Gobert wasn't wrong. Doesn't matter if a ISO was called for Randle at the three point line, you got a 7'1 dude on a 6'8 defender, literally 1 foot from the basket. Adapt and get the higher percentage shot.
Gobert doesn't have good handles. He mostly fumbles the ball while posting up. It's not a strong part of his game and for years he hasn't been working on his handles.
@@JasonExclusive this I agree; he wants to be the vocal point of the offence but the French bean-pole is there for the Defense and setting a screen and role for any dunk attempt.. haha
@@JasonExclusiveur right if gobert was on the move cuz he has sus coordination but on a post catch he’s actually more effective than people think, he has bad misses but he converts a lot of catches and last year Conley found him in some big moments
@@JasonExclusive For all the defense, rebounding and hustle Gobert does. You have to reward him every once in a while even if its 50% he fumbles. Thats about as good of a seal as you can get.
@@RoyLimisAw3s0me Man averages 6 shots a game as a starter and majority of those are put backs. I wouldnt considering a couple post ups a game a focal point. Reward the man covering for every one else on defense
Dude he can pirate games like everyone else and does. He probably just doesn't get to watch it live. Also League pass has every game available like the next day no matter the blackout. So he is just making excuses frankly
I agree. I live in Canada on the OTHER SIDE OF THE COUNTRY from the Raptors and their games are blacked out for me across for me at times on my own television.
It wasn't the only time in that game where he was wide open... could have been 4 or 5 other times throughout the game when he sealed his defender. It gets frustrating after a while.
It’s just an adjustment, season just began. Rudy is like the 4th best player (Maybe) he seriously is in no position to demand anything of Randle who is an All NBA player.. Rudy can’t even shoot. Just stick to your job Rudy, crash the glass and defend the paint
@@pleasedonttemptme5963 hate to be the guy, but all the numbers suggest Rudy has the greatest impact on the Wolves. even tho he was clowned last playoffs he had the second best plus minus of the whole western conference. and Rudy Gobert has made the all nba team more times than Randle, and he's had more team success. Safe to say Rudy is doing something right.
Lol he was literally unplayable in the Olympics next to an actual offensively capable big. Bro gets paid for defense and cost his team a W because he wanted to pout on offense. Loser mentality. @@Shortballa11
Castle, Wemby, Vassell, Sochan is a talented crazy line up. With Keldon, Tre Jones, Bassey, Wesley, Branham off the bench. This team is loaded and set up for success for the forseeable future.
Bontemps is underestimating Zion's negative impact on team culture. Zion's situation is the definition of addition by subtraction. The sooner he is out of the organization the better for the Pelicans.
Very true. However, the Pelicans in general are just a terrible organization. They have like zero clue on how to build a team, just sad to see them honestly
@@halfdayofthejackal9372Agree 100% with this. They should’ve capitalized on him a while ago rather than take more risks. As Knicks fan, I was ecstatic that we got rid of Randle while he had enough stock to get a KAT rather than continue risking on an injury prone, mood swinging, regular season All Star that never shows up in the playoffs.
Pels fan here and I agree with you man. At this point let’s just move on. He’s not the guy that’s going to lead us to the next level. The sooner we rip the bandaid off the better
People were ready to crown Anthony Edwards already. But that trade for Randle… ehhh. Not a fan of his game. As much heat Kat gets, I thought he was a better fit for them and how they run the offense.
I actually don't see Edward's game being all that, his shot is slow and methodical, his handle is weak and all he really does athletically every now and then is dunk but even those aren't anything really cool to see
@@jayarah1046 Its a shame cause when we got OG, he looked much more comfortable in the team and was taking more spot on shots and reducing his ISO plays which is just so inconsistent and wearing on himself. Hes really trying hard to push his number given he needs to ball out for a new contract
@@AlvarGeesusTheCreator KAT don't do defense which is why T-Wolves got Gobert to do what KAT should be doing LMAO... KAT has a MAX.. Gobert has a MAX.. Ant-Man is next in line for a MAX.. Naz is on a team friendly deal but as a Sixth-Man (he ought to want a new deal that is worthy of his value as a role-player); and T-Wolves were ranked one of the highest in DEFENSE in the whole NBA anyhow last season...
They are just upset they keep pushing for more ESPN success and that makes their life worse when he is happy at home making the money he makes now and waiting for a pension
I love watching these videos on youtube now and seeing the looks on your guys faces when you say this stuff. Love the deadpan looks and dry humor and making fun of each other. Never stop boys.
@OLAOnlyLegendzAllowed if we kept the #8 pick we wouldn't of been able to afford Chris Paul, and been able to afford to bring in Harrison Barnes in the Demar to Sac from Chicago deal. So in reality we traded Rob Dillingham (pick #8 ) For 3 frps Chris Paul Harrison Barnes
Victor and Castle are untouchable. Spurs would have to get something really special to move Vassell and/or Sochan, but they could conceivably be moved. For example, wouldn't you trade Vassell for a disgruntled Tyrese Maxi?
