NEW BMW i5 M60 Review: An Electric M5 With Too Much Tech? | 4K
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Rory hops aboard the new BMW i5, a tech-laden 600hp battery electric version of the 5 series, to see how good it truly is.
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Every new BMW makes me love the previous models more and more
i agree, though with this car i really like the rear and side profiles, just the front i dont really like at all
If you'd ever driven a 5-series, you'd know, there are only few cars in the market which perform so well over multiple generations like the 5-series does.
Old models will skyrocket in value
@@dampmakythe main problem is not the looks lol
Not with F90
While it’s good to hear the mention of no acoustic glass and the wireless charging only being on one side, I’m surprised reviews like this don’t mention all the other missing features that previous 5-series’ had, like no soft close doors, no ambient lighting on the rear doors, no seat back pockets, no door sill plaques, no comfort access on the rear door handles, etc. It seems like BMW has stripped out a ton of features for cost cutting
Like most BMWs, those will gradually be added in as options as time goes by
All these 5 series videos popping seem very similar. they're not proper reviews. More like first impressions.
Once the full range is released we'll start seeing thorough reviews.
They might be subscription only though. 🤣
looks like a skoda btw
And yet it is slower than Tesla model 3 perf
They have managed to turn the finest looking model in their line-up into an oddly proportioned far-eastern design... Kudos to BMW....
frankenstein
no coincidence I think that over there is one of BMW main markets
They are selling boatloads of iX, one of the ugliest recent BMWs. Not just in China but also in US. Sadly, this means we can expect more 'visually-challenged' successor models from BMW
The 5 series has always been the base for their line up. Unbreakable, understated and refined. Nowadays.....
At least it's not as ugly as 7 series.
Anyone else getting Skoda Octavia vibes from the styling?
no?
The head of design at BMW is from Czech I think. Explains the styling
Yeah. That was the first impression it gave me.
Kia K5
The only reason I clicked on this vide was because I thought it was a Skoda review. Disappointed to find out that it was a BMW :D
This looked so much better than the ones i've seen with a lighter bodycolour.. everything just blends together a bit more.
But can someone please tell all manufacturers that pianoblack isnt a sign of luxury, it just looks cheap! And that goes for both interior and exterior...
Too true - it looks like the plastic from a box of Cadbury's Milk Tray.
They do it on purpose. They know that after 5 years it is going to look scratched up.
They do it because it was the hot shit 10 years ago and a lot of buyers still think it is.
Must be cheap, it’s all over my eNiro 😂😂.
Giant infotainment screens and digital dials
If "one of the best things" on a car is an "ambient lightbar", doesn't that raise any questions? It's like buying a new mobile phone because it has a better camera, but the main function, making a call, is just like any other... Where did we get lost on the purpose and function of things?
Well said! Reminded me of the primary problem with our modern society is that things were meant to be used and people to be loved.
Instead rampant consumerism has us loving our thing's and using people.
Because the smartphone, despite being sold as a phone has been a computer for twenty years.
Edit: I'm going to imagine that you haven't read old road tests, because posh cars have sold on the marquetry, leather and carpets for decades.
@@grievuspwn4g3 those are (besides the woody bits, I admit which are a luxury) features to get you from A to B with a driving-experience that aims at comfort, those are not gimmicks. What's the genuine added value of having an "ambient lightbar"? Besides a distracting toy to show off?
And yes, a smartphone does lots of things - albeit in a mediocre way. If you want really good pictures, you buy a real camera. That does just that. Do 1 thing the best you can.
I guess I would rather have a Caterham 7 than this... I know, different use... But driving from an experience point-of-view? Yes.
Really, disco-lights on your dashboard? They could tune things like that down, in my honest opinion... even after this short period in the E-age, the car-industry is lacking true innovation. Instead, they throw these gimmicks at us to sell "new" cars. But they forget that a transtunnel is obsolete...
That sums up many car reviews nowadays.
"it feels this - it feels that"
I have an interest for the product, not someone's personal emotions towards LED lights...
I dunno. Camera function is more important than calls for me these days. It's the main reason i or l periodically upgrade my phone
I like how 4:49 the tail lights already have condensation that will shortly kill the led lights. Nothing majorly changed from f10 times xD
Is that condensation on the inside? I looked but I'm not so sure. If it is on the inside, then that's pretty bad :-(
For this is ugly. What are BMW doing? However, I applaud their diversity policy, having recently employed Stevie Wonder as head of design. I commend you.
