I am an aging hippie who does not understand why millennials are blamed for whatever is wrong with the world. Of course millennials are different, handle things differently, even use language differently because they have grown up in a world that is fundamentally different in terms of culture, politics, finance, and technology. Something would be wrong if each succeeding generation weren't different than those who came before.
As a millennial I think the reason my generation is blamed for a lot of crap and seen as "ungrateful" is because 1-we see the mistakes of the past with greater clarity than those before us and it ain't pretty. 2-we were placed in an economic situation where we can't achieve what our parents and grandparents did as easily due to a poorer economy. 3-reasons one and two piss us off and social media allows us to express that far more vocally than anyone in the past could. They are quick to point out our generations problems while glossing over the problems of their own and ignoring the positives we can bring and have brought.
@@Eltrio2 But your argument does NOT hold up b/c we have the BEST economy we have had in years. and yes you are RIGHT in #3 --- Millennials will always fail b/c they think life revolves around their opinion on Twitter or FB.....and it doesn't. And it never will. HARD WORK leads to quality life, not tweeting incessantly that you burned your avocado toast.
What we need to do is make sure that we not only stop judging the up and coming generation, but we also take that next generation aside and say "there will come a time in your life that you're going to see the generation younger than you and you may look down on them. Instead, you should try to learn from the mistakes of generations past who dismissed their successors as lazy and entitled."
Shroom1Up millenial propose equality, and a lot of them jump on that movement and use it as an excuse to be mean to white people, but like.... that doesn't matter. white people won't be persecuted (while they remain the majority in power) the same amount as black people have and kinda still are. There's a reason ghettos still exist, and municipal areas for towns exclude the 'black' areas where minorities are (everyone pays taxes, but the city doesn't pay to maintain the ghetto areas, which contain minorities, because they're poor, because of a bias against them at every stage)
I also think we should talk about the economic situation of millenials, a lot of industries are "being ruined" because we simply can't afford what those industries sell, baby boomers were born in a better moment in terms of the economy and usually were able to find better payed jobs than we do, also, media has made it easier to see the horrible aspects of some industries that earlier generations probably weren't aware of. So yeah, forgive me for killing u diamond industry, but i'm broke and also you pretty much have slaves
E MB Honestly yea, things are also ridiculously more expensive. The cost of living has gone up, if I cant even afford food how am I supposed to buy a freaking diamond
And some how, Millennial still vote in majority for democrat. Who signed the stupid Free Trade Agreement with China: Bill Clinton! Who destroyed Glass-Steagal for good and as a result was responsible for the subprime crisis: Bill Clinton! But still, the Millennial have not learned anything. "God laughs at men who deplore the effects of which they cherish the causes."
UM NO, the economy today is FAR superior than what the Baby Boomers had. The Baby Boomers made money b/c they WORKED THEIR ASSES OFF and they STAYED with companies for decades and thus earned PROMOTIONS. Something the average millennial is incapable of.
It makes complete sense that older generations would be upset to see "millenials" rejecting external status symbols (cars, "careers", diamond rings, home ownership, napkins, whatever) -- what's often phrased as "killing the X industry". They invested a lot of effort and made sacrifices to attain those symbols, in the expectation that they would get respect and social status for owning them. Rejecting them as irrelevant directly attacks their self-esteem. Compare also how dudebros tend to feel attacked by people who don't value tokens of traditional masculinity, another "millenial" development.
I'd like to think that because we're the generation that grew up with the Internet and virtually everyone has friends from across the globe, it might help shape foreign policies when we start moving into government and other positions of power. It's a lot harder to justify a war or even just seeing people from another country as faceless enemies when you're friends with some of them.
I don't think the abuse towards Millennials is worse, so to speak. I think it's just that with social media and the internet as it is, people are just able to communicate their opinions faster and more widely than before.
I actually don't think it's enough, because not every boomer is alive nor are they able to handle a computer mouse (I'm not being bigoted - I actually trained boomers as a job and life).
the hippie thing is different. the hippies were a fraction of one percent of the american youth and weren't 'mainstreamed' until following generations. baby boomers didn't identify with the hippie movement.
