How Thrawn protected the Galaxy from the Yuuzhan Vong | Star Wars Battle Breakdown
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
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Today, we dig back into the Outbound Flight from Star Wars Legends, and look at how Thrawn protected the Galaxy from the Yuuzhan Vong! All that and more on today's Star Wars Battle Breakdown.
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What models do you use for the Chiss ships?
EckhartsLadder please do the covenant(halo) vs the new republic after the batle of endor
EckhartsLadder what are some good cannon books you recommend?
The Yuuzhan Vong (Star Wars) Vs the Ceph (Crysis series)
Thrawn attac
Thrawn protec
But most importantly, Thrawn push Yuuzhan Vong bacc
I laughed entirely too hard at this.
And what I am of this meme is sicc
I see this reference soooo aften.. what is the reference? (Attac, protec, etc.)
Genius
You got protecc and atacc in the wrong order
He's the hero we needed, but not the one we deserved.
Because I'm Batman!!!
Who would be the one we deserve?
Anakin ofc
Rey sucks bantha cock for pocket credits
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Some think that Thrawn’s genius was based on Napoleon but actually Napoleon was based off of Thrawn
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Thats actually true, as star wars takes place is a galaxy far far away, a long time ago
Fr
So true
I'm disappointed that you skimmed over the detail of what the final stages of Thrawn's plan actually was: to use the droid starfighters wired with what amounts to a neutron bomb to kill off all the vagaari. However, the contingency programming that Dorianna activated caused the starfighters to kamikaze into the various compartment seals within the dreadnaughts, at which point the neutron bombs were flown into the openings created and detonated. The civilians were kept safe by C'baoth having ordered them confined deep inside one of the dreadnoughts because they'd disobeyed him. I know, you're trying to keep the video relatively quick, but that detail sort of illustrates that although highly professional and opposed to simply killing without a specific need, Thrawn was fully prepared to simply erase an entire people from existence to protect the Ascendency and neutralize a distaction that might prove fatal in a confrontation with the "far outsiders"
Um... oooookay? Where the fuck did *this* come from?
Dare I ask WTF you're talking about?
Send the troll away, for now. He's not willing to stick to topics.
All this was printed PRE Disney anyway.
D.A.V.E LMAO. TLJ was a good movie.
I absolutely love this battle from Outbound Flight and the breakdown here is fantastic as always. Keep up the great work EL, the recent Thrawn videos have been greatly appreciated!
The Outbound Flight is really good at demonstrating one of Thrawn's greatest abilities: being able to accomplish great things with limited resources. For the battles we see in this book Thrawn only has a few small ships and fighters, as well as whatever gear his forces could salvage from defeated enemies. And yet he manages to defeat fleets that massively outnumber and/or outclass his own.
He just killed them all to death
Justin Y. That he did.
Yes, the mind of thrawn did.
But couldn't prevent his
Justin Y. They are now the most killedest group in the universe
Justin Y. For the one millionth time, you are everywhere.
Cool, never actually knew the circumstances around thrawn destroying outbound flight. Good to know.
It's in the legend novel, outbound flight.
Thrawn does not simply know war he is playing a completely different complex game that he made and knows all the rules in a dark room while being 20 stops ahead
Dark Side Darth revan you mean "steps"?
Markas Brown no
Blackzero Chiss Chess
空軍パイロット he taught Trump. That's how "my button is bigger than yours rocket man" got us peace. Each Tweet was filtered through the Chiss Chess algorithm.
only 20 steps ahead?
Well, these two battles are really different. The first one was won by advanced interdictor and jamming technology, as well as Thrawn's tactical thinking. The second one was won with the use of extensive knowledge and external assets. It was a pure strategic victory. Though it also relied on interdiction technology as well as, yet again, some form of jamming. This time "jedi jamming". The first one seems to be the most impressive. Since it's the one that relies less about stuff that Thrawn knows, but not us.
I spent the last 3 hours reading exactly that part of the book, now I'm on youtube and BAAAM, a video of exactly that part. Are you spying on me or something ?
