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There’s something about the way he moves with that lightsaber that is visually interesting and says a lot more about his character than I think was intended
His character is mentally a mess and unstable just like his kyber crystal which is unstable, when he is Ben solo again in ep9 he fights much more refined since he is fully in the light
I honestly figure it's a combination of being Han's son and his training with Luke and Snoke. The blaster/dodging/physicality of it make me imagine Han teaching a little Ben his to throw a punch or wrestle and the sword technique, obviously, comes from the Force training. The way he combines them makes his fighting style very interesting to watch. Admittedly, the Duel of the Fates from Episode I is still probably my favorite duel in the entire series, but I do like Kylo/Ben's fighting style. And for all the 'Rey kicks his ass all the time' comments, I spotted at least two points in duel in his quarters and even more on the Death Star where he could have easily killed her, but he didn't make the strike. That's not even counting the times he could have taken the hit on Starkiller. And since we can see his reflexes are not exactly 'slow' it's not that he couldn't have, he chose not to. Read into that what you will.
@@fts166 i wish i could see what a blood lusted kylo fights like. when he's not conflicted about who he's killing he probably goes batshit crazy lmaooo
@@sootierpluto that’d be so badass. i always loved how they showed his style as aggressive yet held back, heavy and blunt yet precise and incisive. Clearly a paradoxical style of combat but the irony is he was in control the whole time. If ever a time where he lost all control and bloodlusted.. your right it’d be so morbidly fun to see😭😭
I agree & I also think the style of his lightsaber also plays a huge role in his fighting style. It’s very unique and I loved seeing his fighting style change when he used the blue one.
man I love the fact that when it is kylo the way he fight is brutal and agresiv and when its ben its more controlled and calm very good acting , adam driver is an insane actor
For real.. my favorite character, so annoyed he died. Crazy how they write a story about people failing ben solo while simultaneously failing to write his character
like damn bro, dude was supposed to be the new big dick then loses his first fight, then finally is cool in episode 8 only to be sidelined by palpatien and then killed off for no reason.
Yknow what I never noticed about Kylo? He dodges a lot of attacks without his saber out in the death star fight and then whips it out. He's cooler then we give credit for
I honestly believe kylo is the one of the coolest characters we’ve had in awhile and definitely the coolest In the sequel trilogy, if they hadn’t made him hella whiny and more leaned towards the rage aspect of him he could have rivaled the previous villains we have had
@@Ethmack Bro the mask is the symbol of Kylo's childish fanboyism towards Vader, it was imperative for him to leave his mask at some point to emancipate, which he does in TLJ (until ROS threw that evolution away)
Honestly I just want more Kylo Ren tbh, they should make a Disney + series of kylo and his knights just, doing stuff ig idk, idc either I just want more of this character, just call it Ren
@@hamidnessar9011 Nono, I want this to be pre Rey, like almost just after Ben destroys the temple, like we can see him getting his red lightsaber and becoming the leader of the knights of Ren
Me too. I love kylo. He is simply the best in the star wars universe for me. He is top strong in fight and i don't understand why he is dead, the productor are very stupid cribbio.
That story in the comic is so cool idk why people underestimate kylo i think people dont watch the trilogy cause someone says its bad so they don't watch it
@@itsdiamond5128 the sequels were objectively bad, but holy sht was kylo good. people judge him too harshly by association, but i'm sure they'd love him if the trilogy was better
The erratic almost goofy-clumsy like way he fights makes him such a badass that reflects his character. Best character in the series. He should have been the protagonist of the series. Period.
Best character in the series? 😂 He's good for a watered down post prequel / original era but would've never been able to take own an in prime Luke pre injury Vader palpatine or Yoda
I guess a lot of people don’t give Driver credit where it’s due, his style is very intentional. He’s pretty much handling the lightsaber like it’s a 2 handed great sword. Large, sweeping cuts with lots of momentum, which is why he dominates the fights in the first movie. But although he is “open” he is very agile to compensate for that and he uses his guard on his lightsaber a lot. Just a shame that apparently all that goes out the window after the first movie and everyone can suddenly fight the sword style that focuses on being oppressive and block his blows with ease. Like bruh, he has one of the most enjoyable styles to watch if you know what you’re looking at. Sure he looks “goofy” but you would too if you swung with momentum and in the style he did. Props to Driver for nailing that style. Too bad Kylo’s writing sucks
Yeah, I don't think it's necessarily bad either, it's just that they wanted to, for whatever stupid reason, make his lightsaber seem weighty, and he also has to be more careful because of the cross guard, so he makes these heavy looking clumsy swings like he's trying to swing a zweihander one handed. You see at the end one though, when he has that regular lightsaber from Rey he's a lot more energetic with it.
Well if you look carefully, he wield it like its a crossguard longsword which is the traditional swords that knights used and kylo ren is using the same techniques.@@furyassassin
I just wish they wouldn’t have revealed his face in the same movie he was introduced. I just love masked bad guys. It‘s Star Wars we've always had a cool guy with a mask. He was so menacing with his whole look and his first scene where he just stopped that blaster bolt mid air.