KaiGonGinn Hopefully the pro censorship "alt-left" is as much a minority as hippies were and don't speak for my generation as a whole. And I do think they are just a vocal minority thankfully.
KaiGonGinn This makes sense to me. My mom was a hippie, I am a millenial (she was older when she had me), and she doesn't identify with the "millenials ruining everything" ideology at all. In fact, there are some people she's worked with for years who are her age but have *totally* different perspectives on life because they were much more conforming while growing up.
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The 60's and 70's counterculture was way larger than a fraction of 1%. But it was concentrated in the west coast/north east and big cities/college towns. The psychedelic culture was mainstreamed in the early 70s and co-opted by Madison Ave. You have no idea what you are talking about.
I would think the pervasiveness of millennial hate more of a side effect of easy access to a wider audience than in the past. We are in the information age for a reason. Hype train hate is magnitudes higher now than the past simply because of more population with ability to distribute and collect information.
the one guy saying that 80s and 90s babies arent real millennials is completely wrong, that's literally the millennial generation! Post 2000 is Gen Z, who do not get a cool name.
I was literally born on the first year of the Millennials that person who said that probably it's most likely very ageist thinking they're going to stay 21 forever
I love how people, can't get over language transformation. So the 1st thing that you learn on linguistics, is that languages change over a course of time. This change consists of simplificatiton, and expantion. A) new ideas, inventions , actions = new words/ terms thus the language becomes more complicated. B) As we are more able to communicate in different forms , we also want to do it faster. An efficient message is short fast and easily understood by the listener. So If you are able to condense the message of a paragraph into two sentence text, why not? You save time both yours and the reciever's , even if this means to bend some spelling or grammatical rules, yet if the meaning is still the same as before than its an adaquate tool of the language which is not wrong hence correct. Thank you.
Because you sound like an ignorant arse and it makes you seem extremely lazy if you can not even be bothered write a full sentence. That's why most people hate it. Also with so many words that have similar letters it can often cause unnecessary confusion. Using the word YOU in a general sense, Not a personal attack
i hate the label "Milennials" i just think its so stupid sounding and sadly i seem to fall in the group. also i dont think we are ruining anything,we are much more aware of social issues and realize that we can make a stand as young adults.
LadyRedHawk The stigma of it kinda sucks since we're pretty used to the word "millenial" being followed by something having to do with us ruining something
That or the stigma of millennials not having a lot of common sense and doing a lot of stupid stuff. Yes I'll agree that a label doesn't define me as a person,it just hurts my pride a bit.
Mike, I just subbed to this channel earlier this week and started catching up on the backlog. Well done sir. Amazing channel and friggin' really intricate research.
I'm from Yorkshire (a region of Northern England), and we've always said while sentences as words... We can be quite difficult to understand. Also, I was very shocked at 34 to find out I read a millennial, I assumed it was people green years younger than me... But the rational for where generations start and stop does make sense,even if it is surprising.
Mike, you may fall into the "Oregon Trail Generation". This was a great article (Mashable) about one of the micro-generations within the Millennials. They called this group the "Oregon Trail Generation" in the article, which I think is an awsome name. mashable.com/2015/05/21/oregon-trail-generation/#vMF61ZDKEkqq
To your point about a shifting generational relations... I think the millenial generation will be PARTICULARLY bad a accepting the next generations "burning the deadwood to make room for new ideas." Mainly due to the emphasis on youth culture as a commercial demographic (which began with the baby boomers). If i am correct, you will see many millenials fall into 1 of 2 traps: 1. Insisting that they value youth culture when it really doesn't speak to them (think of the old guy who insists he loves hip hop and EDM as part of a midlife crisis. Or Kevin Smith, who seems to equate immaturity with youth) and 2. Anger at the next generation. I think some of the comments on the prime video speak to this, esp those that refer to youth as the millenial generations "time to shine." The comment was something like "I hope Millenials remember what its like when it is the next generations time to shine?" --- seriously unpack all that is implicit in that...... that most of what "shines" comes from youth culture? That once you pass into adulthood your time to shine has past...... sounds scary!
