Black Mesa - Questionable Ethics - Lobby Battle
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- One of the most badass parts of Black Mesa, where Gordon Freeman is ambushed by the HECU just before Surface Tension.
I had uploaded my take on this battle when the mod version released back in 2012. Since then, a couple of things have happened:
1) Black Mesa went retail and got a bunch of polish and new updates
2) I got a new computer so I can run this game at 1080p 60fps with minimal drops
I was able to record new footage of the game, and since the Xen release is right around the corner, thought I'd redo some of my old videos. Also tried to sync the Tau cannon to the ending of the song once again. Enjoy!
Original version: • Black Mesa (2012): Que...
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For anybody that is interested, I made an updated video of this sequence in my Definitive Edition playthrough of the chapter, linked here ruclips.net/video/Gnurktyx3tc/видео.html (timestamp: 27:49).
Much like the game I consider it to be the "definitive" version of the fight and I personally find it miles better than this one as I had the time to polish my mouse movements and syncing with the music :) Give it a watch:
Thank you for posting the timestamp! I agree, and appreciate the time you put in to make an even better version of this amazing scene.
The Gauss Gun blasting at the end litterly sync's so perfectly
Thanks!! Definitely tried to go for that haha
@@Sexy_Nutella I'm glad I'm not the only one who quickloaded repeatedly just to do this fight in sync with the music.
Yeahhh.thats was epic and perfect timing 😀
Too right. It gave me a semi.
*Tau Cannon
Its fine tho
Scientist, hearing music behind the door: "Freeman? Freeman!! What is happening in there?
*epic battle ensues
That is the most badass thing ever
yoo i recognize you! u were from rocky's stream right?
Aurora Borealis?
@@zingtea A U R O R A B O R E A L I S ? !
I think it’s fair to accept this is cannon for how freeman handled the fight
Lore accurate Gordon Freeman.
The moment when the door closes gives the player a jolt of panic; you think, "Oh, no, here come more enemies, and my allies are worried about my survival!" But then, the music really kicks in along with the gameplay skills you've built up over the previous parts of the campaign and you have a moment of realization: you're not locked in there with them. They're locked in there with *you*. Then, your allies catch up and are audibly horrified at what you've done. What an absolute masterclass in making the player feel like an absolute badass.
Yup, the actual fight itself absolutely railed me the first twenty times I played through it, but finally getting through it to see the carnage you've created is amazing. The scientists' reactions are icing on the cake.
Dude that is awesome!
bruh what do you mean at you're not locked in there with them- they're locked in there with you?..isn't that the same thing
@@MaxwellE985 late reply but he’s basically saying that Gordon is so badass that when the military attempts to “trap”him their the ones actually trapped since well their all gonna die by the freeman’s might
@@justsomeguyontheinternet5898 ohh ok
I think the scientists at the end are having two reactions at once here:
1. This man just turned a plethora of highly trained elite killers- who *set him up* - into a pile of mincemeat. This level of violence is cruel and ruthless!
2. If he _didn't_ do that, we'd all be dead right now, so maybe I _won't_ call him an absolute maniac.
That's a good take on why they reacted the way they did!
It is also a reference to Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, with Indiana Jones senior saying the same thing about his son massacring a room full of nazis
THANK GOD HE’S ON OUR SIDE! Basically.
@@MotorcycleCheetahThey're lucky Shephard wasn't there on the first day.
@@imgvillasrc1608If that happens it will be an legendary showdown.
“The facility must be under complete military control”
Lady considering what happens in surface tension.. I highly doubt that
To her credit she probably hasn't been out there to witness the HECU getting their asses whooped, but yeah, boy was she ever wrong
Technically it is.
Well, it just depends on which military you’re taking about.
I love how everyone is like "Freeman? Are you alright?" If there's still gunshots, he's still alive.
Freeman can’t be killed by anything. ANYTHING.
@@GlxzzWhat about by Valve's refusal to continue the Half Life story?
"Look what you did!"
