Did Nehru really want Patel out of his first cabinet: fateful weeks in 1947, fact & fiction
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- Опубликовано: 12 фев 2020
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In Narayani Basu's latest book on V.P. Menon - Sardar Patel's close ally and senior bureaucrat - it has been claimed that Nehru did not include Patel in his first cabinet. This has stirred the old Nehru versus Patel debate that engages even External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar & historian Ramachandra Guha. Shekhar Gupta sifts fact from fiction in episode 390 of ThePrint's Cut The Clutter.
*Correction at 09:46- The picture shown is VK Krishna Menon. It should should be VP Menon.
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- Nehru never excluded Patel from cabinet list. Louis Mountbatten and V.P. Menon got it wrong -
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You call this good Journalism????? I call it misinformation.
Thank you for clinically busting this myth of Nehru leaving out Patel and saying in clear terms no such thing happened!
All I gotta say is, I wouldn't mind giving a year of my life to Shekhar Gupta so he can continue to amass and distribute political gyaan about India so insightfully. And I'm not even Indian.
I am surprised that while talking of Congress party, the video shows the image of Congress(I) and hand symbol. Both did not exist at that time. Also, the more disturbing thing is that by doing this you are attaching the founding fathers of India with today's Congress, grossly incorrect again
Congress at that time was not just a political party. Almost everybody baring a few hardcore socialists who wanted to participate in India's freedom struggle in a non violent way wanted to be a part of Congress. It was the voice of people at that time. It was not just a political party but an instrument of Indians against the British.
@YourBallIsInMyFist ICanSqueezeOutMoreThanFiftyCents What's wrong with dating white girls? Virgin teens should stop obsessing over his sex life.
Frankly, until Narasimha Rao's leadership of the party, it was Congres(I), where "I" signified Indira! The original Congress died a miserable death by splitting into many factions, Thanks to Mrs.Gandhi's over-ambition. Indira's faction took many forms before becoming Congress(I) in 1980. It was rechristened as INC by Narasimha Rao in 1993.
SG has always been part of Sonia's coterie and we can not simply expect him to stick to facts.
@Ramesha Krsiah what the fuck was that dumbuss.......
@Ramesha Krsiah Have you read Mahabharata? It is filled with sex, alcohol, wars and promiscuity. Go and give your fake purinatical lectures on Indian and Hindu culture to someone who is brought up in RSS sakha. Also drinking alcohol is not against Hindu culture. Go and search about "soma rasa" a hallucinating drink which helped rishis in writing vedas and they have mentioned it in your Vedas. And don't even get me started on Kamasutra and hundreds of Indian temples with sexual imageries. Stop peddling fake news. What you are touting as Hindu culture is wrong on every level.
6:15 SG - you say you are not judging BJP and RSS’ reading of history
7:10 BJPs reading of history is a belief in folklore.
How do you reconcile the two statements?
Try hard as you might to remain neutral, your
Anti-BJP views slip thru.
@@pragyanshsingh6093 they never seen such government which deliver projects in time if not atleast little bit later so they r not able to process it
Reading these comments are more interesting. We have become so blind that even facts don't matter if you are inclined to ideology.
there is a claim and a counter how come what u belive becomes a fact and other becomes idology , strange nai
Uncontested. Nehru dropped Sardar Patel from cabinet and all party posts before Sardar died. Facts have nothing to do with ideology.
My video on RUclips on the blundering Nehru ruclips.net/video/mS86JWlo_eo/видео.html
Exactly in your blind faith against non lutyens you are not looking into facts. Please revisit the video. Shekhar is just trying to impose which Mountbatten at 80's might be misjudging
@@dhirajdalvi5078 There is literally written letters between sardar and nehru wtf
Lol did you read the book by eam jaishankar ,maybe you can judge both sides.
Often we think that either it is black or it is white. We should remember that sometimes people cannot be demarcated on such narrow binaries. People at different times and situations have different shades. Maybe we should also consider grey as a shade and then form opinions.
Not true from an idealogical sense.
Then there are historical facts.
ruclips.net/video/mS86JWlo_eo/видео.html
@@vinsin328 I don't think any of these people were bound by a certain ideology. They all very pretty flexible as far as ideology is concerned.
Dear problem is we have lots of Grey that has been presented as White not black by our intellectual historians, who studied Bharat in London 😳what a tragedy 😭
People act like all people in history were supposed to be Ram like. But isn't Krishna a better example of reality?
