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I would add two more things: trying to break pink ward with Jhin (I know its not adc problem in general) and also that little PTSD shake in your body when Nocturne ults and it doesn´t matter if he is on your or enemy team
@Hati kawaii while ago i went noc bot with friend. Let me tell you I gave enemy adc more than PTSD that whenever i ult, he would flash toward his sup or straight up run toward tower
Once me and my duo were running from a Veigar who combo'd me leaving me with very low HP. I managed to Dash to him (Rakan) and then we vanished in the bushes, the Veigar (who I assume was spamming R) control warded the Bush and ulted my ADC Instead of me, dude was one shot by a ward...
Ah yes, my favorite part abt being an adc: being 7/0 then the lux support on the enemy team one-shotting you with one combo and literally just a blasting wand
16. No engage teams. I utterly despise having to start fights as the caitlyn because my team wanted to play 3 assassins and a yi. 17. First time supports. They always play Thresh, they never hit a hook, they only throw lantern for souls. 18. Dragon. Somehow you can have a 20 kill bot lane and your jg refuses to come near the dragon and the enemy somehow ends up with soul. 19. Mid lane never leaves mid. After I kill bot tower please just let me take mid and stop fighting over cs. 20. Support counterpicks themselves. The enemy bot lane picked morgana ezreal, my support has picked Blitzcrank. 21. The "support." Every ezreal support, lee sin, graves, garen and so on who refuse to just play an actual champ. They will steal kills. I realize now that I have a lot of strong emotions on this god forsaken role.
I had a mord support the other day he took all the kills but then was so scary to the enemy bot lane that i could farm to my hearts content, i also got kills whenever he ulted cause i could win the 1v1 so it was neet. My team was also being really mean to him on champ select and i was like guys chill is y botlane i can make it work, he apppreciated it. sorry for the story time i agree ususally "off meta" supports are a pain in the ass.
More like talon. Kayn isn’t bad since you can see him coming through the wall. Talon however just jumps over the wall goes invisible and one shots you. Kayn actually has a skill shot to hit before he can do something
my first ever encounter with a blue Kayn was two years ago, and I got killed by him under tower (he came out of a wall) in 0.51 seconds. I call that some burst damage. Literally just W and half a Q killed me. Edit: Yes I used to play ADC back then, and yes I was full health
Honestly as a support main I get kind of irritated by the expectation that when playing tank I need to be further ahead than my ADC. While yes, I am supposed to take the brunt of the damage, it DOES NOT mean I need to be suicidal. Especially if we are losing lane. Also, if you are an all in like Leona or Nautilus you need to save some health so you can do your all in. Putting yourself in constant range of enemy poke champs so they can whittle you down isn't smart. It's one of those "damned if do, damned if you don't" moments. So between my ADC raging because they can't farm and raging because I got poked to death in lane, I'll pick the option that doesn't involve the long walk of shame back form fountain. Finally, I also dislike getting pinged from my ADC just because I went to ward dragon pit and they decided to run forward into the two enemy laners with open arms. I am supposed to ward, I HAVE to ward and that means you need to play safe for six seconds every now and then.
Don't forget the adcs who will go int when go to roam and then cry support diff. As a bard main this happens a lot more than I'd like. It's also pretty hard to play against certain lanes as bard, so then I get the whole "why are you not playing aggro" complaint when they have a direct counter, like thresh. Really is a "dammed if you do, dammed if you don't" situation.
@@sauron1414 my comment can also go the other way around. Like Ranged toplaners abusing the bruiser top laner: ggez ADC getting ganked by top laners: wait, that's illegal.
@@tainadeoliveira Yeah. You're supposed to let your AD farm mid, especially if it's someone like Caitlyn, and the two solo lanes clear side lanes in most cases. Ideally anyway. Never works that way. Support roaming between the three and warding.
@@timothyjames6684 in low elo they all farm midlane and then they are mad cause they have no gold, and when u go sidelane they flame u for not beeing with the team :D
And then there's part about no room for mistakes. A week ago I was a 6-slot hyperfed Kai'sa with ability to kill entire enemy team in, like, 5 seconds but then I overextended on Baron contest, got evaporated in a blink of an eye and singlehandedly lost the game. It was the most shameful quadruple honor of my life.
