TRAPPED in a BUG infested Cave │ The Nam Talu Cave HORROR
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In 2007, a group of tourists entered the Nam Talu Cave in Thailand, when a flash storm caused it to flood. It's safe to say It did not go well!
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I was like, "didn't I already hear this story?"
@@justtime6736 haha sorry to disappoint! stay tuned for more caving horror this week. Got some interesting stories to tell!
The sun was booming 😧
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who the hell takes a 10 year old into a forbidden flooded cave?!
🤷♂️🤷♂️
Or spends an entire inheritance on a long holiday to phuket?
A TERRIBLE parent
No one apparently, he was unaccompanied by a parent!!
@PeRFeCT IMPeRFeCTiON I wasn't sure actually so I just went looking, the only detailed article I could find was from The Guardian and it says:
"Police identified the foreign victims as a Swiss family, Benno Fisher, 49, Stalder Fisher, 48, Ambarea Fisher, 17, and Sarah Fisher, 15, and Eddie Gaempe, 10, of Germany. The boy's mother did not go on the trip as she was ill, but believed it would be safe as he was in the company of other adults."
Let's go to a cobra and spider-infested cave during monsoon season and ignore all warnings. What could possibly go wrong?
"Now don't go in those caves during flooding season!"
Proceeds to go into the cave and it floods.
So true .sometimes you have to.heed warnings and have some common sense
@@monkaWGigawell it happened so suddenly. you cant blame them for the totally unpredictable rain 😇 🙏
Exactly. Their own stupidity and decisions cost them their lives.
Why the hell did John jump off the ledge after just a short amount of time and leave his girlfriend all alone! You would have to be super human to swim through that current. Unbelievable.
We're american, nothing can hurt us
Imagine telling the family members "sorry your children are dead, they thought the venomous death cave was safe".
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
😅😂😂😂
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) -------------------------------
@@islamisthetruewaytogod6812thanks. Bro. Salam
It's good to know my finely honed fear of insects, spiders, snakes, the dark and confined spaces didn't evolve over millions of years for nothing.
Same. I would never ever EVER go into a cave infested with creepy crawlies. That sounds like my worst nightmare. I see any bug or spider and I freak the fuck out. Too many stupid decisions made by these people.
Bro scared of everything 💀
Don’t forget drowning and hypothermia
@helmie4118 its natural lol
@@helmie4118humans evolved these fears because theyve helped us survive
The thing that always gets me is that there's nothing in these caves worth risking your life over 🤔
zero, zilch, nada but let's go especially after that local said don't.🤦♂ he don't know nuffin'😐just wow😳🙄🙋♂😁✌😎
Except bugs
Cave exploration just seems stupid to me, it's a bunch of monochrome rocks. This one is special in that it has lots of life but apparently they hate creepy crawlies so there's no logic in doing what they did. It's more or less the same thing with climbing tall mountains. I could understand someone who especially likes rare ecosystems or geology but they didn't.
Sometimes you just have to say Phuket.
Hee hee
With all due respect for the dead.
If an official tour guide tells you not to do it because the cave is dangerous and its monsoon time, how can you as a non-local and with zero experience just overgo this advice and find someone with also zero experience and pay him to go with you?
And if you do so, sad enough. But for god's sake why do you get you 10 yo boy on such a trip? Did she thought it was an offical tour guide or what?
...
These kind of stories always tore me apart between anger and just poor sadness for everyone involved. ;(
Nah screw em
I have a 14yo niece I raised like a daughter. I can't imagine putting her through this at the age of 8 [or ever]. I was always super protective of her being hurt
what i find more infuriating is that he didnt wait 24hrs to be rescued and instead thought it was somehow a smart idea for him to jump into raging water??? like if his plan would really have worked that means that the rest of the group would be alive and on the other side of the cave and they could get help thus no need for him to jump in and risk it.
id say he won his darwin award but he already had children...
Because they’re British
No respect is needed for idiots that died in such ways. Just NPCs fading away.
If she's that terrified of bugs why would she even want to continue in the cave? Strange choices all around.
Both of them were really stupid, like mentally challenged tier
White people tings
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) -------------------------------
@@islamisthetruewaytogod6812isnt Hinduism older than Islam and Christianity? How can Islam be the first when Christianity comes before Islam, let alone Hinduism which is way older than both?
@@mattkirk1649sadly it is real, this whole story is just natural selection in action
I cannot believe the bravery and determination of the locals for literally 0 reward to save this woman
Seriously. Then when she finds out her partner died she goes crazy and lashes out at the rescuers. I would have just been like “you know, you didn’t need to go into the cave and neither did we. So maybe be fucking nice to us, maybe pay us cause we did it for free.”