Why no debate about Shashtri Vs Indira ?
because it's a debate, you can have it with anyone.
She was accidental prime minister and her ministry was not powerful in shastri government
After shastri there were rift in congress
Modi will never touch these two figures As he knows if he criticize Indira it will back fire Gupta ji also mentioned in one of the CTC
They had a good relation
If you call a contrarian view of history as folklore, the same can be said about your preferred version of 'history' too.
somebody said it, dear do read this article for different view on Nehru m.hindustantimes.com/chandigarh/nehru-s-nabha-jail-ordeal-lost-in-past/story-EBrTBPS8u8UPMHndqThAjP.html
Excellent edition of CTC.
But there is a small discrepancy in video. At 9:47 you talk about V.P.Menon but visually show picture Krishna Menon.
Looks like your editing team got confused which Menon you were talking about.
Many darbaris in power circuits. Promotion of Krishna Menon has been done willingly
Yes , bad here.
When Mountbatten was deciding the composition of the cabinet, how can you say India was an independent country. This freedom was a farce.
See it is very natural. When you win freedom by sacrifice , by fighting you know it's worth. Nehru & Jinnah both rich & British collaborator got the power without much effort . Gandhi a mass leader became the villain of the partition . The nationalist finally had enough of his nonsense & finished his non stop tamasha . The British hated him , the Conhress used him & threw him to the dustbin . Pakistan & India two fledgling states both lead by two leaders most suitable for compromise .So began the journey , which faltered in every step it took . India a coward state and insulted from the beginning by Pakistan, China the west . Pakistan a frontline proxi state of the west now china to keep India bleeding .
We made Mount Batten to rule us (even after independence until Gandhi passed away.)proved that Nehru was helpless.
jinnah - "suffered in jail" - new revelation by shekhar ji
Shubham Jain 😅
he was initially a moderate but with time got disenchanted with what he was doing. he gave 50 years of his life for freedom struggle pr last m goo kha liya.
May be 5 star hotel wala jail
Look at all the adjectives Shekhar uses for historians who support his narrative- very very good the best finest.
That is OK.
Guha 😛😛😛😛is the finest dynasty Pidi.
Forgot another - brilliant.
my thoughts exactly! All labeled as best this that. And even if this one fact might be right why create a narration that Nehru love Patel..He clearly didnt and many facts show that.
Viewing from Bangladesh, your views are most constructive, learned many things about subcontinent from your series, thanks
Listen to views from others too. SG is a big liar & distorts every thing.
@@Pork393 Any of his articles or videos you can point to that would prove your point?
I am just amazed by the length to which Shekhar Gupta has gone using all the resources of print to make us believe only those archives which support his point of view and plainly dismisses the other archives which support other point of view. Unbiased journalism??
Is there unbiased journalism ever?? Never. He is not wrong.
Unbiased journalism = supporting BJP narrative, according to you
Prove him wrong
@@theAraAra Unbiased journalism = not sympathizing Sharjeel imam
There are many Dalals in many forms.
This is as good as it gets. Thanks SG ji and your team for the research and thoughtfulness. And many thanks for de cluttering but not disrespecting your audience’s intelligence by dumbing it.
Our next generations will learn from Mr. Gupta's CutTheClutter.
The fact of the matter is history is written by winners. Who were the winners in these 70 years we all know. It doesn’t matter if Jaishankar or Guha is right, the truth does lie somewhere in between. I for one don’t believe Nehru was innocent.. what he did I am sure he did for his chair and his daughter, but he was a decent prime minister till he screwed up on China and Kashmir. But I do believe he was prejudiced against Patel and Bose. He was selfish and entitled. Unfortunately that’s his legacy that’s blatantly visible in his descendants.
Very well said. It is nearly impossible for common people like us to determine who is right since each side either shows or suppresses facts based on their convenience. If we look back at the decisions taken by Nehru and the way things turned out for his family and India as a society, he definitely is not a innocent person. He can at best be judged as a power hungry, manipulative and incapable leader whose main objective was to gain power and ensure the same remained with his family. One can always argue that hind sight is 20/20 but I would consider one as a good leader who has 20/20 vision to start with.