Good to see all the positive Kylo comments here. I’m old enough to have memories of seeing the original SW in the theater as a small child. SW has been part of my entire life experience and imho Kylo Ren is one of the greatest characters of any era. Much respect to Adam Driver and the writers.
People sometimes knock the cross guard lightsaber, but personally after watching SW clone wars, and just visiting the films & OG..again I think that is one of the coolest lightsaber designs ever, because of the fact that the user does risk injury! To me that means your skill level with using a lightsaber has to be even higher than most because not only in a duel do you have to watch your opponent but also your weapon! It's like an extra challenge so I for one will always be impressed by a character wielding a crossguard lightsaber! It also looks amazing!
Absolutely love how adam driver (and by extension his character) moves with the saber. He fights like it actually weighs as much as a metal sword would, and it feels way more real and expressive
I think thats what people didn't like actually. Lightsabres are supposed to weigh nothing, and in the original and prequels they moved very fast and spun at times, and there it made sense since they weigh nothing.
I still can't understand how Rey could defeat him in the 7th Movie like he was an semi trained Jedi/ all trained sith and she was a god damn scrapper🥲🥲🥲🥲
@@alptugraakan7490eh, mauls was pretty cool to be honest. But inquisitor wasn’t as interesting to me and general grievous just wielded multiple stolen sabers. Kylos is the coolest to me because of the design and the way he swings it and uses it.
Say what you will about Rise of Skywalker, but Ben’s scenes in the final fight, with the Dyad saber-swap and everything, are some of the best across the trilogy. Honestly, he’s got some of the best choreography in the entire FRANCHISE.
Makes me wish they had made these movies with more cars because Adam Driver really sold this character, and Kylo is probably the best thing to come from the sequels
Kylo should’ve been the one guy with a lightsaber in a galaxy almost devoid of force users. Even though he wasn’t fully trained, he would still stomp people effortlessly. That would’ve been cool
The fact about Kylo Ren is that when fighting with his lightsaber and his mask on, the movements are nothing like the elegant movement of yoda or nothing like the coordinated attacks of maul. He fights like a beast, an animal. Animalistic movements, using brute strength most of the time to overpower his opponents. Kylo with his mask is portrayed as a wild beast attacking its prey, especially with the groan or roar you hear when he freezes finn near the beginning just adds to the factor. If he never or atleast rarely took off his helmet, he would've likely been a far more fearful character. This is all without the fact his suit makes him look shady and mysterious, along with the dark attire of his suit allowing him to seeming blend in with the dark environments he usually fights in. I genuinely believe he could've rivalled or even surpassed Vader if he was done correctly, which he wasn't unfortunately 😐
this character might be very disappointing, but wow his lightsaber style matches him so much. his lightsaber style is purely based on power and control. my favorite part is 1:02 which shows that.
People were complaining about the lightsaber fighting in this but at the same time people complained with all the acrobatics from before and were intrigued with how detailed the fighting was in the obi wan series saying how realistic it was. This lightsaber fighting was basically the same as the obi wan series. So at this point people are just nit picking. Kylo to me was the highlight of this series. I just wish they had of leaned more to him being just plain evil vs him being what he was.
Kylo Ren does look very cool, but he will never be as intimidating as Vader. In every scene, just picture Vader, and look how much cooler the scene becomes.
Did you watch the same character? His style is literally reckless. He sacrifices defense for a powerful offense. It was an intentional choice to have him fight that way. He makes big broad powerful swings that leave himself open, but his enemies would have to sacrifice themselves to take the opportunity. Raw aggression.
@@SircoleYT That's literally what Form V (Djem So) is in canon though lol. Anakin was literally a master in its practice and Luke used the same Form against Vader in episode 6. It's entire premise is to overwhelm the opponent with a large volume of powerful attacks.
Adam did all he could to save the character. An absolute shame they wasted such talent. Could have been the greatest villain on screen in the SW universe.
I think I understand why the fights are so much more slower than the originals, it’s because they both use the same fighting style in which they use strong slow strikes.
I think it’s also due to adjusting to the saber weight. Ie rey looking like she can barely swing it. When kylo uses his tri saber it looks heavy when he swings it even though it’s mixed with his style, vs when he uses the blue saber his finesse is off the charts.
Virgin Rey: Grunts with every swing, has no fighting form, actually lost both times. Gigachad Kylo Ren: Doesn't grunt at all, uses form V, would've convincingly won both times if he wasn't conflicted.
7-8 should’ve been the transition of Kylo Ren & Rey getting closer and to gain more feelings towards one another. Then 9 would’ve been the movie of Kylo going back to Ben to help Rey destroy the First Order together. Then Palpatine wouldn’t have been needed honestly and would’ve just focus more on Snoke.
