Thank you for the video, I own a 92FS I purchased in 1990, always wondered if there was a better trigger out there. Using this video, I installed this Wilson Combat trigger, a Wolf trigger spring and Wilson Combat hammer spring, incredible short travel and reduced trigger pull weight. I also added a two stage recoil spring, It shoots like a new gun.
@@guilhermecavalcantevieira5730 by take up you mean recoil and muzzle climb? Yes there is a delay in recoil induced by the dual spring on the slide. Makes the second follow up shot very doable.
Thank you for the instruction. Just installed the short trigger on my 96D Centurion. For a DA only pistol, this is an essential and excellent upgrade. The difference is not quite noticeable by looks, but definitely a big difference by feel. Before, I prefer the isosceles stance with this particular pistol due to my smaller hands. After the upgrade, I can shoot in the weaver stance and also one-handed just as well if not better.
I switched the SRT back to Beretta's steel trigger so I can use the Wilson Combat/Wolf trigger conversion unit without having to file anything down. A tad disappointed that WC didn't look into details deep enough.
Tactical_Assault_Popsicle Thanks for your input! I was wondering why brownells left this out of their video, anyone contemplating installing this trigger would naturally want to know how much it reduces the reach!
@@garywixson8852 Because its less than a tenth of an inch of change. People arent really interested in these when they find out that they barely shorten the trigger reach.
Thank you for this video. I was installing the Beretta steel trigger from the D Spring kit but this helped me a lot. Worst part was that darn trigger spring...better pliers needed next time. Got it all done with minimal cursing, thank you again. :)
Why didn't you show what the trigger did different at the end? I've watched videos from you guys before where, after you do the work, you don't show the completed project. It's annoying!!
@@neuvocastezero1838No. The short reach trigger only moves the trigger closer to the grip. To change the trigger reset travel, you'd have to buy a different trigger bar from Wilson or Langdon. As well as a new trigger spring assembly that limits the overtravel. Hope this helps.
@@stevensurman6365 I noticed on mine (92A1) that after the first shot, in SA there is a bit of "slop" that I have to take up before it will fire. Will this different trigger bar reduce/remove that slop? Also, does the new trigger bar effect the first DA trigger squeeze at all? Thanks.
Old video, I know. But you should mention that some 92FS have a notch on the trigger bar that the trigger spring sits in. You have to lift the trigger spring out of the notch to remove the trigger bar, it doesn't always just pull out like you show.
I installed this after the LTT trigger bar, and I can't say I noticed a significant improvement. Perhaps someone with smaller hands would be a better judge. The edges of the trigger could have been smoothed off a little better too. The factory steel trigger a better finish.
So I have the same trigger/trigger bar setup you got. At the same time as getting the trigger I also got me some G10 thin grips. I have hands that are a bit small for the Beretta 92. But I love the pistol so much I just dealt with it. For me it was the grips thay really made the grip better. I also immediately gave my factory grips to my dad so I haven't been able to tell what the trigger alone did for me. He had Hogue wrap around finger groove on his Inox and wasn't liking those at all. Love the LTT trigger bar though. I don't really focus on the short reset when I shoot but it's cool to have. My Walther P99AS has a short reset as well but on that I really notice it. Used to have a W. German marked Sig P228 that had a really long reset. Noticed that as well when shooting it. Almost spent $200 sending it back to Sig for their short reset trigger job but traded it for a HK Benelli M1 Tactical instead. Was wondering what your experience was with that trigger bar.
Upgrades I installed. Wilson short reach trigger, 14 lb. hammer spring, reduced power trigger spring. Improvements I noticed. NONE, ZERO, NADA. Waist of $$$. Reduced reach trigger is looser/sloppy fit, than factory trigger. If I had it to do over again..... I wouldn't.
Hey Farah, you look familiar. You were that SMOKING HOT chick that shot holes in quarters!!! Yeah, I know you!!! Been kicking any ass lately ? It should be against the Law to be as pretty as you are!! Guess what ? I rode to Asheville w/ my little sweetheart today April 18th 2017.
You should definitely notice a difference between the factory 20lb hammer spring and the 14lb Wilson Combat spring. I personally wouldn’t use the reduced power trigger return spring. Sucks you through away all that money for nothing. Live and learn.
@Jason Rasmussen It was brand new. I noticed a reduction in trigger pull, but the short reset didn't work. I found out, you need to file the trigger bar pad, before the short reset works. Some things are better left alone. The Wilson extended mag release is a fuc*ing nightmare to replace. The Beretta extended release is MUCH easier to install.
I feel like this is for a USA made beretta because on my italian 92fs, I could not drop the center trigger spring without the rear leg popping out the bottom. Instead what I had to do was put back in the trigger bar, then press the spring in with a screwdriver and then push the bottom trigger pin in from the left. Every other step is the same in this video.