I know this is an old comment but would you said is 100% the truth . As a millennial we don't want to accept the fact that we're getting old and now the spotlight is on Generation Z . People are even making crap up saying that people from Generation Z born from 1995 onward . And I'm just like dude just accept the fact that we are not the it generation anymore . We have to move on the spotlight is now officially on a new generation . You can't be young and free forever that's not the life the way life works . And unfortunately I already see this we are basically going to be a bunch of older people trying to still hold on to our youth . This is exactly why we are a complete failure of a generation that will never grow up . We are basically the example of what not to be like .
I think there's such a gap between people who grew up with internet culture and people for whom it was a new thing when they were... say, even 10 or older. I don't consider someone who doesn't know (or at least wasn't alive and conscious in a way they could have known) who Strong Bad is to be part of my generation.
I wanted to respond to your comment about being worried about how our generation won't 'learn' from the past, in relation to baby boomers whom didn't learn even after the free-sex movement. We have the great tombstone of our generation always looming over us. I speak ofcourse about the internet. Nothing we say will ever be forgotten, and our kids generation will always be able to look this up and realize that we said we would understand. (HI JONAH!!!) We are the first generation to truly know more about the world than our elders, and we will be the first generation to not believe that the next generation is ruining the world.
And I would say an important thing we have to do is not to get angry at people who are having trouble adjusting to the push for equality, but help them get used to it
I think that outrage the next generation by millennials will happen in the same way this sort of thing always has. This is based on the anecdotal evidence that a friend of mine who is a teenager(whatever generation that falls under now) hates new Nerf products explicitly because they are not the toy guns of his childhood, even the ones that are just reskins of the models he knows and loves. He thinks that every toy and cartoon that was after his childhood is shit. Let me remind you this is the opinion of someone still in High School not some old curmudgeon. So I think that there will always be people like this and the question isn't whether or not there will be generational outrage because there will, but whether or not we will learn to ignore it.
IdeaChannel Can you do a video on the expression 2deep4you, what I mean is is art that is incomprehensible to most still good art if no one understands it ?because the point of art is to deliver a message right ?
I'm not sure if Mike/Idea Channel has done it, but I remember the exact answer being done before. sometimes its very literal, when things require thought after thought, experience and reflection to understand. "2deep4me/you" being a casual self-made insult or claim to simply not have the time or interest to delve into the subject. art (as in a way to deliver a message) can be complex, full of meta-comments, have very heavy or negative subject matter that some people may just not feel they can tackle.
It is interesting that he automatically assumed it was a non-English name, and apologised for any potential mangling before applying a seconds critical thought and realising it was just spelled backwards, though. That is what millenials *should* be blamed for, the hateful little gobblers
I realize I am SUPER late to the ballgame here, but how in the world did you not discuss the obvious fact that millennial are just plain f***ing poor?! Put more articulately, our persistent financial insecurity (resulting often from the cost of higher education and stagnant and low wages in a post-recession economy) has profoundly impacted our priorities and how we choose to spend the limited expendable income we do have. We're not so poor as to be starving, but broke enough that we have to seriously consider how to maximize the utility of of each dollar we spend. Just as diamonds are useless expensive rocks, so too the McWrap is a cheap, garbage, uninspired waste of a meal. If I'm going to spend $15 on a decent meal, I need more of an experience than the vibe of a chain restaurant that is so bland that it is representative of nowhere at all but can easily be wedged inoffensively into anywhere at all.
Re: whether millennials may relate to the next generation differently. I think the issue is that we'll only ever really hear the voices in the old generations that *do* complain about the new one. There are Gen Xers and Baby Boomers who are fine with Millennials, for instance, but they don't really make lengthy thinkpieces about it because there's not really much to say on the topic of "this is fine". I think that'll be the same issue with Millennials and the next gen: there are Millennials with conservative views, as we've clearly established by now with the rise of…ahem…certain political movements…and they will definitely condemn the next generation's changing ways the way their forebears did. Whether the proportion of conservatives in Millennials as they age will follow the same trend as previous generations, that's the more interesting question, I think. The fact that we get to see all the harsh criticism of old generation, that we're more connected, etc., may change that; or it may not. I don't know for sure.