@@KenobiStark1truly good people never think that way.
The feeling you can get from saving a life IS the reward.
@@KenobiStark1Stupid decision or not, she had just realized that she was the sole survivor and learning of the death of her partner. Stupid, but completely understandable. Her reaction to her boyfriends death can't be all you got out of this
@@dxcSOULI don’t agree with that statement. But agree to disagree I guess. I think you might think something like that but you would choose not to act on it or say it.
If you’ve spent even 1 day in Thailand during monsoon season, how on earth would you make the decision to go into this cave? It rains violently everyday during monsoon season, and it’s usually a flash flood type situation that’s over in 15 minutes. Just mind boggling to make such a bad decision and to not listen to the locals and the signs.
Even for the locals who took them there, you’d assume it would be common sense if you live near caves.
As an American that's never been to Thailand or been caving: even I know it's a bad idea to go underground anywhere during the rainy season.
Imagine you the perfect , never made bad decisions. Commenting here about people’s choices
@@pepperkilldevelopment9069 I know right? Imagine criticizing people for making stupid decisions that result in someone's death. Crazy, huh?
I live in Thailand and it's the monsoon season right now. I would not go in any cave now for sure!
I'm actually most baffled that the man jumped into the water after they watched everyone get swept away.
fr
He thought the current had died down?
he thought he was aquaman lmao
@silverfoxeater and got phuked 😬😥🙏🙋♂😁✌😎
Yeah, this man wasn’t very smart. If it weren’t this, it was BOUND to be something else with his stupidity that would have killed him.
Anyone who gets around water knows that there is always that one guy with a boat who will do whatever you pay him to do, no matter if he knows how or not…….
This is 100% true
I thought that was only in movies
It’s just impossible for me to feel bad for them. It’s like they went out of their way to put themselves in the worst situation ever.
only person i feel bad for is the 10 yr old kid
@@Pizza-Steve and the teens
You can still feel bad for them even though they made a poor choice. Its not like they deserved death.
@@Tealeafs1 No one deserves anything, things just happen, but they made the probablities of something happening work against them
@@Tealeafs1Putting children in such a risk just because you wanna be adventerous and appear like you have a fucking life, they deserved it and more, the children didn't.
The weirdest part of the story is that her boyfriend was in a safe spot, he made it out of the water. When he said ‘if we stay here we are going to die’ I assumed they had prob been on that ledge for days and we about to die of dehydration or something, but this guy was prob on that ledge for 10hrs and then just jumps into the raging water smh
He made 2 stupid decisions back to back, going into the cave and jumping into the water so early
It sounds like he was a little too self assured, I have NO doubt he was the reason they were there in the first place despite everyone telling them no, and then he decided he could swim against a flood? That's a deadly pattern of behavior. The manly urge to get yourself killed so you can get your way, I guess
That's what seeing too many action films does to your brain, I guess.
Darwin award
He probably thought that no one would be coming for them, so he had to get out to send someone in to rescue her. That's what I would assume his thinking was. He took a risk and it didn't pay off.
Not everyone is good in a crisis plus when it's pitch dark and you just had a traumatizing experience, I bet your perception of time is way off. She said she felt like she was there for days
Even the guide, who wants to make money, told them not to go there under any circumstances. Dad's hard-earned money was just burning a hole in Jon's pocket and what better way to spend some of it than enter an extremely dangerous cave in monsoon season? The spiders alone would have kept me out. I hope Helena rewarded the Thai who was responsible for saving her life.
She didn't. She was too busy hooking up with a new guy.
@@_BiologyMatters_really ?
I really doubt she did. She was dumb enough to go through all this. Without any brain on her, Why would she have a heart
The fact she wasn't bitten by a lethal snake or other thing is nothing short of a miracle.
As sad as this is.
They all need to be given the Darwin Award.
- Ignored Guide
- Found inexperienced people
- Boyfriend Jumped into raging waters that likely just murdered the whole group.
I'd say a very good chance to win the Darwins Award here.
sad to say but you are totally right
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) -------------------------------
bro was blessed to be in a relatively safe place given the circumstances but thought he could be a hero or something 💀
@@cordrust😮 So vile ! Have some sympathy 😞 that man was brave 😔
the kids don't deserve that asshole
Who in their right mind would jump into the water thinking you'd get washed out the other side??? I can't imagine what it'd be like in that situation, but I know I'd never do that.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They're from the u.k....they haven't been in their right mind since birth
Im guessing that he was just supremely ignorant. He probably thought caves were like man made tunnels or something.
