Regulation….my key takeaways….thank you. 1. Tapping cheeks, chin, forehead, head, chest 2. Shake hands, bounce, squeeze hips, face yoga 3. Identify the feeling mentally, I am ______. It is okay. 4. Grounding self while it’s happening…in room, etc. 5. Community of safe people 6. Self-Parenting…put your child self on your lap, hold her, pat her on the back….IFS…speak to the voices…. 7. Dance, walk, stretch, ballet…. 8. Follow your curiosity to find your best ways to regulate 9. Hyper vigilant…mental manager operating…sway….find place in body 10. Repressed…pushing energy down, can’t take lid off…. 11. Change stories - recreate story endings to dreams, voices, etc.
finally a video that not only talks about somatic tools and nervous system regulation, but also provides some techniques that can actually be used. People need this and i hope that more youtubers will follow this example. There are enough talks about the effects on NS regulation and very little content on how to do it. I applaud your effort.
Elizabeth is describing my experience EXACTLY! I have not been able to fully articulate this total rejection of my somatic experience. When I would have a panic attack, from my early years through adulthood, I would leap up into my head and go into doing mode which suppressed 5he panic and affirmed my value as a "doer". I was straight A through high school and college. As an adult, I began to learn and explore my parts. I'm now approaching 66 and still evolving in this self-awareness. Thank you so much for your life transforming content. ❤
Not only was this helpful and grounded, it’s really well-structured. I appreciate how the interviewer asked questions; so spot on and yet still sensitive to the heaviness of the topic. The guest is perfect for the topic ❤
I love your work together! I honestly think Elizabeth should be a co-host with you and your father, she adds a whole new dimension to the conversation because of her background and experience! Great video! Thank you!❤
Glad to have found you here today, Forrest! You're a warm, knowledgeable, and empathetic host👍. Elizabeth is such a treat! She teaches with clarity and the kind of authenticity that are so warm and relatable. Encore!!!
This video is quite literally saving my life right now. I have never felt so seen and heard and spoken for ever before. This gives me so much hope during this really difficult beginning of my healing journey.
Radical honesty by Brad Blanton. They touch on the stuff in there for a bit but honesty with yourself is literally square one because how can you deal with something when you’re so busy containing it subconsciously
all I can say is: wow (and i’m sure that’s been said a thousand times before). this is my first time viewing this channel and i’ve never felt so seen while at the same time learning so much critical information. truly mind blowing and eye opening … I don’t even have words to describe it. just so incredibly helpful. thank you. 🙏🏼
For many years I dissociated and kept all my feelings bottled up. Now that I'm in a healthy relationship, I am starting to under regulate and 'fizz' out, getting overly emotional. Thank you for explaining this!
I’d like to think of myself as an articulate person but I seriously have no words. The je ne sais quoi of this episode is something I haven’t experienced since I was a child. You guys are revolutionary.
Now i understand why I feel regulated and energized after doing an online workout with a class. I find I'm smiling with the other participants and I feel grounded in my body.
Elizabeth’s aura is enchanting. Her calm demeanor must be so healing for clients. As someone who plans to begin grad school next year to be a therapist, I’m curious if she mostly learned somatic tools on her own or was the bulk of it through her grad school program? I’d love to do somatic experiencing and IFS as it comes so naturally. Thank all of you for making extraordinary content so accessible.
As someone who tends to be more on the underregulated side, I have learned that practicing what some call „emotional sobriety“ often works well, when I‘m dysregulated. Something clicked for me when you described the state as lacking containment, being everywhere and nowhere to be found. I have found that actually sometimes containing my feeling works better than following my gut and talking to every person that would listen in order to mine for reassurance (some part of me knows that this reassurance is not something that can actually be found with other humans, at least not in the ways my inner children would need it).I am a few years in my journey and it has taken me a long while to get here. I like to work with inner conferences, where I imagine my parts would sit down at a table and just talk to each other. It’s fascinating, what comes out during these conferences. It helps me to practice containing myself (usually my wiser adult is the the leader of the conference and encourages everybody to share). I don’t expect to ever get to being able to process every instance of dysregulation by myself (and I don’t think as humans we are meant to be) but it has helped me moving towards being more regulated in general, dealing with dyregulation and getting to know myself more. Sometimes during these conferences thoughts and feeling come up that I hadn‘t even realized were there. I don’t know if this makes sense, but maybe it could help someone.
Yea I definitely relate when you say sometimes riding out the intense emotions first, is more helpful than to listen to your gut and seeking reassurance/advice from others.