I disagree with the point you made about the loss of privilege feeling like a loss of equality. It seems to me that the "equalization" of historically disadvantaged groups isn't just "seeming" to come at the cost of opportunities for traditionally privileged groups, it actively is denying them opportunities based on immutable characteristics. We are seeing this happen with the BBC in the UK. So far at least two tv hosts have been bumped from headlining spots on their shows to be replaced with more "diverse" choices. Plus hiring quotas have actively prevented the promotion of qualified, hard working people who are just trying to provide for their families. I think diversity is a great thing and getting points of view from anyone who challenges me is my goal, but I find the idea of sex/race/sexuality as somehow a metric for intellectual diversity a bit of a non sequitur. Not sure the idea of discrimination based on physical characteristics will ever sit right with me regardless of who it's for, I'd much rather do away with scholarships and quotas based on sex/race/sexuality and instead advocate for assistance based on socio-economic background, it would still end up helping those that are traditionally marginalized but it wouldn't do it based on an immutable characteristic.
On the note about us being less judgy about the generations that will follow us I highly doubt that will be the case. I already go about my life saying damn kids and I am 21... That shouldn't be happening already.
I think age does not equal perspective. some people gain perspective as they age, but many still lack long term perspectives or the ability to look at things and see them in the lens of what happened before. Like the hippy example, you'd think they'd get it, that when a group or generation tries to affect social change they aren't doing it out of selfishness or stupidity. yet, many have become their parents or grandparents generation. they are the stuffy old people who are trying to hold things in the past. yet almost none of them see that. age and life experience does not inherently give one wisdom and perspective. those things come from being able to think and look at their actions and situations, past and present, and evaluate them critically. most people of any age group lack that ability, and it's a tough thing to do constantly and consistently. even people who do try it often have trouble since it involves confronting one's self. no one's good at that.
I am an aging hippie who does not understand why millennials are blamed for whatever is wrong with the world. Of course millennials are different, handle things differently, even use language differently because they have grown up in a world that is fundamentally different in terms of culture, politics, finance, and technology. Something would be wrong if each succeeding generation weren't different than those who came before.
As a millennial I think the reason my generation is blamed for a lot of crap and seen as "ungrateful" is because
1-we see the mistakes of the past with greater clarity than those before us and it ain't pretty.
2-we were placed in an economic situation where we can't achieve what our parents and grandparents did as easily due to a poorer economy.
3-reasons one and two piss us off and social media allows us to express that far more vocally than anyone in the past could.
They are quick to point out our generations problems while glossing over the problems of their own and ignoring the positives we can bring and have brought.
@@Eltrio2 But your argument does NOT hold up b/c we have the BEST economy we have had in years. and yes you are RIGHT in #3 --- Millennials will always fail b/c they think life revolves around their opinion on Twitter or FB.....and it doesn't. And it never will. HARD WORK leads to quality life, not tweeting incessantly that you burned your avocado toast.
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
so true ((omg I love that song))
Yes you did literally.. wrong voice(s) YOUR LISTENING TOO. EMPHASIS ON YOURS ALONE
What we need to do is make sure that we not only stop judging the up and coming generation, but we also take that next generation aside and say "there will come a time in your life that you're going to see the generation younger than you and you may look down on them. Instead, you should try to learn from the mistakes of generations past who dismissed their successors as lazy and entitled."
Mist Sonata This is what philosophy was supposed to do, but not enough people ever do it to make a difference. Especially rich, sheltered people
Shroom1Up gr8 b8
Shroom1Up millenial propose equality, and a lot of them jump on that movement and use it as an excuse to be mean to white people, but like.... that doesn't matter. white people won't be persecuted (while they remain the majority in power) the same amount as black people have and kinda still are. There's a reason ghettos still exist, and municipal areas for towns exclude the 'black' areas where minorities are (everyone pays taxes, but the city doesn't pay to maintain the ghetto areas, which contain minorities, because they're poor, because of a bias against them at every stage)
I also think we should talk about the economic situation of millenials, a lot of industries are "being ruined" because we simply can't afford what those industries sell, baby boomers were born in a better moment in terms of the economy and usually were able to find better payed jobs than we do, also, media has made it easier to see the horrible aspects of some industries that earlier generations probably weren't aware of.
So yeah, forgive me for killing u diamond industry, but i'm broke and also you pretty much have slaves
E MB Honestly yea, things are also ridiculously more expensive. The cost of living has gone up, if I cant even afford food how am I supposed to buy a freaking diamond
laissez faire does not work when people cannot afford anything.
