Fugue is not a name but a dissociative disorder that leads to a severe manifestation of dissociation and is part of amnesia, hence why she looked at her "old self" which means she lost her memories and feels disconnected from the world
Yea ur right with the second definition. The Chinese translation of Fugue is 忘归人 that means someone that has forgotten her past, origin and home so some level of memory loss is prob happening
Stupid as it sounds it is a possibility that Ruan Mei might’ve done something to Tingyun when she first found her possibly unconscious Looking at how past interactions with her and saw what she’s done it wouldn’t honestly surprise me that Ruan might have tampered with her somehow
That's literally the first thing I thought when I heard their conversation. DON'T TRUST RUAN MEI!! She definetly did something to Tingyun , I mean the nine tails didn't come from nowhere!
Fugue opens up what we thought would just happen to Astral Express members, now every 4 stars could get an alternate 5 stars depending on how their story goes. Love how star rail handle their characters.
I don't know whether we'll get alternate Welt or Himiko, and it *sounds* like we won't get a 5* March, but instead end up with 7 4* versions of her by the end. But we're getting a 5* Herta, which will be the third 4* --> 5* upgrade, so it's safe to assume that we'll see some more of that happening.
@@joshuadunham3018 I don't think there would be 7 4* versions of her. Most probably one or MAYBE two more 4*, but not any more most definitely. But there definitely would be a 5* March. Seeing how Honkai 3rd treats their characters, they have a lot of versions of the same characters, like a 4* seele(which was the earliest by the way), a 5* seele+veliona, a 5* herrscher version etc., even the veliona separately from seele is there. Same with Fu Hua and her having a lot of 4* and 5* versions, and her alter ego of HoS... I don't think HSR will have as much versions of the characters, but maybe 2-3 entirely different versions(including 4*, 5*) of the most loved characters is very possible. Imagine Emanator 5* March lol. Or have you heard Aeon Ratio theory? It is not about possible or not, it is a question about when (will the "better versions" of characters come). Most probably even 5* would get a second 5* version(s?) at some point in time by the way. Although it will be much more rare than in Hi3rd (considering how we go to different worlds a lot, always introducing new characters, instead of continuing meeting the same). So the contestants for different versions would be the Astral Express Crew, Stellaron Hunters, the Genius Club members(Herta, Ruan Mei), or other recurring characters regardless of nation (Ratio? Black Swan?).
Most likely to get upgraded is March, Herta (confirmed and there are leaks), and Sampo. Also Gallagher but not really (the fictionologist who created him). If a standard 5 star, I want it to be Yanqing with how relevant and cool he is in the recent Luofu Quests. Like dude carried it with Feixiao.
can't wait to cry when we meet her and: - she doesn't recognize us, or maybe even herself - we have to grapple with the fact that someone we mourned is "back from the dead" - she gets angry/sad at her belongings being randomly sent away - we find out wtf Ruan Mei did to her (girlie revived an emanator that destroyed planets, she def did something)
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 that’s what I mean. We’ll feel like we know her, but she won’t know us. That’s why it’s so sad, that’s where the drama comes from
@@danha3107 I really wonder what will be March 7th's reaction to seeing Tingyun alive. Will Phantylia having impersonated Tingyun in the past cause March to have trust issues? Or will she be super happy to see Tingyun alive, while the real Tingyun not understanding since we never met the real her before this? I can see March 7th going in either direction in response to the real Tingyun
Seriously, who actually thought she was dead? Not only did she not leave a corpse, but we also had multiple characters saying that her "death" was suspicious and that she was probably still alive. I still think it sucks that we didn't even get to meet the real Tingyun, which will make her "return" have zero emotional impact.
I mean not entirely, to us as players who had "met" her and watched her die maybe not. But when it comes to actual characters for them to watch her "die" should leave an impact on them.
@@DarkuleFox Yup. Especially since this is a Honkai series games. Tragedy WILL happen in a Honkai game. You won't get the always without death Genshin stays by. Honkai games, SOMEONE's going to die. And in GGZ's case, everyone died. Shaoji is writing Star Rail's story, who HI3rd Captains like myself, are very familiar he is not hesitant to give us an emotional suffering by killing off a character. The most infamous cutscene in HI3rd "Final Lesson" was his story writing. Genshin purists have no clue what's coming. Just because a character is playable in a Honkai series game, does not mean they will always avoid dying. ESPECIALLY with Shaoji writing Star Rail's story.
