Filming in Flight (Paragliding with a video camera)
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- Paragliding with a video camera can be challenging. How do you set it up for best results? What kind of camera should you use? What paragliding camera mount? Chase cam, 360 video or traditional GoPro helmet cam footage? We explore the options and best ways to paraglide with a video camera to get epic aerial filming and action sports video that you'll be proud to show off on RUclips.
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We couldn't expect any better than this ! Your videos are always perfectly targeted and documented... Very informative and I really appreciate the 'human being perception' you add, which is far more valuable than any figure given in a spec document or so. Keep
up the brilliant work ! Fly on !
Fantastic channel ...thanks for this and all the other Flybubble videos!
Love Flybubble videos! Keep em coming!✌️😊
Greg can you perhaps do a BEHIND THE SCENES video? Show something of the editing process. Particularly the Insta360 ONE X editing
Wow! What a great video, Greg! And such great tips. Answered about four questions I had! Thank you!
If you like the STEADXP and want to have something similar with newer GoPros you want to look into
ReelSteady. Newer GoPros have the gyro data with the footage and ReelSteady can do a more customized, higher processing power, better job at your computer to take advantage of it.
Thx for sharing, Greg. Profound and gentle. Great!!
Really great explanation of what i'm trying to perfect
thank you Greg, your movies are my go to info resource info help
Thanks Jon, a lot of my videos are quite rough and ready, I'm aware they could be much more 'cinematic quality' but they are shot while flying, they're a byproduct / capture some raw moments. Filming in flight is usually a compromise, things get broken/go flat/get knocked about ... but if you can tell your story or deliver your lesson, it's good enough!
What a bunch of great information and beautiful clips. Thanks so much!!!!!
I'm wondering who the 10 people are that DON'T like this video!?? LOL! Great video. Well done.
Great tips, thank you! I'll try some of these on my next flight...
Thanks a million for this video.
great video loved it good explanations for filming 😀great images of flying
Thankyou appriciate was absolute amazing about filming !
Very good work - congrats and thanks for all your videos and informations! Happy landing and enjoy!
Great tips! Congrats and thanks for the big contribution to free flight community! Cheers
Every day I am watching your video....#indian,kerala
I love that angle with the 360 camera! I had been wondering how you were getting that angle.
Having just recently got a hold of a GoPro, I found the video very helpful.
However, I have real concerns about the safety of a helmet mount. Thanks for pointing out the risks of getting lines caught (and this can also result in neck injuries when the wing re-inflates or you throw your reserve and the lines get caught, as well as getting the camera ripped off the helmet in less significant incidents). You also pointed out that as a good pilot you should be looking around all the time, making for a very difficult video to watch. But another hazard you didn't point out (and a lot of people are unaware of this) is that in a crash, the camera mount can be punched right through your helmet causing very serious injuries.
For these reasons, I think we should all be actively discouraging the use of helmet mounts.
I hear you Roy, that's why in the expanded article I mention the risk of a cranial implant ;-) Unfortunately, I don't think there is any camera mount you can use which doesn't introduce some added risk of some kind to your flying.
Cool stuff love it.
as always , perfect ;)
Well not perfect yet but always trying. Some hairy bits left in there but some are deliberate setups for later in the series, to make you think about film making. Glad you enjoyed it Frederic
Until your explanation I thought you had to remove the pole when editing. Love the take off at 17:35 pole shadow but no pole. Many thanks 😃
haha! David I've got better things to do with my time than remove a pole, frame by frame - it just did it automatically in the insta360 software, and I was like, wow, thank you very much!
Man the jokes just write themselves here. "Imagine your neck in a brace..." On a paragliding video?!!! "This isn't my favorite position"? "You can stick it in any direction you want to"? "...and you can slide the pole in..."? I learned a lot...
Outstanding video !!! Bravo!!!!!
22:00
Wow "SteadXp" is a greate and a budget Tipp thanks man, that is greate!
You never talked about settings but I found it within the comments. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Another nice one Fly!
Very usefull info. Thanks a lot!
Just found this video, it is an excellent tutorial! Now my son itches to have a chance to try these tips.