Congratulations Elizabeth for finding a healthy man to be with. Congratulations Forrest for winning the family lottery and spreading being healthy to other men. Congratulations for finding Elizabeth because she’s fantastic. I appreciate her transparency and honesty today. I’m going to have to replay this over and over again to understand where I’m doing some of these emotional behaviors because most people don’t explain it as well as she has.
I am a new LCSW and also am healing CPTSD. I find Elizabeth so very helpful particularly when I am feeling emotionally isolated and alone. This is someone who truly understands on an experiential level. At this point in my healing journey I am feeling stuck and I realize I have not had a therapist who openly shares they too have worked to heal CPTSD. I wonder your thoughts around if this is necessary in the intersubjective space to reach a deep felt sense of attunement? I trust my therapist of 6 years but wonder if I have gone as far as I can with her. Thank you for your work.
I'll ask Elizabeth for her take on this. My first thought is that trust in the therapeutic relationship is both essential and hard to come by. If you've found one you feel that way about I'd be cautious about letting it go. My second thought is that six years is a long time, and it could be that things have come to their natural stopping point. If you're comfortable with it, this sounds like a great thing to bring up directly with your therapist. Putting a charged topic like this on the table can sometimes help break through a plateau in the work.
Hi, I love your share as a new LCSW and also healing your own CPTSD! I'd love to hear about in what way's do you feel stuck more specifically? After 6 years, as you have done a lot of healing and growth, has that shifted your needs from therapist? Has it been expressed in any way? What type of therapist is she? All the questions lol.
You’ve drunk the therapy kool aid way too much and make assumptions that you need a therapist for years at a time. The idea you can’t survive without a therapist is ridiculous. Therapy is a turned into a cult.
I don't think (as someone with things) that having shared experiences is necessary. Not only could it be potentially re-traumatizing to that person (esp in ways they hadn't anticipated), but also that individual could still have a bootstrapping, "I figured it out & so can you" mentality Compassion (empathy + justice) certainly is necessary, tho
@@Heyu7her3 in fact having a damaged or mentally I’ll provider is a recipe to get abused and trauma dumped by that provider. It is just common sense. Wounded people generally are not good healers - healthy unwounded people are!
I so relate to 'somatic'... the swaying specifically. After I found out I had CPTSD, I was introduced to Qi Gong where we do lots of swaying, lots of breathwork and slowing down. It has had a long-term effect, and just now, when I was swaying along with Elizabeth and her explanation, I understood why. The words are an important aspect of the exercise for me. Thank you!
This might have been my favorite of all the listened to Being Well podcasts! What a team. Bring Elizabeth whenever you can! This one might be a podcast to revisit!
THIS is the content I have been searching for on RUclips for months. Thank you for the practical steps and self-regulation and self-soothing. Very noteworthy podcast from such a compassionate thoughtful and knowledgeable couple❤
It would be so special if you guys started a companion show to this one called something like ‘Loving Well.’ In it you could maybe share things about your journey as a couple and how you have navigated issues related to attachment wounding and developmental trauma (the way you do when you do shows together now) and you’d also interview therapists like Dr Jacob Ham, etc.
Thank you both for this episode. Truly, this is what has been in my heart and in my mind. When I first came in contact with my shame it terrified me, and I bolted. I wish I hadn’t because I missed out on the reparative experience. Now, little by little, I have gained more self presence and capacity for tolerating those intense shut down reactions, and I have been longing to find practical advice on healing my nervous system, where these deeply embedded responses (parts) from very early childhood adapted from. So this was meant for me. Thank you again, so much!❤️
Love this so much - I have already listened to this many times, thank you for the somatic/trauma approach - says an emotion-focused therapy student in Denmark
Elizabeth’s segments with you have been incredibly helpful for me-this one, the best by far. ❤️ I love your approach to hosting and facilitating the connection/conveyance of info from guest to audience-You are the “bridge”, so to speak. And I love the concise summaries you provide at the end. Thank you!
31:58 this explain why I’ve noticed in myself that whenever a new person is introduced to my awareness during my day I find that adjusting myself somehow physically helps accept the energy that is coming from them. As simple as raised eye brows, shift in weight, head tilt…all the way up to changing the course of direction I walk at that time but it’s organic and doesn’t seem offensive.
Thank you. This has been helpful. I'm at a stage in my life, where the experiences I had as a survivor are coming back to me as my adult childs processes her experiance living thru my cptsd recovery. I was going down the rabbit hole of blame and worthlessness.
Elizabeth, your explanations are so helpful to describe my structural dissoc. I am 50+ and just Feb 2023 started doing ART because i have been so frozen that EMDR wouldn't help.