Amen...I have a STEM degree in engineering and make 41k a year and I cry at night because i can't even get a leg up in this economy.
And some how, Millennial still vote in majority for democrat.
Who signed the stupid Free Trade Agreement with China: Bill Clinton!
Who destroyed Glass-Steagal for good and as a result was responsible for the subprime crisis: Bill Clinton!
But still, the Millennial have not learned anything.
"God laughs at men who deplore the effects of which they cherish the causes."
UM NO, the economy today is FAR superior than what the Baby Boomers had. The Baby Boomers made money b/c they WORKED THEIR ASSES OFF and they STAYED with companies for decades and thus earned PROMOTIONS. Something the average millennial is incapable of.
PBS Idea Channel Man, you give me so much faith in the future of humanity.
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he is a good man
It makes complete sense that older generations would be upset to see "millenials" rejecting external status symbols (cars, "careers", diamond rings, home ownership, napkins, whatever) -- what's often phrased as "killing the X industry".
They invested a lot of effort and made sacrifices to attain those symbols, in the expectation that they would get respect and social status for owning them. Rejecting them as irrelevant directly attacks their self-esteem. Compare also how dudebros tend to feel attacked by people who don't value tokens of traditional masculinity, another "millenial" development.
I'd like to think that because we're the generation that grew up with the Internet and virtually everyone has friends from across the globe, it might help shape foreign policies when we start moving into government and other positions of power. It's a lot harder to justify a war or even just seeing people from another country as faceless enemies when you're friends with some of them.
+Czars Epidemic profound perspective
If mellenials ever get into politics, the baby boomers are working hard to keep younger leaders out of politics.
Millenials ruined war
octoberboiy
baby boomers are stupid confirmed.
I don't think the abuse towards Millennials is worse, so to speak. I think it's just that with social media and the internet as it is, people are just able to communicate their opinions faster and more widely than before.
I actually don't think it's enough, because not every boomer is alive nor are they able to handle a computer mouse (I'm not being bigoted - I actually trained boomers as a job and life).
I do not take the blame for emojis.
That's Gen Z's fault.
Yamikaiba123 We didn't make the emojis, we just used them to their fullest potential.
We didn't make emojis, we just use the things that are given to us (I don't use emojis myself, I honestly hate them but I'm just saying)
When millennials do it it's bad, when gen z uses emojis it's cool, naturally.
oh Mike I think you're the most millennial millennial that has ever milennialed.
the hippie thing is different. the hippies were a fraction of one percent of the american youth and weren't 'mainstreamed' until following generations. baby boomers didn't identify with the hippie movement.
KaiGonGinn Hopefully the pro censorship "alt-left" is as much a minority as hippies were and don't speak for my generation as a whole. And I do think they are just a vocal minority thankfully.
Str8 up Pwnage yes the so called "regressive left" is much smaller than it is sometimes perceived
KaiGonGinn This makes sense to me. My mom was a hippie, I am a millenial (she was older when she had me), and she doesn't identify with the "millenials ruining everything" ideology at all. In fact, there are some people she's worked with for years who are her age but have *totally* different perspectives on life because they were much more conforming while growing up.
The 60's and 70's counterculture was way larger than a fraction of 1%. But it was concentrated in the west coast/north east and big cities/college towns. The psychedelic culture was mainstreamed in the early 70s and co-opted by Madison Ave. You have no idea what you are talking about.
I would think the pervasiveness of millennial hate more of a side effect of easy access to a wider audience than in the past. We are in the information age for a reason. Hype train hate is magnitudes higher now than the past simply because of more population with ability to distribute and collect information.
Mike, I just want to say thank you. Your ideas channel into my life, and the lives of my friends.
Shouldn't the oldest millennials be like 35 at this point?
Zoomer generation is even bigger than millennial generation
the one guy saying that 80s and 90s babies arent real millennials is completely wrong, that's literally the millennial generation! Post 2000 is Gen Z, who do not get a cool name.
I was literally born on the first year of the Millennials that person who said that probably it's most likely very ageist thinking they're going to stay 21 forever
There should be a mandatory equality of opportunity, not mandatory equality of outcome.