Same energy as " if your homeless just buy a house"
i mean tbh most of us wouldn't be in this situation to begin with. but i know what you mean. he made two stupid decisions back to back.
As someone from a tourist destination where tourists die every year due to ignoring MANY posted signs and warnings from locals... Please, tourists, PLEASE!! LISTEN. TO THE. LOCALS. We don't warn you for fun, it's because we know it is even dangerous for US, people used to the conditions... It is deadly for those who aren't.
When I'm the tourist, I always pay attention to locals... This is their home, they know it better than me.
Same in Hawaii, so many tourists go close to the spray holes and don't understand how dangerous that is. Nature is no joke
So many tourists look down on locals and have this holier than thou attitude. Pretty much believe they're the protagonist and nothing bad will happen cuz "it always happens to others"
@@catscanhavelittleasalami Compounded by "I paid X amount to get this far and I'm getting what I want" or "I know what I'm worth".
What dumb tourist see when they see those signs:
The sign :DANGER, YOU WILL DIE!
The tourist: Ooh spooky, I better try that you out you can't scare me! 🤪
White tourists look down on locals in Asian countries and think they are better, treating the country as their playground.
The amount of death they caused just to see a cave she barely wanted to go to. Heartbreaking
I knew she likely survived because the details of the story were so specific, it had to have came from a survivor.
It's great she didn't listen to John and jump in. He just seems like he comes up with bad ideas and I'm betting it was his idea to ignore warnings and do this. They even said she isn't used to that kind of thing so he must have lead this tragedy.
I feel so bad for that 10yo boy, and helped. Who rides a boat 2 hours then hikes 2 hours to go into THAT. Even if they'd made it out, it'd be dark almost, then 4 hours back. Poor kid must have been tired and terrified before they even got in the cave.
That irked me as well! I looked at news articles yo confirm that yes, the boy went without his mom. The mom was sick and stayed behind. The kid went with total strangers!
It's just insane that the adults took him and risked those poor teenage girls too. I've done loads of risky things by myself or with a friend but not drag kids into it. The trouble they went to too! Like wasn't there other things to do less dangerous?
@@dianebrooks1859 Why was this even allowed?? No kid should go unaccompanied on such an "adventure"
This John guy seems like a real fool. First, he refuses to stay out of the cave during the Raining Season. And then, for no logical reason, he jumps into the raging torrent screaming I LOVE YOU. Maybe John is just a fool for love. People like John don't live to a ripe old age.
I actually laughed out loud when he came up with his idiotic plan of jumping into certain death. This guy was a 5-star moron.
she probably pushed his stupid ass to get the $$
Goddamn...
not to mention he blew his entire inheritance on this trip instead of getting a house...very short sighted and impulsive.
Your mom would probably do the same.
You don't have to be deathly afraid of "creepy crawlies" to be freaked out when surrounded by a million of them. Ugh! It's a nightmare.
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) -------------------------------
@@islamisthetruewaytogod6812Jai Shree Ram 🙏🏻🙏🏻 you're free to follow any religion you want but true sanatani will stay true sanatanis. Believe whatever you want.
agreed, i dont mind insects, because i know all of them in my country cant harm me apart from stinging and leaving a swollen spot on me, maybe even 10 spiders crawling on me, but hundreds of insects, maybe thousands? in a country where almost everything is dangerous due to the climate and enviroment? hell no
@@islamisthetruewaytogod6812shutup loser
1. Wanted to go caving during a monsoon.
2. Being strongly advised against it by an experienced guide that stated death as a possible outcome.
3. Husband thinking he could be swept away to safety by the strong currents like he was Indiana Jones.
These people were definitely strong candidates for the Darwin award, killed and traumatized by immense stupidity.
Kinda hard to feel bad for them, honestly.
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) -------------------------------
@@DarkBeforeSpawn I only feel bad for the kids involved
@@sy_dianne5224foreal. The adults kind of got what the deserve for their stupidity but the kids didn't know any better and were just following the leader
I still can't believe that dude thought he could just ride the current like it was a theme park ride. Take no mind of fast currents, jagged rock formations, or chambers without air pockets.
When you ignore the warnings.
You get the Darwin award.
.......posthumously only.......
@@tantelila7464 Buwahahahha
They sounded dumb when they took a vacation instead of purchasing a home.
The poor kids who died probably didn’t have much of a say in it
@@jaxsazerac4904 Or at least putting that inheritance into a high APY account.
Poor girl will never be the same, the common sense was lost when the warnings went unheeded...RIP
Entitlement at its finest... Thinking they knew better.
@@ProjectShinkai yeah they are entitled idiots
Poor girl? Lmao.
