HD Video: Stunt Kite, a Kite that you can control and maneuver completely

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Комментарии • 151

  • @TheKiteConnection
    @TheKiteConnection 12 лет назад +2

    Normally they do not, but they know it was me and it is part of my permit that I am allowed to "perform" for the crowd. People love it, it brings them to the Pier, and it's "different".
    Dave

  • @feralferret
    @feralferret 11 лет назад +1

    The one in the video is a Revolution 1.5 SLE.
    Bought one several months ago and the fun factor, once you get the gist of it, is absolutely off the scale.

  • @daves3919
    @daves3919 9 лет назад +14

    Hey Gang,
    Just to answer some of the questions that have been asked. First, that is actually a VERY OLD model, a 1.5M, the M stood for Mylar. If you look closely, it has a Mylar panel. Since the video was shot, we had SO MANY requests for that color, we had Revolution make it as an exclusive color for The Kite Connection. The bridle is the same bridle material that has always been used, just a different color, they varied the colors based on availability. It is a Spectra Cored Dacron. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. What's funny is that if you also look closely, the sail is separated from the leading edge in about 5 places, but it stills flies great. I finally retired it about 6 months ago and it's now in my garage. I'm honored that this footage has more views than any Rev footage on youtube! Thank you all very much. If you are ever in Huntington Beach, please stop by, I'll be happy to give you a free lesson!
    Best,
    Dave
    The Kite Connection

    • @TheKiteConnection
      @TheKiteConnection 9 лет назад +1

      I stand corrected by Mr. Barresi, I think it has the most views for OUTDOOR footage on youtube. Oops.

    • @paulcannefax2885
      @paulcannefax2885 9 лет назад

      Dave Shenkman I'm trying to find some one who makes Catherine Wheel's Cutting Edge made my last one And I can't find Jim or Monica Barber of Ocean Shores, Wa.

    • @georgepurdy6493
      @georgepurdy6493 9 лет назад

      Dave Shenkman I hope it's hanging from the ceiling swinging in a breeze and not in it's case all shut up!

    • @TheKiteConnection
      @TheKiteConnection 9 лет назад +1

      George Purdy It's folded neatly and sitting on a shelf. May auction it off at a Kite Party one day, but probably keep it.

    • @georgepurdy6493
      @georgepurdy6493 9 лет назад

      ottyflyer1
      My SLE is also but I'll be sewing it this evening. It's an easy zig zag stitch. Use masking tape to hold the edges together and then sew over the tape and just tear the tape away, vent panel is attached to the leading edge almost like it came form the manufactures dock! My old sewing machine can handle this job easily!

  • @f1948s
    @f1948s 8 лет назад +5

    Awesome kite. The pilot is doing an excellent job of flying this thing. After I learn on a basic stunt kite I would definitely like to get one of these.

  • @patricksmith4671
    @patricksmith4671 9 лет назад +8

    If you gave it eyes it would add a lot of impact.

    • @atila540
      @atila540 8 лет назад

      yes its true , evil eyes.

  • @landonkohtz337
    @landonkohtz337 9 лет назад +3

    Absolute great fun to play with people. What a good show for Revolution kites.

  • @jasonwheeler2011
    @jasonwheeler2011 8 лет назад +1

    I LOVE watching this video over and over!! Great control Dave!!!

    • @daves3919
      @daves3919 11 месяцев назад

      Thanks bro!

  • @daveshenkman1088
    @daveshenkman1088 10 лет назад

    Awesome! Thanks for looking up the video. Glad it has received so much publicity! So, how do we get it to go viral now!!!
    Dave
    The Kite Connection

  • @TheTruthRocks
    @TheTruthRocks 11 лет назад

    The original Rev I and Rev II (three sticks) had a full-length mesh vent just behind the leading edge spar. But the modern Revs use a nylon fiber-reinforced clear panel material that's not a vent. It looks like a vent, but it's not.

  • @stephenblaney593
    @stephenblaney593 3 года назад

    That’s the funniest think I’ve seen in ages. AMAZING WELL DONE

    • @daves3919
      @daves3919 11 месяцев назад

      Thank you!

  • @ElyMcfly
    @ElyMcfly 12 лет назад

    Nice flying...I fly my Rev's pretty well, but not quite ready to "attack" the crowd just yet even tho I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night...Good job!