Phase 1 was these guys saying "no one will be on this team when the Spurs are good outside of Wemby cause that's what happened with Bron" Phase 2 was these guys saying "Maybe they keep Vassell and Castle around Wemby but that's it" and throwing a little "Julian Champagnie is nice" Phase 3 will be these guys realizing that the Spurs are 15 players deep this season for a reason. That Mamu, Bassey, Keldon, Sochan, Tre, Wesley are also part of the core of supporting players. Spurs fans who have been following believe in this team for a reason. We have like 8 young players this season and up to 4 first round picks in this draft. We are coming for the NBA
Bontemps is a smart guy with relevant thoughts to contribute most of the time and I appreciate hearing from him. That being said the dude has GOT to chill out a little.
I see what they mean about Victor not needing to shoot that many 3 pointers. But the only way he is going to develop every aspect of his game. Is by having in game reps. They are trying him out in different ways. And if he can get alot of 3s up and they are reps for developing. After he has figured it out. Then they will dial him down to 5-7 3pointers a game. He's a unicorn. So they have to play him all over the court.
I can see Windy submitting Tim's annual evaluation to ESPN HR: "Bontempts' approach during the discussion on the New Orleans Pelicans came across as assertive but at times may have unintentionally overshadowed his colleagues. There were moments where his contributions appeared to dismiss alternative perspectives, and he occasionally interrupted others, which might have limited the opportunity for a more balanced exchange of ideas. While his expertise is evident, a more collaborative and inclusive tone could enhance the quality of discussions and foster a more constructive dialogue among the team."
The Warriors have been looking to trade for a second star. That's what Zion is. It may have to wait for the off season though, and I would not be surprised if the Warriors refuse to over pay for a player that is very good but often injured.✌️
It's crazy that the Celtics went from everyone saying they were just lucky last year and that the playoff teams were hurt, so they had a fake title, to now an undefeated Cavs team and a title-contending Wolves team both getting props for just coming close to beating them. When did they get their bonafides?
Everyone did-not say this at all, far from it. I, I picked to win in the preseason last year even after they got Jrue & KP (I was right on the money). The people who doubted them, just don’t want to own up to being way off & casuals. All the signs were there, they just got better and better & better each year. Always in the ECF, playing & then losing to the champion GS Warriors, etc. They were knocking on the door for years
Randle is just not a winning player.. you can only get so far with him on your team as one of the main players.. now if he was a sixth man then its not as bad.
The media for Giannis’s whole career “ if only he could shoot threes…” Also, the media “ Victor should play like Giannis” These dudes are gonna twist themselves in knots to find reasons to criticize these pro players.
Ant is the next wave of the league, and it’s obvious. I knew when he had a chance to play in the Olympics along LeBron, Steph & KD he would change & his game would go up another level. He has been playing phenomenally, & I love the aggressive nature of how he is shooting from deep opening up this year. People of course are playing ‘The sky is falling for T-Wolves’ because they are so blind and not realizing this team has new pieces in Randle & Donte. What is not being talked about is, what happens when they figure it out soon. I’ll tell you - Best in the West, easily
id love to hear some more Miami Heat content from folks. far too many mainstream guys just dont spend lengthy time speaking about the Miami Heat and its kinda getting ridiculous. jimmy had a great game and even without Luka, it was a very entertaining, physical, but also intellectual game of basketball that went into OT. Show some more love to the gritty and well-coached Miami Heat is all im saying here. love the pod.
Not only does Randle take the ball out of the hands of Ant, but he does for the whole team. Conley cannot set the table near as well now when he is playing. But even when Mike is healthy, they should be looking for a PG. It could be Conley's last year or 2. I'd be trying to get a Tre Jones, a D'Angelo Russell (again) or Malcolm Brogdon. Someone that they could realistically get & then tell Randle that he needs to move the ball around more. He'll still get his shots with a PG, but this way isn't working.
I watched that entire game. 2nd unit combo guys kept them in that game. Ant looked like he was playing sleepy. He definitely has some ankle and knee injuries. That’s why he shootings those 3’s. I get the fact in numbers why he’s shooting them. But when he goes to the rim that whole team gets going.
The Thunder free throw discrepancy can be explained just by ref's refusing to call hard fouls for Jalen Williams. They don't see him as a star yet, so they let opposing teams batter him around freely. If he was just getting two more of those calls per game, it would be gone, and JDub would be averaging 25ppg.
That’s part of it. The more underlying half of it - J Will is only 6’6 & the Thunder are seriously running him at PF & center.. ? He’s never going to get those calls over bigs, definitely not in the West.. (Jokic, AD, Sabonis, Wemby, Gobert, Randle, Zubac, Gafford, Lively).. ? Uh, never
@@pleasedonttemptme5963he got back to back triple doubles last week pretty sure, he actually kinda solid at 5 just goes both ways obviously can’t impact as hard defensively as chet.
@pleasedonttemptme5963 JDub is almost never guarded by bigs, every team cross matches him because he would torch bigs pushed out to the 3pt line. I'm more talking about guards that frequently hit elbows, forearms, and mid air pushes of JDub that doesn't get called, which happens 5-6x per game and is almost never called for him. Those exact plays are getting called on the other side of the floor, which is where the frustration comes from of OKC.