I love how people, can't get over language transformation. So the 1st thing that you learn on linguistics, is that languages change over a course of time. This change consists of simplificatiton, and expantion. A) new ideas, inventions , actions = new words/ terms thus the language becomes more complicated. B) As we are more able to communicate in different forms , we also want to do it faster. An efficient message is short fast and easily understood by the listener. So If you are able to condense the message of a paragraph into two sentence text, why not? You save time both yours and the reciever's , even if this means to bend some spelling or grammatical rules, yet if the meaning is still the same as before than its an adaquate tool of the language which is not wrong hence correct.
Thank you.
Because you sound like an ignorant arse and it makes you seem extremely lazy if you can not even be bothered write a full sentence. That's why most people hate it. Also with so many words that have similar letters it can often cause unnecessary confusion. Using the word YOU in a general sense, Not a personal attack
i hate the label "Milennials" i just think its so stupid sounding and sadly i seem to fall in the group. also i dont think we are ruining anything,we are much more aware of social issues and realize that we can make a stand as young adults.
It's just a title. I suppose it helps to give generations a name to avoid confusion. You're not bound by your generation.
LadyRedHawk
The stigma of it kinda sucks since we're pretty used to the word "millenial" being followed by something having to do with us ruining something
That or the stigma of millennials not having a lot of common sense and doing a lot of stupid stuff. Yes I'll agree that a label doesn't define me as a person,it just hurts my pride a bit.
I'm a gen z, wonder when that name will show up in the news for ruining everything
Mike, I just subbed to this channel earlier this week and started catching up on the backlog.
Well done sir. Amazing channel and friggin' really intricate research.
I'm from Yorkshire (a region of Northern England), and we've always said while sentences as words... We can be quite difficult to understand.
Also, I was very shocked at 34 to find out I read a millennial, I assumed it was people green years younger than me... But the rational for where generations start and stop does make sense,even if it is surprising.
Mike, you may fall into the "Oregon Trail Generation". This was a great article (Mashable) about one of the micro-generations within the Millennials. They called this group the "Oregon Trail Generation" in the article, which I think is an awsome name. mashable.com/2015/05/21/oregon-trail-generation/#vMF61ZDKEkqq
To your point about a shifting generational relations... I think the millenial generation will be PARTICULARLY bad a accepting the next generations "burning the deadwood to make room for new ideas." Mainly due to the emphasis on youth culture as a commercial demographic (which began with the baby boomers).
If i am correct, you will see many millenials fall into 1 of 2 traps: 1. Insisting that they value youth culture when it really doesn't speak to them (think of the old guy who insists he loves hip hop and EDM as part of a midlife crisis. Or Kevin Smith, who seems to equate immaturity with youth) and 2. Anger at the next generation.
I think some of the comments on the prime video speak to this, esp those that refer to youth as the millenial generations "time to shine."
The comment was something like "I hope Millenials remember what its like when it is the next generations time to shine?" --- seriously unpack all that is implicit in that...... that most of what "shines" comes from youth culture? That once you pass into adulthood your time to shine has past...... sounds scary!
I know this is an old comment but would you said is 100% the truth . As a millennial we don't want to accept the fact that we're getting old and now the spotlight is on Generation Z . People are even making crap up saying that people from Generation Z born from 1995 onward . And I'm just like dude just accept the fact that we are not the it generation anymore . We have to move on the spotlight is now officially on a new generation . You can't be young and free forever that's not the life the way life works . And unfortunately I already see this we are basically going to be a bunch of older people trying to still hold on to our youth . This is exactly why we are a complete failure of a generation that will never grow up . We are basically the example of what not to be like .
when you foget that you installed a chrome extension that changes the word millenial to snake people....
Hey! I'm losing my hair and I'm a millennial (23, feels bad)
SivartUahsoj is just Joshua Travis backwards, so I think you're ok with your pronunciation.
I'm glad that his type of discussion seems to be waning out.
I wonder if our childhoods were just to good and we can't stand leaving them behind.
Why did Milennials killed Harambe? lol
What if Harambe wasn kill?
It was a necessary political move.