As a support, warding the same bush as my ADC feels just as bad. Maybe worse, since there's the weight of you invalidating the work of one of the few ADCs who actually ward
Don't forget them picking Pyke, missing every hook under the sun, stealing every single kill then saying peace out as soon as shit hits the fan and ignoring you the entire game. I swear to God, if I'm playing ADC, I don't ban Pyke just because I hate playing against him. I ban him because I don't want a pyke support. Ever.
Best ADC tip I can give as a former ADC main: Stop playing ADC. I now main Yone, go 0/3 in lane, get 3 items and 1v4 the fed enemy team and getting out with full health. Totally balanced...
it's the issues of the "oneshot" sentence way too much used. One shot means litteraly ONE SHOT. One attack or one ability killing you while you were full. Or we can accept, dying with more than 1 attack or spell but only if it's really quick. Less than 1 sec. Kind of annoying the overuse of "oneshot"
Here's some things that would definitely deserve a spot on this list. 1: Having to rely on your team to do anything because of your champ's lack of utility/defensive tools 2: Having to learn how to deal with a lot of off-meta picks because everyone thinks playing off-role champions with synergy on bot is the coolest thing ever 3: Getting outdamaged by anyone with high base damage on their abilities even though you're supposed to be the person with the most damage 4: Having to be present for every single skirmish and fight or risk having your team kill themselves by fighting without you
Also using lux as a kill example was pretty weird considering supports like lux, swain, seraphine and pyke all get just as much value fromkills as an adc.
yeah totally a kit with no mobility, and so squishy even walking in slightly is certain death well at least us phel mains have aoe infernum and hard cc gravitum huh
@@hqhuy931 the only way to escape btw, its sad but it makes the phel gameplay as hard as he is to learn and execute properly, it kinda makes him even more interesting. its like, you do step once in the wrong direction: boom ya dead
@@kevinteixeira2071 some might say his kit is overloaded, but it's like saying udyr's kit is. His power is now largely in the macro and positioning of the player - which makes him balanced
One thing I want to mention about not coming back is I've had a lot of games where I should be done back but top and mid steals all my kills and wonders why I'm 2/9
my favorite part of being an adc is getting auto filled and having none of your laneing skills translate into other lanes while anyone can transfer from mid to top or jung to mid or top to supp and they can do fine.
Omg felt this! Like how do you trade in lane on champs? And not perma-freeze? XD I play mid sometimes and I swear I look so insecure, but it's just that I've been maining ADC for three years (since I started playing).
as an adc main , i can confirm that it kinda literally is no room to 1 error , and every time i play adc with my friends , i tell them : jgl is in drake if a kill 1 more minion im dead no matter what i do
on attack move: "Yeah it's a nice skill to have when playing other champs like Kayle, but for the most part only adc mains have to really mess around with it." Me - a Riven main - : "Am I a joke to you?"
As a support player, I have made it my sole mission to learn wave management, positioning and doing everything I can to help the Adc live. We all hate bad adcs and supports, so lets make sure we ourselves arent one😂
Having a support that can't land a skillshot on a target that is literally not moving and then getting mad at you for not focusing the right people. Like dude you land like 1/4 of your hooks and when you do land them it's their top laner
dude if i had a penny for every time im at 30 hp and my hook support lands his one hook in the game just to bring a full health enemy closes to my squishy booty, id be able to afford mf's ultimate skin.
as a Twitch main and a camouflage brother, accept your apologies. we both need to win so please, let me kill your support other 3 times and then I must apologize 🙂
@@detheccus1132 it really depends on the champion. If you are not a hyper carry adc like Vayne then yeah, it's pretty likely you will be irrelevant for the rest of the game. If you are a Vayne, Tristana or Kai'sa, getting a single shut down, levels and keep good farm can be enough for you to comeback. We've all seen a 0/10 Vayne become a 20/10 Vayne because you or your team gave her free kills in a random fight. I've also been that Vayne, who was like 2/7 but got a shut down from the enemy adc, kept farming, which then resulted in a random pentakill at baron I think the same can apply to other lanes. Some champions do better at comebacks than others. Some champions are always relevant because of their late game scaling and utility, like Seraphine.