There was also the fact that feixiao found a merchant ship that had many dead and also implied that tingyun was supposed to be there but her body wasn't found. (most likely because ruan mei already took it as implied in the dialouge)
honestly, luofu quest kinda sucked. it wasn't like the story made you attached to tingyun before she died, she just died for shock factor. i mean i didnt even fully understand wth was happening with dhil and all the cloud quintet stuff. penacony was at least good with misha, gallagher not really (there was literally no impact too) and the fictionologist who created him is probably alive anyways. as for like the fakeouts, yeah they were kinda lame esp since theyd get ressurected anyways, especially ff's meaningless and sad bait "three deaths" idea. a lot of penacony story would still be the same if they remove some of the ideas and factions that just embellished it for no reason (e.g. three deaths, bh, argenti, annihalation gang, whatever the hell sparkle is doing there). Yes, I disliked the epilogue. It didnt resolve any of the glaring loose ends.
My hypothesis of why Fugue is Nihility is this: In the dialogue with Ruan Mei Tingyun says she is an amicassador, we don't know what they are but the word recalls the Latin term amicus (aka friend). Is it possible that the role of the amicassadors is to bring peace between Xianzhou and the other planets? What does it have to do with it? Well, if Tingyun's job was to bring PEACE, but by being possessed by Phantylia she allows her to wage WAR in Xianzhou, then everything Tingyun did in life was done for naught. (I know that's a lot similar to your Jiaoqiu theory but it seems credible to me)
Or maybe becs she died? Now that she is has comed back to life, she feels very nihilisti, I mean most things that she did might seems pointless to her now
We already know what Amicassadors do. They're meant to essentially be guides for outworld guests, especially high profile guests, around the Loufu. They're regarded as highly favored on the Loufu due to the knowledge Amicassadors need of different cultures as well as deep knowledge of how the Loufu works and places of interest. They're essentially well respected and highly qualified Tour Guides. While we don't know ALL of the duties of an Amicassador, we do know that they're also responsible for things that help keep the Loufu running such as Traffic Control and keeping track of anyone that enters and exists the Loufu. Tingyun being the Leader of the Whistling Flames Guild, which is the highest of the Amicassadors on the Loufu, meant her personally leading us around at that time meant we were very important guests. We might get more lore about things Amicassadors do when Fugue Tingyun comes out.
@@nicolas._.2294 Wrong, you cannot truly bring back the dead in a Honkai series game. Just look at Otto Apocalypse from Honkai Impact 3rd. He tried so hard to find a way to bring his beloved Kallen back from the dead, while extending his life by 500+ years to buy time searching for an answer. He tried cloning (which is where Theresa and the other Kallen clones came from), he tried getting in contact with the Honkai God through abusing Sirin's connection with them as a Herrscher (as seen in the Second Eruption manga), nothing he found could truly bring back the dead. His last and sorta successful attempt, was to have Kiana and Durandal kill him so that he's sent closer to the Imaginary Tree to manipulate it to create an alternate "branch" of the tree, where Kallen was not killed. Sacrificing himself while dead (somehow) to achieve that outcome. If Otto could not bring back the dead, I doubt even Ruan Mei could. If anything, I feel Ruan Mei used her science know-how to break out of a coma the real Tingyun was in. And before anyone points out Ruan Mei bringing back a powerful part of the Swarm, she merely replicated it. Not truly revived it from the dead as the bug self-destructed after a short time. You can restore the body, but cannot gather the pieces of the mind to fully restore the person to life. Luocha saying during his Ultimate "The dead RETURNS!" is not lore accurate for that to happen at all. Which is ironic, as he's Star Rail's version of Otto Apocalypse, who Otto in HI3rd eventually learned trying to revive the dead is impossible, so he settled with the next best thing: Create an AU where Kallen was not killed at that very moment he blames himself for.