I had a similar experience with EMDR when I was dissociated. I session after session with connecting to my feelings in an embodied way. Hands on somatic bodywork with a therapist has changed everything! Sending care 〰️💟
Shaking hands, swaying and so on are Stims that autistic people use all the time (until society teach us we aren’t normal). We have to use movement to ground if we are sensitive to the rest of our senses. Interoception isn’t great for us but we do seem to notice the need to ground when we stim 😊
I'm not even done watching the video yet (really enjoying it!) and I was also like, autistic stims! autistic stims!! Do we have this kind of innate knowledge about self-regulation? I'm so hyped :')
When you brought up releasing the energy in public I thought about how kids throw tantrums and parents tell their kids to behave. They teach kids to bottle up emotions. This made me wonder... how do we teach children to regulate that energy that fuels their emotions?
Elizabeth brings me so much peace and makes me feel so seen. I never hear anyone talk about the things I struggle with but she never fails so make me feel like "oh my gosh someone else has felt like this." I'd love if she would speak more about structural dissociation/cptsd because it's not something that is often talked about and leaves me and I'm sure others feeling extremely alone.
I am always so grateful for the recourses on RUclips. Here is a legitimate professional and I get to sit in my room and learn from her. Also she’s so pretty lol
I discovered that when i put on easy listening music like fallout radio my brain keeps the tempo and stays, instead of ramping up and reacting when the other person is argumentative and i can't disengage or leave. I can also sing something like amazing grace to myself when i dont need to respond or know what they are saying. I am taking this time to learn how to regulate, heal, and learn supreme self-control & self-care, and who i am and how i want to live and accomplish. They dont hurt me anymore and it was always verbal only :) Its like watching a zoo animal and studying it. They help me to be a better and more resilient me 👍 No worries, I dont give them any credit, and i am really proud of myself.** I however have something many do not... a point of reference. You dont know different, if this is all you have known. ** Be aware of the swamps of sadness and complacency **
Thank you. Going through a breakdown/detox/trauma release right now. Childhood stuff with added relationship abuse. Didn't realise how repressed I've been ( even though I'm scared of everything and always feel like I'm not really here). The first waves of emotions were very overwhelmed. I'm getting there bit by bit.
This is such a powerful conversation and anyone who has any trauma residue would greatly benefit from the inputs and tools given to help them control the intensity of their emotions🙏
Thank you so much Elizabeth for sharing your experiences. I’ve been feeling so loopy a year into intensive trauma work. I felt a slow decline after moving in with my partner. He's the first and so far only feeling of real safety and security on a somatic level. I think that's when the overcontrol started to wear away.
YALL have the best way of describing things. I love thefting certain phrasing, descriptors, and such. Always always good stuff and thanks for putting this out there.
I just started learning about emotional regulation and the vagus nerve and it fascinates me and it's been an eye opening experience. Practice, practice and practice self-love and self-care.
I’ve found that moving my body or head in small clockwise circles instantly puts me into parasympathetic mode. Squeezing each individual finger sequentially with the opposite hand does that as well. I also do certain things with my eyes and focus that let me switch into a calmer frame of mind too. It requires bit of practice, but it’s super effective.
Forrest thank you for all the knowledge you so elegantly present. I love the great closing summaries. Also learning and studying your über non violent communication style; I take your interactions with your father as 1:03:16 case studies ❤ onwards!
Same . I have been listening to Forest for over a year and have found it so relevant to my life. So thankful for him and Dr Rick. Always bring wonderful people into their podcasts!
"Witness The Experiencer!" Dr David R Hawkins cited this phrase and his work is immensely helpful to me. I hope it helps. First time viewer, and already a fan. Thank you both for such an amazing conversation, this is beyond words to express my gratitude, bless you guys ❤
I hate to see "grow up. " We are so hard on ourselves largely because other people have been so hard on us. We need to be more gentle with ourselves.WHILE we are trying to heal. What we are facing is real. So real, you can see it on a brain scan. I told someone the other day: "for me to try and 'undo trauma' would be like someone trying to 'unhave cancer' or 'unsee something we actually saw. " I wonder if you aren't saying to yourself something as critical as 'grow up' as a reaction to never being allowed to feel like you are okay just doing the best you can. I attack myself when I'm struggling with hard words like, "WHAT is WRONG with me? WHEN will it EVER just be OVER? " There is certainly a place for holding ourselves accountable, but not for treating ourselves down even more. 🩵 So, if you haven't picked up on it, the phrase, "Grow up," is a trigger for this girl! 😂 Hang in there, everyone, and keep believing in yourself.