@@tainadeoliveira senna is one of this champs, thats why i love her... but when u play solo and ur sup does not know how "fasting" senna works u just doomed :D
Yesterday I got legit 4 man camped on bot lane. Literally. And my team didn't even tickle the enemy tower or jungle monsters while the enemy was constantly making me base at 1 hp. Playing adc is so fun :) Also, you failed to mention the jungler's bad timing to gank and ask for help in dragon while the lane has no prio
Dude i told a jungle that we couldn't contest drake because neither mid nor bot had prio and he replied with "dragon is prio" like do this people even play the same game as us. I feel like as adc we need to look into so many concepts to not suck and then there are the other roles where you can get by on micro and impact the game without having to learn encyclopedic knowledge on bullshit.
The warding at the same time as your support is hilarious. I had an opportunity to actually play with an AMAZING support but so many times were we walking together and without even talking just dropping a ward at the exact same time in the same spot
Being 9-0 and one shoting the enemy frontline. Having a support whom you get along with. Non-carry jungle taxing a massive wave when there's nothing to fight for botside and you're 30 cs behind
What about having to play vs a leona? I'm not an adc main but i do know 1 thing... If you catch leona's E ur gonna stay stunned for another 5 years. Which is a guaranteed death and the leona still walks out with full HP. XD
I'm a top main but i play support from time to time. Usually with a friend. Leona is my go to. And yes you can 1v1 the adc but not jist in the early game you can literally kill them whenever you feel like it xD
well let's face it most adcs love to sit on 2 wards while their support roams, they also love ? pinging skill shot supports while not having a skill shot champ in their pool. and standing behind a minion so they don't eat a skill shot is out of fashion in their brains. there are great adcs that follow up on catches, hide behind minions and use their wards but they are rare.
@@benistcreative eh you can't generalize an entire role by just playing normals. It's totally different from ranked where people are not try harding in their games to win like their lives depended on it. If you get into an enough high rank, then you won't be able to see those mistakes made by an adc anymore. But it is true that the people who play adcs in normal games are fucking terrible.
One time I got a support Diana (Who went 2/15 btw) and every time I go to get cs my support always steals it so I got 90 cs on 18 mins and she always uses their R on the freaking minion wave😧, like wtf.
Is is acrually cool that you made this video, because a lot of my friends bully me sometimes because I am an adc main. Every time they give bad argument and I always the answer with the same arguments, some of them are in this video. So it is good that this video can tell the basics and logic things to valorise my main rôle
All of this, except for the kill thing. That doesn't really bother me because a lot of times it leads to objectives, as long as you get kill participation, you're putting in the work you need to.
Also, farm is life. Sometimes you even get tower plates, which if you get 4 shared, is akin to a kill that doesn't raise your KDA. Though it does raise some other stat (kill conversion!)
300 gold is worth a LOT less than one wave denied to the enemy adc. Who gets the kills barely matters, if the enemy adc misses farm and exp. Yes, if the adc can get the kill is better, but in somewhat close fights, or if I'm not sure if the enemy adc has flash up or cooldows to get away, or if idk if the enemy jungler can come to clean us up, I don't even think about leaving the kill. I'll take it and there's no questions asked
@@jems3732 just take them. If your adc starts pinging/flaming you for it, mute them. It's better to steal the kills than let them get away with stupid shit because your adc forgot to auto once. Let me tell you as someone with decent experience on Kaisa, I tried her after a long while of not touching adc and cancelled like 10 autos in 1 fight and just begged to god someone on the team would ignite the enemy and end my incompetent scrambling
This is something dopa mentioned before, the most mentally demanding role is the jungler, the most skill demanding is the adc, and it is mid which needs half of each
And the part where you take a kill before 10 min and right-click penta at 30 min I mean yeah it's a hard role but it's a broken role if you think of it well
The only thing I can think of that you forgot is that there are like 8 champions in the adc class and 6 of them play the same and top has liek 30 bruisers and 23 tanks
In my opinion adc is not the most meta dominated role, whenever i play a non meta adc i fee like i can still do stuff cause I’m ranged, i kind at least kind of cs. Top lane feels much more meta dominated. If you’re playing aatrox and they choose fiora there is absolutely nothing you can do, they get a guaranteed win. If you choose a tank they... pick fiora again because she has true damage based off of your health off of her passive. If you pick a ranged. They pick aatrox or malph and fuck you up, not a whole lot you can do if they counter pick you. Just my thoughts, though.
