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"Baine rescues Derek? Just play along". "Thrall and Saurfang want to rescue Baine? Just play along". "Traitors and the Alliance are besieging Orgimmar and going to kill Sylvanas? Just play along". Nathanos, are you OK?
"Just play along" "Hey so the other loyalists don't know you're a loyalist. Play along and kill them all." Mfw the Sylvanas loyalist choice makes you fight the loyalists anyway.
@@MrVlad12340 By having one of her loyalists kill a loyalist force made up of mainly her Forsaken, who are not really alive? This is galaxy brain levels of writing.
All these choices to rebel or follow along don't matter lol, it's just a flavor text, they just added it so "Loyalists" don't get triggered. Plot is set in stone anyway.
Kargath Bladefist (WoD) there was a datamined map of gates of Orgrimmar and N’Zoth’s prison. The new siege will begin in Nothern Barrens, not in the docks. God, I hope so much this has nothing sense for 8.3, or wow’s plot will be finally dead
I honestly think the choices are some sort of weird voting for the outcome, i got that feeling since there has been tons of stuff about overthrowing/keeping Sylvanas, it sorta makes sense
"not the first time we had to move against a corrupted Warchief" Seriously... Blizz themselves are saying that they're just recycling old ideas... They wasted a climatic plot like "bring the fight to the Legion's grounds" in one single patch, no surprise they run out of ideas, and go back to the plot tumor "red vs blue" that have a forgone conclusion (in an MMO neither the Alliance or the Horde can have a decisive victory like the Horde in the First War, or the Alliance in the Second War).
Because killing Baine wasn't incredibly important and she exposes more and more traitors. When she cleans house or becomes a loot pinata she'll know where everyone stood.
The issue is still unclear to me. Many complain regarding how Blizzard is destroying Sylvanas. Before BFA Sylvanas attacked Gilneas against Garrosh's order Or am I mistaken? She uses the blight which is disgusted not by alliance only but the horde as well. In BFA She always seems to look after her own choices than the horde leaders choices as well. Now I agree that blizzard is making those choices. But in my opinion she is a evil charc and she wants nothing but vengeance against what Arthas done to her and her people. The thing is she is willing to slaughter anyone even her faction? This is going downhill Siege of Orgrimmar 2.0 the undead version... No offense i'm Alliance, but I find it hard to see how Horde players(Not sylvanas's fan girling dickheads whom I hate)can't really make a voice to blizzard to choose how they want the game to go to. Feelsbadman
And she attacked the wolf city because garrosh told her to, plus it was in her territory, but he did call her a " bitch " when she res. The people she killed from the attack
Attacking Gilneas was done by Garrosh's orders. Tell me if I'm wrong but I think Sylvanas didnt want to fight anyone after Arthas' death in the first place. She just wanted to stay in Undercity and give new Forsaken the chance for a new life.
@@bisalissy3846 she did want to get the alliance off her land however, plus the city was killing undead, unknowingly walking into people who thought that everyone outside the city was dead
Ive stopped playing Wow over 8 months now ago. But I am still interessted in the story. So whats the main story now? Is Sylvanas corrupted by old Gods? Will she be the end boss of this expansion and die? Will Horde split into two versions?
VladTutushkin that choice would be? I mean your ordered by Anduin to break him out, what choice do you need? Not even trying to be a jerk I'm genuinely curious.
Kargath Bladefist (WoD) perhaps choices with Genn to do morally wrong things..... like genocide!!!!! Now that would implement an actual feeling towards the Worgen at last!
Ilija Kovachevich Well, Genn and Jaina do have a history of attempting genocide. So the Alliance do have seriously evil characters, Blizzard just doesn’t give their players much of a choice in the matter.
Bleeding Eye Watcher oh, it’s been a while. I would like to know your point of view on what’s happening in the Horde at the moment, and your thoughts on Thrall, if you want of course. As an Alliance player it just seams to me that the Garrosh incident is happening all over, and your thoughts are most interesting to me at the moment, with your strong opinions for the betterment of the Horde
Kargath Bladefist (WoD) tell him that we will not help the Horde no matter what kind of Horde it is? Remind how things went after Vol’Jin’s rebellion. Simply skip that quest and get something like “go meet with Genn and listen to Jaina after she returns”.
Mmmm. I've been getting back into Warhammer 40K recently. Might make a Chaos Space Marine army because those new models are great. So seeing the word "Loyalist" has me very conflicted... Damn it.... Also if Abaddon did invade Azeroth he'd still fail... somehow.