  • @atila540
    @atila540 8 лет назад +1

    Gorgeous.💜 i would love to learn how to fly one. I would love mines with tales.

  • @subversion6066
    @subversion6066 7 лет назад +2

    I've been flying 2 line stunt kites for many years and this Christmas I got my first quad line kite! Can't wait to get to a beach soon. I also got a 2 line 10 foot airfoil parachute kite with a bar...lifted me off the ground!

  • @Dtag1971
    @Dtag1971 2 года назад

    Pilot..... = God Mode

  • @vf12497439
    @vf12497439 11 лет назад

    Maybe my next kite will be a revolution? I've started quite a collection of kites from delta two line stunt kites up to power sport models. My favorite is my thunder foil 2.5 but those revolutions look fun!!!!

  • @sganassaboys
    @sganassaboys 12 лет назад

    very impressive the freeze-figure that you can do ....

  • @Wrongrealities
    @Wrongrealities 13 лет назад +1

    Great video of the Rev.
    I don't really like Rev kites or videos, but this is very entertaining and the kite looks great also.

  • @l3MTA3l
    @l3MTA3l 10 лет назад

    That's freakin Awesome,,That kite has a personality :)

  • @radeksima2608
    @radeksima2608 7 лет назад

    How...? I have an acrobatic delta, and I can't to imagine how to make this insanity with it. Thumbs up!

  • @wanner364
    @wanner364 13 лет назад

    quality control!! amazing!

  • @feralferret
    @feralferret 11 лет назад

    No more than a regular stunt kite. However Revolution also make much larger versions called Blast and PowerBlast that DO pull.

  • @KevDesign32D
    @KevDesign32D 5 лет назад

    the kite that move like a human is really something!*~

  • @leanddrin1
    @leanddrin1 12 лет назад

    Beautiful

  • @feralferret
    @feralferret 11 лет назад

    If you want to break into it on a budget, try second hand on eBay and the like. They normally go for $150 or £100, and they don't lose their value further.

  • @phrlx
    @phrlx 10 лет назад +1

    best quad line kite IN WHOLE TUBE!!!! id LOVE THAT MOVIE ! u should put any cool music as backgrond I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @whirly8581
      @whirly8581 6 лет назад

      phirlexie Sound Wave what's the name of the Kite? So I can get one

  • @Alumx
    @Alumx 9 лет назад +8

    Imagine doing this shit at night lol

    • @porchfyre612
      @porchfyre612 9 лет назад

      xato909 Yeah, if it were glow in the dark that would be cool!

    • @jasonwheeler2011
      @jasonwheeler2011 8 лет назад

      +xato909 We do fly at night and it's fun!! Bright little LED's and you're set!

  • @MuffinBleach
    @MuffinBleach 11 лет назад

    For the sport stunt kites how do you stop the kite or lower it down cuz after lift off its always rly high up. If I losen the string it just falls down cuz no drag on the kite

  • @4u2btrue
    @4u2btrue 11 лет назад

    I just bought one today.. with a 6 ft span, and will get the big one when Ilearn the moves...Some are available at $120.

  • @outandabout100
    @outandabout100 7 лет назад +1

    very nice and so skilled

  • @daveshenkman1088
    @daveshenkman1088 11 лет назад

    Thank you. It is fun to do.
    Dave

  • @vovanikotin
    @vovanikotin 13 лет назад

    funniest RevKite video. great!

  • @garymaxfield1722
    @garymaxfield1722 7 лет назад

    This looks like fun

  • @PleasureAfterWorkKiteVideos
    @PleasureAfterWorkKiteVideos 12 лет назад

    love it !

  • @KindVapour
    @KindVapour 12 лет назад

    when you want to own a Ferrari, price tags are not the focus. Its the style, the performance, the "wow" factor.
    get one. you wont regret it. Revolution kites are more than worth the price.

  • @snowlep99
    @snowlep99 13 лет назад

    Which model / year of the Revolution kites is this one ? Super colors

  • @TheKiteConnection
    @TheKiteConnection 12 лет назад +2

    My name is Dave Shenkman, I own The Kite Connection on the Huntington Beach Pier. I'm shocked at how many views this has had. I had more fun playing with everyone that day than they did, the wind was PERFECT. BTW, I fly Revs professionally and have so for 20 years, please don't fly that close to people. Thank you.
    Dave

    • @whirly8581
      @whirly8581 6 лет назад

      The Kite Connection hey Dave. What's the name of that Kite? And do ship?