Thats counter picking. Meta wise u can still win even if u pick a A or B tier pick against an S tier pick if u play well in top lane whereas in bot, A or below is trash when compared to S no matter how u look at it.
actually no, if you are an adc main who's above plat, you most likely will be rotating between left clicking, pressing the aa button every 0.3 seconds.
Whats funny is when the adc says i took there kill when i burned flash and q power courd on sona to kill an overconfident enemy that the adc could not have killed
As a main supp, that "support roaming" clip of ezreal where the morgana support is getting a kill mid, while ezreal without flash up is pushing bot alone against Twitch/Alistar, with 0 vision of the river despite having 2 wards in inventory, to get 2 ranged minions when his massive wave is already crashing under tower, giving him a perfect reset... TRIGGERING. The worst feeling as an ADC or watching an ADC is that, greeding for 16 gold, giving the ennemy team 450.
Okay, in regards to supports stealing kills, it's forgiveable in three situations. 1: They were using a primarily CC ability and underestimated my damage (cant tell you how many kills I've accudentally stolen with my E as blitzcrank when i was trying to secure the kill for ADC). 2: They used ignite to keep them from getting away and the burn damage killed them. 3: they are playing pyke and they give you your cut, G.
as a support player. both poke and engage. Just because i land a hook as pyke, or a w as rakan. Or a senna W doesn’t mean i want to go in. I am just trying to poke more aggressively. I’ll ping when i want you to fight
Honorable mention: iteming Immortal Shieldbow cause u thought their shyvana was going full ap and now you can't even damage her. Also fun fact, Illaoi's tentacles dances with her
4:36 if your thresh is playing behind the adc its so he can save you with his lantren(or does not have flash up to use right after his w to make it so that u can escape
As a support main, I keep attacking when they are low because if I get gold sooner, then I can get my cheap items faster and be of more use. Especially since support items are always under 3000. Gold is the best thing you can give the role that can be 5/6 items by 10k gold.
My favorite part as a supp is that i have to learn to play with engage, mage and encharter supports I mean... i'm not playing the supp but i have to learn to play with them
A fed katarina can only get more fed because she feeds on the poor ambitions of an ADC. Doesn't even have to be in her lane for the rest of the game honestly
So I played fill, and I got ADC... I played Draven and got a Morgana... she didn't land ANY skill shots, and when she did, I was either low health or low mana, and couldn't do anything.... THEN ON TOP OF THAT, SHE STOLL MY CS THE WHOLE TIME.... I had over 50 cs... SHE HAD MORE THAN ME... I main support, and that hurts me
5:41 - Complains about support roaming Is playing the most self sufficient ADC in the game Dies due to lack of vision with 2 wards in inventory Things only ADC mains will understand XD
Tips for ADCs: 1. DON'T PLAY ADC 2.Play with friends so you can get reliable teammates. 3.ALWAYS hug the tower if your supp is down or recalled, if the tower is in low health RUN 4. Build atleast two semi defensive items (trinity, guardian shield or even lifesteal items) 5. Don't trust your teammates (that much) they might troll or tilt so be careful 6. Don't roam alone (thats really obvious but we always do this for some reason) 7. It's better to main more roles than ADCs because adc is in high demand everyone loves to be kaisa 8. Take defined risks, if your setter supp made a cc try to take control 9. Here's a really good tip, if your in the bottom and didn't do have any damage because your underfed, try supporting. Yeah I've tried it, if you don't participate in 1v1 and always goes with someone then you have a tiny bit more chance to win. Build doesn't matter tbh.