This was a wonderful conversation. Absolutely validating. I tried swaying while I listened and noticed the different in my nervous system and body almost immediately. Thank you for sharing these wonderful tools. 💜
38:34 Thank you for sharing this. I think I have been focusing on trying to notice when I 𝑎𝑚 dysregulated but I love the idea of being more granular about it and trying to feel when it begins. This is embarrassing but I’ve been noticing that when I am about to have a dysregulated day, I seem unable to make myself brush my teeth or get dressed in weather-appropriate clothing. It makes a lot of sense to me to think about this like it is a younger part running the show. Everything you’re saying in this episode feels almost like a tight supportive hug to me right now. For the past months, I have been in a strictly DBT-oriented environment and I just have felt a little bit like I was going crazy.
Coming back to this one, I hope there will be more people like you in the Midwest to work with professionally, because I respect your boundaries so much. I wish you could come talk to my advisors at my college. They aren’t understanding what they don’t understand and I’ve been crying for days, like actually letting it out.
The stuff about rupture and there being repeated ruptures without repair lit up a lightbulb for me. Also when Elizabeth talked about movement, I really liked the idea of tapping. Something I'm going to retry now after a lot of years.
Wow! Such a GREAT conversation. Thank you. I have been participating in monthly Journey dance classes that have been a real game changer in regulating and getting back in touch with my body. Thank you to everyone searching to become more regulated whole people for themselves and their families and the world. ❤ You are doing really important work.
Staying with the experience doesn't necessary lead to anything good. Could even re-traumatize. Not all feelings/emotions are meant to be experienced/endured/tolerated. There's a reason we sense these things as unwanted. Listen to that part of you as well. And at about 50' she's referring to EFT tapping therapy (not a fan personally, could alternatively try EMDR which you can do on your own too). Don't forget the great relaxing effect of a nice, warm bath, or sauna.
This is brilliantly helpful- 🙏 so appreciate the real validation to the work in the present moment. Biggest problem is finding a safe group in small local community. 💌
Regulation….my key takeaways….thank you.
1. Tapping cheeks, chin, forehead, head, chest
2. Shake hands, bounce, squeeze hips, face yoga
3. Identify the feeling mentally, I am ______. It is okay.
4. Grounding self while it’s happening…in room, etc.
5. Community of safe people
6. Self-Parenting…put your child self on your lap, hold her, pat her on the back….IFS…speak to the voices….
7. Dance, walk, stretch, ballet….
8. Follow your curiosity to find your best ways to regulate
9. Hyper vigilant…mental manager operating…sway….find place in body
10. Repressed…pushing energy down, can’t take lid off….
11. Change stories - recreate story endings to dreams, voices, etc.
Thankyou for sharing
THANK U SO MUCH :) :) :)
This is a great list of pointers. Many to choose from in order to remember in 'the moment'
Thank you!
Thank you so much
Omg "there's a part of you that knows something" that is huge
Believing this has saved my life over and over.
Oh,if only I could find a therapist that understands emotional disregulation the way you two do-
They are out there. Most SE practitioners are aware. Check out Irene Lyon.
Many therapists are skilled at ER - try looking for someone trained somatic work
People in general being this educated would be amazing, but your wish might be a pre requisite for mine
Something about sweet Elizabeth calms my soul. 🥺
finally a video that not only talks about somatic tools and nervous system regulation, but also provides some techniques that can actually be used. People need this and i hope that more youtubers will follow this example. There are enough talks about the effects on NS regulation and very little content on how to do it. I applaud your effort.
Elizabeth is describing my experience EXACTLY! I have not been able to fully articulate this total rejection of my somatic experience. When I would have a panic attack, from my early years through adulthood, I would leap up into my head and go into doing mode which suppressed 5he panic and affirmed my value as a "doer". I was straight A through high school and college. As an adult, I began to learn and explore my parts. I'm now approaching 66 and still evolving in this self-awareness. Thank you so much for your life transforming content. ❤
Elizabeth is such a gracious wise woman, bless her
Not only was this helpful and grounded, it’s really well-structured. I appreciate how the interviewer asked questions; so spot on and yet still sensitive to the heaviness of the topic. The guest is perfect for the topic ❤
I love your work together! I honestly think Elizabeth should be a co-host with you and your father, she adds a whole new dimension to the conversation because of her background and experience! Great video! Thank you!❤
For real, this!!
I agree. She said so many things that helped connect the dots for me. I kept pausing the video to let the things she said sink in. Great comment.
Glad to have found you here today, Forrest! You're a warm, knowledgeable, and empathetic host👍. Elizabeth is such a treat! She teaches with clarity and the kind of authenticity that are so warm and relatable. Encore!!!
This video is quite literally saving my life right now. I have never felt so seen and heard and spoken for ever before. This gives me so much hope during this really difficult beginning of my healing journey.