  • @GreenGaslight
    @GreenGaslight 11 лет назад

    do these kites pull at all?

  • @daveshenkman1088
    @daveshenkman1088 11 лет назад

    About a 75' line set.
    Dave

  • @fagsmachine
    @fagsmachine 10 лет назад

    What bridles are on this kite? I have this model and mine are white.

  • @Geonious
    @Geonious 9 лет назад +1

    Great video. Now I know why those kites cost so much. It would have been cool seeing you walk it along the railing! Just imagine if someone would incorporate fiber optic lighting in the kite material so you can display messages. Now that would be killer!

  • @laytonsri150
    @laytonsri150 10 лет назад

    wow, awesome skill

  • @tristanspringer4456
    @tristanspringer4456 11 лет назад

    What is that kite called

  • @pilgrum0
    @pilgrum0 12 лет назад

    can you do slack line tricks with quad rev kites?

  • @morsela6913
    @morsela6913 4 года назад

    ok guys so where can i get this one? and a larger one for my self

  • @gorgeousdzastr
    @gorgeousdzastr 11 лет назад

    MAD control!

  • @Therealdealguyhere
    @Therealdealguyhere 9 лет назад +1

    How could there be 10 dislike??? This videos is very awesome. Should be no dislike lol.(Sorry bad grammar)

    • @georgepurdy6493
      @georgepurdy6493 9 лет назад +2

      Sirawish Uthenphan Bad pilots that are jealous their skills can't go beyond the launch and crash maybe??

  • @olletippse
    @olletippse 11 лет назад

    well done!!

  • @LaurenceTwist94
    @LaurenceTwist94 9 лет назад

    What magic is this?

  • @ardrie
    @ardrie 11 лет назад

    I mean, how fantastic is that? its like its alive, or something, a mind of its own, I have never seen this type of thing before, I want one,,, how much are they to buy? and, where can I buy one from?
    ,,, love to know... cheers

  • @user-non81k09ta
    @user-non81k09ta Год назад

    Good job.

  • @feralferret
    @feralferret 11 лет назад

    How much line have you got there?

  • @feralferret
    @feralferret 12 лет назад

    Hi Dave, is that vented at all, or a full sail? Wasn't sure if the criss-crossed type panels between the red and yellow colours were (gauze?) vents.

  • @rolls00m
    @rolls00m 11 лет назад

    Super fort mec !!!! EXTRA !!!!!

  • @dendraver
    @dendraver 12 лет назад

    if only these kites werent so rediculously overpriced

  • @jorgepereirajunior64
    @jorgepereirajunior64 11 лет назад

    A PRATICA LEVA A PERFEIÇAO . JPJ.

  • @plagick
    @plagick 9 лет назад +1

    the stops are too risky for my flavor, but ooh so tempting because of the reactions.
    Makes me want to try.
    Like $300 makes me want to try.I think I have made errors in my kite purchases by being cost conservative. Haven't we all?

    • @georgepurdy6493
      @georgepurdy6493 9 лет назад

      Plagick Cheap only works with beginner kites that will contact Mother Earth more than an experienced pilot would ever allow!

  • @paulcannefax2885
    @paulcannefax2885 9 лет назад

    sure would like to know who make Catherine Wheels Cutting edge is no more
    anyone know?
    Paul

  • @arnold2tube
    @arnold2tube 12 лет назад

    Following @snowlep99's comment, can anyone tell what type / model and year this Revolution kite is?

  • @leanddrin1
    @leanddrin1 11 лет назад

    belissimo video

  • @SZTILER
    @SZTILER 11 лет назад

    bardzo pomocny filmik w kopiowaniu tego latawca ,dziękuje;)...mam już rurki węglowe 6mm,materiał ripstop dwa kolory,mój będzie miał wymiary 2m na 65cm,trzeba będzie jeszcze poszukać krawcowej z maszyną która robi ścieg taki jak oryginał,linki zrobię na początek z żyłki wędkarskiej 10kg-przy słabszych wiatrach powinna wytrzymać ;).