(I must also say that it takes really much courage and self confidence to casually move around so close some barbed wires. I'd never dare to do that :)
Love all your videos, many thanks. This was very helpful when it came to thinking about filming my flights. I was anxious about using a helmet mounted gopro as I was worried about lines getting caught up. Do you advise against it? Also, what about a chest mounted gopro?
Amazingly informative, I thought it was a 2 min video. So was surprised.
Was wondering how where those shots made. Thank You for the info!
Very nice Gregg. Thank you for sharing Regards Rob
I was just asking these questions the other day too!
Class
Awesome talk
That was informative thanks! What about shoe cam though? I don't use it because it's not a very becoming angle (dog's eye view ar ar) but some people use it. Also a wing cam (taping a phone onto wing) for a direct view down is great for that "other angle".
I have found that taping it on mid-chord between b's & c's or it makes things wonky at the back
Nice broooo
Excellent as always. Can you provide more information or a link on where to get that mini chase cam adapter you used with your insta 360 One camera? I have that camera and thought about attaching it to my existing Skybean chase cam rig but what you have there is smaller and cleaner! Thanks in advance!
There must be some way to tether the in-flight 360 camera. As a relatively new pilot, it scares to the crap out of me to have £500 of gear loose like that while actively flying.
Thank you very much for this video brother bird!
I am really going to try that 360 camera, very interesting footage you had there.
I now also use the "Mavic Air Drone" for my films, it will need some practice but it is so worth it.
see you soon in the sky my Butterflies!
Robin from "The Butterfly Tribe"
cool, take care with the drone, they do have random mechanical failures, and if it goes through your lines it would be a worry, that's why I prefer a 360 cam fixed on a pole. Great for distance shots of the whole vista where you are flying, walking up along the crest line.
@@greghamerton4422 You are right my friend, that is why I'm not taking any risks when flying my drone I stay with my feet on the ground :)
there is always another pilot in the air to film with the amazing landscape.
hope to meet you in the sky one day brother bird!
Kind regards Robin from the south of France
awesome teaching
Great video Greg, nice to see my nagging you for this video has finally come to fruition ! :)
Fascinating to learn about the 360 camera, surprised to learn it only has 2 cameras !!
This is series worth continuing with !! :D
.... Q .... Do you have special microphones for reducing wind noise in flight ?
thanks Freezatron! I plan to do an audio episode. See the latest video on site analysis, this has good audio, so it is possible to do, but its complicated to get it right when changing camera setups or in flight. The 'chest hair' mic from this episode is a saramonic mic (only active in the bits where I'm sitting in the grass), that's my usual setup for in the air, running to my phone (covered with a flight jacket, so gets a bit muffled but is well shielded from wind).
Watched it already and i look forward to the next installment on video stuff :)
an episode on the editing software, particularly on the 360 camera would be of great interest too ;)
@@greghamerton4422 Is this a wireless mic recording separate sound to your phone and synching in post ? Or is it a Lav mic wired into a sound recorder? Either way I presume your synching sound in post correct?
@@jonnash70 The joke is on me, in the beginning of this video with the hairy chest mic, it's plugged in wrong so isn't even recording, so I'm using gopro audio there from inside the waterproof casing :-) audio is always challenging. Sometimes I have the right setup for what I end up filming, but not always. Yes the later part is a 'lav' mic (although here I'm using a Saramonic min-shotgun mic) placed near my neck, wired directly to my phone (which I always have on me, so its the best sound recorder). Any voice recorder app will do the job. This is synced up in editing. I've tried various solutions to get the sound into the camera but they are unreliable, drain power, and create cable mess. The problem is I need my camera untethered for multiple setups during a flight/on the ground. The simplest is to cover the gopro in foam 'windslayer' and use a purplepanda lav mic kit to record backup/alternative sound.
@@greghamerton4422 Thaks for getting back Greg. If you fancy having some B roll footage shot with my RED Helium 8k cam I'm local to you and I would be keen to play around testing some with Paragliding shots.
Hi guys ! Great advice, thanks. Do you try to hang the camera on a carabiner with or without gimble? The wing then participates in the stabilization of the video and you have your 2 hands free to pilot or control the camera.