Eyup. "Millenial" spans a pretty wide range. Gen X has an overlap with it, depending on the source of definitions.
my brother is not even 25 and is more bald then you. I'm 27 and still have my hair, so not having hair does not matter
We are readying the world we live in for our eventual running of it.
Strong Bad is also responsible for normalizing different sexual expressions, such as first-basing it with a piece of loose-leaf.
The intensive feeling you have is because it is happening.
OK, I'm loving this 2014 NXNE presentation, but I'd love it more if it was a video... Any chance of you recording it anew? Plz?
The last generation is jealous of our kill count."
I think there's such a gap between people who grew up with internet culture and people for whom it was a new thing when they were... say, even 10 or older. I don't consider someone who doesn't know (or at least wasn't alive and conscious in a way they could have known) who Strong Bad is to be part of my generation.
A good summary at the end there!
I wanted to respond to your comment about being worried about how our generation won't 'learn' from the past, in relation to baby boomers whom didn't learn even after the free-sex movement.
We have the great tombstone of our generation always looming over us. I speak ofcourse about the internet. Nothing we say will ever be forgotten, and our kids generation will always be able to look this up and realize that we said we would understand. (HI JONAH!!!)
We are the first generation to truly know more about the world than our elders, and we will be the first generation to not believe that the next generation is ruining the world.
...at the beginning there is literally how I talk
And I would say an important thing we have to do is not to get angry at people who are having trouble adjusting to the push for equality, but help them get used to it
Didn't the final wave of hippies become the first wave of yuppies? Gen-Xers being the last?
I think that outrage the next generation by millennials will happen in the same way this sort of thing always has. This is based on the anecdotal evidence that a friend of mine who is a teenager(whatever generation that falls under now) hates new Nerf products explicitly because they are not the toy guns of his childhood, even the ones that are just reskins of the models he knows and loves. He thinks that every toy and cartoon that was after his childhood is shit. Let me remind you this is the opinion of someone still in High School not some old curmudgeon. So I think that there will always be people like this and the question isn't whether or not there will be generational outrage because there will, but whether or not we will learn to ignore it.
Gorinich Serpant What fake gun did he use as a child, nothing?
I see what you did there. To answer the question, he used Nerf guns.
yeah, same annoying thing as "music is shit now dayz"
Anyone born after 1981 are millennials, right?
Read it backwards next time, Mike. I've been featured in comment responses before, and you got it right that time.
"SivartAuhsoj" totally sounds like a real foreign name though!
Isn’t he in Crash Course?
I'm liking just for the Strongbad impersonation! 😂
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IdeaChannel Can you do a video on the expression 2deep4you, what I mean is is art that is incomprehensible to most still good art if no one understands it ?because the point of art is to deliver a message right ?
I'm not sure if Mike/Idea Channel has done it, but I remember the exact answer being done before.
sometimes its very literal, when things require thought after thought, experience and reflection to understand. "2deep4me/you" being a casual self-made insult or claim to simply not have the time or interest to delve into the subject.
art (as in a way to deliver a message) can be complex, full of meta-comments, have very heavy or negative subject matter that some people may just not feel they can tackle.
SivartAuhsoj --> JohuaTravis. I don't think you butchered anyone's name, you're good Mike ;)
It is interesting that he automatically assumed it was a non-English name, and apologised for any potential mangling before applying a seconds critical thought and realising it was just spelled backwards, though. That is what millenials *should* be blamed for, the hateful little gobblers
Denied Christmas
I realize I am SUPER late to the ballgame here, but how in the world did you not discuss the obvious fact that millennial are just plain f***ing poor?! Put more articulately, our persistent financial insecurity (resulting often from the cost of higher education and stagnant and low wages in a post-recession economy) has profoundly impacted our priorities and how we choose to spend the limited expendable income we do have. We're not so poor as to be starving, but broke enough that we have to seriously consider how to maximize the utility of of each dollar we spend. Just as diamonds are useless expensive rocks, so too the McWrap is a cheap, garbage, uninspired waste of a meal. If I'm going to spend $15 on a decent meal, I need more of an experience than the vibe of a chain restaurant that is so bland that it is representative of nowhere at all but can easily be wedged inoffensively into anywhere at all.