  • @r1cew4ves73
    @r1cew4ves73 6 лет назад

    Bro it just looks like a fast drone

  • @mtp_studios
    @mtp_studios 11 лет назад

    i love that location i have bought kites there.

  • @nephilim1973
    @nephilim1973 12 лет назад

    It's an REV 1.5 SLE, but not the 2011 design...

  • @Cristianopipo
    @Cristianopipo 3 года назад

    Muito top

  • @nanss
    @nanss 11 лет назад

    Draw a face or at least some eyes on that kite :)
    It would be like staring at people.
    That would be awesome!!!

  • @dbcustomrc
    @dbcustomrc 8 лет назад

    how does the string not get all tangled

    • @stevennbrouwer1088
      @stevennbrouwer1088 7 лет назад

      Daniel Garner if it turns and gets around itself you still have full control, go the other way and you're good again

  • @marcarroua6058
    @marcarroua6058 10 лет назад

    awesome!!!!

  • @yorkie1792
    @yorkie1792 5 лет назад

    Its alive!!!! ;)

  • @myyotube8497
    @myyotube8497 9 лет назад +2

    its living

  • @kitestube
    @kitestube 11 лет назад

    try kiteconnection*c om (the shop you see in the background)

  • @MrJgwent
    @MrJgwent 11 лет назад

    would like to buy one, can anyone help ?

  • @spieltmit
    @spieltmit 11 лет назад

    COOOL
    It would be a quite bigger effect if it had eyes painted on it ^^. It seems really alive :)

  • @snowlep99
    @snowlep99 13 лет назад

    revolution kites are WOW

  • @tezzap8325
    @tezzap8325 12 лет назад

    But, not very easy to use. Takes a lot of practice

  • @daveshenkman1088
    @daveshenkman1088 11 лет назад

    You can, but it's not what they are known for.
    Dave

  • @melvyn3426
    @melvyn3426 9 лет назад

    Hi
    Is it possible to make this kite ,?or do you have to buy it ready made.Frank

    • @georgepurdy6493
      @georgepurdy6493 9 лет назад

      Frank Holmes Yes. Plans can be found. search "revolution type kite plans" but be able to sew and have a heat knife to cut the nylon unless you are real god with scissors! . Easier to buy first before building one of these as the rods are costly and you have to order them on line unless you have a fiberglass company that makes them close by! Wood doweling can't handle the stresses put on these kites in a good wind.

    • @melvyn3426
      @melvyn3426 9 лет назад

      Thanks George
      It sounds a bit beyond my capabilities,but thanks all the same

    • @georgepurdy6493
      @georgepurdy6493 9 лет назад

      Frank Holmes
      Go to Ebay or Amazon and look for stunt kites and get a cheap Rev type before building or buying the better ones as all that time or money and one bad crash makes cheap the tool for learning! LOL!
      Quad foils can help a little but they don't play as well as strutted kites do. I AM looking on how to turn a smaller or less than 2 m foil into a quad as medical problems and a skinny arse and an over 2m anything and I become the weight holding the air in the kite that's dragging a human all over the field! I can't do a board due to brain surgery YET! Working on that as I am not ready to quit! LOL! But have fun!
      Blue Sky's and Safe Journeys

  • @MrLolo-xs6ob
    @MrLolo-xs6ob 8 лет назад +1

    Very cool kite but putting in on unexpecting people's faces might get it ripped apart if somebody doesn't find it funny

    • @daves3919
      @daves3919 7 лет назад +1

      Now THAT is a true statement, which is why I always do a little test run first and communicate fully with my audience. Those that show any fear, concern, etc, will never be bothered...

  • @k9cop68
    @k9cop68 12 лет назад

    Super bad ass

  • @JPurvis10
    @JPurvis10 12 лет назад

    Welcome to quality products made in America! :D

  • @rodneyhendrickson9811
    @rodneyhendrickson9811 7 лет назад

    What is the name of this and where can i get me one !!! Thanks Rodney

    • @stevecool7166
      @stevecool7166 7 лет назад

      rodney hendrickson I was gonna ask same question. think the kite says "revolution" on it.

    • @rodneyhendrickson9811
      @rodneyhendrickson9811 7 лет назад

      Steve Cool Okey thanks I'd love to get me one !