@@ClickClack_Bam Darwin winner
@@Filthy_Larry Fr i hope she enjoys her award
Seriously !!?? The guide tells you not to go and you still go ? I feel especially sorry for the minors who died. Such an avoidable tragedy.
Agree
It’s hard to feel bad for the couple, they didn’t listen when told NOT to enter the cave under any circumstances, and brought a bunch of innocent people/children and lead them to their deaths. John jumping into the water has to be the most foolish thing I’ve ever heard. Seriously, the amount of stupidity in this video astounding. I feel truly bad for the children especially, them getting caught in the water is so immensely sad. RIP
I'm not surprised they went in there, people have a tendency to do risky stuff that they have been warned against as long as they are not the only ones and tourists are especially inclined to trust the group over their individual judgment in a foreign land.
I'm not surprised either but I know personally, I'd listen to the locals and experts opinions over anything else. They live there and know the area more than you do. Their opinion is surely worth something. Especially in a land you have no idea about. If they tell you "Don't go over that way, there's a deadly tribe that attacks on sight" You don't go that way unless you're fully willing to risk your life knowing you could be killed. I'm not trying to blame the victims either, at the same time though it was extremely dangerous and reckless going in a cave in that location during monsoon season and any seasoned cavers would be well aware of that fact, so it was definitely an avoidable situation which is the saddest part about this whole thing. If they just had one experienced guy in the group, it might have went a different way.
"Cullen had lost his father 12 months earlier and was due to take over the family business. But, at just 24, he wanted to see some more of the world before he settled down."
Father is dead- now all I have to do is bust the money he was working for it for his whole life...a modern youth mind
I'm never leaving the United States of America amen.
i'm guessing these tourists are the types to think "I'll go in this very dangerous place and ignore warnings because bad things only happen to others"
@@honorladone8682I didn't think Americans thought anything but the US existed, what is this tomfoolery??
I went to Thailand and it was monsoon season, there's no way I'd deviate from what the advice was at the time. It's truly scary, I'm so sorry for what happened but this is a huge lesson. Don't ignore advice and rules when visiting foreign places. They are there for a reason.
Noneed to be sorry. They were all very stupid.
Huge lesson to who? 60 IQ people? Even if they manage to read, they wont listen. Anyone above 61 IQ doesnt need such lessons.
So first John decides to go into a cave against all official warnings, then he decides to jump into rushing water in pitch blackness after seeing everyone get swept away by it? That is just a series of _horrible_ decisions.
Yea, when this video said "against all of his instincts, he told her to sit for rescue," I was thinking thank goddness because his judgment and instincts are horrible, and ignoring his insticts saved her life.
I don't even know why john rushed things like they are safe up there, all they have to do was wait patiently if not die together at least. Why risk in that strong current when you saw how easily other got swept away?? It's true what they say, patience is virtue.
So john would still be alive if he didn't throw himself into a raging torrent... that was honestly such an incredibly foolish thing to do.
i was thinking exactly that at the start, why the hell would you jump into that, just wait it out
it seems like he was a pretty dumb fella in general. Not malicious but still stupid.
Bro thought he was the main character 💀 rip bozo
I'm almost positive the 10 yo boy did not have his mom with him in the cave..... and why in the world you'd let your 10yo go with a bunch of strangers, is so weird to me
Idk...one less mouth to feed /s
He didn't another news article said she skipped it cause she was sick...... WTH
Nope.....I am DEATHLY afraid of spiders. I wouldn't have made it. Its an irrational fear and being surrounded by them in the dark is worse than DEATH to me. RIP to the people who died and I pray the survivor can have a productive life after this nightmare. Sending strength to her💝
@@ClickClack_Bam why would they want to go in your house?
@@ClickClack_Bam You can keep them, better with you than near me
@@ClickClack_Bam Jesus you are absolutely correct. I wish I could get over the fear....Ive tried. I am sure they aren't that bad
I dont get upset over comments bc Free speech so no problem here. 🤎
@@ClickClack_Bamude I care not, mulch, zero. I live around black widows and brown recluses. It’s not an “irrational” fear on many occasions.
I kill all spiders on sight, couldn’t care less about your “save the spiders” spiel.
@@ClickClack_BamI love snakes but I don’t fuck with the unholy creations that are spiders.
John was really full of bad decisions. It is sad knowing that he literally died for nothing when he flung himself into the water.
He actually thought he would float out of the cave? Strange...
I thought this. Imagine being in a fairly safe space, and then deciding the best course of action would be to throw yourself directly into the swirling current of death below.