**casually loads shotgun**
*loads shotgun with malicious intent ;)
Speaking of shotguns how goddamn powerful is the spas It makes people explode when hit at point blank
@@bowenlavalley3297 honest speaking, it can make your head explode and half of your body gone if a shotgun hit you at point blank in real life (just look at the shotgun shell, omg that thing), but still shotgun are no joke in close range, and that spas is goddamn powerful.
@@artistbackground8433 Shotguns are illegal in my country. After seeing a comment like this, I think I know why now. *_yikes._*
@@bowenlavalley3297He’s using the alt fire ability on it (Double shots). Don’t know how it’s supposed to work but it fires 2 shells at once.
"Talk to us Dammit!"
Not much of a scientist if he didn't notice that Freeman doesn't even talk to himself.
to be fair, black mesa's a big place and not many of the scientists know about freeman personally
freeman probably talked before the incident, but everything was happening so fast that he didnt even have time to speak during the games
This is *real* Gordon Freeman
No wonder everyone looks at Freeman with admiration in HL2 - dude became a badass overnight in Black Mesa.
Now unstand why gordon Freeman its legedaly
imagine what those scientists must think!
the door closes and the last thing they see is freeman disappearing with a helicopter hovering above. after the door closes they hear nothing but shouting, gunshots and explosions. when the door opens they see gordon standing there surrounded by dismembered body parts and dead soldiers!
if i were one of those scientists i'd literally shit myself!
You really put what the scientists must've been feeling into a great perspective. Freeman has already killed scores of HECU too by this point but this is the first time other observers were present. No wonder they were so shocked!
Honestly I think this is the greatest scene in gaming. The crowbar collective really knocked it out of the park with this
It's an amazing sequence for sure
"Look at what you did!"
"My god..."
"I...can't believe you did this..."
The mix of horror and sheer awe cements Gordon as a certified badass.
Agreed! Such a critical moment in his transformation
I mean, he killed all of them and that's horrifying
but at the same time he's your last hope
I think that's an Indiana Jones 3 reference
@@TheDude8008lol it is! I'm surprised how many people missed it, I laughed so hard
This scene in Black Mesa is the absolute pinnacle of the game to me. And the full finalization of Gordan Freeman switching his role, from an annoying mild threat of a scientist into an actual killing machine. Its like his character arc has hit its climax, this is the moment Gordon transferred from survivor to hunter. Earlier in the game the HECU wanted him because he was killing their men and resisting, and he was aided by his suit and some minor skills he obtained after the inital events fighting the slower and weaker enemies like zombies. But then, at this point he became a legitimate threat to the HECU, they couldnt take him down no matter how hard they tried. I imagine in the heat of the moment Gordon was just acting on instinct, and as he looks around at the bodies he stacked he thinks nothing of it, because he has taken so many up to this point. Everyone else is in shock, but now its just another day at the office for Gordon.
Well said. This is the moment where Gordon became the deadly unstoppable force that will stop at nothing until he saves the planet, and I'd wager his actions here spouted all those legendary stories people tell of him in the HL2 story arc which made the Combine REALLY worried about him.
That's exactly my headcanon and I couldn't have said it better. The big moment when the introverted geeky scientist with once barely any self-defense skills dies. The extreme circumstances pushed the hunt to become the hunter and its quick development to the point of obliterating alien forces and dozens of the most highly trained military in the world is as ridiculous as it sounds, which is why G-Man is so interested in Gordon, a person who, in his words, "adapts and survives against all odds" and has "limitless potential" (almost like a literal dimensional anomaly, but I guess here is where the stretch starts xD).
I think something that aids my thoughts here on this being Gordon's climax as a character is the fact that before this he had never faced a major combative threat besides the initial military engagement after reaching the surface for the first time and even then in most play throughs he runs quickly to safety as he is hunted. But Surface Tension has Gordon actively engaging the HECU Marines full force in what would be impossible odds. Fighting off not just Marines but their armor and aircraft and quite effectively. The Marines are setting up defensive positions rather than usually hunting down freeman. They want him to come to them because they know hunting him won't work. They have become the hunted. Freeman has evolved. Maybe he truly is an anomaly given his insane combat prowess versus Marines and special forces who trained for years to be the best fighters in the world.
this is the moment the game turned from a survival horror to a shoot ‘em up
@@echostar034 Props to G-man for keeping this valuable asset out of harm's way during the Combine invasion and then infiltrating him into the capital of occupation forces.