Gupta ji is typical Nehruvian with true Nehru qualities. Since 2019 election results he realized Modi bashing is not going to work so he changed his style now to push agenda’s in the garb of being neutral. He mentions about what our future generations will be able to trace about Vajpayee-Advani or Modi-Amit shah smartly pushing the idea that they are not educated, but no mention of Manmohan-Sonia, Sonia-PV Narasimharao. How and why after so many defeats Congress party still clings on to the Gandhi family. Amazing!!
Regarding jail term, can the jail condition of Nehru/Gandhi etc be compared to jail conditions of the revolutionaries who were brutally tortured and lived in inhuman condition?
21:21.... 'THEY were very literate'...
Bit below the belt Guptaji.
Hahaha
But that's a fact! Patel and Nehur and Gandhi. All were very very well read and were foreign graduates in law. In comparison to anybody in power today, they were atleast far beyond educated.
@@gaffemind3440 absolutely true my friend! No doubt about what you said. Education making a differece or not is a debate. But who is more educated or less educated is a fact. And that's what was just quoted in the video. He did not say who was better, he just quoted a fac
@@sakshamjain6806
I cannot wake up a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Sweet dreams.
Current pm also has degree in entire political science😂
Very nice analysis sir.. 100% facts based... No place for bias.. 🙏🙏
I'll never keep Jinnah in the same level of Gandhi, Nehru, Patel, Bose and the other great leaders of India's freedom struggle. Jinnah is way below than all of them. It's an insult to the greats like Gandhi, Nehru, Patel and Bose if we hyphenate them with Jinnah.
Sagnik Ghosh ....he founded a nation.....v really have no choice but to include him.....our likes and dislikes don’t really have a role in it......
@@krishsandy7020 a nation which contradicts the idea of india
Thankyou Shekhar...really appreciate the effort behind de cluttering such complex topics. Editing team, what’s the rush to put music and graphics even before he has finished speaking?
This is one of the most beautiful episodes of CTC. This is the essence of this show - cutting the clutter. And a lot of clutter I believe has been cut within 28mins.
The research that you guys put in to come up with this quality of content in a matter of 24hrs, is incredible. More power to this kind of journalism. Especially given the times we live in.
Only reason we have clutter is because our history has been written by fraudulent historians who knew people will seek to explore later. As heroes the portrayed in history are turning to be the Zeros. 😉
Great work..The Print...
Thank you Shekhar sir for enlightening us about this period in our important history. I commend you and your team for all the research and making these topical and relevant videos! Excellent
9:13 - SG in touch with meme culture (refers to the "aap chronology samajhiye" meme)
That's the beauty of history sir. It is open for interpretation. What amounts to heresy during reconstruction of history is when facts are hidden or twisted or when personalities are treated as sacrosanct monuments not to be questioned, all to suit someone's idea of truth.
History is a chronology of events and facts. How is there room for "interpretation" or even "reconstruction" unless missing links exist?
fascinating to learn the relationship bw Patel and Nehru. Its called an adult relationship which no leader today understands.
Their integrity, commitment, and vision for the country despite stark differences is nowhere to be found today. Worrying!
9:48 wrong Menon shown
Looks like fake news and mis information is not that young. 😅
One interesting anecdote that comes out of this (unneeded) controversy- Mountbatten & the British Deep State were also commenting on the Constitution of the Cabinet of 'Independent India'.
Highly grateful to you for presenting this fabulous video.
Shekhar Sir no one provides the kind of mental stimulation and intellectual thrill but you with your analysis and in-depth analysis .
Maybe J.L. Nehru wrote letter to Sardar V.B. Patel after to include Sardar in the cabinet by Mountbatten ?
Dear Shekhar you are right about what you mention . But you still miss the point , initially Nehru omitted Patel's name. Later he added his name on Mountbatten's persuasion. Read the book " Witness to an Era by Frank Moraes "
He literally debunked the whole thing. Don’t people watch the video before commenting?
Question: So it is speculated "Patel wasn't healthy to become PM". But he was just fit enough to become Home Minister and much more capable of uniting the country. How does that make sense?
10:57 Does "Came down heavily" means "to support"? According to dictionary, "came down heavily" means "to criticize or punish".
Oh i teared up on this cut the clutter...Shekharji thanks so much...we live in times where facts make you emotional...so much of lies around... Cut the clutter should get Magsayaay award....