Its like going to venice warned not to swim in the venetian water and got brain eating amoeba then blamed the government😮.
@@lakibody what do you mean? is there a different video about that?
@@lakibodywait there is actually brain eating amoeba in venetian waters?
Cave: "It's over John! You have the high ground!"
John: "You underestimate my power!"
So many people think they are invisible. The saddest is the children who obviously were relying on adults to make decisions for them. It's a time to be over-cautious, when you have children with you. Very sorry for everyone in the cave that day.
I feel bad for that 10 years old. Probably thought he'd experience a cool adventure in a cave full of nasty critters and was never told how dangerous it actually was. Trusted the wrong adults.
*invincible
@@catscanhavelittleasalami Not even trust... parents can just force or coarse you to come with them.
I think you mean invincible lol
they should have both stayed on that ledge and just waited for the water to recede, even if it took 2 or 3 days the water would eventually recede and they could just walk or wade away.
The only people I feel bad for in this story are the children.
If youre afraid if creepy crawlies never ever go to a tropical rainforest contry🤣
This is why you listen to local tour guides
First mistake was not buying property instead of taking a long vacation/trip to somewhere.
Not everyone’s goals are yours
I love that this comment implies that $3000 and $500,000 are the same amount of money.
When I'm on my deathbed I'm definitely not going to be saying "man, I wish I had bought that so-and-so". No, I'm going to be happy that I got to see so much of this beautiful world and met amazing people.
Who’s to say they didn’t already have property since his dad passed? His dad passed, i think he wanted a new experience (travel) after a crisis rather than a property (which he would prob inherit with the business he has to run when he got back). I doubt this was his regret as he died. “I should have taken that free financial advice in a RUclips comment”
What if they already own multiple properties and is already getting passive income. How do you think they can afford this vacation?
They were told not to go in and yet they did. That’s very frustrating
That boy and those girls being there is just a tragedy. 3 young lives who had no way of knowing what they were being brought into cut short because of ignorance. RIP
My older brother has been to this national park, but he stayed out of the cave after being warned not to enter. One of the locals had even told him of a rumor that an escaped convict ran in there to hide from the authorities, back in the late ‘80s or so, and he never came back out alive.
Yeah.... Jump in the raging flood coursing deeper into the cave to get out, makes perfect sense. Some people really can't handle stress.
My aunt and uncle would go on beach vacations every year. They would take their 2 kids along with 2 my kids and another nephew. They went to Myrtle Beach, SC back in 2017 just about a week after storm season. There were warnings all over the beaches that there were strong currents making swimming hazardous. People just basically blew off those signs like they weren't too serious. My aunt & uncle made the kids stay at the shore line for their safety. There was an 11 year old local boy swimming by himself. He went out far from the shoreline, passed a sandbar and got caught in a strong current. My uncle and another tourists who was only 21 years old took off after the little boy. They made it to him & began pulling him from the current. They saved his life, but unfortunately both my uncle & the 21 year old young man were pulled under by the current just after getting the 11 year old boy to safety. They both drowned & died that day. My uncle died in front of his wife, 2 kids & 3 nephews. The 21 year old died in front of his parents & siblings. There was not one adult with the little boy. That little boy had an emotional breakdown right after he had been pulled to safety upon realizing that the 2 people who had saved him had died. My aunt said that hearing that boy breakdown made the pain much more gut wrenching bc he blamed himself. She went to him to tell him that it was not his fault. My uncle's body wasn't found until 2 days later. My aunt had no choice but to stay in SC for another 4 days & 3 nights foe his body to be found & examined by the M.E to verify his C.O.D and then make the necessary arrangements to have him transported back to Kentucky.
I’m so sorry for your loss and thank you for sharing
May they Rest in peace!!
I’m very sorry for your loss. That happens very often where the person in trouble survives and the rescuers die. I live in NJ and every summer this happens many times unfortunately.
So sad and unfortunate incident... May the both soul rest in peace
Oh my gosh, I think I was there that day. I remember seeing search helicopters for what felt like hours. I am so sorry for your loss
Part of me knows that they only got what was coming because of the ignored warnings but honestly that thought is probably what haunts Helena and makes this tragedy that much more difficult to live with. Truly unfortunate
Money typically trumps safety and sanity. Very fortunate that the local man, went in deeper in search of survivors
what a brave local guy... a real hero. risked his own life.
It's almost as if the tour guide told them this would happen
"Nam Talu" literary translated
Nam : Water
Talu : Penetrate through with great force
Whatever reasons you have. you don't want to get anywhere near cave with that kind of name in Monsoon season.
Absolutely arrogant to have disregarded the Professional Guides warnings!