    • @stevecool7166
      @stevecool7166 7 лет назад

      rodney hendrickson I just typed in " Revolution stunt kite" myself and it took me to a website which sold them and advertised this very video. They were around $400.

    • @rodneyhendrickson9811
      @rodneyhendrickson9811 7 лет назад

      Wow I didn't think theu where that much but i just mite get me one Thanks Steve Cool

    • @daves3919
      @daves3919 7 лет назад +1

      Well, sort of "just like it", come on now Joe!! LOL! That particular model is about $300.00 complete, including lessons if you come to the store in Huntington Beach!

  • @calebpohlman8037
    @calebpohlman8037 11 лет назад

    thay are $150 to $500

  • @thatslyfe
    @thatslyfe 11 лет назад

    @zeffman99...... The kite is made by Revolution Kites, revkites dot com

  • @ardrie
    @ardrie 11 лет назад

    very good amazing actualy

  • @FeqZGalaxy
    @FeqZGalaxy 9 лет назад

    where is standing the guy who controls the kite? :D

    • @daves3919
      @daves3919 9 лет назад +1

      SUPERHOT I'm on the beach about 75 feet from the pier. Thanks.
      Dave

    • @georgepurdy6493
      @georgepurdy6493 9 лет назад

      Dave Shenkman Blueish colored shirt??

    • @FeqZGalaxy
      @FeqZGalaxy 9 лет назад

      Dave Shenkman oh ok :D

    • @daves3919
      @daves3919 9 лет назад +1

      George Purdy Yep, just behind the trash can.

  • @DOLEWDREW
    @DOLEWDREW Год назад

    Skilled flying: yes. But it is all fun and games until it is not! That was dangerously reckless and could potentially have resulted in serious injury or worst !

    • @daves3919
      @daves3919 11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for you comment. A highly skilled professional pilot of 40 years. So not the case. Do you say the same about air shows with Jets flying over 100s of thousand of people?

    • @DOLEWDREW
      @DOLEWDREW 11 месяцев назад

      @@daves3919 I suppose a highly skilled professional motorcyclist doing wheelies on a highway that was pulled over by police can express the same sentiment ? Crowds purposely attending an airshow are assuming some level of risk at these heavily insured events. I would be shocked to learn if Revolution Kites condones or encourages the use of their products in this fashion. Do they ??

    • @TheKiteConnection
      @TheKiteConnection 11 месяцев назад

      @DOLEWDREW considering they have used that footage in almost every promotion, I am one of their largest dealers in the world, and I did their Advanced flying video for them, not to mention that particular video has sold more kites for them than any other video in their 35 year history, I'd say yeah, they do.

  • @jamestagle4040
    @jamestagle4040 7 лет назад

    i want one

  • @Desillusionated
    @Desillusionated 11 лет назад

    revolution

  • @zeffman99
    @zeffman99 11 лет назад

    cool controll.....what are these kites called? made me laugh you harrassing the people on the pier lolzz

  • @r2aphyd2mass20
    @r2aphyd2mass20 11 лет назад

    if only you could make 1 out of you bare hands...

  • @oscaralvarez1919
    @oscaralvarez1919 8 лет назад

    better than a drone :D

    • @bradleyduckett7330
      @bradleyduckett7330 8 лет назад +1

      +Oscar Alvarez Depends on what type of drone and who's flying it. Kites are definitely safer.

    • @richarddarlington1139
      @richarddarlington1139 8 лет назад

      +bradley duckett "Drones" ARE safe. It's stupid "pilots" that are dangerous!

    • @bradleyduckett7330
      @bradleyduckett7330 8 лет назад

      +Richard Darlington I like how you put drones and pilots in quotes. I've done the exact same thing before. "Drones" doesn't only mean a quadcopter. And real pilots fly real aircraft. I'm a quadcopter based aerial photography platform operator! Get it right people. ;-p. haha.

    • @richarddarlington1139
      @richarddarlington1139 8 лет назад

      +bradley duckett Yeah. Isn't punctuation wonderful? I've been building and flying R/C planes since the late '70's. Love it to death! I do have one quad copter, a Blade Nano. I don't fly it much, though. It's just not the same as flying fixed-wing aircraft. Quads do make for a great camera platform, though. I've seen some wonderful footage here on You Tube. Have you posted anything? Thanks for the reply. Peace always...