How can y’all be suprised that Wemby stats are flat he’s played like 8 games this season the last 2 weeks he’s averaged like 30 points 3 blocks 5 threes like cmon
Zion last 2 games he shot 50 and 70 percent from the field. He only played 6 games , to say his finish ability is mediocre based off 6 games is ridiculous. Definitely gotta stay healthy tho but he clearly doesn’t want to be in New Orleans.
I liked the Kat/Randle trade because I thought Randle was just a way to move Naz Reid into the starting lineup, and Randle and Donte can run the second squad, and I don't understand why they made the wolves "Randle's team" instead of relying on the guys they had on the team. Kat was a financial problem, not a skill problem. You needed to move him to resign Naz/NAW. Now he's just ruining your team
I love how Brian uses his blackout as a reason to genuinely not watch games he is paid to talk about. NBA needs to fix that, league pass would be awesome but you can't watch ANY of the good games. Keep throwing shade brother
Why does it feel like that fact that MN needs a major upgrade at the PG position is always ignored?? I mean, I love Mike Connely and definitely respect him but he should be a backup @ this point in his career.
Trading Zion right now is a total loser, nobody would give you anything to work with at this point. They're forced to wait and hope he'll start balling and then make the move.
Or realize after 6 years in the league he's not what they were hoping he'd be and cut ties. The last thing they want is to be on the hook for 45 mill on a guy who's not available
These gab-fests usually just hit four or five topics. If you're gonna get peeved that the headline every show is not "Cavs still look great!"...I mean, ya know, that's not really a juicy topic of discussion? Windy makes sure Cavs corner is regularly covered.
Lol because nothing talk about this a week down yr in east lol they not doing nothing special only 4 teams over 500 so yes good record but not impressive
One big reason. Is Randle plays no defense and most of the times he does not even try. I'm a Knicks fan and watched Randle for many years sprint up the court on offense but walk or jog up the court on defense. So that right there will have your dee take a step back
I watch the whole thing. It was horrible takes after horrible take. You know I'm lying because at this time it was only uploaded 14 minutes ago. Great background for cooking breakfast.
Crazy how the media tries to stir player interests. Because im willing to bet not ONE GM or manager is looking at Zion's contract and saying ",yeah lemme get that". Like if he's hurt at pelicans, a jersey/city swap doesn't make him healthy..50 million a year fir half season and no playoffs, no thanks
No one will respect the cavs until the end of the season. It's because of that market and they don't have a lebron or a steph on the team. It's BS because they are nice.
32:19 is just incorrect information Brian 😂 giannis is attempting 4 shots per game from 15 - 19 ft (up from 1.4 per game) and his hitting them at 52.5% (up from 34%)
If Pels trade Zion, they should trade Ingram too. It's not a good look for the GM who speaks of 'culture first' yet traded high character players like Josh Hart & Dyson Daniels yet clung to stars who don't seem to love basketball. Ultimately it's an NBA problem though because if I were GM, i know I need stars to win yet how do I actually convince a star to care about winning? Modern players don't have to care. The $ is guaranteed. And it really shows. Whenever a bigger contract is on the line (like Ingram this year) all of a sudden they'll care a little more (until they don't have to again). Stars can't even be troubled to stay in shape or refine game. NBA is in the apathy era. It stinks as a fan because i feel embarrassed for even pulling for these guys in the first place. What's worst is NBA won't even acknowledge these flaws. It's like watching the Titanic, fans screaming "look at this iceberg." Yet the commissioner thinks because fans search box scores 80 times a season, the product must be as good as it could be.
2/3 of the population lives east of the Mississippi yet 90% of the coverage is about the Western conference. That's why ratings are down. They've been doing 45 minute episodes when they talk about the eastern conference. Now we have a 70 minute episode because they are talking about the Western conference. People are only given permission to respect a small fraction of teams. A lot of frustration with the game today also is that people are complaining that teams are too similar. But really this is because they are mad they weren't aware of the changes to the game that were happening. If they had been informed, then they could be getting on board with the new changes. But because so much changed when they weren't paying attention, they get rubbed the wrong way by the new game style. They don't understand it and think its foolish when its merely a superior form of competition. The Pacers last year should have been front page news all season yet they the media only begrudgingly acknowledged them. Now that their pace and style is replicated around the league, people don't feel included in this new style because the media didn't do its job of getting people excited for this big change. Instead the media wanted people to ignore or dislike this style and Indiana like they did. If you want to fix ratings, you gotta be more like the NFL where random cities can be focal points for extended periods of time.
Tatum doesn't get this pass y'all giving Anthony Edwards, if Tatum & Anthony Edwards switched places y'all would be tragging Tatum but y'all giving Anthony Edwards a pass talking about the team ect. Anthony Edwards leadership is Overrated & he talks to much. I see that M.J. talk have d!ed down quickly.