Love this kind of video I'm a novice so I will stick to helmet cam 🖒
Really cool video! What's your solution for audio narration?
Great video, thank you a lot for sharing your experiences and advices about the subject.
Have you already tried to use a magnet mount to fix the camera inside the wing ? A built-in solution or something custom ? With or without gimbal ?
yes I've got a magnetic mount, but the shot is very boring. Either you look down at the pilot far below. Or you have a shot from inside the wing, which is static. There are many camera positions possible, but only a few you can use to tell a story while you're having a good flight.
Hi, great info. Any thoughts on the insta360 go 2?
Very nice video, as usual from Greg. I've checked the image on a large screen, and the GoPro 4 with SteadXP is less crispy than the GoPro 7. The grass, in GoPro 4's filming, was blurry, as were the buildings (wall edges and windows). I'm not sure but I think it's the GoPro, not the SteadXP, that is responsible. GoPro 7's image was sharp and clear on both checks (to the point I suspected a small amount of in-camera sharpening), but it could also mean that the GoPro 7 simply has better lenses, better sensor and updated processing software. GoPro 4's image is warmer (stronger orange hue), GoPro 7 is a tad colder (towards blue). Overall, a very nice video, as I'd come to expect from you.
yes my impression too on the grass shots, but later comparing 4K in the air, the difference was minimal. It is the Hero 4, steadxp preserves the original image incredibly well during stabilization. Much much better than premiere pro. I colour corrected the Hero 4 stuff Serban, so don't compare, it's not raw, I was trying to show that with colour correction/post processing the image is very close. Out of the camera the Hero 4 has a yellowish tint which I tried to remove by getting it closer to the 7. It's the stabilization of the Hero4+steadyXP that blows the 7 away, especially when running. I tried to get Hero 7 close to steadxp footage using Warp Stabilizer (in a separate video, not shown in this one) but there was just too much warp, so what you're seeing is straight out of the hero7. I think stable image is more important than pixel sharpness in the grass - it is action filming after all, and if viewers are looking at the grass then I'm doing something wrong with framing the action!
@@greghamerton4422 It is true, experts say, that there's precious little grass in the sky! And the paraglider image has not much small details, while its movement is the prime concern. I think, though, that on more... terrestrial filming the GoPro 7 might take the edge. I personally enjoyed your videos so far, Greg (story, narration, music, image - what you framed in the shots - and video quality), so you must have done something right! The sound is the only one still recovering from coughing... :) Still, the 7 appeared to me as slightly superior. It depends on the use, in the end, and perhaps also on the user. :)
PS - Can't you devise a fixture, so to use the GoPro 7 with the SteadXP?
Nice Glasses, Greg!
in South Africa we call them check-me-check-you-backs ;-) or maybe that was just in my little subculture.
How do you secure the camera in the event you lose your grip on it? Especially for handhelds I've been confused at how to secure them.
yes that would interest me also!
Hey Dude very helpfull video many thanks for that ! would you make one about inflight sound picking ?
sorry what's that? I can't hear you. [wwind noissssee] That is planned next in the series! simplest: buy a camera that has a direct 3.5mm audio jack (not a gopro, try sony x3000) and use a cheap lav mic with fluff. Alternative (what I do) record a soundtrack from lav mic that goes to my phone, and sync it up in the edit program (it's a hassle, but this means the camera is completely free to move - pole - chase - 360 - tripod). stay tuned!
Hi Greg,
Thanks a lot like always very helpful 🙏👍👌
After you opinion on a followcam system i think I’ll stick to helmet and/or stick cams.
Very nice video~!!!
Very nice video Greg, thank you! I rewatched it after testing some stuff - now i want to get more filming and better results.
I think in one shot i can see you having the camera fixed to your carabiner with some right angle holding system - how is that done?
@@flybubbleparagliding thanks!
Greg is a great recommendation, thanks. The question is, I also use the camera 360 Tell me what application do you glue the frames together?
insta360 studio (free). This produces first a stabilized full video, then you put it back into insta360studio and crop out the frame you want. This final clip then goes into adobe premiere pro (edit program) or you could use adobe premiere elements, or a free edit program to add music, voice, or clips from other cameras.