@@kaneslives he wouldnt have. Vision that Horus saw was a visuon of world after Heresy where his Legion was hated and wiped from the pages of history by revisionists. Basically he saw the fruits of his own treachery. In "better" world he would have being a celebrated hero while Magnus would have taken the palce of the Emperor on the Throne, allowing God-Emperor to fully return to his studies of warp, genetics and who knows what else.
Honorio Navarro Mesa unfortunately this isn’t game of thrones. No matter what both factions will survive..... but hey the traitors are a new thing that have a possibility of failing, so maybe you’ll get a win with that
Alexander Dimitrov ooooh yeah I forgot about the recent seasons. I meant by the seasons following the books: 1-4..... I want George to print the next books already
Honorio Navarro Mesa not happening - since both factions shall remain due to gameplay restrictions and also i REALLY doubt that Baine, Thrall and Lor’Themar with Mayla and Thalyssra are less popular then rotten hoe.
@@eldoh3388 what are they gonna do? Create an entire questline and alternate story but you killing the alliance, saurfang, lorthemar, thrall etc etc? They're fake choices. This aint no dragon age origins, baldurs gate whatever. This was never planned.
@@khalduras784 I know it's going to amount to nothing in the end, but to say it's "literally the same video" isn't accurate and that's all I'm pointing out.
Truth be told kind of bored with this expansion not the kind of all out war I was hoping for but I'm extremely eager to see how this will end for the Sylvanas loyalist (which I'm a member of for my own reason's of course).
This is such a fucking joke. The loyalist path is exactly the same. You pretend to help the traitors so much you end up doing exactly what they want, and then Blightcaller is just going "oh well, too bad, but we totally planned for this." Just cancel the story of this game already, the writers ran out of ideas four expansions ago.
How is it only horde players can be evil while alliance are always goody two shoes.blizzard destroyed the lore ,butchered honour on both sides and that wasn't enough was it.
If I could be neutral, I would tbh. I like both sides but I do see how Blizzard always makes the Horde out to be the bad guys. Like yeah, they have a fucked up past and they'll probably be viewed as the bad guys forever, but Blizzard never lets the Horde chill for a bit so they can redeem themselves from all the shit they did. The Horde is treated unfairly and the Alliance is kinda soft when it comes to justice.. which is why I'm neutral.
"Evil" yea and sending an small army of your own people (who were most likely the farmers they were talking about in a prior cinematic) to be sacrificed so you can invade a foreign country and kill its king is totally "good." Sorry this is war.
@@easygorunner4763 My thing is with the Horde, they want so bad to forget the memories and all the bad shit they did on draenor, but come to a new world and do the same thing over and over again. And when it comes to the young ppl of the Horde who didn't take part in Shattrath, their just war drones willing to kill anything and anyone to please their warcheif. The thing with the Alliance, the leaders are actually allies and friends, but only a few Horde leaders actually respect each other, other than that they don't really like each other, which is why they go through so many warcheifs. The Alliance take so many hard blows because they never put their foot down with the Horde. Anduin literally had Sylvanas in his face and he still offered her to surrender ? If it was ME or Varian or shit even Tyrande, they would have killed her on spot.. Without all of that conversation bs. The Horde isn't organized enough to a sensible faction. They rely more on muscle and strength, and not brains.
@@thesebytcheslame Says the faction whose capital was built from unpaid farmers and enslaved anything that wasn't aesthetically pleasing on free will >.>. You do know nathanos hate comes from being abandoned and hunted by the alliance when he was free'd from the lich king right?
@@easygorunner4763 I'm not defending the Alliance under any circumstances loll in my opinion both factions suck. But if Nathanos and his banshee waifu wanted to just demolish all life and kill everything, they could've just stayed with Arthas, why join the Horde just to make them look even worse than they already are? The Horde loses every war they start, so why keep going at it, losing more of your soldiers just to fight a war that doesn't help anything or anyone? Coming to a new world and killing everyone just to take it for yourself? Does that sound wise to you? The Horde is mentally slow and the Alliance are racist sofies.
I like how Blizzard is pretending to give you a choice here because they are too lazy to try and implement two different scenarios. It doesn't matter what you choose, its the same story! The only difference is occasionally you are told to "Oh just play along" "Grrr, I can't believe they survived after you played along. Oh well, we will get them next time"
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The alliance is evil trash it was Medivh that brought the orcs into their world it was never an invasion they were invited in.