They should of part way way before. But they never did and now another team will trade for him and he will play his heart out just to get a big contract again
Zion , herb jones, and one 1st to the sixers for Joel embiid . Sixers then attach two 1st and zion to Paul George and ship him to Detroit for expiring. Sixers start their rebuilt with McCain and maxey . Detroit now has a big 3 in Cade , George , and Zion to compete for a championship
Don’t let bro cook again. Lolllll if I’m the pistons there’s no way I’m taking such a deal. 2 maxed out players that are hurt 70% of the time? Lol no thanks
Dood listening to Bontemps more on this pod. The more he alone alienates viewers. He’s always angry and argumentative. It comes off to viewers as such.
The night NOLA won the draft lottery, I said Zion will be outta here by year 7. No one wants to be there. It’s a football town. We seen this play out with AD. Just is what it is.
@@l.r9655this facts this may seem small but I been saying this since they came up with the name , that name just isn’t a cool name anyone wants to be associated with
I'm sorry, but what are these 'experts' watching if they really thought Minnesota was going to be good. Last year's 50-win season was the aberration. It was Atlanta's ECF run. They're not great, they won't be. Trade Gobert, trade Randle.
We must give Bontemps credit. He was not obsessively over talking his colleagues or just in general monopolizing the discussion. He has great insight in my opinion he just has to relax and let everyone make their points without interference.
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Gobert wasn't wrong. Doesn't matter if a ISO was called for Randle at the three point line, you got a 7'1 dude on a 6'8 defender, literally 1 foot from the basket. Adapt and get the higher percentage shot.
Gobert doesn't have good handles. He mostly fumbles the ball while posting up. It's not a strong part of his game and for years he hasn't been working on his handles.
@@JasonExclusive this I agree; he wants to be the vocal point of the offence but the French bean-pole is there for the Defense and setting a screen and role for any dunk attempt.. haha
@@JasonExclusiveur right if gobert was on the move cuz he has sus coordination but on a post catch he’s actually more effective than people think, he has bad misses but he converts a lot of catches and last year Conley found him in some big moments
@@JasonExclusive For all the defense, rebounding and hustle Gobert does. You have to reward him every once in a while even if its 50% he fumbles. Thats about as good of a seal as you can get.
@@RoyLimisAw3s0me Man averages 6 shots a game as a starter and majority of those are put backs. I wouldnt considering a couple post ups a game a focal point. Reward the man covering for every one else on defense
Kinda absurd to think ESPN analyst can’t even watch teams their paid to analyze due to these idiotic blackouts
Dude he can pirate games like everyone else and does. He probably just doesn't get to watch it live. Also League pass has every game available like the next day no matter the blackout. So he is just making excuses frankly
I agree. I live in Canada on the OTHER SIDE OF THE COUNTRY from the Raptors and their games are blacked out for me across for me at times on my own television.
I stand in solidarity with Gobert. He had to make a point to Randle, about that BS ballhogging.
100000000000%
It wasn't the only time in that game where he was wide open... could have been 4 or 5 other times throughout the game when he sealed his defender. It gets frustrating after a while.
It’s just an adjustment, season just began. Rudy is like the 4th best player (Maybe) he seriously is in no position to demand anything of Randle who is an All NBA player..
Rudy can’t even shoot. Just stick to your job Rudy, crash the glass and defend the paint
@@pleasedonttemptme5963 hate to be the guy, but all the numbers suggest Rudy has the greatest impact on the Wolves. even tho he was clowned last playoffs he had the second best plus minus of the whole western conference. and Rudy Gobert has made the all nba team more times than Randle, and he's had more team success. Safe to say Rudy is doing something right.
Lol he was literally unplayable in the Olympics next to an actual offensively capable big. Bro gets paid for defense and cost his team a W because he wanted to pout on offense. Loser mentality. @@Shortballa11
Castle, Wemby, Vassell, Sochan is a talented crazy line up. With Keldon, Tre Jones, Bassey, Wesley, Branham off the bench. This team is loaded and set up for success for the forseeable future.
How's the weather in San Antonio rn?
Sochan sucks I don't see why people think he's good
A bunch of mediocre guys who don’t have high ceilings I doubt it
Bontemps is underestimating Zion's negative impact on team culture. Zion's situation is the definition of addition by subtraction. The sooner he is out of the organization the better for the Pelicans.
They should have traded him when he looked good and was fit last time, he's bad news
Very true. However, the Pelicans in general are just a terrible organization. They have like zero clue on how to build a team, just sad to see them honestly
@@halfdayofthejackal9372Agree 100% with this. They should’ve capitalized on him a while ago rather than take more risks. As Knicks fan, I was ecstatic that we got rid of Randle while he had enough stock to get a KAT rather than continue risking on an injury prone, mood swinging, regular season All Star that never shows up in the playoffs.
@gnice42 I'm also a Knicks fan and agree wholeheartedly. Knicks built slow and smart, it's the only way.
Pels fan here and I agree with you man. At this point let’s just move on. He’s not the guy that’s going to lead us to the next level. The sooner we rip the bandaid off the better
People were ready to crown Anthony Edwards already. But that trade for Randle… ehhh. Not a fan of his game. As much heat Kat gets, I thought he was a better fit for them and how they run the offense.