Is Donnie Darko the first film to depict (predict) the Millennial mindset... even though it was made by Gen-Xers?
Re: whether millennials may relate to the next generation differently. I think the issue is that we'll only ever really hear the voices in the old generations that *do* complain about the new one. There are Gen Xers and Baby Boomers who are fine with Millennials, for instance, but they don't really make lengthy thinkpieces about it because there's not really much to say on the topic of "this is fine". I think that'll be the same issue with Millennials and the next gen: there are Millennials with conservative views, as we've clearly established by now with the rise of…ahem…certain political movements…and they will definitely condemn the next generation's changing ways the way their forebears did.
Whether the proportion of conservatives in Millennials as they age will follow the same trend as previous generations, that's the more interesting question, I think. The fact that we get to see all the harsh criticism of old generation, that we're more connected, etc., may change that; or it may not. I don't know for sure.
"Toons! Games! Imma check my emaiiiilll" -Millennial rallying cry
I disagree with the point you made about the loss of privilege feeling like a loss of equality. It seems to me that the "equalization" of historically disadvantaged groups isn't just "seeming" to come at the cost of opportunities for traditionally privileged groups, it actively is denying them opportunities based on immutable characteristics.
We are seeing this happen with the BBC in the UK. So far at least two tv hosts have been bumped from headlining spots on their shows to be replaced with more "diverse" choices. Plus hiring quotas have actively prevented the promotion of qualified, hard working people who are just trying to provide for their families. I think diversity is a great thing and getting points of view from anyone who challenges me is my goal, but I find the idea of sex/race/sexuality as somehow a metric for intellectual diversity a bit of a non sequitur.
Not sure the idea of discrimination based on physical characteristics will ever sit right with me regardless of who it's for, I'd much rather do away with scholarships and quotas based on sex/race/sexuality and instead advocate for assistance based on socio-economic background, it would still end up helping those that are traditionally marginalized but it wouldn't do it based on an immutable characteristic.
0:30 I wish language worked like that - as I did understand all that was said, so it really would be faster - why is that a bad thing? No emphasis?
On the note about us being less judgy about the generations that will follow us I highly doubt that will be the case. I already go about my life saying damn kids and I am 21... That shouldn't be happening already.
What difference are? In my experience generation differences are now blurrier that ever.
you ruined the commit section by calling it the doobeledo
Doobledo is the description
biohazard724 it's a joke about he ruined it
Zack Lumbard Which one?
biohazard724 the commitment section
What's a commit section? And, while we're at it, what's a commitment section?
Solid Strongbad Mike!
I think older generations are critical of millennials because they are jealous of your youth
I think age does not equal perspective. some people gain perspective as they age, but many still lack long term perspectives or the ability to look at things and see them in the lens of what happened before. Like the hippy example, you'd think they'd get it, that when a group or generation tries to affect social change they aren't doing it out of selfishness or stupidity. yet, many have become their parents or grandparents generation. they are the stuffy old people who are trying to hold things in the past. yet almost none of them see that. age and life experience does not inherently give one wisdom and perspective. those things come from being able to think and look at their actions and situations, past and present, and evaluate them critically. most people of any age group lack that ability, and it's a tough thing to do constantly and consistently. even people who do try it often have trouble since it involves confronting one's self. no one's good at that.
I see that EFF shirt.
Nice.
Im a millenial and im losing my hair. I feel thats not an accurate eay to measure whether or not someone is a millenial
Next gen is free to be just as disillusioned as everyone else, maybe with worse vision and interpersonal skills in big stores. Have at it!
mike ruined the definition of millennial
Ya'll find out your lesson the hardest; especially if you have kids if your own. Your own ancestry DNA; not mine
For shits and giggles
Ha! Homestarrunner.
You are very young!
Hello comment section. Nice to be early.
Art is dead. Long live dada.
ive pretty much the same hair (much deeper widows peek tho) and I'm just 23. you look good though, I don't. sad face.
Embrace perpetual ruination for everything always 2k16
not helpful
28th?
nick frank 6th
Still not convinced you're a millennial. And rumor has it you are 43.
cool
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Matthew Pewpew Correct!
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Inglonias True statement!
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· 0xFFF1 You're also correct!
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Tyrion Lannister That you are.
Second... :(