    • @bradleyduckett7330
      @bradleyduckett7330 8 лет назад

      +Richard Darlington I have not posted anything yet. Right now I'm in between quadcopters. My Blade 350 qx3 lost a (brand new) prop at about 100' up over pavement. Too many parts were damaged to justify it. I was flying in one of the crazy modes, but it was well within the capabilities of the machine. Broke my heart. The default modes are a bit boring for people who've cut their teeth on planes. In the next couple of weeks I'm going to upgrade to the chroma 4k. Going all out (well kind of lol) The GPS quads are a blast. So are the little micros. I don't have any great footage uploaded since I didn't have a gimbal. I do have a video that was decent. I need to upload it to YT. I do have a "hangar" full of brand new planes that I inherited including a beeeaaautiful Curtis Jenny. Have a great one man. Glad to see there are some other responsible "pilots" out there. ;-p

  • @yomanzpixel5877
    @yomanzpixel5877 6 лет назад

    What type of kite is that

    • @daves3919
      @daves3919 5 лет назад

      Revolution 1.5 custom FIRE Color.

  • @JessePlays915
    @JessePlays915 9 лет назад

    put that thing in my face like that and you'll never see it again :P

    • @35mmraw
      @35mmraw 4 года назад

      tuff guy

  • @DougHinVA
    @DougHinVA 8 лет назад +3

    I can fly one that well (with the smaller version) and that guy is taking too much risk. A spar can let go and you suddenly have a person punctured by flying polymer rod. You should never get close to people in case a line breaks or a part of the kite fails.

    • @daves3919
      @daves3919 7 лет назад +1

      I have never had anything let go or break while entertaining people. I inspect my equipment religiously, and always fly in winds well below max for the line strength and spars used. I've flown professionally for decades, and have never had an incident.

  • @TheVictimOfficial
    @TheVictimOfficial 3 года назад

    2020 i pick up girls with my Kite

    • @daves3919
      @daves3919 11 месяцев назад

      That must be one hell of a strong kite!

  • @daveshenkman1088
    @daveshenkman1088 11 лет назад

    aunt betty, you have your work cut out for you, much harder to learn on than a 1.5. Also, no original Rev is available new for 120.00, only an illegal chinese knock off or a used. id be VERY careful. As an authorized Rev dealer of 25 years, I have seen a lot of people get ripped off. unfortunatlely a lot of bad information. Please folks, do your homework b4 making a purchase. if not with me, with someone who knows, preferably a local kite store. Regards, Dave Shenkman.

  • @TheKiteConnection
    @TheKiteConnection 12 лет назад

    I will disagree with that comment and just leave it at that.
    Dave

  • @amycoles7495
    @amycoles7495 11 лет назад

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  • @danokitemano9316
    @danokitemano9316 3 года назад

    Very irresponsible kite flying. You should only approach someone like this with their permission. Personally, I would laugh if someone took out a knife & slashed at that Rev to give it asymmetrical vents! LoL

    • @daves3919
      @daves3919 11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for you comment, as ignorant as it is. Perhaps you should research the facts. At no time was anyone in danger. I guess you missed the part where EVERYONE was laughing and having a great time.

  • @nofaithjusthope8714
    @nofaithjusthope8714 7 лет назад +2

    Ever heard of kite safety? Your not setting a good example. I don't think flying into unsuspecting peoples faces is cool, more stupid than anything. There's always a chance of accident no matter how good a flyer pilot you think you are.

    • @daves3919
      @daves3919 7 лет назад +1

      Thank you for your comment. I have been flying professionally for 30 years, nobody was ever in danger, I was in constant contact with everyone, I have full insurance, etc. Yes, there is always a chance of an accident, just like when you ride a bike near the public, play football on the beach, etc. Again, thank you for your comments, it's always good to emphasize safety.

    • @elcajondavid1
      @elcajondavid1 3 года назад

      I use to fly the rev's. They have great control and can stop on a dime even in high wind. I went back to two lines because I could do more tricks with them but there is less control compared to the rev's four lines. I can assure the flyer is not a newbie and no one was in danger with them flying. The rev's are basically a precession kite.