It seems it has been poorly modified. You can have it all steel if you like with plenty of choice of barrels (length, profile, finish) for any caliber you pick and different styles and woods for the stock. Recently also with full carbon stock. Having a lighter rifle is big advantage for those who stalk on the mountains like in Austria and many other European places while shooting past 400 yards means poor hunting skills 99% of the time. Make no mistake it is a smooth, reliable, accurate hunting rifle in any finish you get it. For longer range TARGET shooting there are specific versions.
The first time I didn't like a rifle you reviewed.
Hi David - Do they have a bad reputation? Please let me know - I'm quite interested as I have heard from other people as well. Thanks.
you don't need to invent a device to measure bolt lift, a luggage weighing scale from aldi will cut it.
This would be a high IQ solution. I also visualize something round that rolls : )
Ceracoating is the best way to treat aluminum.
I've looked at Ceracoat and Gunkote and others for a few years - nice alternatives to bluing on steel and anodizing on aluminum. I had maybe 3 rifles treated. Surface preparation, as usual,
seems to be critical. In the best case the coating adheres quite well and some claim to be part of the steel or aluminum after proper application. There were all kinds of coatings and heat cured adhesive materials around the turn of the century - as in 1900. The recent finishes seem to be durable and must be improvements over the finishes of the past. Aluminum needs something - and Ceracoat may well be the cat's pajamas.
I am NOT a fan of Aluminum Receivers. Their will be attacks from many but I am a retired A&P mechanic and Aluminum does not possess the elasticity of steel.
Hi David - I'm fairly sure most prefer steel. Aluminum is lighter I suppose and plastic, lighter still and then there are are other materials. I still prefer steel and most people I know do as well. Thanks for the note.
All new titans are better made and you can buy new one titan signature safe like blaser ore mauser M12, and change caliber.
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I noticed and thank you! I'll ask the web people to correct the title.
I’m afraid they’re generally considered crap by everyone, everywhere.
The importer here (Normark), stopped the import because they were drowning in complaints. And, the Titan rifles were not even top sellers. The most common error was cracked wood, rust and action problems. All this happened during a 2 year period.
Stay away from these low quality rifles, as far away as you can.....
Hi Patrik - Thanks for the note. I've heard that as well. I also receive a lot of very positive comments. I guess it is the same for every gun and just about everything : some good, some bad, some people like and some people dont't. I can't find many or any others to compare to - either they are all in recycling or their owners like them and don't sell. I'm not sure. All the best.
USOG - Well, I don’t know. But when rust appear within 2 years, they do have manufacture/production problem. A lot of high quality producers have had transmission problem trough out the years, but solved them. So, that could happen even the best. But the amount of complaints were alarming.
As you mention, I haven’t seen many on the market either. And if the rifle is working, it’s working. But I’d stay away from it😄
Thanks for nice video productions!👍
@@patrikpersson9364 I have a Titan 6 And I love this rifle. It's super quality and very
precise. I also have Sauer 202 Euro Classic in 300 Win. Mag. and my Titan is just as good as the Sauer. All in all a top noch rifle!
Jannie Christensen - Maybe your exact rifle is top noch, but all tests and the all time high complaints tells us another story. No smoke without fire, and this particular smoke is heavy as concrete. I wouldn’t recommend a master in complaints, because there’s a lot of great and decent rifles out there.
But as long as you’re happy, it’s all that matters.
A lot of people hate my rifle, because of its function. But in my opinion, it’s the best rifle I’ve ever owned or tested. But all negativity comes from people who never even held it in their hands. It’s a Krieghoff Semprio.
@@patrikpersson9364 I have one made under the Mauser brand, made before Roesler bought the produktion rights. with the 6,5x55 barrel if i load 5 in the mag, and one in the barrel, shot no one in the mag is a flyer.
the one in the barrel, and the other four in the mag group well.
and if i load one in the barrel, and four in the mag, those five group well.
The ejektor needs to be keept clean and lubricated, to work well.
This is by far the worst rifle I have ever owned. Its mounted with a Zeiss Victory HT 3x12-56. And it is simply not able to make anything that just resembles a group. And I know that the obvious mistake is a "pilot-error" But I do not suddenly go from making very good groups to shitty groups in a day. The rifle instructor fired 4 shots and just told me that "this is shit, you need to get it all disassembled and re-bedded. The gunsmith cleaned the barrel and asked me if i did not do this at all. I informed him that the rifle was 4 years old, and had not shot 50 shots in its entire life. He said the barrel was full of something called "Tompap" or something.
He could not explain how this was able to be a problem when the weapon had not fired a huge amount of rounds.
Hi jimmie - great note - thanks for sending. I've seen two or three like this. The barrel can move around slightly on some rifles due to the "clamp" take down system. Also check for the spacer which is part of the clamp. If there is no spacer - sometimes one can make one - it is fairly thin and is flat - easy to improvise. If there is no intention to have several barrels people epoxy the barrel into the receiver ring. Bedding the action/stock is always nice but on the Rossler it often is that loose front ring that can be nasty. Hope this makes sense and good luck - they are good rifles and quite accurate but not with the loose barrel thing happening.
USOG hey,
I’ve handed it over to the gunsmith (also the seller) to zero it.
It was on the range today. Don’t know the result as of now.
Can I attach pictures on this platform? It’s actually my virgin voyage ever commenting on YT.
I’m assuming that the smith checked if the barrel was sloppy?
theres a few around in Canada for just around 1K, simple google search will take you to the usual suspects
Thank you Adams KR