This entire part is literally Freeman's revenge for what they did back in the Apprehension when they knocked Freeman out and take his weapons away.
The scientist standing at the door, while both of you are looking at the Osprey: "They're waiting for you Gordon, in the lobby ambushhhhhh."
Yeah, the VTOL shouldve arrived a few secs later, then if wouldve been perfect
I love how they reacting about what Gordon did
Yeah. That's one thing that Black Mesa did very well: hitting home the point that Gordon Freeman became a legend in HL2 for a reason.
I like how the scientists reacted to Gordon's masacre
Yeah, it's as if they are both in awe and scared of Freeman.
This scene is a great example for how Black Mesa accentuates some parts of the game that are usually overlooked. Usually in regular HL1 when you reach this place, you shoot a few soldiers, use the scanner, go outside and don't think much of it. In Black Mesa, however, they used this part as an opportunity to really show how badass Gordon is and the crazy odds that are stacked up against him.
It's crazy how good HL1 was at environmental storytelling, yet there were so many parts that I still missed in all my playthroughs. But then Black Mesa comes along and shines a spotlight on those parts and it makes me realize how deep the storytelling in HL1 went, and that it perhaps was trying to say more than it was able to meaningfully communicate.
I also loved how they ended the chapter in Black Mesa; I always thought the ending was anti-climactic in the original
They expanded on a lot of things that I had gotten "vibes" for from the environment in the original, making certain details more overt or just flowing better due to the lack of technological limitations.
They also "fill in the blanks" on some areas, like how in apprehension you find the soldiers dead in the control room, jumped by headcrabs before they could make sure the job was done, which explains why you were just randomly left in there in the original
Also turned that part of the game into a turning point of sorts, a climax. At this point it becomes clear the military isn't just passively bumping into you or confidently trying to cleanly eliminate you. They already tried that, but now they're desperately trying to kill you outright, playing dirty, and are not playing nice anymore. Like throwing a satchel into a pipe to ambush you. You are their primary target during Surface Tension, correspondingly consisting of the most difficult HECU engagements in the game. But at the same time they're getting overwhelmed by Alien Grunts, culminating into one final major battle before the elevator into the Lambda lab. They finally say "fuck it", hence "Forget About Freeman". You never see HECU again once you reach the core.
Black Mesa ignited the narrative fuel that Valve left over due to technical limitations. Can't imagine the lobby fight packing the same narrative punch without this track.
THANK YOU FOR RECORDING THIS!!! I WANTED TO SHOW THIS FIGHT TO MY FRIEND BUT ALL THE VIDS I COULD FIND WERE TERRIBLE
No problem! Hope your friend liked it :)
@@Sexy_Nutella ayo man what settings you runnin this on
As someone who posted one of those videos of questionable quality, I agree.
why
Gordon Freeman: in room filled with soldiers
Also Gordon: I like those odds
Looks like it ended up being a trap for them ;)
I'm not locked in here with you, YOU'RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME
I played this back in the 2012 release version. Still just as badass. God I love this remake it's fucking fantastic.
One of the best remakes ever!!
Sexy Nutella Indeed!
The best remake for a game that got the WORST remake.
(Half-Life: Source)
Xen was not good though.
@@therealturkeylord8523 what the hell are you talking about? It's so much better then the og half life, it was absolutely breathtaking to see how they made xen.
Perfectly performed man, even with synchronization with the badass epic music. Truly outstanding!
That last note of the song is practically made for timing a fully charged Tau cannon shot alongside it :P
0:33 THEY'VE SET A TRAP FOR HIM
nutella: I've set a trap for them.
I'm not sure which is true:
1) HECU locks Gordon in as an attempt to kill him.