He sacrificed himself to save his comrade and buy him time, sure it failed but the Praetorian guards have the utmost loyalty to each other and to the supreme leader even after his death
Honestly I love kylo ren more than any character in star wars he is a half villain hes got a cool crackling sound lightsaber and a badass cloaked and helmet and the way he moves is just fantastic even though he doesn't have a force that's as strong as Vader for me he hes my number character in star wars cuz he just f**king amazing
Before the movie ended I had a dream in my head that Kylo would go to the light and Sideous convinces Rey to the dark so in the end they would have epic battles as bitter rivals with the roles reversed, but alas.
I saw a concept of Ben Solo, in Jedi armor with a green crossguard saber. It should have ended the other way around, Ben turning to save Rey and defeat Palpatine, and then saving Rey to give her the chance to change the name. So bad how they tried to make a Palpatine a chosen one
It amazes me how people say he's a bad duelist. He straight up carried the Throne Room fight, and did pretty well, he *dominates* in the duel with Finn in TFA and his encounters with Rey in TRoS, and then in the forest he literally lost because, ignoring the mental and emotional trauma he had just self-inflicted (and don't give me that 'he's dark sider' bollocks, he's not *Sith*, and even Vader - a Sith - struggled with mental health after Mustafar), he'd been stabbed by Finn and tanked a shot with a weapon shown to cause fully armored stormtroopers to do *backflips* before he had ever engaged Rey. She got *lucky* in that fight.
I think someone intended Finn to be the protagonist in the sequel trilogy, but someone killed that idea at Disney during production. Something about the way Kylo interected with him in that first movie seems like that might've been the case
Bro Finn got balls and a half for picking up that lightsaber man had no training no skill didn’t even know how to use proper and still tried Finn was honestly one of the best characters
I’m sorry but the scene on Takodana where Rey meets Kylo for the first time should be enough for people to stop crying about the Rey trilogy. It’s amazing and everyone loves Kylo, but hate rey. I don’t get it. Daisy has done a massive job channeling that fear of being cornered in the forest by a dark force sensitive in a mask, who has just froze me. Adam drivers physicality when using the cross guard saber. Chefs kiss.
Ok ill admit ive never seen the sequels, kylos casting is damn good, that lightsaber is amazing, the rage is too intense though, its like a padawan struggling with personal sensations brought up by injustices experianced in childhood, and noone was there to teach and guide him to overcome.. but, in my mind kylo needed to be the unstoppable force that vader was. Or were they trying to create an Anakin Skywalker struggling with emotion and sensation manifesting itself?
I love Kylo/Solo! Best character in the sequel trilogy but honestly Finn is awesome & even Hux, Poe, Rose, Rey there's a lot of good stuff in there, it just needed a happier ending for some, and a bit more character growth for others and more writer attention. Like forget Dark Horse they should have introduced some Vong or Evil Hutt Empire, or what about Prince Xizor, or the Dino race in Bakurra, crazy old C'baoth! I love the characters they introduced...just wish there was more time with them. They needed to keep the book 'open' so to speak with these new kids, not close it. That would have made all the difference!
Finn is great,is just a little strange that Finn can so easaly kill stormtrooper as an ex stormtrooper and they should give him a heroic death in the second movie!But i am hapoy overall with the movies
I think it would be cool if they focus on a dark side user like kylo getting slowly more into the light side since we’ve had the last few films about lightsiders getting pulled to the dark side
watching rey fight in comparison to kylo is just sad dude she looks like she's struggling and gonna lose every second while kylo looks like he's in control and the dominating force for most of his fights until plot kicks him down. no elegance, all these heavy swings like wild haymakers praying
He's not really weak, it's more so compared to Rey, he's basically outclassed. He's stomps on anything that isn't a jedi, and really the only time we seem him truly struggle is with Rey. Well, also that one red knight guard that started choking him, but prior to that he literally let go of his saber for no reason so tl:dr because a shit script. Kylo was pretty cool, and I was hoping he would've been like Anakin if he didn't lose his limbs, but alas all we got was a young luke with anger and daddy issues.
Idk if everyone else agrees with me when I say this, but personally I thought force awakens was an okay movie. Sure, it could have been (a lot) better, but I thought that it would take a completely different path with the following movies. They had potential with force awakens but then they messed everything up. Kylo ren is the best character from 7-9
If you think the issue with these movies were the point of view, you're just misogynistic; Maybe subconsciously. There was nothing wrong with Rey as a character. There were many things wrong with the story and plot. Changing things to see this story from a male perspective would not have fixed that in the slightest. Especially considering we do see it from his perspective for a good portion of the films. Just further goes to show what your subconscious is really thinking.
@@SircoleYT Personally, I feel like Rey: 1. Was too overpowered too soon, and won too many fights with too little experience 2. Lacked any decent character traits apart from "female warrior" traits 3. Didn't need to be a Palpatine; that felt very improvized and rushed. 4. Didn't go through enough struggles, physically or emotionally. 5. Had a fighting style that didn't reflect her physique. I'm a muscular dude and I would fight like Rey. She should be a lot more careful and have more finesse to make up for Ridley's ectomorph body and lack of physical power. But she didn't. Those are just the things I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more, but that's just my 2 cents. 👍
@@Solomon_CAgreed, she had no development or real experience and already seemed to master it. No build up to her arc and she was too overpowered unnecessarily as well.