@@zigazav1 Ruan Mei brought her parents back to life, and a member of the genuis society, tingyuan posts literally says, "the foxian who has experienced life and death and has been given a new life" but sure whatever you say, but I think I'll trust what the game says more, unless they lying
Also to note, the false Tingyun had one tail, but the real Tingyun's drip marketing art, shows her with multiple tails. In old Asian beliefs, if I recall correctly, the more tails a kitsune has, the older and more powerful they are. At the maximum of nine tails. But, I've barely looked into this myth, and mainly are getting info from games, both video and tabletop games, that reference this myth. So, I could be misremembering the tales of such. If I do remember it correctly though, I'm expecting some powerful magical or sacred abilities this Tingyun has. MiHoYo has deep lore for their Honkai series games, that sometimes are references. I wouldn't be surprised if Hoyoverse took this myth and ran with it beyond merely Fugue Tingyun having multiple tails
You aren't putting any tails on feixiao, enigmata said its a break nihility support. Maybe you can decorate feixiaos butt with some feathers from the charmony dove though 💀
Phantylia probably saw her hurt, and decided to impersonate her while she was away. We know Heliobi can impersonate the forms of other beings, due to how a Heliobi turned into Bailu during the ghost hunting event
I doubt she did anything really. Hard to believe that ting Yun would still be alive if phantilia had done anything. My guess is phantilia just saw or knew about what happened, assumed she was dead, and took advantage of the situation.
Here's a fun fact about Tingyun: *The playable 4-star Tingyun is the REAL Tingyun before the memory loss, not Phantylia!* This is proven by the fact that Luocha, who arrived at Luofu to bring the Stellaron, knows "Tingyun", as he mentions in his lines: *About Tingyun* _"It's hard to forget anything Tingyun says. The foxians' talent with words should be utilized to its maximum potential, no?"_ However, Tingyun has never heard of Luocha: *About Luocha* _"A businessman from beyond the sky? And he's not on the Whistling Flames' records... Weird, why can't I remember him?"_ This makes it clear that the Tingyun Luocha met was Phantylia, who was already in Tingyun's place when the Ambrosian Arbor was resurrected. There's no reason for Tingyun not to remember even meeting Luocha if he remembers her perfectly.
This version will give off a very Ship of Theseus vibe. On the one hand, we have the fake Tingyun, who looks, talks and acts exactly like the real Tingyun would (given the fact that NOBODY suspected her until she revealed herself), but she was never THE Tingyun, but in practice is a perfect copy. On the other side, there's the original Tingyun, but she doesn't remember who she is, she's practically someone else with almost no connection to her old self and she's even had her appearance modified by Ruan Mei (six[?] tails is not natural for a Foxian). Can you still say that one of these two Tingyuns is "the real Tingyun"? If so, which one? Tingyun Fugue only has the merit of being the original individual, but in practice she is no longer the same person. Phantylia in disguise is someone much closer to who Tingyun was than who Fugue is today.
I always thought idea of Tingyun dying was stupid cause she was a playable character. although i was right......after Penacony quest I dont think my hypostasis holds up 😭😭
You have no idea. This is a Honkai series game, death of even playable characters is possible in that game series. Especially if that sadistic liar Shaoji is the story writer, which he is for Star Rail.
Nah, Penacony had 3 fake deaths (Firefly, Robin and Sunday) and the two real "deaths" we had don't even count since Misha was just a bubble of memories and Gallaher was a creation of Enigmata. And now with Tingyun officially being alive it's guaranteed that they won't kill any playable characters and even if they do they'll bring them back later.
@@Truck-kun11 Yeah but my point was even if the charactes werent physically real, they still in a sense existed and interacted with the world(dream) and i guess for the sake of the game we could've let that bit slip through of them being playable...however now that both ceased to exist and are still playable and unlockable kinda breaks the theory of playable-characters-cant-die-to-make-sense
With the Tingyun we've met so far being fake, Fugue will most likely not remember anything about us when she returns and anything else so I'm also quite curious about how Hoyo will design the story missions in v2.7
Yeah, Fugue Tingyun likely won't remember us. You can't remember a memory that never existed afterall. She wasn't there to create that memory, I doubt that she'd remember something she never knew in the first place
It would be wild if ruanmei "ressurection" have side effect to tingyun Just as we can see with propagation emanator (forgot the name lol), it d*es shortly after roughly 1 minutes, what if tingyun just as same as that? Will be she dy*ng for the second time? Or maybe her side effect from ruanmei ressurection are the more she live the more her memories are loss or smth like that, so she had to start a new life with a new memories instead, just like march 7th That can explain her "type" as nihility i think (?)