@@greghamerton4422 snks
This seems to be a popular song lately. This is the 3rd video I've heard using it. Great video though, Thanks!
yeah my mistake, picked it up off the 'trending' page on epidemicsound, which is a popular sound library for youtubers. But sometimes a song just fits nicely...
Don't feel bad I did the same thing! Its a cool song.
ruclips.net/video/LWarDpwwxT0/видео.html
Hi, Greg! What would be your mount setup to film yourself from bottom top during an SIV class. Thanks in advance! Cheers!
good~
Hey Greg, what kind of pole is that? I didn't find it in the equipment list.
Hi, How do you hold your insta360 on the pole during takeoff and landing? I managed to snap my tripod connection straight off because the pole hit the ground when I touched down. Thanks!
As always, a pleasure to watch your videos.
Keep up the good work Greg! 👍
#FlybubbleParagliding
Hey guys a word of caution on the insta360. I just got one, and my third time launching with it, it broke. The 1/4" attachment on the bottom is weak, the internal frame is very thin there and if it breaks the camera dies because the SD card electronics get compromised. Insta360 doesn't cover this type of repair at all. Mine lasted 3 weeks, now I'm out 500$
that the one X or the one? Thanks for the heads up though, I'll be extra careful with it. I find with a freehand selfie stick I can usually keep it out of trouble. It's when you try to attach the camera to a fixed pole that things get snapped.
@@greghamerton4422 I had the insta360 one x. As of an hour ago, they are switching and looking like they might replace it after I talked to marketing team instead of sales. Looks like their support is ok if you talk to the right people. We'll see. I have photo of how thin the interior frame is inside, but can't post on comments. Just treat it like a raw egg! GoPro wins in the robustness arena, but I do like this camera better for video.
Hi great video, just purchased a Samsung 360. But can’t see an option in the editing to use it like you say. Ie point the video in the area you want your viewers to see. Guess you’re your using premier pro where you get great control in editing.
I think you might be able to use the insta360.com ONE Studio (or maybe even ONE X Studio Beta) software to work on your footage - try it, it's a free download.
Have you already tried the real steady software with the Gopro7?
Die you try the new Osmo Action? Guess the FOV ist too narrow for flying. What do you think?
Question: What about camera’s that are attached to the underside of the wing, directly above the pilot?
I have the GoPro 360 degree cam. Have you tried it. Angles etc are similar to the 360 you’re using there
GREAT stuff, Thanks so much.
Also...are you shooting LINEAR mostly? and 1080 ? Not 2.7 or 4k correct ?
mostly 2.7k wide cropped to 1080p (allows reframing and rotation to improve the shot). 50fps if I think there's good potential for slomo in the action. 4K is just too much to work with. If it's just a helmet cam (there's no subject apart from the view) I'll run it on 1080p to increase battery and card life.
@@greghamerton4422 Ok that's helpful and yes agreed on the massive 4k etc. Super helpful and were using your info and advice etc for our Angel Wings stuff! www.AngelWingsCharity.org Really appreciate you!
can I ask what are the Sunglasses you use in this clip
gopro footage is so much better that the main camera you used in this video :)))))))))
Greg what software do you use to edit the 360 footage? I was fortunate enough to receive an insta 360 X for Christmas, but still trying to find the right editing software to use. The app for the iphone works okey, but when exporting the vid you get a logo on the bottom of the screen. I can't really justify buying Premier Pro to myself, just because I don't do that much editing. I have a paraglide tour in Colombia coming up mid Jan and want to be able to use the camera and the software before then. Any advice will be much appreciated. Love your videos, keep up the good work!
insta sadly overpromised and underdelivered with the one X - the software for editing is not functional. iphone your best option at the moment, I'm sure there is a tick box somewhere you can remove the logo. Premiere Pro plugin not functional, not in the way you expect it to be. You'll need an expensive very fast PC setup to edit 5.7k footage, the insta PC software is not well designed, and Premiere will just freeze. You can export insta oneX footage in 4k from the insta one X studio software (so you might as well only record in 4K), then open that file in insta studio (the original software for the one, not the X) and reframe it in there. Then throw that footage into iMovie to add your music and other clips etc. To be honest, I've lost patience with all this faff.