Radical honesty by Brad Blanton. They touch on the stuff in there for a bit but honesty with yourself is literally square one because how can you deal with something when you’re so busy containing it subconsciously
all I can say is: wow (and i’m sure that’s been said a thousand times before). this is my first time viewing this channel and i’ve never felt so seen while at the same time learning so much critical information. truly mind blowing and eye opening … I don’t even have words to describe it. just so incredibly helpful. thank you. 🙏🏼
Same!!
For many years I dissociated and kept all my feelings bottled up. Now that I'm in a healthy relationship, I am starting to under regulate and 'fizz' out, getting overly emotional. Thank you for explaining this!
Overly emotional I have that too, lately.
I started to cry during a job interview. Never happened to me before but it is what it is.
You are a great inspiration for people like me who struggles with dissociation, Elizabeth, thank you 😊.
You guys have such a beautiful energy together and the way you relate / communicate really brings your teachings to life!!
I’d like to think of myself as an articulate person but I seriously have no words. The je ne sais quoi of this episode is something I haven’t experienced since I was a child. You guys are revolutionary.
Thank you for being angels in a harsh world x
Now i understand why I feel regulated and energized after doing an online workout with a class. I find I'm smiling with the other participants and I feel grounded in my body.
Elizabeth’s aura is enchanting. Her calm demeanor must be so healing for clients. As someone who plans to begin grad school next year to be a therapist, I’m curious if she mostly learned somatic tools on her own or was the bulk of it through her grad school program? I’d love to do somatic experiencing and IFS as it comes so naturally. Thank all of you for making extraordinary content so accessible.
I love videos with Elizabeth because they are so helpful.
Elizabeth never fails to bring me some wow realizations about my own self/nervous system. Thank you 🙏 ❤
As someone who tends to be more on the underregulated side, I have learned that practicing what some call „emotional sobriety“ often works well, when I‘m dysregulated. Something clicked for me when you described the state as lacking containment, being everywhere and nowhere to be found. I have found that actually sometimes containing my feeling works better than following my gut and talking to every person that would listen in order to mine for reassurance (some part of me knows that this reassurance is not something that can actually be found with other humans, at least not in the ways my inner children would need it).I am a few years in my journey and it has taken me a long while to get here.
I like to work with inner conferences, where I imagine my parts would sit down at a table and just talk to each other. It’s fascinating, what comes out during these conferences. It helps me to practice containing myself (usually my wiser adult is the the leader of the conference and encourages everybody to share). I don’t expect to ever get to being able to process every instance of dysregulation by myself (and I don’t think as humans we are meant to be) but it has helped me moving towards being more regulated in general, dealing with dyregulation and getting to know myself more. Sometimes during these conferences thoughts and feeling come up that I hadn‘t even realized were there.
I don’t know if this makes sense, but maybe it could help someone.
Yea I definitely relate when you say sometimes riding out the intense emotions first, is more helpful than to listen to your gut and seeking reassurance/advice from others.
@@mclovin7000 totally! And then, when one isn’t in total dysregulation, they can actually register potential corrective experiences.
Her hair is fabulous
Yea it’s got that voluminous 80s style
That's the most important thing about her, yes.
@@chillosophificationno one said it was
They both have fantastic hair ❤
Congratulations Elizabeth for finding a healthy man to be with. Congratulations Forrest for winning the family lottery and spreading being healthy to other men. Congratulations for finding Elizabeth because she’s fantastic. I appreciate her transparency and honesty today. I’m going to have to replay this over and over again to understand where I’m doing some of these emotional behaviors because most people don’t explain it as well as she has.
Thanks for your comment. He kept referring to her as his partner. I couldn't figure out if he meant it literally.
Yesss hearing them gives me hope. It’s so good to see what healthy conversations are supposed to look like.
Both Elizabeth and Forrest are super calm and present the information practically and not in a preachy way. I appreciated this episode!
I am a new LCSW and also am healing CPTSD. I find Elizabeth so very helpful particularly when I am feeling emotionally isolated and alone. This is someone who truly understands on an experiential level. At this point in my healing journey I am feeling stuck and I realize I have not had a therapist who openly shares they too have worked to heal CPTSD. I wonder your thoughts around if this is necessary in the intersubjective space to reach a deep felt sense of attunement? I trust my therapist of 6 years but wonder if I have gone as far as I can with her. Thank you for your work.
I'll ask Elizabeth for her take on this.
My first thought is that trust in the therapeutic relationship is both essential and hard to come by. If you've found one you feel that way about I'd be cautious about letting it go. My second thought is that six years is a long time, and it could be that things have come to their natural stopping point.