Yeah, don't forgot to put the dogs out by the way. And you left the light on upstairs
Synchronicity
Also your phones listens to you
Honestly, I would be hard-pressed to choose. Thrawn it's just so good at turning the enemy's strengths against them. His character makes for good storytelling.
While the first one is my favorite so far, this one is a close second.
In both instances he takes calculated risks with minimal information and understanding, everyone calls him a Deus ex machina, but honestly he is a tactician, that's what they do, they never overlook things and become more powerful with knowledge.
1:17 - and that is where the concept for the Imperator Class Star Destroyer came from. Palpatine was indeed worried about the threat from outside the galaxy and the Imperator was put into design and production. Note I am saying Imperator not Imperial for a reason. In the original Star Wars Cross Sections (before Disney) it was said in the opening lines for the Star Destroyer that is was created to deal with the rebel threat - and possible threats from outside the galaxy - now we know why with Outbound.
Palpatine could have used those loose rumours as propaganda to encourage production, at very least yes. The name Imperator-class came from an alleged Geoffrey Mandel blueprint in the 80s, that was later confirmed to not be official in later years. It was initially thought to be though (by cross-sections author Curtis Saxton)
Indeed. Given everything pre Disney is now Legends the story of the Imperator one way or the other is that - Legend.
True. It was a fun bit of injected canon, that also started all those Latin names for warships as well, like the Praetor, Bellator, Mandator etc.
I also remember seeing speculation that a possible Yuuzhan Vong (or anything else) invasion was at least part of the reason for the various super weapons (besides just subjugating the galaxy under his rule) - the Death Star(s), the Eclipse(s), the World Devastators, the Galaxy Gun, etc.
Heck, you had Luke lamenting the loss of the Galaxy Gun during the Yuuzhan Vong War due to how helpful it would have been against the Yuuzhan Vong world ships.
HalfDemonInuyasha pretty much this. I would have liked Thrawn to be given more freedom to pursue his ventures during his time in the Empire. Could you imagine a Death Star defended by a fleet specifically crafted by Thrawn for that purpose? There wouldn't be any of that Skywalker shenanigans going on that's for sure.
I absolutely love these videos you put out man! The way you map out the space battles and detail as much as possible really leaves an open imagination of the actual battle! Well it does to me at least. But yeah dude keep up the Awesome work!
Outbound Flight was one of my Favorite Books im so happy you did a battle breakdown of it. Makes me want to re read it all over again.
I run a Star Wars Legends RPG Campaign for my friends and am about to get into Thrawn's return from the Unknown Regions. I'm afraid that I may not be able to display his unparallelled genius properly, but at the same time I'm very excited! Thanks to these videos, I believe I have a better chance of doing justice to one of the greatest Star Wars characters ever!
Captain Caras Out of curiosity, you have a Han Solo in there?
Out of curiosity , do you have a hand solo in there?
Brandon Rog Yes, there was. Although I try to keep movie protagonists in a small role so as not to hog the spotlight from the player characters.
Captain Caras Ok.
Yep im seeing this vid like 2 years later but i want to say:
Man you make my days, i really love your star wars...halo.. etc videos and put on play while i do more boring things (like home work etc) and your videos are like a jetpack for me:
They lift me over xD.
So much thanks about that Eck, keep doing this marvelous vids about lore, battles, ship breakdown and versus battles.... I really much appreciate them all ❤.
I love these videos 10/10 for entertainment value 👍
Classic Thrawn, being 5 steps ahead of everyone else.
you forgot a couple zeros
0000005 steps
Getting close to that 1/4 million mark, can’t wait to see you get there!
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I wish Disney made a Clone Wars/Rebels like animated adaption of some of the EU's better stories like Outbound Flight and the Thrawn Trilogy. It's not like a TV series based on books is unprecedented; just look at Game of Thrones. There's nothing wrong with making appropriate changes the way the MCU has adapted specific story arcs to accommodate the two-hour-movie mold.
Also, I know this would be difficult, but can you breakdown what is by far the largest space battle in the entire franchise? *The* *Battle* *of* *Yuuzhan'tar!*
I have made this request: thirty-one times.
Too bad! Have some SJW nonsense!
Sooo basically the outbound flight was a project set up by Palpatine just to kill a dozen of Jedi Masters?