Way better fit
I actually don't see Edward's game being all that, his shot is slow and methodical, his handle is weak and all he really does athletically every now and then is dunk but even those aren't anything really cool to see
As a Knick fan I’m happy not to deal with toxic randle🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😂
@@jayarah1046 Its a shame cause when we got OG, he looked much more comfortable in the team and was taking more spot on shots and reducing his ISO plays which is just so inconsistent and wearing on himself.
Hes really trying hard to push his number given he needs to ball out for a new contract
@@AlvarGeesusTheCreator KAT don't do defense which is why T-Wolves got Gobert to do what KAT should be doing LMAO... KAT has a MAX.. Gobert has a MAX.. Ant-Man is next in line for a MAX.. Naz is on a team friendly deal but as a Sixth-Man (he ought to want a new deal that is worthy of his value as a role-player); and T-Wolves were ranked one of the highest in DEFENSE in the whole NBA anyhow last season...
You are a journalist for professional basketball and ESPN; how is it possible that you are locked out from any game?
idiotic TV rules and broadcasting rights. watching professional sports in 2024 is a TERRIBLE EXPERIENCE as a fan.
"He's always home", definite shot haha
They are just upset they keep pushing for more ESPN success and that makes their life worse when he is happy at home making the money he makes now and waiting for a pension
Best hoop pod out
I love watching these videos on youtube now and seeing the looks on your guys faces when you say this stuff. Love the deadpan looks and dry humor and making fun of each other. Never stop boys.
Bontemps is the realist on the pod 😂😂😂
Victor Wembanyama
Stephon Castle
Devin Vassell
Jeremy Sochan
Is our core 4. Everyone else is moveable for right price.
Vassell is a good shooter, but I rlly dont understand the hype. I think he'd be a great trade piece if they have a chance to get a star
How they traded the 8th pick away and didnt draft Matas Buzelis is beyond me
DV might be expendable if he can’t stay healthy. I’m a spurs fan since a kid but DV can’t play then eff him lol
@OLAOnlyLegendzAllowed if we kept the #8 pick we wouldn't of been able to afford Chris Paul, and been able to afford to bring in Harrison Barnes in the Demar to Sac from Chicago deal.
So in reality we traded Rob Dillingham (pick #8 )
For
3 frps
Chris Paul
Harrison Barnes
Victor and Castle are untouchable. Spurs would have to get something really special to move Vassell and/or Sochan, but they could conceivably be moved. For example, wouldn't you trade Vassell for a disgruntled Tyrese Maxi?
Phase 1 was these guys saying "no one will be on this team when the Spurs are good outside of Wemby cause that's what happened with Bron"
Phase 2 was these guys saying "Maybe they keep Vassell and Castle around Wemby but that's it" and throwing a little "Julian Champagnie is nice"
Phase 3 will be these guys realizing that the Spurs are 15 players deep this season for a reason. That Mamu, Bassey, Keldon, Sochan, Tre, Wesley are also part of the core of supporting players. Spurs fans who have been following believe in this team for a reason. We have like 8 young players this season and up to 4 first round picks in this draft. We are coming for the NBA
Why is Bontempts default testy? 😅. Love his input though.
Yes, I get those vibes too...
He’s unbearable, this segment would be far better off without him..
Bontemps is a smart guy with relevant thoughts to contribute most of the time and I appreciate hearing from him. That being said the dude has GOT to chill out a little.
@Huddorenge88 😅😂
Tim Macmahon reminds me of Nick Offerman from “We’re the Millers” 😅😅
Bontemps is that dood that never got picked to play basketball in the park.
I see what they mean about Victor not needing to shoot that many 3 pointers. But the only way he is going to develop every aspect of his game. Is by having in game reps. They are trying him out in different ways. And if he can get alot of 3s up and they are reps for developing. After he has figured it out. Then they will dial him down to 5-7 3pointers a game. He's a unicorn. So they have to play him all over the court.
I can see Windy submitting Tim's annual evaluation to ESPN HR: "Bontempts' approach during the discussion on the New Orleans Pelicans came across as assertive but at times may have unintentionally overshadowed his colleagues. There were moments where his contributions appeared to dismiss alternative perspectives, and he occasionally interrupted others, which might have limited the opportunity for a more balanced exchange of ideas. While his expertise is evident, a more collaborative and inclusive tone could enhance the quality of discussions and foster a more constructive dialogue among the team."
They thought that by trading Anthony Towns for Randle it would been the right choice for the team lmaoo.
Only nba2k noobs thought that
The Warriors have been looking to trade for a second star. That's what Zion is. It may have to wait for the off season though, and I would not be surprised if the Warriors refuse to over pay for a player that is very good but often injured.✌️
It's crazy that the Celtics went from everyone saying they were just lucky last year and that the playoff teams were hurt, so they had a fake title, to now an undefeated Cavs team and a title-contending Wolves team both getting props for just coming close to beating them. When did they get their bonafides?
Everyone did-not say this at all, far from it. I, I picked to win in the preseason last year even after they got Jrue & KP (I was right on the money).