Here's the thing. The real Tingyun likely was trapped in a coma, that Ruan Mei helped get her out of it. That Swarm enemy Ruan Mei "revived" was not revived truly. Ruan Mei merely replicated it, and it was a failure as it died shortly after. Otto Apocalypse in HI3rd has proven the dead cannot be truly revived in the Honkai series games. Man spent 500+ years searching of a way to bring Kallen back from the dead, and had to settle for creating an AU where she was not killed, after his several failed attempts to find a way to bring her back. He even tried to contact Honkai God once to bring her back, which they refused. If Otto Apocalypse can't truly bring back Kallen from the dead, I doubt Ruan Mei can truly revive the dead
@@zigazav1 i see, i'm not playing hi3 far enough to understand about otto thing (stopped playing after wind girl story) i think Thanks for the insight tho
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Fugue is not a name but a dissociative disorder that leads to a severe manifestation of dissociation and is part of amnesia, hence why she looked at her "old self" which means she lost her memories and feels disconnected from the world
Yea ur right with the second definition. The Chinese translation of Fugue is 忘归人 that means someone that has forgotten her past, origin and home so some level of memory loss is prob happening
Ruan Mei gave her that signiture flower drip
Basicly that Ruan mei is somehow revive her when her body is found
Stupid as it sounds it is a possibility that Ruan Mei might’ve done something to Tingyun when she first found her possibly unconscious
Looking at how past interactions with her and saw what she’s done it wouldn’t honestly surprise me that Ruan might have tampered with her somehow
That's literally the first thing I thought when I heard their conversation. DON'T TRUST RUAN MEI!!
She definetly did something to Tingyun , I mean the nine tails didn't come from nowhere!
Just like she did with the trailblazer during the herta station continuance
Fugue opens up what we thought would just happen to Astral Express members, now every 4 stars could get an alternate 5 stars depending on how their story goes.
Love how star rail handle their characters.
I don't know whether we'll get alternate Welt or Himiko, and it *sounds* like we won't get a 5* March, but instead end up with 7 4* versions of her by the end. But we're getting a 5* Herta, which will be the third 4* --> 5* upgrade, so it's safe to assume that we'll see some more of that happening.
@@joshuadunham3018 Welt and Himeko are 5 star characters, they don't count for what the OP of this comment chain is saying
@@joshuadunham3018it would be really funny if real Herta isn’t playable and all the hype gets disappointed tho
@@joshuadunham3018 I don't think there would be 7 4* versions of her. Most probably one or MAYBE two more 4*, but not any more most definitely. But there definitely would be a 5* March. Seeing how Honkai 3rd treats their characters, they have a lot of versions of the same characters, like a 4* seele(which was the earliest by the way), a 5* seele+veliona, a 5* herrscher version etc., even the veliona separately from seele is there. Same with Fu Hua and her having a lot of 4* and 5* versions, and her alter ego of HoS... I don't think HSR will have as much versions of the characters, but maybe 2-3 entirely different versions(including 4*, 5*) of the most loved characters is very possible. Imagine Emanator 5* March lol. Or have you heard Aeon Ratio theory? It is not about possible or not, it is a question about when (will the "better versions" of characters come). Most probably even 5* would get a second 5* version(s?) at some point in time by the way. Although it will be much more rare than in Hi3rd (considering how we go to different worlds a lot, always introducing new characters, instead of continuing meeting the same). So the contestants for different versions would be the Astral Express Crew, Stellaron Hunters, the Genius Club members(Herta, Ruan Mei), or other recurring characters regardless of nation (Ratio? Black Swan?).
Most likely to get upgraded is March, Herta (confirmed and there are leaks), and Sampo. Also Gallagher but not really (the fictionologist who created him). If a standard 5 star, I want it to be Yanqing with how relevant and cool he is in the recent Luofu Quests. Like dude carried it with Feixiao.
can't wait to cry when we meet her and:
- she doesn't recognize us, or maybe even herself
- we have to grapple with the fact that someone we mourned is "back from the dead"
- she gets angry/sad at her belongings being randomly sent away
- we find out wtf Ruan Mei did to her (girlie revived an emanator that destroyed planets, she def did something)
Tingyun never meet the astral express, how she can recognize us ?