£97 THOUSAND POUND?! I almost choked on my coffee and spat it out 😂
Welcome to 2023 car prices - they have increased since the 1990's !
This is cheap in compared to AMG products. The 4-pot SL AMG is 110k 😂😂🤡
@@peterhammer4644 - Exactly !
When you think about it that is ridiculous. A 5 series is meant to be a good choice family car. Yes an M5 is the high end version and the electric M5 is top monkey, but it’s a fucking BMW not a bastard Porsche 911 GT3 RS ffs 😂
In fact when you think about it properly, when this thing is optioned out, it’ll top £120k??
Interaction Bar?! Come on BMW. Those touch screen buttons and haptic buttons on the panel look terrible I thought bmw would have learned VW’s lesson with these awful controls
Its like BMW doesn’t want to make good looking cars anymore 😂
At least the BMW designers haven’t ruined the look unlike the 7,2,M3 and that weird SUV thing I don’t even know the number 😂
i'm probably in the minority but i actually prefer the look of the new M2 over the old one. the old one was, in my opinion, too curvy and rounded for such a small chassis.
@@fafiteee Didn't like the M2 when I saw pictures but when you actually see one in person it definitely looks better than people make out. Just a shame about the weight....
this is ruined way more imo
dont buy bmw save money
The X7 with the front lights?
Compared to a Model S Plaid:
+ More comfortable, more luxurious
+ Head-up display
- Less range (!)
- Less acceleration and top speed
- Less efficient
- Less space (!)
- Less options in the app and the onboard system
- Personal note: artificial driving sounds. It´s a bloody EV, making LESS noise is one of the major points of those!
- Child show for launch control: shaking, artificial delay, allto emulate an ICE car. Bullshit.
So for a price similar to the Model S you get a car that shmoozes up to you more nicely but at the same time gives you the finger in it´s overall performance and available space. Thanks, but no thanks.
Even the new Model 3 offers more - at least in some areas - than this "executive" I5 does.
BMW sure builds nice cars. Once they start building cars that are equally as good as they are nice we can start talking about warranting their price point.
Model S has the dash monitor behind the wheel. Doubt it actually has a better ride given the Model S is on air suspension.
@@boostav My bad, forgot about the dash. Correcting.
I hate new BMW interiors. I have a BMW E91 single hump, and the interior is still TIMELESS. I was looking to get an X5, but the new screen is a deal breaker.
Lol, timelessly shite maybe. The interior of 3-series BMWs has been lacking for a long time until maybe the Facelifted F3X Series, first gen on that one also sucked. Nothing timeless in a positive way about them, sorry dude. Whatever you're smoking, maybe care to share some of it ? Seems to be dope stuff.🤣
Who ever designed the dash Is still having trouble with The square peg round hole dilemma
I'm going to hold on to my 2019 3-touring for as long as possible.
It’s never too much keep up the work bmw I love these M’s especially the g80’s
Watching Reviews of E-cars launching from 0-60 feels like watching the same iPad review over and over again...
The 5 series has always been classy - but I cant get over the fact that it's as long as an S-Class from the 90's!
It’s bigger than a 2008 7 series
The front looks like a Skoda Octavia after a head on collision
Great review Rory. Seen a few reviews of BMW’s lately and the thing I take most from them is the cost. So expensive. Would have been interesting to see how much this one cost with the extras. But starting at £97,000. For a probable 250 mile range with a light footed accelerator is just nuts. Yes the car is lovely inside but……. No acoustic glass. Odd.
The sad thing is: Mercedes is probably still more expensive
The used/nearly new market is so strong right now because no one wants to pay the inflated price for new. Not worth it at all.
Strange - my 2018 530e X-Drive does have acoustic glass. Not sure that's on the driver side only - I'll have to check. Mine's a US market car so maybe it's different on the UK market side.
Oh please, kill me! These goofy noises like you’re in a flying saucer in alien movies from the 50’s, the gimmicky rumbles when launching the car. Is this the future or is it a farce?
Massive black block right in the middle of their signature kidney “grill”, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE!!!!💀 This new 5 series design has no soul. BMW, WTF happened?