If you're comfortable with it, this sounds like a great thing to bring up directly with your therapist. Putting a charged topic like this on the table can sometimes help break through a plateau in the work.
Hi, I love your share as a new LCSW and also healing your own CPTSD! I'd love to hear about in what way's do you feel stuck more specifically? After 6 years, as you have done a lot of healing and growth, has that shifted your needs from therapist? Has it been expressed in any way? What type of therapist is she? All the questions lol.
You’ve drunk the therapy kool aid way too much and make assumptions that you need a therapist for years at a time. The idea you can’t survive without a therapist is ridiculous. Therapy is a turned into a cult.
I don't think (as someone with things) that having shared experiences is necessary. Not only could it be potentially re-traumatizing to that person (esp in ways they hadn't anticipated), but also that individual could still have a bootstrapping, "I figured it out & so can you" mentality
Compassion (empathy + justice) certainly is necessary, tho
@@Heyu7her3 in fact having a damaged or mentally I’ll provider is a recipe to get abused and trauma dumped by that provider. It is just common sense. Wounded people generally are not good healers - healthy unwounded people are!
Thank you so much for having her on again. Her presence is so calming and it's a balm to listen to her speak!
The tapping part mentioned is called Emotional Freedom Technique or eft tapping ! It’s a great method so glad to hear you talk about it
thank you guys for the enormous vulnerability you have offered. Faith in humanity ❤for me!
I like how you two talk and explain. Both of you.
I so relate to 'somatic'... the swaying specifically. After I found out I had CPTSD, I was introduced to Qi Gong where we do lots of swaying, lots of breathwork and slowing down. It has had a long-term effect, and just now, when I was swaying along with Elizabeth and her explanation, I understood why. The words are an important aspect of the exercise for me. Thank you!
This might have been my favorite of all the listened to Being Well podcasts! What a team. Bring Elizabeth whenever you can! This one might be a podcast to revisit!
Incredibly helpful episode 🙏 Thank you both so much!
Side note: Elizabeth, your hair is Disney princess level beautiful 🤗
It really is.
I noticed her hair too!!
She looks like Belle!
THIS is the content I have been searching for on RUclips for months. Thank you for the practical steps and self-regulation and self-soothing. Very noteworthy podcast from such a compassionate thoughtful and knowledgeable couple❤
Oh my god, minute 14:10 thank you so much. I have never heard someone say what I am experiencing.
Emotional Freedom Technique-EFT---Tapping. Great conversation and information, thank you!
It would be so special if you guys started a companion show to this one called something like ‘Loving Well.’
In it you could maybe share things about your journey as a couple and how you have navigated issues related to attachment wounding and developmental trauma (the way you do when you do shows together now) and you’d also interview therapists like Dr Jacob Ham, etc.
Check Terry Real podcasts. He's a relationship therapist. Excellent.
I second this! That would be extremely helpful to have a resource like that ❤
Thank you both for this episode. Truly, this is what has been in my heart and in my mind. When I first came in contact with my shame it terrified me, and I bolted. I wish I hadn’t because I missed out on the reparative experience. Now, little by little, I have gained more self presence and capacity for tolerating those intense shut down reactions, and I have been longing to find practical advice on healing my nervous system, where these deeply embedded responses (parts) from very early childhood adapted from. So this was meant for me. Thank you again, so much!❤️
A gold mine. Thank you, both.
Love this so much - I have already listened to this many times, thank you for the somatic/trauma approach - says an emotion-focused therapy student in Denmark
Elizabeth’s segments with you have been incredibly helpful for me-this one, the best by far. ❤️ I love your approach to hosting and facilitating the connection/conveyance of info from guest to audience-You are the “bridge”, so to speak. And I love the concise summaries you provide at the end. Thank you!
31:58 this explain why I’ve noticed in myself that whenever a new person is introduced to my awareness during my day I find that adjusting myself somehow physically helps accept the energy that is coming from them. As simple as raised eye brows, shift in weight, head tilt…all the way up to changing the course of direction I walk at that time but it’s organic and doesn’t seem offensive.
Thank you.
This has been helpful.
I'm at a stage in my life, where the experiences I had as a survivor are coming back to me as my adult childs processes her experiance living thru my cptsd recovery.
I was going down the rabbit hole of blame and worthlessness.
Just want to say thanks to you two. Thanks for the insights and tips for emotional regulation. And Forrest, always look forward to your next video.
Elizabeth, your explanations are so helpful to describe my structural dissoc. I am 50+ and just Feb 2023 started doing ART because i have been so frozen that EMDR wouldn't help.