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 that’s what I mean. We’ll feel like we know her, but she won’t know us. That’s why it’s so sad, that’s where the drama comes from
@@danha3107 I really wonder what will be March 7th's reaction to seeing Tingyun alive. Will Phantylia having impersonated Tingyun in the past cause March to have trust issues? Or will she be super happy to see Tingyun alive, while the real Tingyun not understanding since we never met the real her before this? I can see March 7th going in either direction in response to the real Tingyun
always knew my girl tingyun was gonna show back up, she didnt hear no bell am i right
Seriously, who actually thought she was dead?
Not only did she not leave a corpse, but we also had multiple characters saying that her "death" was suspicious and that she was probably still alive.
I still think it sucks that we didn't even get to meet the real Tingyun, which will make her "return" have zero emotional impact.
I mean not entirely, to us as players who had "met" her and watched her die maybe not. But when it comes to actual characters for them to watch her "die" should leave an impact on them.
This is a Hoyo game that we are talking about, they won't hold their punch to kill off the playable character if necessary.
@@DarkuleFox Yup. Especially since this is a Honkai series games. Tragedy WILL happen in a Honkai game. You won't get the always without death Genshin stays by. Honkai games, SOMEONE's going to die. And in GGZ's case, everyone died. Shaoji is writing Star Rail's story, who HI3rd Captains like myself, are very familiar he is not hesitant to give us an emotional suffering by killing off a character. The most infamous cutscene in HI3rd "Final Lesson" was his story writing. Genshin purists have no clue what's coming. Just because a character is playable in a Honkai series game, does not mean they will always avoid dying. ESPECIALLY with Shaoji writing Star Rail's story.
There was also the fact that feixiao found a merchant ship that had many dead and also implied that tingyun was supposed to be there but her body wasn't found. (most likely because ruan mei already took it as implied in the dialouge)
honestly, luofu quest kinda sucked. it wasn't like the story made you attached to tingyun before she died, she just died for shock factor. i mean i didnt even fully understand wth was happening with dhil and all the cloud quintet stuff. penacony was at least good with misha, gallagher not really (there was literally no impact too) and the fictionologist who created him is probably alive anyways. as for like the fakeouts, yeah they were kinda lame esp since theyd get ressurected anyways, especially ff's meaningless and sad bait "three deaths" idea. a lot of penacony story would still be the same if they remove some of the ideas and factions that just embellished it for no reason (e.g. three deaths, bh, argenti, annihalation gang, whatever the hell sparkle is doing there). Yes, I disliked the epilogue. It didnt resolve any of the glaring loose ends.
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My hypothesis of why Fugue is Nihility is this: In the dialogue with Ruan Mei Tingyun says she is an amicassador, we don't know what they are but the word recalls the Latin term amicus (aka friend).
Is it possible that the role of the amicassadors is to bring peace between Xianzhou and the other planets? What does it have to do with it? Well, if Tingyun's job was to bring PEACE, but by being possessed by Phantylia she allows her to wage WAR in Xianzhou, then everything Tingyun did in life was done for naught. (I know that's a lot similar to your Jiaoqiu theory but it seems credible to me)
Or maybe becs she died? Now that she is has comed back to life, she feels very nihilisti, I mean most things that she did might seems pointless to her now
We already know what Amicassadors do. They're meant to essentially be guides for outworld guests, especially high profile guests, around the Loufu. They're regarded as highly favored on the Loufu due to the knowledge Amicassadors need of different cultures as well as deep knowledge of how the Loufu works and places of interest. They're essentially well respected and highly qualified Tour Guides.
While we don't know ALL of the duties of an Amicassador, we do know that they're also responsible for things that help keep the Loufu running such as Traffic Control and keeping track of anyone that enters and exists the Loufu.
Tingyun being the Leader of the Whistling Flames Guild, which is the highest of the Amicassadors on the Loufu, meant her personally leading us around at that time meant we were very important guests.
We might get more lore about things Amicassadors do when Fugue Tingyun comes out.