"Baine rescues Derek? Just play along".
"Thrall and Saurfang want to rescue Baine? Just play along".
"Traitors and the Alliance are besieging Orgimmar and going to kill Sylvanas? Just play along".
Nathanos, are you OK?
You think you want choices.
*But you don’t*
"Just play along"
"Hey so the other loyalists don't know you're a loyalist. Play along and kill them all."
Mfw the Sylvanas loyalist choice makes you fight the loyalists anyway.
Maybe because she dosent care who dies or not? She wants all Life gone.
@@MrVlad12340 By having one of her loyalists kill a loyalist force made up of mainly her Forsaken, who are not really alive? This is galaxy brain levels of writing.
@Calevarn When does a spy not know it’s a spy? When it’s just another pawn! The Dark Lady has Forsaken you and the Horde!
@@fumarc4501 Spies are always pawns. They're the furthest behind lines and the first to be disavowed if things go south.
"My loyal champion, you must kill me in a 10 to 25 man raid and loot my corpse. Then we will have the traitors right where we want them."
All these choices to rebel or follow along don't matter lol, it's just a flavor text, they just added it so "Loyalists" don't get triggered. Plot is set in stone anyway.
Master Exploder Blizz said there won't be a SoO 2.0. But at this rate they are probably lying...
Kargath Bladefist (WoD) there was a datamined map of gates of Orgrimmar and N’Zoth’s prison. The new siege will begin in Nothern Barrens, not in the docks. God, I hope so much this has nothing sense for 8.3, or wow’s plot will be finally dead
The Mandarin link?
@@kaneslives Blizzard has lied to the fanbase so many time that no one will trust them anymore.
@@sergeykravchuk3266 Could you link it, please
I like how the player's health stayed at 100% through every fight, what a challenging and exciting game!
I serve the dark lady, no matter what
Should've have implemented the choices bullshit during MoP.
For the True Horde!
I'm interested to see how the champion betrays Sylvanas when the raid incomes
anyway whatever you choose, in the end it will end up same way :) but yeah you have now at least different walkthrough scenarios with same finale :P
Maybe Garrosh could've lived after all.
I honestly think the choices are some sort of weird voting for the outcome, i got that feeling since there has been tons of stuff about overthrowing/keeping Sylvanas, it sorta makes sense
I love how people talk about loyalty to Sylvanas but she doesn't give a crap about the other people you kill who are loyal to her.
Ssshhh.
It just makes them feel better about their choice 😂
That's just really lazy game design, it has nothing to do with the story.
So we have a choice again? to be with the rebellion or remain loyal.... aw dangit!
Anyone picture Sylvanas squeezing that tauren milk out of Baine when he is in chains?
You have a wild imagination.
Karren...you can't milk bulls.. only cows. Unless its another kind of milking.
shhhhhhhhhhhh, dont give the furfags ideas to do fetish art
derp
Hope that Sylvanas isn't controlled(or being whispered to) by N'zoth all along. It's just even more stupid.
"not the first time we had to move against a corrupted Warchief"
Seriously... Blizz themselves are saying that they're just recycling old ideas... They wasted a climatic plot like "bring the fight to the Legion's
grounds" in one single patch, no surprise they run out of ideas, and go back to the plot tumor "red vs blue" that have a forgone conclusion (in an MMO neither the Alliance or the Horde can have a decisive victory like the Horde in the First War, or the Alliance in the Second War).
Wait why would sylvanas loyalists rescue baine?
Sylvanas is allowing the civir war to happen so she can do her plan without trouble
@@orochinagis No, because it makes no difference you just get a different item reward for choosing a different quest path
Playing a double agent on her behalf.
Because killing Baine wasn't incredibly important and she exposes more and more traitors.
When she cleans house or becomes a loot pinata she'll know where everyone stood.
@@AkaroXIV they are not just "traitors" they are faction leaders, or even more - previous Warchief like Thrall. She bit more then she can chew.
For the Dark Lady!
*Chooses Loyalist*
Has to kill other loyalists
Me: What the fuck Richard?
The issue is still unclear to me. Many complain regarding how Blizzard is destroying Sylvanas.
Before BFA
Sylvanas attacked Gilneas against Garrosh's order Or am I mistaken?
She uses the blight which is disgusted not by alliance only but the horde as well.
In BFA
She always seems to look after her own choices than the horde leaders choices as well.