The people who doubted them, just don’t want to own up to being way off & casuals. All the signs were there, they just got better and better & better each year.
Always in the ECF, playing & then losing to the champion GS Warriors, etc. They were knocking on the door for years
Randle is just not a winning player.. you can only get so far with him on your team as one of the main players.. now if he was a sixth man then its not as bad.
Not alot of players better than him on many teams so that's false ,he's a 3rd option but has ability to be a 1st when he's hot
The problem for the Wolves is that Randle should be coming off the bench and Naz should be playing 30 minutes
It’s not just Randle for KAT I think losing Slow Mo and a year older Conley has also affected the team
The Timberwolves chemistry will take time add DiVincenz+Randall playing in the line-up makes a difference as well...
The media for Giannis’s whole career “ if only he could shoot threes…”
Also, the media “ Victor should play like Giannis”
These dudes are gonna twist themselves in knots to find reasons to criticize these pro players.
I bet brian feels like punching bontemps in the face everyday he has to talk to him
I'm just gonna wait here until the crew mentions Sochan when discussing the Spurs' future pieces.
man, bontemps is an acquired taste. his tone when he makes his points... I'm surprised the other two guys put up with him.
Ant is the next wave of the league, and it’s obvious. I knew when he had a chance to play in the Olympics along LeBron, Steph & KD he would change & his game would go up another level.
He has been playing phenomenally, & I love the aggressive nature of how he is shooting from deep opening up this year.
People of course are playing ‘The sky is falling for T-Wolves’ because they are so blind and not realizing this team has new pieces in Randle & Donte.
What is not being talked about is, what happens when they figure it out soon. I’ll tell you - Best in the West, easily
id love to hear some more Miami Heat content from folks. far too many mainstream guys just dont spend lengthy time speaking about the Miami Heat and its kinda getting ridiculous. jimmy had a great game and even without Luka, it was a very entertaining, physical, but also intellectual game of basketball that went into OT. Show some more love to the gritty and well-coached Miami Heat is all im saying here. love the pod.
How ironic is it that a podcast with Tim Bontemps in it is talking about a team with bad chemistry?
Not only does Randle take the ball out of the hands of Ant, but he does for the whole team. Conley cannot set the table near as well now when he is playing. But even when Mike is healthy, they should be looking for a PG. It could be Conley's last year or 2. I'd be trying to get a Tre Jones, a D'Angelo Russell (again) or Malcolm Brogdon. Someone that they could realistically get & then tell Randle that he needs to move the ball around more. He'll still get his shots with a PG, but this way isn't working.
I watched that entire game. 2nd unit combo guys kept them in that game.
Ant looked like he was playing sleepy. He definitely has some ankle and knee injuries. That’s why he shootings those 3’s.
I get the fact in numbers why he’s shooting them. But when he goes to the rim that whole team gets going.
The Thunder free throw discrepancy can be explained just by ref's refusing to call hard fouls for Jalen Williams. They don't see him as a star yet, so they let opposing teams batter him around freely. If he was just getting two more of those calls per game, it would be gone, and JDub would be averaging 25ppg.
That’s part of it. The more underlying half of it - J Will is only 6’6 & the Thunder are seriously running him at PF & center.. ?
He’s never going to get those calls over bigs, definitely not in the West.. (Jokic, AD, Sabonis, Wemby, Gobert, Randle, Zubac, Gafford, Lively).. ? Uh, never
@@pleasedonttemptme5963he got back to back triple doubles last week pretty sure, he actually kinda solid at 5 just goes both ways obviously can’t impact as hard defensively as chet.
@pleasedonttemptme5963 JDub is almost never guarded by bigs, every team cross matches him because he would torch bigs pushed out to the 3pt line. I'm more talking about guards that frequently hit elbows, forearms, and mid air pushes of JDub that doesn't get called, which happens 5-6x per game and is almost never called for him. Those exact plays are getting called on the other side of the floor, which is where the frustration comes from of OKC.
@@Blaze42020 He’s just solid, he’s not a big. Hence why he’s not going to get the calls
@@hestilllives192 When he goes inside, yes he is often challenged by a big. Yes
How can y’all be suprised that Wemby stats are flat he’s played like 8 games this season the last 2 weeks he’s averaged like 30 points 3 blocks 5 threes like cmon
Zion last 2 games he shot 50 and 70 percent from the field. He only played 6 games , to say his finish ability is mediocre based off 6 games is ridiculous. Definitely gotta stay healthy tho but he clearly doesn’t want to be in New Orleans.
😂 no he just doesn't have discipline and love basketball you can tell who he is by his choice of food and women
They should’ve of never traded KAT!! His shooting and spacing of the floor helps them a lot. Randle isn’t gonna do much.