Proverb
“there are none so blind as those who will not see”
in other words;
“Understanding cannot be forced on someone who chooses to be ignorant.”
"It was a cesspool of insects"
"Things were going really well"
Lol
Haha I actually had the chance to change that bit, thought i'd leave it in .
OMG those bugs must have been terrified being surrounded by stoopid humans
The tour guide: "It's monsoon season, don't go in that cave."
The couple: "Oh no! Anyway on to the cave."
Perhaps they didn’t understand how dangerous a monsoon could be - as they were from Britain, they probably thought “eh, what harm could a little downpour do?”
Perhaps..
Most people have no clue just how dangerous and deadly nature can be.
@@avae5343uk still have venomous snakes
as an english person there is absolutely no way most of us would do this 😭💀💀
But the guide did explain the dangers to them...
I feel bad saying this, but the sheer stupidity makes it hard for me to feel sorry for them. Except for the 10 year old boy. I feel terrible for that kid, where the frick were his parents?! Who lets a child into a dangerous FORBIDDEN cave?! Everyone told them not to go in! It sounds deadly even without the monsoon season! Why the heck, did that group think it was a good idea?!
I'm not surprised they went in there. I went to the Amazon as a 20 year old... and when that young you just feel like you're invincible. Also, if you aren't aware of how crazy dangerous flash floods are, it would be a complete shock to learn the viciousness of a flash flood in person, while in a cave. Plus, if a bunch of other people agree to go, you can definitely get caught up in group think; "if they think it's safe then it must be safe for me". Tough lesson to learn the hard way
It’s always good to know the place that you are traveling to. I’m from California. I ALWAYS look up the dangers of the places I travel to. RIP to all those people🙏🏾
I hope this woman isn't in a suspended state of questioning why she was the only one to survive. She's suffered enough trauma & grief. She survived alone on the ledge of despair w/all those creepy-crawlies & having only the light of a glow-worm as her gauge to the dangerously rising water-levels. Thank goodness for the rescuer. What a hero as were all the other first responders. 💓💜
What's a glow 🪱
@@somber59 what’s a Google it
She was trash enough to risk not only her life but other people's too, including a 10yo kid, despite the objectively clear and easily conceivable warnings of people and authorities. She should be in jail.
@@toxihex876She wasn't a tour guide who forced the mother & her son to go w/them or anyone else, dumb dumb!
She risked the lives of kids. She can screw off.
5:04 "when they looked up, they saw bats eyes, and drops of water fell on them" that wasn't water..........
🤢🤣
I think it's called guano. Bat poop.
The tour guide didn't even have to mention monsoon to me, just the words insects,spiders and snakes is a no go for me.
the key decision ive been getting from all these cave videos is just climb as high as u can and wait , its way greater chance of survival than everyone who decided , "if we wait we will die"
just climb
"if we wait we'll die" seems to always lead to a quick death
Why couldn’t they run back when they felt the water coming in????
What a horrible choice to have to make between splitting up and going for help or waiting together for rescue. Many stories show how people were only able to survive by someone leaving, while this one shows how waiting was the only option. So hard to tell which is the correct choice to make in a crisis.
the correct choice is to heed warning signs and not go to a cave in thailand during monsoon season! no need to ask ourselves what we would do in such situations. just don't put yourself in them.
@@skrittle555 Very true! a lot of people on vacations will prefer a local guide (because they are cheaper) rather than the guide offered by their resort/cruise ship, and because of that, a lot of safety requirements for some of these exersions are ignored.
@@brightnail1Most people would also prefer an actual guide, these fools just plucked a random face from the masses and rolled with it. Sucks that the children had no choice but to rely on the worst humanity has to offer of intelligence.
I agree, but TEN hours and he decides to jump?! I would have agreed after 72 hours, NOT 10. They got irrationally impatient. Ten hours is nothing.
Could you imagine being the friend that told them to go check out that cave?? Many prayers to all that have been affected by this tragedy 💙
Well they told them to go, not to ignore all safety warnings...it's not the friends fault here
Obviously this is an awful situation and I feel sorry for all of them. However, it's so frustrating to hear about how often they were warned; it's frustrating how PARENTS took their children into the cave, and it's frustrating how despite his girlfriend having a phobia of insects and snakes, he took her to a cave full of insects and snakes. This could've been so easily avoided
Perhaps one is not that curious enough but the spiders alone would keep me out.
Thank you for showing this again, if it helps one person stop and think before doing something that can kill them, it is worth it.