Hot take, but I think that the duels in this movie were way better than the prequels, the duels in the prequel trilogy were fast paced however, it seemed as if they were only trying to attack each others lightsabers and not their opponent. While in the sequels you can clearly see the attacker and the defender and also clearly see the flow of the fight instead of just a bunch of quick lightsaber strikes
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Kylo should have been the protagonist of the whole story. Adam driver would have carried it all the way.
he was the main character
They should have made him Jacen or Anakin Solo, or even Ben Skywalker. He really was the only good thing that came out of these movies.
That would have been a cool twist
he was lmfaoo
@@superzeltron7530 Rey?
Adam Driver might have to retire due to back injuries, caused by carrying the heck out of this trilogy
such an original comment....
@Rompt 32 cap
@Rompt 32 he litteraly was there only to scream "REyYYYyYyy" 🤡
@@mp.357 that doesn’t mean he’s a bad actor, that’s just shitty writing. I’m not saying he was the best actor or carried the movie either tho.
@@WiredLain_ i didn't even said the actor was bad ? What are you up to?
There’s something about the way he moves with that lightsaber that is visually interesting and says a lot more about his character than I think was intended
His character is mentally a mess and unstable just like his kyber crystal which is unstable, when he is Ben solo again in ep9 he fights much more refined since he is fully in the light
I honestly figure it's a combination of being Han's son and his training with Luke and Snoke. The blaster/dodging/physicality of it make me imagine Han teaching a little Ben his to throw a punch or wrestle and the sword technique, obviously, comes from the Force training. The way he combines them makes his fighting style very interesting to watch.
Admittedly, the Duel of the Fates from Episode I is still probably my favorite duel in the entire series, but I do like Kylo/Ben's fighting style. And for all the 'Rey kicks his ass all the time' comments, I spotted at least two points in duel in his quarters and even more on the Death Star where he could have easily killed her, but he didn't make the strike. That's not even counting the times he could have taken the hit on Starkiller. And since we can see his reflexes are not exactly 'slow' it's not that he couldn't have, he chose not to. Read into that what you will.
@@fts166 i wish i could see what a blood lusted kylo fights like. when he's not conflicted about who he's killing he probably goes batshit crazy lmaooo
@@sootierpluto that’d be so badass. i always loved how they showed his style as aggressive yet held back, heavy and blunt yet precise and incisive. Clearly a paradoxical style of combat but the irony is he was in control the whole time. If ever a time where he lost all control and bloodlusted.. your right it’d be so morbidly fun to see😭😭
I agree & I also think the style of his lightsaber also plays a huge role in his fighting style. It’s very unique and I loved seeing his fighting style change when he used the blue one.
man I love the fact that when it is kylo the way he fight is brutal and agresiv and when its ben its more controlled and calm very good acting , adam driver is an insane actor
Not making fun or anything but why does he look like V from DMC 5??
@@bigbywolf5197 If you watched maxor's review he'll make jokes about that lol
@@aidanbrannagh7602bootleg sseth with no balls to make offensive jokes, disgusting twittoid
Baseball bat technique hits hard lol
They did Kylo wrong so many times wish they wrote the story better
For real.. my favorite character, so annoyed he died. Crazy how they write a story about people failing ben solo while simultaneously failing to write his character
Ben/Kylo was the ONLY good thing from these movies
He should've killed Rey
Still one of the best things about the sequels.
like damn bro, dude was supposed to be the new big dick then loses his first fight, then finally is cool in episode 8 only to be sidelined by palpatien and then killed off for no reason.
Yknow what I never noticed about Kylo? He dodges a lot of attacks without his saber out in the death star fight and then whips it out. He's cooler then we give credit for
Ik right?!
Btw I kinda do that in Star Wars Battlefront front 2
@@bigbywolf5197 same lol
@@gh0st_012 niiiice
Btw,great pfp!
@@bigbywolf5197 thanks m8
I honestly believe kylo is the one of the coolest characters we’ve had in awhile and definitely the coolest In the sequel trilogy, if they hadn’t made him hella whiny and more leaned towards the rage aspect of him he could have rivaled the previous villains we have had
Also make him better at doing his job and not joining the enemy
Oh yeah and also make him where his mask more
@@Ethmack Bro the mask is the symbol of Kylo's childish fanboyism towards Vader, it was imperative for him to leave his mask at some point to emancipate, which he does in TLJ (until ROS threw that evolution away)
@@valou-scaling oh
kylo would be a very good villian if the protaganist isnt rey
Honestly I just want more Kylo Ren tbh, they should make a Disney + series of kylo and his knights just, doing stuff ig idk, idc either I just want more of this character, just call it Ren
Yeah me too he's pretty interesting
And if they make Rey have plot armor again I will rage so hard
@@hamidnessar9011 Nono, I want this to be pre Rey, like almost just after Ben destroys the temple, like we can see him getting his red lightsaber and becoming the leader of the knights of Ren
No he was incredibly underutilized and they do it in his own show too
Me too. I love kylo. He is simply the best in the star wars universe for me. He is top strong in fight and i don't understand why he is dead, the productor are very stupid cribbio.