And the interior, oh please, kill me again! Even a Kia has better functionality. No practical cubbies, touch icons that are so tiny, you need a magnifying glass to look at them, and of course take your eyes off the road for about an eternity and a half just to press it correctly.
If this is supposed to be the epitome of EV according to BMW, there is no freaking way I’m ditching my ICE car for a piece of clunky junk like this.
Transmission tunnel is there for combustion engine versions. Duh!
Why does it have such a long overhang in the front when it has no engine?
It's an engine conversion. They're hardly likely to redesign the car just because they've removed the engine.
No buttons. Here come the subscriptions for the most basic functions..
As someone who just tried one out yesterday, it's a very nice car and I'm not a huge fan of our new vehicles once they're announced right away. But this one is all better than the previous and I really like the previous five series. If not it is my favorite 5 series ever
3.8 s to 62m/h 😂
The same then as
Chinese MG4 Xdrive that cost 36,5 k 😂
BMW still does not have the dedicated EV platform just battery and motors strapped to combustion engine car it’s a joke 👎👎👎
So the best thing about this £100k BMW is the £9.99 LED lighting that matches your driving mode! I think I'll pass.
2-3kw per mile, at the end of 2023, is pathetic.
Bmw - the master of ruining good designs 😢
Over design.
Unfortunately like current BMW I models it retains a similar ugly slab like exterior design.
Far too many gimmicky interior functions, hy would you want the car to take a selfie ?
The overall price is out of reach for most buyers, however this is not a car for most buyers.
Probably the only good looking new BMW, also the new Z4 is not bad.
All the rest is sht.
Selfies at the start of a road trip are a tradition for us
If u want a 5 electric juas buy a tesla model s!! BMW is selling on brand image allone at the moment!
Why not just get a 7 series with a screen in the rear because it's the same interior accross the range and the rear screen ultimately sets the 7 apart from the rest.
BMW absolutely lost the potential of the i5 by using the battery of the i4, even tho the i5 is much bigger and could have used a bigger battery. That’s especially obvious with the e-drive40 version - same battery and motor of the i4 and the i4 even has better range. such a disappointing fail from BMW.
I think theres a fear that in a year or two the batteries in current EV's will be outdated. Currently every brand seems to be struggling with battery improvement. Cold climate+highway= ~300km range for most ev's.
Based on google the i5 is from 80 to 100kg heavier than the i4 so there shouldnt be to much of a penalty in range. And with the rear wheel drive i4 one reviewer in norway went either 640km or 680km and i wouldnt base range on these kind of reviews but only in reviews that are for range only.
BMW has always offered the same engine in different models. E.g. a 530i has always had the same engine as a 330i (and thus been a bit slower b/c it's in a bigger, heavier car). So why are you surprised that the i4 40e and the i5 40e both have the same engine & battery (and thus the i5 has factionally less range)?
It has the same range as the i4
Nice BMW EV I5, I like BMW's minimalist dashboard screen. I like the glass buttons. I think this is not a true EV, it is a gas car with an electric motor and battery. The car's aerodynamic is not pro-EV.
Long gone are the days of conservative, time-less designs. BMW is targeting a different, younger demographic (despite wondering how younger people could reasonably afford a vehicle like this without stressing their financial situation).
They aren't targeting a younger generation, all of this design is for the Chinese market which is now BMW's largest at 32.3% of sales. US and Germany combined are only 25%, for perspective.
One of my cars is a plain jane, E39 525i m sport in silver metallic. Over 400 000km on the clock and you can still be sitting there and forget you have the engine running. So smooth. I'm not even the primary driver of it anymore, but it is peak BMW in my opinion, behind the m5 version.
Why compare the i5 M60 with the Tesla Model S Plaid when the Long Range is quicker 0-60 already, has a significantly longer range.and is significantly cheaper.