@@nicolas._.2294 Wrong, you cannot truly bring back the dead in a Honkai series game. Just look at Otto Apocalypse from Honkai Impact 3rd. He tried so hard to find a way to bring his beloved Kallen back from the dead, while extending his life by 500+ years to buy time searching for an answer. He tried cloning (which is where Theresa and the other Kallen clones came from), he tried getting in contact with the Honkai God through abusing Sirin's connection with them as a Herrscher (as seen in the Second Eruption manga), nothing he found could truly bring back the dead. His last and sorta successful attempt, was to have Kiana and Durandal kill him so that he's sent closer to the Imaginary Tree to manipulate it to create an alternate "branch" of the tree, where Kallen was not killed. Sacrificing himself while dead (somehow) to achieve that outcome. If Otto could not bring back the dead, I doubt even Ruan Mei could. If anything, I feel Ruan Mei used her science know-how to break out of a coma the real Tingyun was in. And before anyone points out Ruan Mei bringing back a powerful part of the Swarm, she merely replicated it. Not truly revived it from the dead as the bug self-destructed after a short time. You can restore the body, but cannot gather the pieces of the mind to fully restore the person to life. Luocha saying during his Ultimate "The dead RETURNS!" is not lore accurate for that to happen at all. Which is ironic, as he's Star Rail's version of Otto Apocalypse, who Otto in HI3rd eventually learned trying to revive the dead is impossible, so he settled with the next best thing: Create an AU where Kallen was not killed at that very moment he blames himself for.
@@zigazav1 Ruan Mei brought her parents back to life, and a member of the genuis society, tingyuan posts literally says, "the foxian who has experienced life and death and has been given a new life" but sure whatever you say, but I think I'll trust what the game says more, unless they lying
Also to note, the false Tingyun had one tail, but the real Tingyun's drip marketing art, shows her with multiple tails. In old Asian beliefs, if I recall correctly, the more tails a kitsune has, the older and more powerful they are. At the maximum of nine tails. But, I've barely looked into this myth, and mainly are getting info from games, both video and tabletop games, that reference this myth. So, I could be misremembering the tales of such. If I do remember it correctly though, I'm expecting some powerful magical or sacred abilities this Tingyun has. MiHoYo has deep lore for their Honkai series games, that sometimes are references. I wouldn't be surprised if Hoyoverse took this myth and ran with it beyond merely Fugue Tingyun having multiple tails
Fugue could be a reference to the fact that Phantylia stole her life, rather than her forgetting about it.
You aren't putting any tails on feixiao, enigmata said its a break nihility support. Maybe you can decorate feixiaos butt with some feathers from the charmony dove though 💀
I also wanna know what phantilia did to her to take her position and how she and Ruan mei met i hope they fill in EVERY detail
Pretty sure Ruan Mei just stumbled upon Tingyun's wreck ship during one of her research trips
Phantylia probably saw her hurt, and decided to impersonate her while she was away. We know Heliobi can impersonate the forms of other beings, due to how a Heliobi turned into Bailu during the ghost hunting event
@@zigazav1 ohh thx
I doubt she did anything really. Hard to believe that ting Yun would still be alive if phantilia had done anything. My guess is phantilia just saw or knew about what happened, assumed she was dead, and took advantage of the situation.
hmm if you think about it we didn't have Tingyun's funreal but Phantylia's funreal.
Despite the fact she was not killed, merely just defeated. I hear you cannot kill a Heliobus
@@zigazav1 Was Phantylia even a Heliobus?
I just remembered. Like a month or more ago, I joked about Tingyun returning as a 5 star, with an extra fluffy tail. Welp, she’s got several now! 😱
Yays! I like how she has multiple tails. I'm expecting power from that given Asian folklore about foxes with multiple tails
Here's a fun fact about Tingyun: *The playable 4-star Tingyun is the REAL Tingyun before the memory loss, not Phantylia!*
This is proven by the fact that Luocha, who arrived at Luofu to bring the Stellaron, knows "Tingyun", as he mentions in his lines:
*About Tingyun*
_"It's hard to forget anything Tingyun says. The foxians' talent with words should be utilized to its maximum potential, no?"_
However, Tingyun has never heard of Luocha:
*About Luocha*
_"A businessman from beyond the sky? And he's not on the Whistling Flames' records... Weird, why can't I remember him?"_
This makes it clear that the Tingyun Luocha met was Phantylia, who was already in Tingyun's place when the Ambrosian Arbor was resurrected. There's no reason for Tingyun not to remember even meeting Luocha if he remembers her perfectly.