I liked the Kat/Randle trade because I thought Randle was just a way to move Naz Reid into the starting lineup, and Randle and Donte can run the second squad, and I don't understand why they made the wolves "Randle's team" instead of relying on the guys they had on the team. Kat was a financial problem, not a skill problem. You needed to move him to resign Naz/NAW. Now he's just ruining your team
The only GM that would trade for Zion would be one looking to get himself terminated so he could live off his own package
Pels should not tank! If they get their roster healthy then I would expect them to win 80% of their games
I love how Brian uses his blackout as a reason to genuinely not watch games he is paid to talk about. NBA needs to fix that, league pass would be awesome but you can't watch ANY of the good games. Keep throwing shade brother
So Windy not doing his job properly because it would cost him $30 a month to not be blacked out for games? C’mon
Bontemps always on his period. It’s a sports discussion show. Relax buddy.
Good stuff Rudy... Randle pass the ball Rudy had a huge mix match
Why does it feel like that fact that MN needs a major upgrade at the PG position is always ignored?? I mean, I love Mike Connely and definitely respect him but he should be a backup @ this point in his career.
Embiid, Ogden, Yao, Zion, etc. bigs like that who don’t take care of themselves don’t last.
People thought the T-Wolves would be BETTER this year?! My GOD!
Wait can someone elaborate on why brian cant watch more Minnesota games?
Their games are always blacked out
Randle called for the Gobert screen. Why is this ignored?
Naz Reid did get the final shot of, it just did not go in off the rim
Which of the 3 hosts is the most impatient and talks the most over others? Which of the three hosts believes he always knows more than the others?
Castle reminds me of a young Kawhi with much better communication skills.
That's a pretty big reach.
Trading Zion right now is a total loser, nobody would give you anything to work with at this point. They're forced to wait and hope he'll start balling and then make the move.
Or realize after 6 years in the league he's not what they were hoping he'd be and cut ties. The last thing they want is to be on the hook for 45 mill on a guy who's not available
They were just offered the 3rd overall pick, players, and change in April. Getting anything is better than the nothing we getting now.
@@PelicansCourtsideClub source? That sounds incredibly foolish to offer that for Zion.
Well it’s definitely harder to play defense if take 3s instead of 2s and fouls
Love how they hardly talk about the team with the best record in the league smh
These gab-fests usually just hit four or five topics. If you're gonna get peeved that the headline every show is not "Cavs still look great!"...I mean, ya know, that's not really a juicy topic of discussion? Windy makes sure Cavs corner is regularly covered.
Bro did say “love” lol
Was there a live version of this that was available you watched completely?
Lol because nothing talk about this a week down yr in east lol they not doing nothing special only 4 teams over 500 so yes good record but not impressive
Easy topic to cover “yeah they’re so good nobody is even close.” Segment over, that’s why.
One big reason. Is Randle plays no defense and most of the times he does not even try. I'm a Knicks fan and watched Randle for many years sprint up the court on offense but walk or jog up the court on defense. So that right there will have your dee take a step back
I watch the whole thing. It was horrible takes after horrible take. You know I'm lying because at this time it was only uploaded 14 minutes ago. Great background for cooking breakfast.
What's for breakfast? Pancake, egg or egg white, grains, lol I need some ideas
OKC ends every drive with an off arm push off - they create all the contact - SGA is always allowed 2 pivot feet
Really wish the Hawks could go after Gobert.
My guy
I don't wanna hear about Thunder and free throws. Sga is the push off king and gets to the line.
Crazy how the media tries to stir player interests. Because im willing to bet not ONE GM or manager is looking at Zion's contract and saying ",yeah lemme get that". Like if he's hurt at pelicans, a jersey/city swap doesn't make him healthy..50 million a year fir half season and no playoffs, no thanks
He's getting cut after this season
Pretty sure changing jerseys will magically make him better
His contract will be looked at as a big salary cut.
@@damyouboy in the final year sure but what about this season? And the next 2?
NBA talk with no mention of team with best record? 😑
No one will respect the cavs until the end of the season. It's because of that market and they don't have a lebron or a steph on the team. It's BS because they are nice.
@@aczeosI looked up one of their other unrelated points out of curiosity. Cavaliers right down there with OKC on free throw rate 😂
32:19 is just incorrect information Brian 😂 giannis is attempting 4 shots per game from 15 - 19 ft (up from 1.4 per game)
and his hitting them at 52.5% (up from 34%)
At the time of recording
Ah yes. Twolves are getting the Foolius Handle experience. Super talented, but makes low iq plays way too many times.
If Pels trade Zion, they should trade Ingram too. It's not a good look for the GM who speaks of 'culture first' yet traded high character players like Josh Hart & Dyson Daniels yet clung to stars who don't seem to love basketball.
Ultimately it's an NBA problem though because if I were GM, i know I need stars to win yet how do I actually convince a star to care about winning?
Modern players don't have to care. The $ is guaranteed. And it really shows. Whenever a bigger contract is on the line (like Ingram this year) all of a sudden they'll care a little more (until they don't have to again).
Stars can't even be troubled to stay in shape or refine game. NBA is in the apathy era.
It stinks as a fan because i feel embarrassed for even pulling for these guys in the first place. What's worst is NBA won't even acknowledge these flaws. It's like watching the Titanic, fans screaming "look at this iceberg." Yet the commissioner thinks because fans search box scores 80 times a season, the product must be as good as it could be.