2) Scientists locked Gordon in to save themselves.
3) Gordon locks the scientists out to protect them.
I think I'll go with 3 for being more badass. You made it look like 2 and it looks funny.
Also you can see this scientist at lamda core if you choose one of the teleporters that means a happy ending for them
Probably 1 since the door locking was so sudden and quick when gordon went out you can also hear the scientists being worried at gordon
@@itsmant3 The nuclear warhead that killed literally every Black Mesa employee 💀
@@Tommyknocker. not all of them
@@itsmant3 Black Mesa has limited amount of NPC models and actors to voice them. Lambda Core is very far away from the bio labs, so these guys most likely died either from aliens, or soldiers, or a nuke. Lambda Core employees are also dead, thanks to the same nuke. There were no teleports leading to the surface, so I doubt they could get out. Barney with his group were able to get out only thanks to an old teleportation lab they found & made it's equipment start again.
This fight felt so true to OG Half Life, one of my favorite parts of the mod aside from the initial Xen reveal
The shotgun blast at the start of the firefight that changed the music was AWESOME
This is awesome. All I wanted was to see that fight again and rehear the completely shocked reaction from the NPCs. Instead, I got that, really good gameplay, and stuff synced to the song. Thank you for this!
No problem - if you're interested, I redid this sequence in my Definitive Edition playthrough: ruclips.net/video/Gnurktyx3tc/видео.html
Awesome! That was the first time I even heard Definitive Edition was a thing. I'm excited to see how the game performance might improve for me now. As before, the fight was excellent. I just love Questionable Ethics. Probably my favorite chapter in HL, and in Black Mesa it's outstanding.
I remember playing this part back in 2012 for the first time. I got obliterated so quickly
Same. 2012 Black Mesa was no joke when it came to difficulty haha
Tbh i died many times here
I think the music creator nailed it because it literally ends at the exact moment the fight ends for me always...with some kind of final boom or blast syncing with the end note...
Joel might have gone back and made it so that it ends right at the final shot then. At the time of this video I literally had to time to song with my actions
The music is done so well the whole way through, it kicks in again a bit later in this same section, when you jump into a courtyard and get the drop on another group, except this time you're taking them by surprise
I mean if you play on hard chances are the music ends before you kill them, they're a lot more dangerous
"They've set a trap for him" More like set a trap for themselves.
"Look at what you did!" That's epic.. this scientists better have some faith cuz they are seeing the ultimate champion of earth in action.
*1:30*
I absolutely love this!
I love doing it as well. Timing shots to the beat in this game feels great.
hi it's me again, I just got black mesa and did the exact same thing today lol
it's sad how the guy who gasses you up at the end immediately gets murked once you two walk out the door 😂
Yeah, poor guy :(
0:31
Scientist: You first
You Know The npc Of BLack Mesa are Smart, And Here You Can See Why.
Also interesting to think that this is the final push from the Marines to get Freeman. The rest of the marines pulled out earlier after "forget about Freeman" so these ones stayed behind probably just for revenge against Freeman. This really is their final hurrah as we don't really see them much after this IIRC.
Naw, this was actually before Forget about Freeman so there's still plenty of HECU at this point in time on the ground fighting the aliens. But they do have a personal vendetta against Freeman for sure
Bro,as a half life veteran,this game made me cry, especially this part,I can't stop rewatching this,might put it on loop
Glad you enjoyed it!
0:05 scientist question iq1000
I love how he kinda broke the fourth wall there haha
1:45 i love the interaction "what do you did", parts of soldiers bodies on every parts the scientist are horroriced
Yeah, it seems they are shocked at how Freeman managed to survive, but also that he killed all those marines there
The gun shooting and music singing were fantastic! Great work!
Glad you liked it!
epic battle
One of my favorites from the game for sure
I like how he killed the last enemy on the drop
Once I had that idea I knew I had to do it!
@@Sexy_Nutella
Marines: "We Got You Now!!!"