Like the way you collected the stuff, as it hard to explain such complex things
One of the best #cuttheclutters ever
where can I access thearchival material quoted by you as also Jaram RameshNarayanai Basu
Such great men of that era!
Although accusations on Nehruji has been cleared, we see no Nehru's competence in Rahul Gandhi and thus no support for him. :)
Pappu pass nahi hoga
2:46 , thats not the jhanda of Inc during Independence
yeah, bad editing.
Heard they had a Flag with a Cow in it. 😀😀
Exactly/ I thought the same
The fact remains that Nehru was not elected by the Congress party or the Constitutent Assembly. Like most prime ministers in Indian history after 1947, they were imposed by outside forces, each with its own agenda. it is a fact that all the regional Congress committees, who knew a lot better about the abilities and qualifications of various actors in 1946, better than us in 2020, not even one voted for Nehru. Nehru was imposed upon a new country by Gandhi, who in an earlier episode resigned from the Congress, because Bose was elected against his wishes. That is the truth of the Gandhi version of democracy, which says "do as i tell you" , not "think for yourself". Both Shastri and Indira were imposed by a group of five, called the Syndicate, who had their own agenda. Was Rajiv or Sonia elected by the party? If anyone disagreed, like the way Sharad Pawar found out, you will be thrown out of the party, into the wilderness. The way tickets are distributed, compare it by the way, how USA works. Which is why so many indians/hindus have been able to get elected. India is not and has never been a functional democracy. It is a manipulated oligarchy. Sonia owns Congress, the yadav family owns SP, Mayawati owns BSP, Mamata owns TC, Jayalalitha owned AIADMK etc etc. Do you still call our country a democracy.?
Modi owns BJP ? Go on. Bro that is how all the large functioning democracies work, with an influential leader. Just look at the power Modi holds today.
Sir please enable autogenerated subtitles option before uploading your future videos. It will be very helpful to understand you. Because I'm learning English by listening you. You are doing very well keep doing this. Please remember autogenerated subtitles option
'they were very literate'
😂 sly on current dispensation?
Having a clause in the constitution that an electorate need not have a formal educational degree has been the bane of the cabinet. If you want to see a congregation of idiots, that's where you need to go.
M.A in entire political science.
Even has a B.A.
What else should he get?
@@anbee8127 being literate and educated are very different things. literate just means to be able to read and write.
we need literate leaders but formal educate does not qualify them to know the problems of the communities they belong to, be able to lead people and exercise the power and responsibilities that come with the job in an honest and corruption-free manner.
Don't know why people think that we don't have enough educated people in the administration.
www.indiatoday.in/diu/story/ministers-of-modi-sarkar-2-0-score-high-on-education-1539575-2019-05-31
You were saying?
@@Alleur what was the degree of Nehru and Indira. By the way visit Dr jaysankar Twitter a/c to get some knowledge on the issue
Where can one get these letters?
Sir with due Respect , we did understand the facts and dates but "Action speaks louder than word". Mr MB can not be more clearer than this when he said this. The claim that being made by person like Mr Guha that Nehru allow dissent is just fell flat. He did not include Mr Patel because he is not his loyalist.
Umm did you even watch the video? Also, answer me this. If Nehru did not allow any kind of dissent in his party, then how did the Congress manage landslide victories for the first 3 general elections during his tenure? Your assumption that the Congress of that time was a single-minded party being led by an authoritarian Nehru simply falls flat if we look at how people from such diverse backgrounds, the poor, the rich, the socialists, the capitalists, hindus, sikhs, christians, muslims etc all voted for one party, the INC
Is that true 13 member from 14member congress committee suggested patel name for pm post and Gandhi pushed Neharu name
Yes true...
No that’s a lie. That election was for the post of Congress president and not the Prime Minister. Dwarka Prasad Mishra who was a member of committee said that if the election was for prime minister, they would have voted for Nehru.
Yes Patel was chosen, but sadly for India Gandhi backed Nehru and rest we ought to decipher on why Patel was happy working with same man who kept him out of PM post.
@@rish517 it is a lie...... President only always become the PM too especially in congress..... Then why RaGa was made President of Congress party? Nehru was not the preferred candidate for PM of India.... It was Sardar Patel....