There is a transmission tunnel because they will build this car also with an ICE. It's the price you pay when you make a multi technology platform. Quite silly to complain about that as a car journalist.
costs nearly 100,000 aud more than the m550i it replaces, no ttV8, same 0-200kmph time, and then its actually slower than the m550i beyond that. It also weighs 600kg more - pretty awful IMO compared to its predecessor
Looking forward to the touring. Do the PHEV's have a "step" in the boot?
its ugly, its electric, its expensive and its a BMW, no thanks
This is by far the worst integration of sensors in the front. Just how can you come up with this kind of solution, by breaking the traditional BMW grill? Look at Mercedes 2014 S class, where they integrated most of the road sensors in the logo - nobody even knows or sees, that there are any sensors at all. Then look at this BMW - a complete disaster from a design perspective. Secondly - older BMW had the most amazing angel eye lights, that so many of BMW fanboys loves even nowadays. And look at these front lights - wtf? Why BMW is skipping all of the great traditional design elements, that can be developed in a more modern way? And how the leadership can sign off such a bad design decision? I guess the answer is clear - Nowadays, the people who make decissions at BMW are not car fanatics, but people who care about profit margins and come form a product design / industry. Even most of the die-hard BMW fans are hating the new BMW car models. This says a lot of about where the company is heading...
A fossil fuel car with a transplant will always be a compromise. If you want electric buy a ground up EV.
I wish all EVs were ground up.
@@americansmarkinto a fine paste, and then capsuled and ejected into space
@@_ph4nt0mzz_47 😂 🏆
Especially at just shy of $100K. That definitely feels like a price I shouldn’t be making compromises at.
Agreed!
All brands really have to learn by themselves what EV consumers want in interior? Why don't they learn from the feedback other brands have gotten. Away with piano black, the weird touch bar, practical space and the noises are so corny. And screen may be preferential, but just have it usable. Like they operate like my 10 year old android phone. I dont get it
Its those daytime running lights.... they look wrong. I get what they tried to do, sort of mirror the lines of the front grille, but the execution is poor. Wrong angle and looks off; when looking head-on, it gives a compressed look to the car which doesnt look appealing. Im sure they will fix it with the facelift.
Why does bro have on a jacket with the United States Army, Special Forces patch on it? 😂😂
It’s just a military style jacket..
BMW may make a better car... but Tesla makes a much better EV; once ease of charging, phone app, software integration, battery/motor performance, autonomy, regular OTA's, and real world range are considered. In fact those things are Tesla's core competencies, whereas none of the legacy automakers are competent in them at all.
This is not bmw 😂😂😂
Without even watching its 2300kg with a real worl range of maybe 250 miles, farcical backwards step.
Butt looks like old Skoda Superb....
Not as quick as the model S plaid? Man, it's not as quick as the cheapest model S. Nor the model X, Y, and 3 for that matter.
Wrong. This car is faster then the i4 which is faster then a model 3 performance. watch the car wow drag race also "Wheels Plus tesla vs 2023 i4" BMW is also faster 100-200 it just keeps pulling and pulling the further the race goes on or in a rolling race it wins everytime. BMW on paper ALWAYS understates their cars performance numbers. It's always way better. While tesla overstates theirs by using rollout. The m3p is said by tesla too be 3.1 0-60 but in reality it's 3.4 - 3.6 and gets worse depending on batter. Tesla may handle better but the i4 is def faster
Not to mention LOOK AT THIS CAR AND ITS INTERIOR. It looks miles and I mean miles better then any tesla. It's mean and aggresive while sleek at the same time. It's not a plain jane egg like the model 3 and Y. It's not outdated looking like the model S. It's not a mini van like the model X. It actually has a HUD and gauge clusters. Nothing feels special about being in a tesla. It's dull and plain jane. The driving dynamics and fit and finish of this car is night and day compared to a tesla. Plus it's tech is ahead.
What an overall disappointing car, from a company like BMW... looks, practicality, performance, all sub par, for the money. And that fake sounds are horrendous
WAIT. 600 hp, but top speed of < 230 kph (142 mph)? WTF? And this is a "M" badged car? Is the target market 80+ year olds?
I think most of this is fantastic.... If you're five years old! Does anyone seriously give a damn about ambient lighting and selfie modes?
Don't worry. Many people have the mentality of five year olds especially when it comes to cars 😄
Looks like the next gen Camry from the back 😵💫😵💫 super confusing Chinese like design… no identity…
EV cars are dead…. Honda, Toyota, Ford, VW and many more have stopped or in the process of ending EV cars. The market is just not there unless your a yuppy!