I had a similar experience with EMDR when I was dissociated. I session after session with connecting to my feelings in an embodied way. Hands on somatic bodywork with a therapist has changed everything! Sending care 〰️💟
Shaking hands, swaying and so on are Stims that autistic people use all the time (until society teach us we aren’t normal). We have to use movement to ground if we are sensitive to the rest of our senses. Interoception isn’t great for us but we do seem to notice the need to ground when we stim 😊
I'm not even done watching the video yet (really enjoying it!) and I was also like, autistic stims! autistic stims!! Do we have this kind of innate knowledge about self-regulation? I'm so hyped :')
When you brought up releasing the energy in public I thought about how kids throw tantrums and parents tell their kids to behave. They teach kids to bottle up emotions. This made me wonder... how do we teach children to regulate that energy that fuels their emotions?
Look into Aba psychology never use negative reinforcement but the therapy works
Just saw this pop-up on my phone. Will listen now. Thank you!
I appreciate the honesty from both E & F and I am healing from the tools shared. Many Thanks!
Elizabeth brings me so much peace and makes me feel so seen. I never hear anyone talk about the things I struggle with but she never fails so make me feel like "oh my gosh someone else has felt like this."
I'd love if she would speak more about structural dissociation/cptsd because it's not something that is often talked about and leaves me and I'm sure others feeling extremely alone.
I am always so grateful for the recourses on RUclips. Here is a legitimate professional and I get to sit in my room and learn from her. Also she’s so pretty lol
So direct, so real, and so helpful! deep thanks to both participants!!
I discovered that when i put on easy listening music like fallout radio my brain keeps the tempo and stays, instead of ramping up and reacting when the other person is argumentative and i can't disengage or leave. I can also sing something like amazing grace to myself when i dont need to respond or know what they are saying.
I am taking this time to learn how to regulate, heal, and learn supreme self-control & self-care, and who i am and how i want to live and accomplish.
They dont hurt me anymore and it was always verbal only :) Its like watching a zoo animal and studying it. They help me to be a better and more resilient me 👍
No worries, I dont give them any credit, and i am really proud of myself.**
I however have something many do not... a point of reference. You dont know different, if this is all you have known.
** Be aware of the swamps of sadness and complacency **
Excellent chat with so much useful and practical information. Thank you.
I see the topic and feel instantly called out. I am going to tune. I love when you both work together because I relate to your communication styles. ❤
This is exactly the video I have been thinking, for a while now, that I really wish existed! Wow! 🍀🙏
Thank you. Going through a breakdown/detox/trauma release right now. Childhood stuff with added relationship abuse. Didn't realise how repressed I've been ( even though I'm scared of everything and always feel like I'm not really here). The first waves of emotions were very overwhelmed. I'm getting there bit by bit.
This is such a powerful conversation and anyone who has any trauma residue would greatly benefit from the inputs and tools given to help them control the intensity of their emotions🙏
Your summaries at the end are great. So useful.
Especially if you can't watch all at one time!
A fish who's expected to climb a tree... that's me.
Thank you for helping me start to understand something so foreign but needed. You're a great team.
Elizabeth! So beautiful to see you and hear your wise guidance 🙏 ❤
Thank you so much Elizabeth for sharing your experiences. I’ve been feeling so loopy a year into intensive trauma work. I felt a slow decline after moving in with my partner. He's the first and so far only feeling of real safety and security on a somatic level. I think that's when the overcontrol started to wear away.
YALL have the best way of describing things. I love thefting certain phrasing, descriptors, and such. Always always good stuff and thanks for putting this out there.
Forrest is the king of condensing experience into a relatable description
O My F-ing Word… this is so detailed, and intricate! I lack a lot of knowledge
I just started learning about emotional regulation and the vagus nerve and it fascinates me and it's been an eye opening experience. Practice, practice and practice self-love and self-care.
I’ve found that moving my body or head in small clockwise circles instantly puts me into parasympathetic mode. Squeezing each individual finger sequentially with the opposite hand does that as well. I also do certain things with my eyes and focus that let me switch into a calmer frame of mind too. It requires bit of practice, but it’s super effective.
Forrest thank you for all the knowledge you so elegantly present. I love the great closing summaries. Also learning and studying your über non violent communication style; I take your interactions with your father as 1:03:16 case studies ❤ onwards!
Here comes the future of healing!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you both for putting this together. It really helped get some insight on my own challenges and a direction to go in.
Same . I have been listening to Forest for over a year and have found it so relevant to my life. So thankful for him and Dr Rick. Always bring wonderful people into their podcasts!
I love the cross earrings..the only real way to have the depth of healing we need
"Witness The Experiencer!"
Dr David R Hawkins cited this phrase and his work is immensely helpful to me. I hope it helps.
First time viewer, and already a fan.