Hyped to be the next LeBron James lmao
Don't nobody wants to be lbj
DONT TRY TO MINIMIZE IT WEMBY!! LET HIM SHOOT!!! IT DONT HAVE TO BE 16 A GAME BUT YU HAVE TO ALLOW HIS SHOT TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP/GET BETTER
why is Windy blacked out from the Timberwolves
Capitalism
You guys are jokes. Did Wemby not start off very slow last year? Also, Devin and Jeremy have barely played.
2/3 of the population lives east of the Mississippi yet 90% of the coverage is about the Western conference. That's why ratings are down. They've been doing 45 minute episodes when they talk about the eastern conference. Now we have a 70 minute episode because they are talking about the Western conference. People are only given permission to respect a small fraction of teams.
A lot of frustration with the game today also is that people are complaining that teams are too similar. But really this is because they are mad they weren't aware of the changes to the game that were happening. If they had been informed, then they could be getting on board with the new changes. But because so much changed when they weren't paying attention, they get rubbed the wrong way by the new game style. They don't understand it and think its foolish when its merely a superior form of competition.
The Pacers last year should have been front page news all season yet they the media only begrudgingly acknowledged them. Now that their pace and style is replicated around the league, people don't feel included in this new style because the media didn't do its job of getting people excited for this big change. Instead the media wanted people to ignore or dislike this style and Indiana like they did. If you want to fix ratings, you gotta be more like the NFL where random cities can be focal points for extended periods of time.
Bontemps needs to lay off the Redbull
KAT GIVES EFFORT ON D EVEN THO ITS SUSPECT ,,,RANDLE DNT EVEN HUSTLE ON D
Pels could still trade BI and now i believe hes asded value to himself. Soni couple of good players for BI and maybe they turn it around
26:02 been a lot of edits lately
Ant shooting to many 3s right now
Whoa Whoa Whoa.. MIN’s games are BLACKED OUT for Windy??? YOU COVER THE NBA FOR ESPN AND DON’T HAVE LEAGUE PASS, BRO?! WHAT IS GOIN’ ON????
Let zion go
the pelicans dont deserve flagg man. It's ridiculous that the NBA keeps handing them these 1st overall picks. Let someone else win it
They've only ever had 2 #1 picks
Does bontemps ever not talk
Tatum doesn't get this pass y'all giving Anthony Edwards, if Tatum & Anthony Edwards switched places y'all would be tragging Tatum but y'all giving Anthony Edwards a pass talking about the team ect. Anthony Edwards leadership is Overrated & he talks to much. I see that M.J. talk have d!ed down quickly.
Where tatum plays dictates he doesnt get that pass
I dislike bontemps attitude so much
They should of part way way before. But they never did and now another team will trade for him and he will play his heart out just to get a big contract again
Zion , herb jones, and one 1st to the sixers for Joel embiid . Sixers then attach two 1st and zion to Paul George and ship him to Detroit for expiring. Sixers start their rebuilt with McCain and maxey . Detroit now has a big 3 in Cade , George , and Zion to compete for a championship
😭🤣
Don’t let bro cook again. Lolllll if I’m the pistons there’s no way I’m taking such a deal. 2 maxed out players that are hurt 70% of the time? Lol no thanks
Get ZION out of Louisiana sad part ANGEL REESE did more for this state than Zion will ever do
Cavs Corner?
Donte has been trash on the wolves he's had about 3 good games maybe, and his defense isn't worth talking about either.
Trade embiid for Zion
Dood listening to Bontemps more on this pod. The more he alone alienates viewers. He’s always angry and argumentative. It comes off to viewers as such.
The night NOLA won the draft lottery, I said Zion will be outta here by year 7. No one wants to be there. It’s a football town. We seen this play out with AD. Just is what it is.
What I said , he’ll be gone after the extension , whether by the teams choice or his, gotta be about a year or two left on that deal at best.
No one wants to play for a team called the Pelicans.
They need to move to Seattle
@@l.r9655this facts this may seem small but I been saying this since they came up with the name , that name just isn’t a cool name anyone wants to be associated with
Might change. Cavs getting more coverage, but Browns are pathetic and will remain pathetic with so much money paid to despicable Watson
I'm sorry, but what are these 'experts' watching if they really thought Minnesota was going to be good. Last year's 50-win season was the aberration. It was Atlanta's ECF run. They're not great, they won't be. Trade Gobert, trade Randle.
We must give Bontemps credit. He was not obsessively over talking his colleagues or just in general monopolizing the discussion. He has great insight in my opinion he just has to relax and let everyone make their points without interference.
Area 51 Stephon and Wemby
Omg. Bontemps just cant stand different opinion.
Hell, cant even hear it.
Tim and Tim, the only reason to watch this podcast.🙌
Dont worry some dumb team will give him the max
Should of got rid of Zion years ago
Stop lying Bonptemps. You are a big hater of Wemby.
What is that guys problem? Lol. He was so combative and cringe the whole time.
@@gnomechomsky2524he's never been punched in the face before
This dude talks 3 teams and its the most boring 3 teams
Year 6 n zion still out of shape and hurt