Rory has cats? I love him even more now. 🐈
Ummm......is it me or this thing looks hideous? It's like BMW is loosing that elegant touch 🤷🏾♂️
EV are fundamentally at present (financially in all aspects ) unattractive.
Crash safety still only up to 40mph? No rear frontal air bags! 0-62mph more important? Grow up!
CarPlay is a must have for me. Ditched my S for an i4. Love it. And like the look of this.
Anyone know what that lever is that Rory presses at 16:23 and what the orange flashing light does? Never seen that before on a BMW.
Very odd styling, particularly the front and rear fascia. Looks more like a Peugeot than a BMW.
BMW absolutely nailed
looking bland..
Why would anybody want to drive fast in something that weighs 2.4t. Ev’s are just a bad joke!
£97000 for a milk float............
Let’s put a kidney grill on it that doesn’t look at all like a kidney grill for a japenese effect ,🤦♀️ yeah fire the design team!
From €70,844 for a 520i in Ireland, they are losing their minds 🤣. I guess this is the end of seeing a BMW 5 Series on every corner of the street.
Did my valuation on my current 2017 kia
Just need to find £90k down the back of the sofa to buy this bmw with no extras😊
I don't think 81kWh is enough in this segment, particularly given that it's almost certainly much less efficient than a Tesla. People want Tesla alternatives that are a bit more "solid" and more conventional looking, but not at the expense of range. As far as practical, fast, efficient, electric saloons go, the upcoming Model 3 Plaid (or whatever they call it) is going to be hard to beat. Recent "Highland" improvements to cabin refinement and suspension, rumoured to be further improved in the new model, ought to move the game on. I understand that there are loads of people who hate Teslas, but I suspect many of those people will also stick with the fossil BMWs as long as they are available. It's a shame BMW dropped the ball so badly after the incredible i3.
Agreed. The i3 was way ahead of it's time and now BMW are trailing behind. They completely butchered their headstart in the EV game.
Although I can't stand the new Model 3 for how cheap it is. Not a single button, knob, stalk or lever in sight and they call their severe cost-cutting being "minimalist".
I’m on my third EV the second one was a BMW i3s that I loved. There are many reasons why I couldn’t live with a Tesla.. No Apple Car Play of Android Auto, No rear wiper, No HUD, not fully adaptive headlights, limited colour choices, model S & X not available in RHD, no option for 22 kW AC charging, wouldn’t drive one without indicator stalk. In 2013 they were miles ahead, not so much in 2023. Don’t get me started on the parking sensors delete the self parking is a joke in comparison to other makes.
@@garrycroft4215 The BYD Seal is an interesting Model 3 alternative which addresses a lot of your objections. Its only drawback seems to be slow fast charging (and being Chinese, which seems to bother some people).
@@johnl.7582 I should have said my third EV I bought on the October 4th, it’s the Smart #1 Brabus at £43,450 it’s not cheap until you look at the performance and six pages of kit that comes as standard. In fact there are only two extras , a tow bar and flat paint both I don’t want. The Mercedes dealership I bought it from also does BYD I’m sure that they will do very well.
I certainly agree, in this class they should offer in the realm of a 100kWh. Though based on my experience these BMW EV‘s, so far I‘ve driven the i7, iX and i4 are actually quite efficient, in case of the i4 even matching results of a Model 3.
i dont care if it hits 60 in 1 sec and got billions of tech , it just looks hideous , previous bmw's are miles better looking than this
6:25 As a certified former child, I can
confirm we will play how much stuff
can you fit in it, before you get caught!
why is almost none commenting about how dull the new 5 series looks, it looks like a kia stinger with bmw badge, no brand identity
This isn't Carwow, but it's cute and quaint.
So slow.... Model 3 perf can go 0-62 faster... Even a BYD seal can do 3.8s.
I have had several 5 series in my lifetime however Iv got to be honest now my kids are a lot bigger , with me also being 6ft 4 I find the rear leg room to be some what of a joke . As a daily car for just me absolutely loved the recent new hybrid 5 series bmw I had on loan but as a family car - I didn’t work for my family.
This spec hides pretty successfully otherwise rather ugly 5 series. Proportions are off, especially rear 3/4 with unnecessary finicking with the Hoffmeister kink. Looks more like a good looking Hyundai rather than 5 series. Front end in any brighter colour looks horrendous, god forbid if you omit the M-package. What were they thinking?