I wonder how someone like Palpatine would have explained the Force to Thrawn
Idea: do an episode where you describe your “perfect fleet”, with access to ships from Star Wars, Halo, Mass Effect, and/or other sci-fi universes.
(20th try)
me too, but wit some star trek ships, because they are speedy. if nothing else, they can screen against small ships
I'd probably have some Mass Effect ships in there to because they look cool
Reapers, that's all I'll say
@@EngY2502 If so then I say the Necrons and the Eldars ships back in the War of Heavens is the best choice.
They are just broken is all I'll say.
Warden - 150 Death Stars with improvements to not be blown up so easily
I force myself to sit through ads for you, Eck =P
Use adblock plus for free, and see no ads, ever....
@@evanroberts2771 i think the point was hes helping the channel creator earn money by actually watching the ads. Sponsored video creators get paid for a full advert watched start to finish.
He probably gets demonetized anyways.
Every channel that produces anything people like gets demon-ed. :/
My favourite part of the video is always the dog at the end😁👍👍
I loved Outbound Flight, and your breakdown was amazing and informative. Do you think you'll do one for any of the battles from the Hand of Thrawn duology?
There a few real scale battles except at the end, but it is mare confusion more than a real battle. Other battles are just skirmishes resoved mostly by political cunning from Bel Iblis, or daring by Han Solo and Luke.
Recusant Class Light Destroyer vs Something
(Almost every video has this suggestion, Never giving up!!!)
Funfact: Palpatine created the Galatic Empire to protect the Galaxy from a future Yuuzhan Vong invasion! Yes Sidious was aware of their existence and he knew they were going to invade!
So he actually was a good guy?
That’s bullshit, making a strong empire to protect from extragalactic invaders is fine but he also enslaved trillions of people and the military was literally used to sew fear in the populace so as to prevent them from getting uppity. If he truly wanted to do that and only that, why not unite the galaxy in a more efficient way
@@ianscheurer well probably because that was just a side goal. He knew the true threat of the yuuzhan Vong and was scared of them, but was ultimately a brutal sadist who thought he was the sithari, the one sith, and wanted to rule the galaxy as a dark side theocracy.
This is another one of your videos I’ve watched involving the Outbound Flight. I see you love your Legends stories.
We are gathered here today to witness this special event of this two Very lovely People, Admiral Thrawn and Eck Thrawn.
Goodness gracious, your videos on Thrawn just become more and more amazing. I feel like it's going to keep escalating until something like How Thrawn beat an entire rebel fleet using a toothpick or something
The part at the end with the dog has me in tears lollllllll
What I like with C'Baoth as a character is that he shows that some of the jedi sense something is wrong and suspect that a new purge is coming, and he intended to use the Outbound Flight as a means of escaping whatever threat were coming their way. He was also opposed to the Ruusan Reformation and basically dismantled it on the ship with the intent of bringing the older form of the jedi order back. He was however also a force supremacist and by all rights a dark jedi who fell oh so very quickly when the time came.
Would love to see an old starfighter versus episode that compares the Empire's XG1 Starwing Assault Gunboat with the Rebel Aliance's B-Wing.
Would also like to see something on the "Adama Maneuver" from the Battlestar Galactica Season 3 episode Exodus, maybe comparing it to other unorthodox tactics in other series.
The Xg-1 would now appear to be canon, from it's mention in the Rebel Files book.
This was technically, the first Star Wars novel I read and finished.
T'was great.
(28th request) 1 CAS Class Assault Carrier with 4 CSS Class Battlecruisers and 4 SDV-class heavy corvettes VS 1 Bellator Class Super Star Destroyer (yes i look it up and the Bellator Class has Fighters about 100 of them) 4 Imperial 2 class Star Destroyers and 4 Dreadnought Class Heavy cruisers (theses ships use to be Victory 2 class Star Destroyers but that would give the Empire too much an edge in the battle so i made them Dreadnought class Heavy cruisers instated too make it equal in a way)
Honestly my favorite stories are ones where the bad guys turn out to truly be the good guys even though they have to act like the bad guys. Like emperor palpatine having to do all the dark side stuff to take control over the galaxy as preparations for fighting the yuuzhan vong. If it wasn't for him doing all that stuff to solidify a massive part of the galaxy into a small number of governments the galaxy wouldn't have had a chance since they would have been far too splintered and the fighting among themselves would have dwindled resources/capabilities. OR if was him pushing for constant battles that furthered technological advancement and production of weapons systems that allowed for a capable defense against the invasion. It's just a really complex and incredible story.