Since beginning to watch cave exploring videos I truly believe that there should be a level based certification process for caving like there is for scuba diving. Poor little Helena😞☹️
It is sad, but she's an adult and ignored the warnings. What's even more sad is the little boy and two little girls who were taken in there by adults.
agreed. but they're natural wonders. people will potter in eventually
Maybe at other places but clearly they would ignore any warnings since they were told by the tour guides to not go during Monsoon season AND ignored signage that said not to go in during the season.
@@monkaWGiga You’re right but if one was required to take a course they would at least be notified of the actual dangers that could possibly exist & the severity of making even the smallest mistake. It’s hard to ignore things when you are “required” to take a course. That in and of itself is a sign that caving is to be taken lightly.
Agree. Also, I see many seniors slip and fall on ice during winter. They should stay home, or complete a fitness test that certifies them to walk on ice. No certification, eh? Stay inside old man, I’d hate for this rifle to go off.
I believe a handful of people drown during summer. Is it possible to cordon off beaches, oceans, etc? Maybe a barb wire fence? Underwater mines? Maybe allow certifications. You wanna dip your toes? Sure, but first, go ahead and swim across the English Channel with handcuffs and lead weights around your neck. Then we’ll talk.
I don't understand spending money on a trip instead of a home.
I was about to write this.
If I were to go to an exotic country, the first thing I would think is “why don’t we go underground, the only place where things will look exactly the same no matter where on earth we are”
had a 2-month trip in Thailand to see my grandpa and grandma over there, it rains every night for hours straight, for some occasions it rains so much, my cousin's school had to close due to flooding, this was in the Sukhumvit district. I'm not a guy that likes to go caving, but i know for a fact that you can't go when it's raining hard. my grandpa passed away just 2 weeks ago as of writing this.
I'm so sorry to hear about your grandfather passing.😭
Hopefully he found peace, sorry for your loss ❤
My condolences brother. May he rest in peace.
Hope your grandpa is resting well. The story was great
Thanks to channels like this I will never go into a cave that isn’t super easy.
I didn't even need these videos. I got my first taste of claustrophobia reading The Incredible Hulk lol. It was the issue The Sandman first showed up. He dragged Bruce Banner into an underground system. As Bruce was crawling out, the cave began collapsing on him. Jeeeesus that mental imagery really fucked my 7 year old head up.
I don’t want to go at all. Literally what’s the point?
I have been watching these videos and most of these deaths have one thing in common. The victims ignore warnings. It's there for a reason.
As a person with a huge phobia of bugs (specifically spiders), I would’ve passed out the second I entered in the cave
Ummmn actuly spiders is arachnids
@@Spongebobber463 huh
You know, Virtual Reality can make cave exploring as dangerous as you want it without leaving the comforts of your living room. That’s where I do all my dangerous, bug infested explorations…..and be home in time for dinner. 😸
Wow you do need to get out more
Actually that's a good idea... What VR can I use to go cave exploring? Is there actually one? Can you recommend anything like that? I don't wanna just play games.
@@kayleighgroenendal8473 look up “Oculus Quest” headset and then get “Oculua Rift The Cave” VR bundle.
@@kayleighgroenendal8473 I think he was talking about minecraft :D
@@mathieumansire372 what's that
The fact that somebody took them to the cave and didn't care about anybody's safety and put money above lives is just so disheartening and horrible. As well as the people just disregarding what they were told she didn't have to lose her love and those other people didn't have to lose their life. Nobody is special like they're the exception to something....... it doesn't work like that. You have one life it's precious and must be treated as so.
They say ignorance is bliss
@@GuessMyName234 That's probably another way to put "Normalcy Bias". It leads people to disbelieve or minimize threat warnings. I think we've all been there to a certain extent so we can somewhat relate but 70% of people display "NB" during a disaster.
Typical of some humans. I wouldnt blame them though the locals should of known better
if you understand thailand then you understand why...
If John wasn't a gullible moron he probably would have realized these people will do anything for money. It was obvious he was stupid when he blew their house down payment on a dangerous vacation instead.
I've backpacker Thailand extensively twice and lived there for a few years. It is a wild pace to be. I feel so sorry for her.
Monsoon season is no joke in Thailand. I was river floating (literally just floating downstream in a life vest) this one year and a sudden downpour happened. The waters rushed so hard that I was going under but the vest was the only thing pulling me up, so my body was under but the vest was over the water level. In the river, a huge whirlpool almost swallowed me and my uncle, but we managed to somehow free ourselves. The river current rushed us down until we managed to get near the observation area where there were steel ladders to get out of the river from. We grabbed on for dear life and it took all our strength to not get pulled back into the river as we struggled to climb out.