Also Marines: _"Why Do We Hear The Doom Eternal Music?!??"_
This whole fight felt like a trailer shot to me with the music and action and I loved ever time I retried it
Yeah, one of those memorable moments that persist with you after completing the game :)
The best part of the level
A great example of Black Mesa improving on the original as well! The original QE did lack a proper combat setpiece to end the level.
THIS MADMAN MATCHED THE SHOTGUN WITH BEATDROP!?! 0:53
;)
That's the magic of Gunsync baby
Makes any fight with music leagues better
To this day a legendary battle. And it will be for decades.
Timeless for sure.
The Scientists literally meat riding Gordon once they see the bloodshed around them
I get goosebumps. Black Mesa is a treasure.
It is. Super replayable too
@@Sexy_Nutella I can’t wait to finish the game so I can go back and play it again
this moment is ridiculously badass
Yup. Really helps lay down the foundation for why everyone reveres him in HL2
1:31 THAT SYNCCCCCCCCCCCC
Glad you liked it!
The best epic scene
Definitely!
This fight is so epic!! I'm glad they added this part in. Definitely a good call.
Agreed, it's a definite improvement over HL1's lackluster finale I'd say.
dude hearing the music before the battle is so satisfying like,
like im already hearing a shotgun pumping in the background and ospreys flying by
Yeah, those first few seconds of the song are pretty hype
I replayed this part so much, loved it, great video m8.
Thanks a lot!
Just stumbled across this, and man, thanks for uploading this. It's a great, iconic scene in the game, and you added a dash of showmanship to make it look good.
No problem :) If you're interested, I redid this sequence in my Definitive Edition playthrough, which I am actively working on:
ruclips.net/video/Gnurktyx3tc/видео.html
Before John Wick, there was one man whose day you REALLY didn't want to ruin.
The OG Badass
Freeman would win in a fight between the two Tbh
"Freeman, what's going on in there?!"
"MY GOD, THEY'VE SET A DANCE PARTY TRAP FOR HIM!"
Yo the tau canon is so perfectly synced with the music at the end
Happy you enjoyed that!
That TIMING though. Well done
Glad you liked it :)
"I see you can handle yourself out there" - Alyx Vance, Half-Life 2.
While then, 20 years back in time this video of Freeman kicking HECU's ass:
In Freeman's mind: "Lady, you don't even know the half of it"
@@Sexy_Nutella She just the life? 😆jk
Anywya, awesome video of Black Mesa: Blue Shift Bro, keep the great job
Well if you think about it, he was in stasis, so from Freeman's perspective he did all this shit like, the day before coming to City 17 lmao
I always imagined Gordon delivering that final shot in sync with the music with his fist towards the Sky.
Probably accurate given he doesn't say a single word ;P
Sciencist: Freeman! Freeman! Talk to us dammit!
Gordon really felt that
tfw everyone asks where is Freeman but not how is Freeman
The soundtrack in this part always making me hype for the battle. What a banger
Agreed. QE1 is god-tier
All I can say is this
“I’m not trapped In here with you, you’re trapped in here with me!”
this game was such a faithful remaster it lets people play the original half life but in a way that keeps up with modern shooter feels
I've always seen this encounter as Gordon's first steps from a mild mannered scientist, to becoming the unstoppable warrior he ends up as, by the time he fights the Nihilanth. And IMO, the music here cements the beginning of that transformation.
Agreed! Turning point for him for sure
I really really love all the musics Crowbar Collective put in this game, including this one.
"Talk to us damm it"
Freeman's mind voice:Sup fool
Lmao
Gordon freeman reminds me why I like old marvel he's just a badass.
Yeah, one of my favourite game heroes of all time :)
The fact that the hecu sends an all out assault For freeman but still fail is sad
Gg Man Gg, and the fact its in sync is the fucking best
Yeah, Freeman's just on another level entirely. This fight was really the turning point I think.
@@Sexy_Nutella indeed, and bms put lots of effort into it,making it a sad and Horrifying accident
Many Personnel killed and hecus, and it was nuked killing any surviving personnel that Couldn't follow gordon escape
Absolutely sick. The soundtrack, the fighting, the screaming, everything.