I like to think that The Joker is actually one of these kinds of bad guy is actually good guy kind of characters. Where he has 4th wall breaking powers but has to do all this evil shit to the super heroes as a way to get them to the points in their lives that they are capable of defeating all the super villains that come around which are capable of destroying everything. Like superboy prime, Mongul, Hank Henshaw, etc... Very few of them would have turned out the same way if it wasn't for the messed up stuff Joker did even if sometimes it was very subtle.
I had no knowledge of this until now. Very well done!
And it still kind of fits with the new Thrawn novels as backstory - for now at least.
Love this Series what would happen to the ship versus ship series
That mind-meld thing sounds absurdly OP.
I was a bit disappointed with how the Jedi Meld was defeated by the gimmick of being distracted by the mass casualties of the Vagari. It's too easy of an out that had no setup.
Please could you do a video focusing on Adm. Preston Cole in Halo? You’ve already made the video comparing him to Thrawn, but why not another one!
Galaxy: Get trouble bc for Yuuzhan Vong
Thrawn: Yeah, this is Big Brain time
I love this book.
i love how engaged you are with your audience
I will never get over how much of an absolute unit Thrawn was.
I would love to see thrawn go head to head against the Vong
Please keep these going I love learning about the best military mind in all of Star Wars
“Nice video” seems to be a trend
Yes! More great thrawn videos, i always enjoy watching these vids and thanks for doing these videos. Keep being amazing and have a great day!
I can tell you that Thrawn is my favorite Anti-Hero. His only fault was not seeing the possible ramifications of lying to the Noghri. I would argue that this move didn’t save the galaxy from the Yuuzhan Vong though. As they still invaded and caused mass distraction including the annihilation of Ithor. Had he been in command with the empires full power against the Yuuzhan Vong I wonder how different the war would’ve went. It’s probably my favorite part of the Legends in what I call the Skywalker era.
Thrawn: *shows up
Yuuzhan-vongs: *Current objective: SURVIVE*
Honestly, beating an entire Trade Federation battlegroup with what amounts to little more than the starting military fleet from Stellaris is probably the more impressive achievement.
Wait he had a brother? Nice!
Legally speaking he had a LOT of brothers. Chiss society is organized around a large family structure that adopts talented individuals
Those battle tactics videos of yours are amazing it must take you a lot of research in order to make them. Great work man.
Hey Ecki love ur vids keep up the good work I watch all ur videos and their amazing. Ur videos are like art to me.
Man, I have to get those books as soon as possible. I knew Thrawn was a Chiss of precise methodology, but this character is beyond epic!
Outbound Flight should've been allowed to go and explore the shit out of unknown space, but not under the command of the lunatic. I want to know more what's happening outside of the known space. Could've been a long series.
What do i think?
I think Thrawn is both a tactical AND strategic genius.
The Vong... The one conventional thing that Sith would WILLINGLY work with the Jedi to defeat... Probably anyways. Nice videos here. Would love to see more Vong VS the rest the Star Wars Universe battles. Its a big part the post Galactic Civil War era but i notice its not much covered
EckhartsLadder, I am curious about Thrawn facing against Gravemind from Halo. I think there might be a chance that Thrawn could be outclassed by Gravemind over time. Would Thrawn commit same acts as Forerunners?
I think what won the battle was highly advanced predictions and supernatural good timeing.
I don't recall that part of the Outbound Flight story... I remember some of the New Republic sending people out that way and finding it, I think Luke and a new padawan find it, probably one of the Solo children, and they find that the ship, crippled and drifting in an asteroid belt, connected to a few clusters which impacted the ship, closing off several sections...