I like the idea of a broken crystal for his saber, it makes sense for him too
He was still pulling towards the light side when he tried
Because he cant do anything right? I joke I joke.
That story in the comic is so cool idk why people underestimate kylo i think people dont watch the trilogy cause someone says its bad so they don't watch it
The SEQUEL trilogy
@@itsdiamond5128 the sequels were objectively bad, but holy sht was kylo good. people judge him too harshly by association, but i'm sure they'd love him if the trilogy was better
The erratic almost goofy-clumsy like way he fights makes him such a badass that reflects his character. Best character in the series. He should have been the protagonist of the series. Period.
Not really goofy or clumsy ...find it to he more brute like tbh
Best character in the series? 😂 He's good for a watered down post prequel / original era but would've never been able to take own an in prime Luke pre injury Vader palpatine or Yoda
@@williamhollaway1960 No one said that.
@@kyell4617but it's facts
Only If it's the best character in the Sequels, in the series, never
I guess a lot of people don’t give Driver credit where it’s due, his style is very intentional. He’s pretty much handling the lightsaber like it’s a 2 handed great sword. Large, sweeping cuts with lots of momentum, which is why he dominates the fights in the first movie. But although he is “open” he is very agile to compensate for that and he uses his guard on his lightsaber a lot. Just a shame that apparently all that goes out the window after the first movie and everyone can suddenly fight the sword style that focuses on being oppressive and block his blows with ease. Like bruh, he has one of the most enjoyable styles to watch if you know what you’re looking at. Sure he looks “goofy” but you would too if you swung with momentum and in the style he did. Props to Driver for nailing that style. Too bad Kylo’s writing sucks
The forest scene was visually stunning , just wish it was a better light saber duel
It’s not really bad it’s just not fast paced or energetic as the prequel duels
Yeah, I don't think it's necessarily bad either, it's just that they wanted to, for whatever stupid reason, make his lightsaber seem weighty, and he also has to be more careful because of the cross guard, so he makes these heavy looking clumsy swings like he's trying to swing a zweihander one handed. You see at the end one though, when he has that regular lightsaber from Rey he's a lot more energetic with it.
@@furyassassin maybe since it's unstable it's harder to operate?
Well if you look carefully, he wield it like its a crossguard longsword which is the traditional swords that knights used and kylo ren is using the same techniques.@@furyassassin
@@furyassassinCould also be cause he was shot earlier
I just wish they wouldn’t have revealed his face in the same movie he was introduced. I just love masked bad guys. It‘s Star Wars we've always had a cool guy with a mask. He was so menacing with his whole look and his first scene where he just stopped that blaster bolt mid air.
I agree they should of waited on that
I have to agree,but over all the movies were quite good and i enjoyed them a lot!
@@brunoheggli2888 Hello fellow non-sequel hater!
I don't think they should have waited till the next movie, but they should have waited till the scene where he kills Han.
@@VisconitiKingfr Rey Rey,i miss you so much!You are the best!
Good to see all the positive Kylo comments here. I’m old enough to have memories of seeing the original SW in the theater as a small child. SW has been part of my entire life experience and imho Kylo Ren is one of the greatest characters of any era. Much respect to Adam Driver and the writers.
Kylo Ren is one of my favorite Star Wars villains.
People sometimes knock the cross guard lightsaber, but personally after watching SW clone wars, and just visiting the films & OG..again I think that is one of the coolest lightsaber designs ever, because of the fact that the user does risk injury! To me that means your skill level with using a lightsaber has to be even higher than most because not only in a duel do you have to watch your opponent but also your weapon! It's like an extra challenge so I for one will always be impressed by a character wielding a crossguard lightsaber! It also looks amazing!
He also uses it to his benefit by frying the opponents wrists during the clash, as shown in the duel with Finn
The way Kylo handle his light saber is unique. Strong wide cuts 💪
Until he has a less heavy saber and he does stabbing motions like he’s fencing. 🔥
Kylo ren ren is an absolute badass
There was so much potential in him
I laugh so hard @3:37, ever since someone said he was moonwalking in space.
Most smooth kill in all of sw 🤣🤣😆
Holy just noticed that
I personally really like the slow-ruggedness of Kylo Ren’s fighting style
Absolutely love how adam driver (and by extension his character) moves with the saber. He fights like it actually weighs as much as a metal sword would, and it feels way more real and expressive
A lightsaber should not weigh like a metal sword, a lightsaber blade has no weight
I think thats what people didn't like actually. Lightsabres are supposed to weigh nothing, and in the original and prequels they moved very fast and spun at times, and there it made sense since they weigh nothing.