@@krishnakumarbs4800 Nope. It wasn't the case. JB Kripalani was INC president when Nehru was elected as PM, Kamaraj was INC president when LB Shastri and Indira Gandhi were elected as PM, Sonia Gandhi was INC president when Manmohan Singh was elected as PM. Party president is not the requirement to become PM, otherwise, JB Kripalani, K. Kamaraj, Jayaprakash Narayan, Advani, Sonia Gandhi, and Amit Shah would've been our PM instead of Nehru, LB Shastri and Indira Gandhi, Morarji Desai, Vajpayee, Manmohan Singh, and Modi as our PMs.
If you know some basic 8th-grade civics, at least you should've knowledge that PM is elected by Members of the Parliament (MPs) not some random 15 member committee which literally has no power. India had general election in 1946 to elect interim government and Nehru was the PM since 1946.
INC president and Congress working committe (CWC) are always been elected by a "thousand member" AICC since 1885 and up till now. PCC didn't exist till 1937 and they literally have no power at any decision making.
Did you sleep through your civis because your facts are filled with nothing but What's App memes.
V.p.menon daughter book too quotes mountbatten and menon
Sir please also declutter the relationship between Bose vs Gandhi/Nehru/Patel...and why did Bose resign after becoming Congress president for the 2nd time?
Bose was talking about weapon fight and Congress ideology was non-violence
Fascinating to hear you de clutter with facts and logic. Learning about politics past and present. Thank you.
I can watch over this video for like 5 times. What a de-clutter man! Thanks SG
It's unfortunate that for the independence of India, The sacrifices of Abul kalam Azad ignored one who was the youngest congress president and two-time president of congress and sacrificed 1/3 life in jail
We are lucky to have someone like you in this era of post truth to correct our facts, Don't worry about our Grandchildren will will keep these videos in Archive. Future generations will take inspiration from your work.
Sir you have shown picture of krishna menon when you referenced VP menon at one instance in this video
Fifth comment. First time I'm so early.
Thank you for the like. Could we trust the veracity of formal interactions like letters, where real feelings might not be shown like today.
It has to be a given that everyone at that pivotal moment in India that is Bharat's history tried to do their best by their own lights. Some of Nehruji's decision India (and other countries) benefited from, and some pivotal decisions India is still paying for. It is best to learn the lessons from history, fix what needs to be fixed and move on. Having said that, one thing that stuck me as curious, and this is a question for historians, is about Sardar Patel's letter to Pandit Nehru. It indicates to me an awareness of the Nehru-Mountbatten conversation. Again, without ascribing motives, was that the style in which Sardar Patel normally wrote?
One of your best ones.
A day's break and SG is back with golden goose's EGG.As usual very well written episode.Much more interesting than any movies I have seen lately. It was worth the wait. Much respect from Haryanvi to the other.
PS : I am pretty sure if convo of Modiji and Amitji were to be archived we will find BJP's largest funding come from one or two Gujaratis.
Well presented declutter show sir on recent topic,I am already into the Mr.jairam's book on Mr.Menon .Really interesting to go thru history from their eyes& mind.Regards
Brilliantly done. Thanks
Thanks for such an illuminating video.
What about the INC preference for Sardar Patel as first PM? It is said that Nehru persuaded Gandhi that he was a better choice than Patel and then Gandhi over ruled the INC and pushed through Nehru?
Sardar Patel at the time of independence itself was in extremely poor health and passed away in December 1950 after having been extremely I'll , so how would Mountbatten's preference for younger ministers include Patel. This is a unnecessary and pointless controversy which suits the BJP strategy of villifying Nehru to obscure the fact that their leaders never participated in the freedom struggle and some "heroes" even promised servility to the British as well as the extreme notoriety and dubious antecedents of their present leadership.
There was no freedom struggle
Superb research!!! Mr. Shekar you mentioned about the elected govt. before Independence, can you also do a CTC on this govt? How it functioned, what we're it's powers, who were the key members, etc.,?
By Jail term you forget to mention Veer Savarkar
On behalf of SG, I apologise. Sorry :)
do read this article too m.hindustantimes.com/chandigarh/nehru-s-nabha-jail-ordeal-lost-in-past/story-EBrTBPS8u8UPMHndqThAjP.html
Same coward who wrote a letter praising the British and the Queen so that he can get out?
His seven weepy letters swearing allegiance to the British is well documented. Never call him Veer Only Bhagat Singh is Veer.