If he’d just stayed on the ledge with her :((
@@margarita8442 you feel better about yourself? 🙄
@@KristenDETW dude thought he was aquaman but was actually deadman lmao
I'm glad he jumped in because keeping this idiotic and selfish couple together would have done a lot more damage over time.
@@Camcolitoimagine if they had kids
@@BlackReality87 World dodged a bullet there.
they go inside the cave and despite warning they still ignored it.
then the rescues come and she yells at them because her bf is dead....the audacity of some people
exactly after you went through a traumatic experience you dont think straight.. you can even make an assumption of this just by seeing the video. did you even pay attention?
to be fair they lied and told her he was waiting for her in an ambulance just to get her there. That's just not something you do.
The only one in this story I feel sorry for was the 10 year old who probably thought he was safe with adults who knew better. The rest of them all pretty much just voluntarily offed themselves for no reason.
“It was a complete cesspool of poisonous insects”
Next line:
“Things were going really well!😊”
It's just so sad people think "it won't happen to me" and just ignore warnings of DANGER.
Bug infested cave? Nope!!!
I don't mind bugs, but there's no way I'm going to walk into their nests.
all caves are infested with bugs! as are fields, parks, trees, gardens 😅
I knew a guy in my high school who went to Costa Rica. He was about 18 at the time, so in great physical shape. He went into the jungle with some people and a guide for a day hike. He died from heat exhaustion on the hike. There was no way to cool him down. Be super careful in unfamiliar environments in other parts of the world, you aren't adapted for it and have no knowledge. I feel pretty comfortable in the forests of British Columbia because I know what the dangers are, but in another environment I trust the experts. I went into some abandoned mines with a couple of friends when I was in my early 20's. For the most part the mine was pretty solid, but a couple of spots were more gravelly and made me more nervous. There was one spot where there was a mine shaft going up at about a 70 degree angle full of huge boulders and the only thing holding it up was two crossed old beams. We didn't go near it because one fart could bring the weight of the world down on us. No way would I do that now. Very sad story and I feel for the people who died, pretty awful way to go.
The pain I feel when I even imagine seeing my husband jump into the rushing flood waters in a cave to try and get us to safety while screaming “I LOVE YOU!”…. I can’t imagine what she must’ve been feeling in that moment I can’t begin to imagine how she must still feel today. That would absolutely destroy me down to my core if I lost my husband in such a way… or even at all honestly. But that situation would just make that loss so much more traumatic. And then to feel your hopes rise after being told that he’d survived. Only to find out that they’d lied for some reason. That poor woman. She must have some horrible PTSD. I hope she has the love and support she needs and has been able to work through and heal her heart a bit.
I probably would burst out laughing at the moron.
Their whole culture is to defy old and experienced ppl advices thinking its myths, bow after experiencing it they regret it, a responsibility they should burden. But, rest in peace...
Note to self: keep paying attention to warnings and staying away from dangerous caves, mountains etc.
I leave explorations like this to the professionals, I know nothing about caving... other than it can be extremely dangerous. I have nothing to gain from risking my life in a snake and spider pit during monsoon season. Very sad to see that some people don't just risk their own lives but their childrens' as well. 😔💔
Let's be honest, she was convinced to go by the guy. I doubt she would have gone into the cave without him egging her on.
@@Saber0003 bloody bastard, now she'll get to tell him, "I told you so"!
Can't really feel sorry for entitled tourists who think they know better than the locals and ignore multiple warnings of why going into a bug and snake infested cave during monsoon season is a horrible idea. Only one I feel sorry for is the kid who unfortunately got dragged into this. Absolute stupidity. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Number one rule of cave exploring is to completely ignore all advise given by those who are experts about the cave.
"a cess pit of insects. Things were going really well"
Yet another horrible tragedy due to people's silliness and lack of respect for rules. Unfortunately she and her boyfriend brought this on themselves
That's horrific. They all could have lived. I try not to be too harsh on these pple because I'm sure the self hatred and guilt is immeasurable for the survivors. Hopefully it just helps pple rethink such rash decisions.
Oh my gosh Ryan! That was such a horrific story. Why in the world..... I am at a loss for words on this one. I like to look at all these stories and truly learn from them weighing pros and cons before I trek out on adventures because you just never know😳 Always such great content Ryan, thanks🤙
Because the current of a flash flood is just like going down the lazy river at your local theme park!
Thank you very much Tragedy Tales. RIP to the people who died in this caving tragedy.🌹❤
My pleasure, Isabel
He jumped in the water after only a couple hours??? Dude gave up immediately.
I swear if they were watching a movie about this event they’d be like: “don’t go in there, are you stupid!”