Honestly the fight scenes are better than I gave them credit for. We have our issues with the sequel but the actors played their part perfectly.
The sound and look of the lightsaber are just way too good bro.
There should be 30 min of this man fighting w the saber
I still can't understand how Rey could defeat him in the 7th Movie like he was an semi trained Jedi/ all trained sith and she was a god damn scrapper🥲🥲🥲🥲
imagine the back pain he must have after carrying this whole trilogy
Kylo has the coolest and most unique saber in canon
Darth maul,the inquisitor,general grievous
@@alptugraakan7490eh, mauls was pretty cool to be honest. But inquisitor wasn’t as interesting to me and general grievous just wielded multiple stolen sabers. Kylos is the coolest to me because of the design and the way he swings it and uses it.
@@ryeyawn9396 understandable.I just replied like that cuz grievous wielding 4 sabers at once, must blow everyone's mind at 2005
@@alptugraakan7490 Isn't darksaber canon too? Talk about the coolest saber
Say what you will about Rise of Skywalker, but Ben’s scenes in the final fight, with the Dyad saber-swap and everything, are some of the best across the trilogy. Honestly, he’s got some of the best choreography in the entire FRANCHISE.
Pretty much the only good thing abt that movie tbh
Ehhh his choreography isnt the best in the whole franchise its mostly swining the saber like a bit in the air most of the time not hitting anything
I love how he swings his saber around like an actual goddamn claymore lol
Makes me wish they had made these movies with more cars because Adam Driver really sold this character, and Kylo is probably the best thing to come from the sequels
Kylo is a underated character yet my favorite
1:08 This reminds me to the scene of the Empire Strikes Back when Luke with little experience in the lightsaber, gave Darth Vader a strike.
kylo ren is badass🔥💯
Kylo should’ve been the one guy with a lightsaber in a galaxy almost devoid of force users. Even though he wasn’t fully trained, he would still stomp people effortlessly. That would’ve been cool
00:17 You can feel The Rey's despair jaja.
She’s never faced a sith before so it’d be believable she wouldn’t believe what she sees
Kylo’s scream for when Rey hits him in the face is priceless.
The fact about Kylo Ren is that when fighting with his lightsaber and his mask on, the movements are nothing like the elegant movement of yoda or nothing like the coordinated attacks of maul. He fights like a beast, an animal. Animalistic movements, using brute strength most of the time to overpower his opponents. Kylo with his mask is portrayed as a wild beast attacking its prey, especially with the groan or roar you hear when he freezes finn near the beginning just adds to the factor. If he never or atleast rarely took off his helmet, he would've likely been a far more fearful character. This is all without the fact his suit makes him look shady and mysterious, along with the dark attire of his suit allowing him to seeming blend in with the dark environments he usually fights in. I genuinely believe he could've rivalled or even surpassed Vader if he was done correctly, which he wasn't unfortunately 😐
Stopping the blaster bolt is def top 10 coldest Star Wars moments
this character might be very disappointing, but wow his lightsaber style matches him so much. his lightsaber style is purely based on power and control. my favorite part is 1:02 which shows that.
My favorite is at 3:30 he straight up slams that dude by lifting him with the hilt, so brutal
@@DeadlyScoots yeah
People were complaining about the lightsaber fighting in this but at the same time people complained with all the acrobatics from before and were intrigued with how detailed the fighting was in the obi wan series saying how realistic it was. This lightsaber fighting was basically the same as the obi wan series. So at this point people are just nit picking. Kylo to me was the highlight of this series. I just wish they had of leaned more to him being just plain evil vs him being what he was.
Probably the only badass character of the new trilogy. I like his story
0:50 “that lightsaber, it belongs to me.”
Kylo Ren does look very cool, but he will never be as intimidating as Vader. In every scene, just picture Vader, and look how much cooler the scene becomes.
i like kylo because he s so destroyed
I think he learned that the hard way.
Yeah well Vader is a seven foot metal man
honestly impressive how his fighting skill is shown, hes very calculating and careful
Did you watch the same character? His style is literally reckless. He sacrifices defense for a powerful offense. It was an intentional choice to have him fight that way. He makes big broad powerful swings that leave himself open, but his enemies would have to sacrifice themselves to take the opportunity. Raw aggression.
@@SircoleYT sounds like a planned tactic lol
@@SircoleYT That's literally what Form V (Djem So) is in canon though lol. Anakin was literally a master in its practice and Luke used the same Form against Vader in episode 6. It's entire premise is to overwhelm the opponent with a large volume of powerful attacks.
The gesture he makes at 5:59 after getting reys sword is SOOOOO Funny AHAHAHAHAH
Kinda like Obi Wan “well hello there” but more villainy
He’s definitely a Solo
Adam did all he could to save the character. An absolute shame they wasted such talent. Could have been the greatest villain on screen in the SW universe.
I think I understand why the fights are so much more slower than the originals, it’s because they both use the same fighting style in which they use strong slow strikes.