@@thomasmoraes9877 if he made alliegance to the British then why was he in jail ? Why not he was freed ? And why was he involved in nation wide protests against British ?
How cleanly he alter the history
It's a art
@Earth Evolution:
So, pls tell us unaltered history. Willing to hear. If possible, also pls cite a few documents/ letters/ archives.. thanks
@Akarsh Sharma can't u see he was preparing us to gulp the wrong history by word like good, very good, best, brilliant historian. He was prepared us so we believe what he was saying is true
Every one knows their was differences b/w nehru and patel but he's proving like they were having a affair
It's like my childhood when mom give me medicine she always have a spoon sugar near by. A delusion like medicine not bitter my throat
These khan market gang r educated and brilliant people know how to manipulate and fool the masses
“If Gandhi had not intervened, Patel would have been the first de facto Premier of India, in 1946-7…. The Sardar was ‘robbed of the prize’ and it rankled deeply.”
This was from a Print article only. Perhaps you forgot to mention this point deliberately theprint.in/opinion/jawaharlal-nehrus-election-as-indias-first-prime-minister-wasnt-unanimous/34519/
One of the more cluttered cut-the-clutter episodes. I think the intent was right, to give perspective to Nehru-Patel divide but I think it can be better. Firstly, using hearsay (he said -she said) is a big mistake. Just because something someone said is in an archive does not make it a fact. Similarly if someone's granddaughter says she heard her grandfather utter something does not make it right either. The only items that hold water would be the letters Nehru and Patel themselves wrote. You showed Patel's letter where Patel says he respects Nehru but no evidence for the other way around. No letter to say Nehru respects Patel. Lack of evidence does not prove that Nehru did not respect Patel. But the legs on which this episode was conceived were perhaps missing. I would instead go by Nehru and Patel's actions rather than hearsay and essays by other people. We have too many so called historians who sell their own opinion as history in this country.
So patel was in the list or not, still confused😑
@@manisha3971 He was one of the people actively making the list and yes he was also in the list as Nehru wrote a letter to him formally inviting him and calling him the strongest pillar of cabinet.
As usual brilliant Shekar ji
❤ i love this person Shekarji who walked on foot to just get the news for ourselves in 1980's
Happy to see the dedicated man of no boundaries in journalism... it's information for ALL our children
Journlist Par Excellence since 1980's
Oh no... That A51 ad... Spoiled my day
Pleases put all documents in chronological order and try to understand the spirit of the language. It is possible that such letters are written to make up a disagreement ?
Haha, if a direct personal attack by Ram Guha on the Foreign Minister goading him into one of his petty political/ideological battles qualifies as "just a friendly fistfight", I am not sure what an aggressive fistfight would be in your opinion! The dignity and finesse with which the Foreign Minister replied in his classic style without stooping as low or getting personal just multiplied my respect for him manifold!
Also, an important point to consider is that since Nehru knew he is under the public scanner so much, he would obviously write letters calling Patel the strongest pillar of the Cabinet (formal as they were, as he himself states) or publicly appear to be amicable and cordial to Patel so as to keep up his clean image in the public eye. He was not under any compulsion to do the same while making recommendations regarding the Cabinet to Mountbatten! Especially since he could then blame Patel's ouster by him as something Mountbatten had suggested to him in the 37th point of the archived article you shared - that the Cabinet needed fresh talent for Congress to survive beyond a year.
Sad some people still not mature enough to understand difference of opinion. One of the big reason why we are such a vibrant democracy is that same difference of opinion among the builders of modern india whether Gandhi, Nehru, Patel, Ambedkar, Bose, Bhagat singh Etc.
And what was the point? Who was listening? Nehru did whatever he wanted and never cared about others.
Please make a video on the equation between Advani and vajpayee ji
6 Lenskart ads in between. What the f !
@21.22, Please stop teasing Modiji by saying Nehru and Patel were very literate.
Patel passed 10th standard at the age of 22 but all he did is to unite 584 princely state and form a united india.
Nehru was such a scholar that he went to UN for referundum on Kashmir which we suffer till date and called hindi chini bhai bhai eventually being taught a lesson by the Chinese in 1962.
Librandus are always librandus no matter how much educated!
@@abhi565b Your usage of Librandu which is vulgar combination of Liberalism + Gandu (Sadakchaap Language) shows education hasn't added much to your character as well (Like Nehru as per your claims)
I can see a lot of R$$ bull-shit here.