Don't notice a difference and it looks like you reinstalled the original trigger as you can't just drop the spring in it needs to be put in at the same time with the trigger as opposed to dropped in.
This is not an adequate explanation of everything that needs to happen to do this at all. There are numerous small grooves that the springs need fall directly into and that's not mentioned at all. Also, getting the trigger return spring to go back into right position isn't easy at all. I would not recommend doing this yourself if you aren't experienced with this kind of work.
Don't know if you got an answer yet, but the answer is yes. Most DA/SA guns have a weird slop to them. There are trigger spring upgrades from Wilson and Wolff that get rid of it. They look like little snails. Just be sure to take the old spring out when you put the new one in. Some people don't.
Couldn't do it with an hour of time and putting the video speed on 50 percent. Terrible angles, not enough time focused on how the pins are supposed to be oriented. Terrible video
After 2 hours last night installing the g conversion kit, I needed an easy job. 3 minute video, job took me 3 minutes! Thanks!
Bro I still can't do it
Thank you for the video, I own a 92FS I purchased in 1990, always wondered if there was a better trigger out there. Using this video, I installed this Wilson Combat trigger, a Wolf trigger spring and Wilson Combat hammer spring, incredible short travel and reduced trigger pull weight. I also added a two stage recoil spring, It shoots like a new gun.
Well done! Glad we could help you out! Thank you for being a part of the Brownells Family!
Tomcat, does it reduce the take up?
@@guilhermecavalcantevieira5730 by take up you mean recoil and muzzle climb? Yes there is a delay in recoil induced by the dual spring on the slide. Makes the second follow up shot very doable.
Thank you for the instruction. Just installed the short trigger on my 96D Centurion. For a DA only pistol, this is an essential and excellent upgrade. The difference is not quite noticeable by looks, but definitely a big difference by feel. Before, I prefer the isosceles stance with this particular pistol due to my smaller hands. After the upgrade, I can shoot in the weaver stance and also one-handed just as well if not better.
Perfect! Glad we could help out!
I switched the SRT back to Beretta's steel trigger so I can use the Wilson Combat/Wolf trigger conversion unit without having to file anything down. A tad disappointed that WC didn't look into details deep enough.
For anyone who would want to know. This trigger reduces trigger reach by something like .07-.08 inches.
Tactical_Assault_Popsicle
Thanks for your input!
I was wondering why brownells left this out of their video, anyone contemplating installing this trigger would naturally want to know how much it reduces the reach!
@@garywixson8852 Because its less than a tenth of an inch of change. People arent really interested in these when they find out that they barely shorten the trigger reach.
@@Lonewolf6565 , does it reduce take up?
Thank you for this video. I was installing the Beretta steel trigger from the D Spring kit but this helped me a lot. Worst part was that darn trigger spring...better pliers needed next time. Got it all done with minimal cursing, thank you again. :)
That shit is ridiculous man
These kinds of videos are extremely helpful. Thank you.
Why didn't you show what the trigger did different at the end? I've watched videos from you guys before where, after you do the work, you don't show the completed project. It's annoying!!
Very good comment. They should show a side by side new vs. old.
The original 92 triggers have a very long SA reset. Does this change that?
@@neuvocastezero1838No. The short reach trigger only moves the trigger closer to the grip. To change the trigger reset travel, you'd have to buy a different trigger bar from Wilson or Langdon. As well as a new trigger spring assembly that limits the overtravel. Hope this helps.
@@stevensurman6365 Thanks, that was very helpful!
@@stevensurman6365 I noticed on mine (92A1) that after the first shot, in SA there is a bit of "slop" that I have to take up before it will fire. Will this different trigger bar reduce/remove that slop? Also, does the new trigger bar effect the first DA trigger squeeze at all? Thanks.
Old video, I know. But you should mention that some 92FS have a notch on the trigger bar that the trigger spring sits in. You have to lift the trigger spring out of the notch to remove the trigger bar, it doesn't always just pull out like you show.
Thank you, Just waiting for the delivery
Outstanding video! Gonna have this next to my work table when I make the change. Thank you!!!
Won't make the difference. I have a disassembled Beretta now and forever
I installed this after the LTT trigger bar, and I can't say I noticed a significant improvement. Perhaps someone with smaller hands would be a better judge. The edges of the trigger could have been smoothed off a little better too. The factory steel trigger a better finish.
So I have the same trigger/trigger bar setup you got. At the same time as getting the trigger I also got me some G10 thin grips. I have hands that are a bit small for the Beretta 92. But I love the pistol so much I just dealt with it. For me it was the grips thay really made the grip better. I also immediately gave my factory grips to my dad so I haven't been able to tell what the trigger alone did for me. He had Hogue wrap around finger groove on his Inox and wasn't liking those at all. Love the LTT trigger bar though. I don't really focus on the short reset when I shoot but it's cool to have. My Walther P99AS has a short reset as well but on that I really notice it. Used to have a W. German marked Sig P228 that had a really long reset. Noticed that as well when shooting it. Almost spent $200 sending it back to Sig for their short reset trigger job but traded it for a HK Benelli M1 Tactical instead. Was wondering what your experience was with that trigger bar.