Thanks Greg, I found the button for the watermark. I don't understand why insta don't have editing software for mac, even something like the mobile app on the pc would be better than editing on a tiny phone screen. Anyways, thanks for the reply. Have a lekker day
You are right about the gimbal. I also tried a few models including the FeiyuTech you showed, they are all hard to control in the air. One piece info I didn’t find in the video was to attach the GoPro to the carabiner with a long gooseneck, that frees up your hands and also gives you some kind of “gimbal” effect. Can point to front or back, up and down all directions. See sample here: www.skypixel.com/videos/sand-city-20180428-by-gopro-6?PCWeb&sp=0
Which Insta One X selfie stick do you use, the normal 120cm one, or the long 300cm one?
120cm. I'm experimenting with a long one next, but you want to keep the pilot reasonably close to get good clarity on the subject. give the viewers something large to focus on or they start drifting off to the low resolution horizon...
Very useful, thank you! Now to invent a paramotor that doesn't vibrate...
steadXP will get rid of the virbations (with Hero4), or try the Hero7 - Tucker Gott seems to do alright with his new 7
I have a Hero 4, so the SteadXP is an option. Ideally I'd have the 4 on my chasecam and the 7 on my helmet. Budget means this has to wait. :D
You could experiment with mounting to the carabiners, that seems a fairly robust method of damping out a lot of vibration. Failing that, get creative with elastomers to come up with an anti-vibration mount yourself...
How do you do audio?
hi greg frosty hear i got the sony FDR 3000R you welcome to do some filming with it and with your filming i will see the real results
thanks Frosty, sure I'd love to do a side by side air-to-air comparison, I'm guessing it's very close
@@greghamerton4422 morning Greg it be good to see the results as the lens on the Sony moves to keep picture smooth go pro is done electronically.the Sony is pin sharp and vivid just let me know when you want to us it and I drop it off to you I'm in Worthing so not a problom. O7752132944
@@frosty2331 thanks mate, will do.
12:33 what is that song?
Hi Greg,
thanks for nice video. Just for info, you don't need 360 camera for chasecam. Standard Gopro fits here:
ruclips.net/video/0ViF6A-eXWI/видео.html
About safety - I fly with this chasecam for 3 years, it tangled only once during huge asymmetric collapse. After this I flew another 70km, with tangled chasecam without any geometry deformation, because main line is flexible. I know SkyBean is not your favorite brand, but this should be mentioned here, just because no another brand is producing this type of chasecam.
Hi Martin, a 360 cam is better as a chasecam than a gopro on a skybean because it provides much better stabilization (your link has tilting horizon and weird jerking follow movements caused by hero 7). A better solution would be steadyXP. I do mention the Skybean in the linked article.
Hey Greg! Nice comparison between all different camera gear you are using. SteadXP is the winner for me, once you figured out how the software works and how to get the best stabilised result ;-)
But I might buy a Hero 7 as well ... just because I am a gear junkie ;-)
I also have a interesting comparison video from a chase cam raw footage and steadxp
ruclips.net/video/C_k921etiqQ/видео.html
Hi Greg! André Badarra got some nice takes by controlling the gimbal head remotely with the use of a cable extension for the DJI Osmo, is interesting. ruclips.net/video/hrbUcdgZJtA/видео.html As usual, many thanks for sharing the alternatives you've found for video recording while on a flight!
Thank you for all the helpful information - the SteadyXP was new to me. I used a following cam and installed a hand held gimbal onto it - it is kind of scary during the flight as you explained in your video and I would use it only in stable conditions. But the results is quite nice. Here is a link to a video shot with the following cam / gimbal installed on it: ruclips.net/video/-vem6x7j-EI/видео.html
why not use a cheaper action-cam and get yourself a cool 3axis gimbal??? Safe a lot of money and does even better than the inbuilt stabi you have on that GP7????
GP7 is better for IQ, IS and easier overall by far.
Haha, his mic's windprotector makes it look like hes got an insanely hairy chest
I couldn't show my real chest hair due to RUclips community guidelines ;-)
clean your lens