This version will give off a very Ship of Theseus vibe. On the one hand, we have the fake Tingyun, who looks, talks and acts exactly like the real Tingyun would (given the fact that NOBODY suspected her until she revealed herself), but she was never THE Tingyun, but in practice is a perfect copy. On the other side, there's the original Tingyun, but she doesn't remember who she is, she's practically someone else with almost no connection to her old self and she's even had her appearance modified by Ruan Mei (six[?] tails is not natural for a Foxian).
Can you still say that one of these two Tingyuns is "the real Tingyun"? If so, which one? Tingyun Fugue only has the merit of being the original individual, but in practice she is no longer the same person. Phantylia in disguise is someone much closer to who Tingyun was than who Fugue is today.
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Ah yes The Enigmata spreading misinformation as usual 😂
Feixiao tail agenda needs to be spread far and wide
I always thought idea of Tingyun dying was stupid cause she was a playable character. although i was right......after Penacony quest I dont think my hypostasis holds up 😭😭
You have no idea. This is a Honkai series game, death of even playable characters is possible in that game series. Especially if that sadistic liar Shaoji is the story writer, which he is for Star Rail.
Nah, Penacony had 3 fake deaths (Firefly, Robin and Sunday) and the two real "deaths" we had don't even count since Misha was just a bubble of memories and Gallaher was a creation of Enigmata.
And now with Tingyun officially being alive it's guaranteed that they won't kill any playable characters and even if they do they'll bring them back later.
@@Truck-kun11 Yeah but my point was even if the charactes werent physically real, they still in a sense existed and interacted with the world(dream) and i guess for the sake of the game we could've let that bit slip through of them being playable...however now that both ceased to exist and are still playable and unlockable kinda breaks the theory of playable-characters-cant-die-to-make-sense
With the Tingyun we've met so far being fake, Fugue will most likely not remember anything about us when she returns and anything else so I'm also quite curious about how Hoyo will design the story missions in v2.7
Yeah, Fugue Tingyun likely won't remember us. You can't remember a memory that never existed afterall. She wasn't there to create that memory, I doubt that she'd remember something she never knew in the first place
Poor Jiaoqiu just have everything taken from him 😭just let the man be happy
My guy studying Chinese to make these videos gotta appreciate the effort. 🎉🎉
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It would be wild if ruanmei "ressurection" have side effect to tingyun
Just as we can see with propagation emanator (forgot the name lol), it d*es shortly after roughly 1 minutes, what if tingyun just as same as that? Will be she dy*ng for the second time? Or maybe her side effect from ruanmei ressurection are the more she live the more her memories are loss or smth like that, so she had to start a new life with a new memories instead, just like march 7th
That can explain her "type" as nihility i think (?)
Here's the thing. The real Tingyun likely was trapped in a coma, that Ruan Mei helped get her out of it. That Swarm enemy Ruan Mei "revived" was not revived truly. Ruan Mei merely replicated it, and it was a failure as it died shortly after. Otto Apocalypse in HI3rd has proven the dead cannot be truly revived in the Honkai series games. Man spent 500+ years searching of a way to bring Kallen back from the dead, and had to settle for creating an AU where she was not killed, after his several failed attempts to find a way to bring her back. He even tried to contact Honkai God once to bring her back, which they refused. If Otto Apocalypse can't truly bring back Kallen from the dead, I doubt Ruan Mei can truly revive the dead
@@zigazav1 i see, i'm not playing hi3 far enough to understand about otto thing (stopped playing after wind girl story) i think
Thanks for the insight tho
DON'T TRUST RUAN MEI!!
She definetly did something to Tingyun , I mean the nine tails didn't come from nowhere!
Fox fungus.
Wasn't it that Tingyuns ship was shot down by the antimatter legion? It's possible that Ruan Mei revived her with something... experimental.
BLADE RERUN 2.7
Wait when did that dialogue with Ruan Mei happen???
At the very end of the current update's main story
Yes I love this video I love when you go in depth about lore and things
"Never trust Ruan Mei."
It would be really funny if it turns out fugue is is also not the real foxgirl
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Thought it was leaks lmao it's just lore 😔
Easy skip for tingyun caelus need her ❤
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