Now I agree that blizzard is making those choices. But in my opinion she is a evil charc and she wants nothing but vengeance against what Arthas done to her and her people. The thing is she is willing to slaughter anyone even her faction?
This is going downhill Siege of Orgrimmar 2.0 the undead version...
No offense i'm Alliance, but I find it hard to see how Horde players(Not sylvanas's fan girling dickheads whom I hate)can't really make a voice to blizzard to choose how they want the game to go to.
Feelsbadman
I think its just people getting mad about them reusing the " the warchief is evilllll " plot line
And she attacked the wolf city because garrosh told her to, plus it was in her territory, but he did call her a " bitch " when she res. The people she killed from the attack
Attacking Gilneas was done by Garrosh's orders. Tell me if I'm wrong but I think Sylvanas didnt want to fight anyone after Arthas' death in the first place. She just wanted to stay in Undercity and give new Forsaken the chance for a new life.
@@bisalissy3846 she did want to get the alliance off her land however, plus the city was killing undead, unknowingly walking into people who thought that everyone outside the city was dead
angel Harrison Gilneas wasnt attacking Forsaken in any way , shape or form.
Ive stopped playing Wow over 8 months now ago. But I am still interessted in the story. So whats the main story now? Is Sylvanas corrupted by old Gods? Will she be the end boss of this expansion and die? Will Horde split into two versions?
Wouldn't you like to know.
green jesus is back
Oooo I like this
You do not mind to overthrow Silvana?
a) No, not against
b) Yes, do not mind)))
*stares at option b*
smile of the soviet union
derp
And Alliance still waiting for our choice to even be implemented, lol.
VladTutushkin that choice would be? I mean your ordered by Anduin to break him out, what choice do you need? Not even trying to be a jerk I'm genuinely curious.
Kargath Bladefist (WoD) perhaps choices with Genn to do morally wrong things..... like genocide!!!!! Now that would implement an actual feeling towards the Worgen at last!
Ilija Kovachevich Well, Genn and Jaina do have a history of attempting genocide. So the Alliance do have seriously evil characters, Blizzard just doesn’t give their players much of a choice in the matter.
Bleeding Eye Watcher oh, it’s been a while. I would like to know your point of view on what’s happening in the Horde at the moment, and your thoughts on Thrall, if you want of course. As an Alliance player it just seams to me that the Garrosh incident is happening all over, and your thoughts are most interesting to me at the moment, with your strong opinions for the betterment of the Horde
Kargath Bladefist (WoD) tell him that we will not help the Horde no matter what kind of Horde it is? Remind how things went after Vol’Jin’s rebellion. Simply skip that quest and get something like “go meet with Genn and listen to Jaina after she returns”.
Mmmm. I've been getting back into Warhammer 40K recently. Might make a Chaos Space Marine army because those new models are great. So seeing the word "Loyalist" has me very conflicted... Damn it....
Also if Abaddon did invade Azeroth he'd still fail... somehow.
Marco Osinga the False Emperor would have wiped out the Space Marines if he had his way! You sorry blind slave!
@@kaneslives The Emperor protects!
Marco Osinga then wiped you out once he's done with you!
Btw the retconn that makes it so he really never did love the Primarchs is stupid.
@@kaneslives 🤔
@@kaneslives he wouldnt have. Vision that Horus saw was a visuon of world after Heresy where his Legion was hated and wiped from the pages of history by revisionists. Basically he saw the fruits of his own treachery. In "better" world he would have being a celebrated hero while Magnus would have taken the palce of the Emperor on the Throne, allowing God-Emperor to fully return to his studies of warp, genetics and who knows what else.
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Bleep Bloop, I am a Robot
I like this story. I think in the end Sylvanas will end up crushing many of the traitors and the Alliance. In Battle for Azeroth, you win or you die.
Honorio Navarro Mesa unfortunately this isn’t game of thrones. No matter what both factions will survive..... but hey the traitors are a new thing that have a possibility of failing, so maybe you’ll get a win with that
@@valon5069 Surviving the unsurvivable IS game of thrones now
Alexander Dimitrov ooooh yeah I forgot about the recent seasons. I meant by the seasons following the books: 1-4..... I want George to print the next books already
Honorio Navarro Mesa not happening - since both factions shall remain due to gameplay restrictions and also i REALLY doubt that Baine, Thrall and Lor’Themar with Mayla and Thalyssra are less popular then rotten hoe.
Even these “loyalists” are destined to destroy Sylvanas... it is inevitable. For the True Horde!