I think it’s also due to adjusting to the saber weight. Ie rey looking like she can barely swing it. When kylo uses his tri saber it looks heavy when he swings it even though it’s mixed with his style, vs when he uses the blue saber his finesse is off the charts.
"Sure, Jan"
When he was faster and more agile with the lighter lightsaber. Makes sense.
I was just saying this I think the tri saber is heavier kinda like a knights blade
Virgin Rey: Grunts with every swing, has no fighting form, actually lost both times.
Gigachad Kylo Ren: Doesn't grunt at all, uses form V, would've convincingly won both times if he wasn't conflicted.
Kylo is the only good thing to come out of the sequels
7-8 should’ve been the transition of Kylo Ren & Rey getting closer and to gain more feelings towards one another. Then 9 would’ve been the movie of Kylo going back to Ben to help Rey destroy the First Order together. Then Palpatine wouldn’t have been needed honestly and would’ve just focus more on Snoke.
Love the patoreon guard who just comes up to him with his arms parallel to block like that was gonna do something
He sacrificed himself to save his comrade and buy him time, sure it failed but the Praetorian guards have the utmost loyalty to each other and to the supreme leader even after his death
Cool lightsaber but still hate how Disney made it look like a heavy baseball bat
Honestly I love kylo ren more than any character in star wars he is a half villain hes got a cool crackling sound lightsaber and a badass cloaked and helmet and the way he moves is just fantastic even though he doesn't have a force that's as strong as Vader for me he hes my number character in star wars cuz he just f**king amazing
Long live SUPREME LEADER REN ♦️‼️
Before the movie ended I had a dream in my head that Kylo would go to the light and Sideous convinces Rey to the dark so in the end they would have epic battles as bitter rivals with the roles reversed, but alas.
that's superb idea
That’s what was hoping too. I wanted Kyle Ren to continue the Skywalker lineage.
Kylo Ren is badass
Fans:”the prequels(s’ duels )suck
Me:STAR WARS IS STAR WARS/DUELS ARE DUELS
His short time in the light side as Ben was such a cool character. I wish we saw more of that
Lightsaber: cuts trees clean in half
Also lightsaber:
minor back burn/cut.
I love Kylo's battle stance
I love how Rens lightsaber swings like it weighs 100 pounds
Kylo deserved so much better! He should have lived and rebuilt the Jedi and called him Ben Skywalker (A nice nod to Ben Skywalker from Legends).
Watching these fights back I realize I was an easy child to please
I saw a concept of Ben Solo, in Jedi armor with a green crossguard saber. It should have ended the other way around, Ben turning to save Rey and defeat Palpatine, and then saving Rey to give her the chance to change the name. So bad how they tried to make a Palpatine a chosen one
Kylo Ren is the only reason why i watched the sequel trilogy
0:45 that scream🤣
It amazes me how people say he's a bad duelist. He straight up carried the Throne Room fight, and did pretty well, he *dominates* in the duel with Finn in TFA and his encounters with Rey in TRoS, and then in the forest he literally lost because, ignoring the mental and emotional trauma he had just self-inflicted (and don't give me that 'he's dark sider' bollocks, he's not *Sith*, and even Vader - a Sith - struggled with mental health after Mustafar), he'd been stabbed by Finn and tanked a shot with a weapon shown to cause fully armored stormtroopers to do *backflips* before he had ever engaged Rey. She got *lucky* in that fight.
The only good choreography in the sequels is the small fight between Finn and Kylo. Actually looks like real swordfighting not baseball bat swinging.
I think someone intended Finn to be the protagonist in the sequel trilogy, but someone killed that idea at Disney during production. Something about the way Kylo interected with him in that first movie seems like that might've been the case
bro Kyle Ren has to be one of the most underrated Star Wars villains
He was barely a villain
Adam Driver is to the sequels what Ewan McGregor was to the Prequels
Rey: The good spammer
Kylo ren: Nice reflexes
Bro Finn got balls and a half for picking up that lightsaber man had no training no skill didn’t even know how to use proper and still tried Finn was honestly one of the best characters
I’m sorry but the scene on Takodana where Rey meets Kylo for the first time should be enough for people to stop crying about the Rey trilogy. It’s amazing and everyone loves Kylo, but hate rey. I don’t get it. Daisy has done a massive job channeling that fear of being cornered in the forest by a dark force sensitive in a mask, who has just froze me. Adam drivers physicality when using the cross guard saber. Chefs kiss.
Ahh, Kylo Ren, the protagonist of the sequel trilogy.
I really want to see more seems of Kylo Ren😢
Ok ill admit ive never seen the sequels, kylos casting is damn good, that lightsaber is amazing, the rage is too intense though, its like a padawan struggling with personal sensations brought up by injustices experianced in childhood, and noone was there to teach and guide him to overcome.. but, in my mind kylo needed to be the unstoppable force that vader was. Or were they trying to create an Anakin Skywalker struggling with emotion and sensation manifesting itself?
they kinda tried doing both for kylo, the conflicting nature of anakin and the dark brutality of vader in one character
Me fantasizing about having a lightsaber for lumberjacking purposes.