They find that any child that appears to show any sign of having the gift(curse to them) of being able to use the force, is either killed outright, or imprisoned in another part of the ship, far away from the original survivors, a near unlivable area... filled with traps and rogue droids, including droidekas, which they fight and destroy, and thus finding their way into the colony ship's surviving sectors where the majority of survivors live; they relay the tale of how the commander went Dark-side, killed off most of the other surviving Jedi, and was then killed, along with crippling of the ship. The surviving generation of people who remembered it, condemned all Force-users, no matter how young, or innocent.
We definitely needed Thrawn’s genius when the Yuuzhan Vong invaded the galaxy.
You should do the battle for holy terra from warhammer 30K (Horus heresy) (third attempt)
When Thrawn graduated from the Imperial Naval Academy, he shook the Commandant's hand and said to him: "Keep it up, you're going to have a bright future."
Started reading it Yesterday
I love thrawn. Do the battle of Batoo that is an epic one
Yesterday’s probably. An entire CIS fleet, including 2 Lucrehulks with nothing but 3 patrol ships and a fighter squadron? That takes some serious skill.
Man you have the best outro
last time i was this early windu had hand
Replicators vs a Unified Star Wars universe (257th try now, *_I._** WILL NEEEEVER EEEVER GIVE UP!!!)*
Do you think that the Replicators could win?
You really dont do you?
I legit want to know, because I don't know THAT much about them, I think I know what I need to know, but you know, need that knowledge
It's Ya Boi Daniel they are from stargate, and honestly this would make an extremely interesting match up
+Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus I know they are from Star Gate, I also know that they can consume raw materials in order to replicate, and this has destroyed their home planet because of this, and they can also assimilate technologies which they consume which improves themselves, and they posed a threat to the entire galaxy, they are basically the Flood of non-organic things,
I just haven't seem them in action yet since I haven't really seen StarGate yet, and not all the information I want is on the wiki,
The Yuuzhan Vong: TIME TO. Die
The Chis: *loads RPG-7* you just F$&KED with the wrong Civilization
I suggest a video about who would win in Hand to hand combat a spartan or space marine
Here’s what I don’t get is they fight like it’s a 2d map or basically flat ground when this is a 3D battlefield. I guess since we’ve never actually done it, it’s hard to make imagined scenarios
best outro with doggo
Another video on what else is in the unknown regions and beyond
Either the First Battle of Bakura or the Battle of Geonosis (Galactic Civil War) for the next Battle Breakdown please.
I Love these battle breakdowns! Please make more about Thrawn. Also nice video.
now that i think about it, the Yuuzhan Vong are just star wars brand Tyranids.
Thrawn is a anime hero
Nice video
Everyone said: Where's Thrawn?
But nobody asked: How's Thrawn?
Its interesting that Palpetine know the danger of the Vong and also, that this was the first meeting between Thrawn and the jediJ. C. I would stil know, if Palpetine have plans to protect his future Empire of a attack of the Vong. Maybe a mystery fleet in the unknown regions or a special weapon
wow im learning alot about thrawn
An interesting sidenote is that the slavers had gravity wells, technology wholly alien to the chiss. Something that Thrawn gambled on and managed to seize, which was how he managed to trap both them and the Outbound Flight in the same area.
I had an idea for awhile that maybe Honoghr could have been the world that they crashed on, but then i looked at a galaxy map lol
CONGRATS ON 250K!!!!
Love the video, just bloody love it. Keep up with the good work!
I think you could use photoshop to create an alpha layer around those ship indicators, making the unnecessary parts transparent. This will make the whole thing looks better, since there won't be those huge black blocks flying around :P
While this is very impressive and definitely a battle to remember, the idea of 3 cruisers and 9 fighters, taking down TWO LUCREHULKS and extra escort ships, is amazing.
Both were impressive I want more of Thrawn's Victories
Thrawn is terrifyingly effective and brutal.
Thrawn is my all time favourite Star Wars character.
Also read Thrawn and Thrawn Alliances. Yay Thrawn!!
There's one simple way to beat the vong, that's with CIS window - flak guns firing APHE defoliator shells. Seriously, engaging them head on is not such a bad idea, especially in atmosphere.
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