You sound just like Garrosh. Filthy traitor
@@099Nitro it is not a treachery to kill a dead whore. Her place is in the grave and her soul in that Hell she earned for herself.
Literally the same video
That's because there is no difference. Just "i see. Play along and kill all your fellow loyalist guys because.....just play along"
@@khalduras784 the end has the player report to nathanos.
@@eldoh3388 what are they gonna do? Create an entire questline and alternate story but you killing the alliance, saurfang, lorthemar, thrall etc etc? They're fake choices. This aint no dragon age origins, baldurs gate whatever. This was never planned.
@@khalduras784 I know it's going to amount to nothing in the end, but to say it's "literally the same video" isn't accurate and that's all I'm pointing out.
@@eldoh3388 sorry. Ive been in a very bad mood with wow these days especially with bfa
Truth be told kind of bored with this expansion not the kind of all out war I was hoping for but I'm extremely eager to see how this will end for the Sylvanas loyalist (which I'm a member of for my own reason's of course).
Hey,are you russian?You have a russian nickname,gye.
Snitches gets stitches.
This is such a fucking joke. The loyalist path is exactly the same. You pretend to help the traitors so much you end up doing exactly what they want, and then Blightcaller is just going "oh well, too bad, but we totally planned for this."
Just cancel the story of this game already, the writers ran out of ideas four expansions ago.
For sylvanas!!!
How is it only horde players can be evil while alliance are always goody two shoes.blizzard destroyed the lore ,butchered honour on both sides and that wasn't enough was it.
If I could be neutral, I would tbh. I like both sides but I do see how Blizzard always makes the Horde out to be the bad guys. Like yeah, they have a fucked up past and they'll probably be viewed as the bad guys forever, but Blizzard never lets the Horde chill for a bit so they can redeem themselves from all the shit they did. The Horde is treated unfairly and the Alliance is kinda soft when it comes to justice.. which is why I'm neutral.
"Evil" yea and sending an small army of your own people (who were most likely the farmers they were talking about in a prior cinematic) to be sacrificed so you can invade a foreign country and kill its king is totally "good." Sorry this is war.
@@easygorunner4763 My thing is with the Horde, they want so bad to forget the memories and all the bad shit they did on draenor, but come to a new world and do the same thing over and over again. And when it comes to the young ppl of the Horde who didn't take part in Shattrath, their just war drones willing to kill anything and anyone to please their warcheif. The thing with the Alliance, the leaders are actually allies and friends, but only a few Horde leaders actually respect each other, other than that they don't really like each other, which is why they go through so many warcheifs. The Alliance take so many hard blows because they never put their foot down with the Horde. Anduin literally had Sylvanas in his face and he still offered her to surrender ? If it was ME or Varian or shit even Tyrande, they would have killed her on spot.. Without all of that conversation bs. The Horde isn't organized enough to a sensible faction. They rely more on muscle and strength, and not brains.
@@thesebytcheslame Says the faction whose capital was built from unpaid farmers and enslaved anything that wasn't aesthetically pleasing on free will >.>. You do know nathanos hate comes from being abandoned and hunted by the alliance when he was free'd from the lich king right?
@@easygorunner4763 I'm not defending the Alliance under any circumstances loll in my opinion both factions suck. But if Nathanos and his banshee waifu wanted to just demolish all life and kill everything, they could've just stayed with Arthas, why join the Horde just to make them look even worse than they already are? The Horde loses every war they start, so why keep going at it, losing more of your soldiers just to fight a war that doesn't help anything or anyone? Coming to a new world and killing everyone just to take it for yourself? Does that sound wise to you? The Horde is mentally slow and the Alliance are racist sofies.
I serve the Banshee Queen!
This is such bullshit! Playing along is not player agency.
I like how Blizzard is pretending to give you a choice here because they are too lazy to try and implement two different scenarios. It doesn't matter what you choose, its the same story! The only difference is occasionally you are told to "Oh just play along" "Grrr, I can't believe they survived after you played along. Oh well, we will get them next time"
Why are we kill members of the Horde. This is so stupid.
Why are you uploading the same videos over and over.. I dont know how you're in my recommended but every time you upload something is something Ive seen before from exactly your channel... Hungry for views?
Watch till the end lol
WHAT? It's third version of this questline!
this questline has three versions - between the horde, alliance, and if you're a sylvanas loyalist. they're showing all of it...
There is zero difference to other versions. This is bullshit blizzard
Discasting Storyteling, Shame on you Blizzard 😑 !!!.