Hemanshu Bangera then have some 😂
@@srinivasReddy-xw3rv Here comes another Brahmin 😅😂😂
It is a well known fact Nehru vs Patel. It was more of Nehru vs Patel rather than Patel vs Nehru. Patel was not much for power. He was more interested in a United and Democratic India while Nehru was keen on power. For Nehru Prime Minister's seat was very attractive. Some analysts or politicians say he fought for the country and was in jail for quite a number of years. He did his duty as a citizen towards the country. It is nothing great he has done. No one asked him to go to jail for the country. He wanted to serve his country he did it.
Honest people only write autobiography. Shady people don’t.
Good effort to make the present political men about modern history of india 🇮🇳
The issues concerning Nehru go far beyond Patel-Nehru relationship. Fundamental question is whether Nehru stood for India at all? Substantial portion of his decisions until the ignominous defeat at the hands of China in 1962 lend credence to this doubt. Recently, I read Air Vice Marshal Arjun Subramaniam's book "India's Wars", a military history of wars fought by India between 1947 to 1971. This soldier-scholar records that in 1947, when Gen Rob Lockhart (A british general who served in Indian army's initial years) took to Nehru the intelligence that Pakistanis are building up irregulars in the border to attack Kashmir, he screamed that India is a country of Ahimsa, it does not need army, scrap the army, we can manage with the police force! I firmly hld the belief that Nehru was the founder member of Tukde Tukde gang.
He was an idealist that is all it is. Don't use such insulting words for the man who was a part of building this nation
I m happy that you take the name of subhash babu ...✊..
I really don't know why such a great deal is being made out of this ... Sardar Patel was ultimately part of the Cabinet and we all should be extremely thankful for that ..
Simply Hats 🎩 off the genius Shekar Gupta 👌👍👏👏👏👏👏👏
It's not about first cabinet , it talks about new cabinet .
Brilliant brilliant... Thank you
What brillant communist saving his face and try to save his comrade.
All proof shown were of later stages when cabinet was elected what about when initial process were started for cabinet.
U just check who left cabinet after formation.
It is very much like title CHACHA.
Communist will never make any video on Chinese truth of corona( whole world knows more than 25000 died, 40 laks infected)
Taiwan has some guts
To 21.00 to 22.00
Ask google for archives..
Chhodo kal ki baatein, kal ki baat purani...
When we will stop fighting between Nehru and Patel? Both are history now. Why we can't think how we can be super power which is the vision of political forefathers including both Patel and Nehru
Because Nehru passed on his business to his offspring.
@@subaaaan Same Kapoor's did ,tata,birla ambani did , doctors, engineers, businessmen did, it's everywhere in each field. The thing is that u can't change history. U have to think how can we more intelligent to learn from mistakes and find different ways to improve.
@@architselect5269 india is not a property or a legacy of anyone to pass on to its ancestors.
To become superpower you need to have J&K and Tibet, so how are you going to get it back? Nehru never wanted India to be even regional power.
I am confused. Both Nehru and Patel had completely different idea about India.
@@architselect5269 India is not a private property of a single person but a nation state. You IQ is too low. Can you proof Indian is a private property?
This video is gold!
Sir Patel was recommended as PM CANDIDATE BY 12 out of 13 congress committees
My understanding is that each one is taking selected pages from history and making an intreptation..which results in an opinion & a publication. However many books may be written.. history cannot be rewritten.
finally ctc arrived after 23 search. sir please upload video daily 🙏🙏.2 day gap is like year long
Same pinch
Then, What Cabinet list V P Menon saw and ran to mountbatten which he saw as you mentioned in first week of august ..........did it include home minister post?
Thank you fr this sir..hope Better sense prevails and people STop maligning a great leaders work and sacrifice
बहुत ही सुंदर जानकारी दी है आपने।
I really like The print's unbiased take on the political history of India. I am requesting for a similar coverage on MK Gandhi. Because there are alot of controversies related to him as well and alot of stories are being circulated on various social media platforms based on half baked truth.
It's a documented fact that Nehru systematically removed all opposition to him, even including his son in law Feroze Gandhi
yep, he was a politician and wanted to rule India unopposed as a dictator till his death and he did that.
'documented fact' - Documented by whom? by RSS? or by the shoe polisher savarkar?