Look what you did! :O
I can't believe what you did! :O
"Holy shit!"
@@Sexy_Nutella
Marines: "We Got You Now!!!"
Gordon Freeman: *"You don't seem to get it.... I'm not locked in here with you; YOU'RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME!"*
Marines: **[SWEAT PROFUSELY]**
my man is getting 100+ fps on black mesa while im getting less than 50
It is a really demanding game for sure haha. More so than the other source games
These videos make we want to play Black Mesa so desperately. But I don't think my pc could handle this game and I don't have the money to upgrade it atm.
Once day I'll definitely play this.
I have started watching your Black Mesa lps, and I'm enjoying it. Keep up the good work.
Yeah, you definitely should once you get a chance - it's definitely a worthy re-imagining of HL1 :) I'm glad these playthroughs can help in the meantime. Hopefully I can get the rest of the series wrapped up in a timely fashion for ya.
I need more 150 dollars just to buy black mesa (nvm i have enough money for it)
This is made soo well, it's like a dance
Glad you like it!
the whole scene syncs with your gameplay, I love that epic music
It's an epic scene, I definitely tried to sync the gameplay to the music to make it more memorable :)
@@Sexy_Nutella I bet you did, what an amazing job
This is the moment Gordon became the Freeman
Indeed!
That shot when the beat dropped perfectly synced up with the music
I tried my best to time to the music so glad you noticed!
"YOU'RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME"
i trust people who time stuff to music. nice work!
Thanks!! Glad you liked it
Did anyone else feel like Gordon Christ when the song started playing?
The gaurd knew the most how difficult this is.
"Holy shit" is the best answer he can even say.
>Under complete military control
Not for long it wasn't ;)
Just seeing this now, and I'm speechless. That was incredible. Got me hyped for a game that came out years ago lol
It lives rent-free in my head :)
I love the music, as it starts fits. This time, it isnt you attacking, it is you fighting for your life until they can get the door open
This mission:
Scientist: Oh no, Gordon's been set up!
Gordon: Fools, I'm not stuck with them, they're stuck here with me.
Gordon Freeman. Marine Slayer.
Basically Half-Life's Doom slayer haha
I love your playthrough of Black Mesa, so cinematic. Well done.
I barely remember a scene like this in HL1 but I’ll never forget the music starting in this section
I just like how a whole platoon gets wiped out by one nerd in a hazard suit who is a MIT graduate
In short we grunts call him the "Orange Icepop."
Or a "goddamn orange tank"!
Only now, years later do I realize that the "look what you did" line is an Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade reference.
I watched that movie after playing Black Mesa so I wasn't aware of it until a couple of playthroughs in too! haha
I remember giving up on this level back in 2012. Not only were the grunts challenging but also they sounded as if they were constipated and that annoyed the heck out of me 😭
I’m glad their voices changed since then
I'm also a fan of the re-done voicelines haha. And yeah, the 2012 lobby fight was absolutely brutal.
I haven't felt a rush of energy quite like this since I first booted up DOOM 2016
The hype I experienced the first time was unreal. Of course, I died relatively quickly but it was still epic haha
@@Sexy_Nutella NGL I died a few times as well. If it was because of bad positioning or me just wanting to hear the music one more time, I cannot tell
1:45 Only just now realized this is a reference to Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Дверь - закрывается
Игрок - Бля
Эпичный музон - начинается
Игрок: Не меня заперли с вами... ЭТО ВАС ЗАПЕРЛИ СО МНОЙ!
Эта игра действительно делает Фримена крутым, как говорят люди.
Whether this is seen or not, Sexy Nutella, from your gameplay the way I see it, you are the authentic FREEMAN :)
Thank you :) For these videos I do try to emulate what I think Freeman would do
This part was so fucking fun.
Yep. So glad they added this into QE.
One of My Favourite Parts Of black mesa
I love the security guard's words during the aftermath. "Holy shit.... Look what you did!"
Same here. Really puts into perspective how impossible of a task Freeman was given that day