I wish they made Ben Solo the main Protagonist in this story, as well as improved his fighting style more
00:30 "THAT OLD MAN IS MAD!"
5:40 The fact that Rey really thought she could beat Anakin's grandson is still so crazy to me lmaoooo
I mean she did beat him once before
@@marlenewilson5939 yeah cuz disney love rey😂
How it should have went in Force Awakens with Luke showing up to save her not in the final installment.
@@johnboko7110 Remember, men can't save women anymore. That's illegal
His movements are so clunky yet aggressive.
I love Kylo/Solo! Best character in the sequel trilogy but honestly Finn is awesome & even Hux, Poe, Rose, Rey there's a lot of good stuff in there, it just needed a happier ending for some, and a bit more character growth for others and more writer attention. Like forget Dark Horse they should have introduced some Vong or Evil Hutt Empire, or what about Prince Xizor, or the Dino race in Bakurra, crazy old C'baoth! I love the characters they introduced...just wish there was more time with them. They needed to keep the book 'open' so to speak with these new kids, not close it. That would have made all the difference!
Finn is great,is just a little strange that Finn can so easaly kill stormtrooper as an ex stormtrooper and they should give him a heroic death in the second movie!But i am hapoy overall with the movies
0:50 This scene should’ve been Finn’s moment.
I think it would be cool if they focus on a dark side user like kylo getting slowly more into the light side since we’ve had the last few films about lightsiders getting pulled to the dark side
watching rey fight in comparison to kylo is just sad dude
she looks like she's struggling and gonna lose every second while kylo looks like he's in control and the dominating force for most of his fights until plot kicks him down. no elegance, all these heavy swings like wild haymakers praying
Still baffles me how rey defeated a fully trained kylo with no training at all
Why does Kylo ren feel so weak? He got trained by Luke and he was a skywalker….
because they wrote the story like some 10 years old kid.
@@Yetizada Thankyou
I think he didnt complete his training with Luke? he was still like a young padawan when Luke discovered his dark side, no?
He's not really weak, it's more so compared to Rey, he's basically outclassed. He's stomps on anything that isn't a jedi, and really the only time we seem him truly struggle is with Rey. Well, also that one red knight guard that started choking him, but prior to that he literally let go of his saber for no reason so tl:dr because a shit script. Kylo was pretty cool, and I was hoping he would've been like Anakin if he didn't lose his limbs, but alas all we got was a young luke with anger and daddy issues.
@@kapalshiuu yeah plus luke is a wack ass weak ass character anyways.
Idk if everyone else agrees with me when I say this, but personally I thought force awakens was an okay movie. Sure, it could have been (a lot) better, but I thought that it would take a completely different path with the following movies. They had potential with force awakens but then they messed everything up. Kylo ren is the best character from 7-9
Kylo is the goat
Imagine if Kylo was the main POV character of the sequel trilogy....
If you think the issue with these movies were the point of view, you're just misogynistic; Maybe subconsciously. There was nothing wrong with Rey as a character. There were many things wrong with the story and plot. Changing things to see this story from a male perspective would not have fixed that in the slightest. Especially considering we do see it from his perspective for a good portion of the films. Just further goes to show what your subconscious is really thinking.
@@SircoleYT Personally, I feel like Rey:
1. Was too overpowered too soon, and won too many fights with too little experience
2. Lacked any decent character traits apart from "female warrior" traits
3. Didn't need to be a Palpatine; that felt very improvized and rushed.
4. Didn't go through enough struggles, physically or emotionally.
5. Had a fighting style that didn't reflect her physique. I'm a muscular dude and I would fight like Rey. She should be a lot more careful and have more finesse to make up for Ridley's ectomorph body and lack of physical power. But she didn't.
Those are just the things I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more, but that's just my 2 cents. 👍
@@Solomon_CAgreed, she had no development or real experience and already seemed to master it. No build up to her arc and she was too overpowered unnecessarily as well.
@@DeBoto84 Yep, she could have been a good character, but the writers wrote her very lazily.
If they made the storyline actually good kylo would of been an even cooler character
kylo is a amazing
Kylo ren should of taken off the mask for the first time when confronting Solo, not Rey
He did we never saw his face until he was confronted by Han
@axelnilsson5124 re watch the film, he took it off when interrogating Rey, before confronting Han Solo
@@Raad187KO I guess that just shows how forgettable that scene was
@@axelnilsson5124 i see what you're saying 😂😂
The Force Awakans is the only good sequel. It was such a decent start but then Last Jedi fucked it all up
Hot take, but I think that the duels in this movie were way better than the prequels, the duels in the prequel trilogy were fast paced however, it seemed as if they were only trying to attack each others lightsabers and not their opponent. While in the sequels you can clearly see the attacker and the defender and also clearly see the flow of the fight instead of just a bunch of quick lightsaber strikes
Kylo ❤️
This like a compilation of grunts, light sabers and “REY!!”