Excellent 👍🏽 this really helps so much!
He makes it look so easy.
you the best brownells, excellent footage
this video was very instructive thank you
You got it! Thank you!
Oh, yea that was a piece of cake. Used a spring clamp as a 3rd hand.
any idea who much this reduces the reach? I just got a beretta and seriously need to mod it for my small hands.
Upgrades I installed. Wilson short reach trigger, 14 lb. hammer spring, reduced power trigger spring. Improvements I noticed. NONE, ZERO, NADA. Waist of $$$.
Reduced reach trigger is looser/sloppy fit, than factory trigger. If I had it to do over again..... I wouldn't.
Hey Farah, you look familiar. You were that SMOKING HOT chick that shot holes in quarters!!! Yeah, I know you!!! Been kicking any ass lately ? It should be against the Law to be as pretty as you are!! Guess what ? I rode to Asheville w/ my little sweetheart today April 18th 2017.
You should definitely notice a difference between the factory 20lb hammer spring and the 14lb Wilson Combat spring. I personally wouldn’t use the reduced power trigger return spring. Sucks you through away all that money for nothing. Live and learn.
If you didnt notice a difference with a 14 hammer spring. You fucked up
@Jason Rasmussen It was brand new. I noticed a reduction in trigger pull, but the short reset didn't work.
I found out, you need to file the trigger bar pad, before the short reset works. Some things are better left alone.
The Wilson extended mag release is a fuc*ing nightmare to replace. The Beretta extended release is MUCH easier to install.
Good video, I am doing this on my 92fs.
Been a long time lol, but how did it turn out for you? Feel way better?
Dont use this trigger on a Vertec grip Beretta 92. It makes it too close and pulling the trigger feels awkward.
Do they make one with an Inox finish?
Hi,
Will this trigger drop into a Beretta Cougar 8000 since it shares so much parts commonality with the 92/96? Thanks...
I feel like this is for a USA made beretta because on my italian 92fs, I could not drop the center trigger spring without the rear leg popping out the bottom. Instead what I had to do was put back in the trigger bar, then press the spring in with a screwdriver and then push the bottom trigger pin in from the left. Every other step is the same in this video.
Is the SRT compatible with Wilson Action Tune kit, which has already been installed? Trying to reduce trigger travel.
Yes, the trigger will work and is a great addition to this set up.
SRT really didn't make much of a difference. It would be nice if WC took this concept back to the drawing board and give us something better.
Don't notice a difference and it looks like you reinstalled the original trigger as you can't just drop the spring in it needs to be put in at the same time with the trigger as opposed to dropped in.
Much easier when paired with the Wolff or WC return spring conversion. Finished in less than 10 minutes. Disappointed in the SRT.
"Lift the rear leg of the trigger return spring up using a punch or scribe" Hahaha! Wait until you try this part folks.
Can someone explain the name of the book at the start?
Sorry for the delay...but that book can be found right here: bit.ly/1K17ois
Brownells, Inc. Thanks a lot!
Does it work with m9a3
I would also like to know :)
is this the same process for a Beretta 90-two and is there a video for that model?
The installation process is the same as the Beretta 92. We do not have a video specific to the 90-two..
This is not an adequate explanation of everything that needs to happen to do this at all. There are numerous small grooves that the springs need fall directly into and that's not mentioned at all. Also, getting the trigger return spring to go back into right position isn't easy at all. I would not recommend doing this yourself if you aren't experienced with this kind of work.
Sounds like you had all kinds of problems that most people don't have.
If you think replacing the trigger return spring is hard, I'd advise you not to try replacing the sear spring yourself.
shit doesnt work in my 92fs,
Will this trigger work in a Beretta 92 Compact?
Yes the Wilson trigger sure will fit the compact.
+Brownells, Inc.
Thanks for the response.
Is it me or does anyone else feel that the single action is spongy when dry firing?
Don't know if you got an answer yet, but the answer is yes. Most DA/SA guns have a weird slop to them. There are trigger spring upgrades from Wilson and Wolff that get rid of it. They look like little snails. Just be sure to take the old spring out when you put the new one in. Some people don't.
my barretta 92fs is stock. Do I need to purchase any springs or can just purchase the trigger and drop it right in
Drops right in. Same stock trigger spring works fine.
Fuck triggers never again lol
Couldn't do it with an hour of time and putting the video speed on 50 percent. Terrible angles, not enough time focused on how the pins are supposed to be oriented. Terrible video