Thank you both for such an amazing conversation, this is beyond words to express my gratitude, bless you guys ❤
The tapping technique is called emotional freedom technique thanks for a very informative session 😊❤
Extremely helpful and clear! I love episodes with Elizabeth ❤
I love how some of us are actually getting together to grow up ❤🙏
I hate to see "grow up. " We are so hard on ourselves largely because other people have been so hard on us. We need to be more gentle with ourselves.WHILE we are trying to heal. What we are facing is real. So real, you can see it on a brain scan.
I told someone the other day: "for me to try and 'undo trauma' would be like someone trying to 'unhave cancer' or 'unsee something we actually saw. " I wonder if you aren't saying to yourself something as critical as 'grow up' as a reaction to never being allowed to feel like you are okay just doing the best you can. I attack myself when I'm struggling with hard words like, "WHAT is WRONG with me? WHEN will it EVER just be OVER? "
There is certainly a place for holding ourselves accountable, but not for treating ourselves down even more. 🩵
So, if you haven't picked up on it, the phrase, "Grow up," is a trigger for this girl! 😂
Hang in there, everyone, and keep believing in yourself.
Thank you for always summing things up at the end!
This is just wonderful and gives me hope. I love you guys. Thank you 🙏🏾
Needed to speed this up to hear it at a normal pace. lol. Thank you for this topic though!
Thank you so much for the work you both do. This video alone has changed so much for me, I can’t tell you my appreciate of you both enough ❤❤❤
This was a wonderful conversation. Absolutely validating. I tried swaying while I listened and noticed the different in my nervous system and body almost immediately.
Thank you for sharing these wonderful tools. 💜
you guys are so lovely ....thanx so much for such a great helping podcast
I’m in love with her hair!! So beautiful!! ❤ Thx for the info!!
38:34 Thank you for sharing this. I think I have been focusing on trying to notice when I 𝑎𝑚 dysregulated but I love the idea of being more granular about it and trying to feel when it begins.
This is embarrassing but I’ve been noticing that when I am about to have a dysregulated day, I seem unable to make myself brush my teeth or get dressed in weather-appropriate clothing. It makes a lot of sense to me to think about this like it is a younger part running the show.
Everything you’re saying in this episode feels almost like a tight supportive hug to me right now. For the past months, I have been in a strictly DBT-oriented environment and I just have felt a little bit like I was going crazy.
You two are great.. so good at expressing this part of our humanity, precious feeling, and emotional selves. Enjoyed this discussion. Thank you.
Coming back to this one, I hope there will be more people like you in the Midwest to work with professionally, because I respect your boundaries so much. I wish you could come talk to my advisors at my college. They aren’t understanding what they don’t understand and I’ve been crying for days, like actually letting it out.
The stuff about rupture and there being repeated ruptures without repair lit up a lightbulb for me.
Also when Elizabeth talked about movement, I really liked the idea of tapping. Something I'm going to retry now after a lot of years.
I liked "Faster EFT" style of Robert Gene Smith. There are loads of videos. Use of journaling for long term practices.@wordivore
That was the most in depth amazing podcast. I learnt so much and Elizabeth is an amazing somatic therapist. Thank you.
I’m new here but I’m grateful to see such an intelligent discussion about such difficult topics. Thank You
this wrecked me, but i needed it. going to have to listen several times i think thank you
Thank you to both of you, this session was very educational ... I appreciate that it was provided in such a understandable way.
This was really beautiful. Thank you so much
Thank you for that great, insightful conversation! 🙏
Wow! Such a GREAT conversation. Thank you. I have been participating in monthly Journey dance classes that have been a real game changer in regulating and getting back in touch with my body. Thank you to everyone searching to become more regulated whole people for themselves and their families and the world. ❤ You are doing really important work.
I love everything about this podcast. Elizabeth, you are amazing.
Thank you for share. Really benefited from the discussion
Staying with the experience doesn't necessary lead to anything good. Could even re-traumatize. Not all feelings/emotions are meant to be experienced/endured/tolerated. There's a reason we sense these things as unwanted. Listen to that part of you as well. And at about 50' she's referring to EFT tapping therapy (not a fan personally, could alternatively try EMDR which you can do on your own too). Don't forget the great relaxing effect of a nice, warm bath, or sauna.
An incredible conversation that covers so many essentials. Thank you!
This is brilliantly helpful- 🙏 so appreciate the real validation to the work in the present moment. Biggest problem is finding a safe group in small local community. 💌
Very good use of time and extremely helpful! Thank you!
Beautiful, inspiring, incredibly valuable. Will use this info to help myself and others with co-regulation. 🥰🥰🥰