Hyundai have been making better looking cars than BMW for a while now.
The front end does remind me of a Hyundai
I saw both the pre-facelifted and the LCI F90 M5 Competition this past weekend, and that generation looks a ton better than this.
@@Hashbrowniepie 🤣🤣🤣 No!
Looks boring resembling like a posh skoda octavia. Nothing to write home about.
There is no „D” pillar. The 5 is embossed on the „C” pillar.
You are just a great demonstrator Bro.....
I don't mind tech if it lasts but all these trinkets fail all the time. This is a vehicle NOT a laptop
Someone is out to sabotage bmw.... Who approves of these horrible designs tbh?
Go check Rory's McLaren review, and then see if you can spot what is completely missing in this BMW review. Or rather, what this BMW is missing.
Ugly boring ev. At least not that ugly like merc eq series, 7 and 2 series.
I have to say these infotainment system menus are an eyesore! So many icons, going on the screen. In the real word you would have to hunt for what you are looking for while driving and it would be no different than looking at your cellphone while driving. Also, I wonder why car manufacturers don't integrate sensors into the fake vent areas of a car instead of being big eye sores. Like literally BMW has two giant "kidney bean" areas where they can just have two matching hidden sensors there instead of having a giant ugly rectangle in the middle. I'm sure they could figure that out, but nope it just breaks up the grill bodylines.
Their supplier would have to make specific sensors for them which would drastically increase the vehicle's price which is already in the "wtf" region.
Great video Rory. Really wish they’d made the car look more exciting, the back end reminds me of a middle aged Jag XF and gloss black plastic fanatic swirl mark magnets are going to look dated very quickly.
Good try by BMW... if the efficiency was a little better it would have a very reasonable range. 160 to 250 real range is a touch too low.
The range is much more in summer temps. My Taycan does 300 km in Finland in the winter and almost 500 km in the warm summer.
Tesla model s is the best option atm if you want a fast daily that’s EV and luxurious - the latest model S
@WNFpker Maybe perfectly true in America but it is no longer for sale in UK. As we are right hand drive. The only S here is old second hand.
@@mikadavies660 oh yes I forgot about that. But I suppose the lower range wouldn’t really be a problem for those in the UK . I lived in the UK for 2 years and noted that you folk do not drive as far compared to North Americans, on average.
@WNFpker True enough. After all it is a smaller country. Plus fuel is more and wages are less. Models S and X are very nice but we can only buy 3 or Y. Really the Y long range does everything we night need. No surprise that it the world's best selling car!
these Electric cars make me sick... literally when driving and also just hearing about them... that Hans Zimmer noise while accelerating sounds like the THX Intro on old movies... 😂😂 man come on bring ice cars back for real!
Transmission tunnel in the rear? Remind me, what were they for then? Right, so why featured in an EV? Thanks for the review, but I'll be giving this one a miss. (XM just launched in this market at €211,000. How many ultra rich buyers looking for a BMW are there out there? Autotrader should know.)
Homologation.
I like my cell phone battery powered.. and I don’t drive a cell phone. 😂
Just said too much tech in title then in video not as much tech what is it too little or too late make your mind up
Looks like a skoda
While I’m not ready for an all electric car just yet, BMW did a great job on this car. I wish there was an M560 version.
Just buy a Tesla if you want anything electric. German brands are utter ass with features to price range that tesla offers. Dont confuse minimalism to cheap..
What utter nonsense. tesla can't even get panel gaps right..... STILL.
The sound effect was a nice touch for the intro😂
8:22 Talking about how good it is to have physical steering buttons, what about a nicely integrated physical buttons for HVAC, like in the old days? Also those buttons on the steering wheel are more like one big button :/
The integration of the screen is also a joke. Putting a wide screen/iPad on the dash is lazy design integration, and is just a copycat from Tesla, which is a very non driver centric car compared to old BMWs.
13:51 😂
Needs to be half the price to compete with new model 3 which has more than 100 miles more range. Quite embarrassing really
No one is cross shopping a Tesla M3 with a BMW 5 Series - a glance into the Tesla interior is enough to tell you this !
@@SDK2006b yup £50k difference 😂😂😂 for a heads up display
@@tomcockcroft9394 - not quite !
@@SDK2006b and 100 miles less range lol