about that attack move, i bound mine to a side mousebutton and it is so more comfortable than the a key(because you can allways have your other fingers on q w e)
For some reason this role has been relevant during all professional metas. ADC's are very strong (OP AF if played right) Yeah sure, your silver 2 ashe who can't kite eventhough ashe has a passive and 2 abilities that enable her to be a kite godess can't kite a cc-less melee like shyvanna while a diamond+ kog'maw with very little self peel can kite and melt whole enemy teams within 5 seconds... Assasins? if they miss their engage or get cc'd by a peeler and the ADC engages they're pretty much dead within a second, if ADCs melt talks I don't want to tell you what they do to the squishier classes
One more: getting al kills steal from your teammates and then getting blamed for not doing damage when you are really late on your build for lack of gold
@@Robertohr18 Ofcourse, but in most games it will take a while for an ADC to get 10 kills, and by that time it will be the difference between 4 and 5 items, which is big, but not as big as 0 and 1 item @Nicolás That is true, but Draven is the exception, his kit is designed around snowballing. But even Draven only gets more gold from kills by farming, he still has to farm
If you go into settings and turn off "enable missile line display" the your skills will show their range the same way as your basic attack range. You do lose seeing thw width of the skill though, but I did this a found out that lux q goes a bit beyond the range it shows - overall making it easier to land your skills on immobilised targets from max range.
For the "Support taking your kills" part, I kinda disagree. Like yes, I'm a support and ADC should be getting kills, but then the ADC doesn't manage to finish them off or even worse, dies, and it's the supports fault for not helping out. At the end of the day, it's an endless cycle.
ADC main: not getting kills is frustrating, but I try to always frame it to myself, that I just have to execute them (somethink like last hitting champions). But also, nah, I am not as irritated at support getting kills as long as they don't hurt my abilitie to farm.
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someones gotta play the role, thanks for taking one for the team
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Join the support gang we are basically adcs but better
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I would add two more things: trying to break pink ward with Jhin (I know its not adc problem in general) and also that little PTSD shake in your body when Nocturne ults and it doesn´t matter if he is on your or enemy team
every time I hear his damn voice I just run at my teammates,then I remember that he's on my team
And somehow every bush you hide in is warded
Ah yes, that game where my friend tried out nocturne, and when he ulted all he could hear is "a summoner has disconnected"
Yeah It was me.
@Hati kawaii while ago i went noc bot with friend. Let me tell you I gave enemy adc more than PTSD that whenever i ult, he would flash toward his sup or straight up run toward tower
i can relate ;-;
My favorite part about being an ADC is getting one shot by the enemy wards
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I feel u
It's not a ward just teemo looking like ward
Once me and my duo were running from a Veigar who combo'd me leaving me with very low HP. I managed to Dash to him (Rakan) and then we vanished in the bushes, the Veigar (who I assume was spamming R) control warded the Bush and ulted my ADC Instead of me, dude was one shot by a ward...
Surprised there wasn't a point just called Blitzcrank
Or Morgana
1. Pick Sivir
2. Press E
3. ???
4. Profit
As a sweaty blitzcrank main I can confirm enemy adcs hate me xD
Or Leona.
I mean both the junglers and midlaners hate blitzcrank, since he can grab you whenever you're ganking.
ADC aka After Death, Cry - this meme was made by the grey screen gang
"Assassins"
*Shows a clip of Leona*
... Yeah I guess you're right.
to be fair, leona is like an assassin to adcs, just really tanky, low damage assassins that cc you to death
@@adambryant4976 diana is the same but with more damage
@@blacknoodles1103 diana straight up just tps to you and 1 shots you tho
*adc farming alone*
Literally everyone even enemy support: i love free food
The enemy nautilus: "and you look like sea food..."
Ah yes, my favorite part abt being an adc: being 7/0 then the lux support on the enemy team one-shotting you with one combo and literally just a blasting wand
16. No engage teams. I utterly despise having to start fights as the caitlyn because my team wanted to play 3 assassins and a yi.
17. First time supports. They always play Thresh, they never hit a hook, they only throw lantern for souls.
18. Dragon. Somehow you can have a 20 kill bot lane and your jg refuses to come near the dragon and the enemy somehow ends up with soul.
19. Mid lane never leaves mid. After I kill bot tower please just let me take mid and stop fighting over cs.
20. Support counterpicks themselves. The enemy bot lane picked morgana ezreal, my support has picked Blitzcrank.
21. The "support." Every ezreal support, lee sin, graves, garen and so on who refuse to just play an actual champ. They will steal kills.
I realize now that I have a lot of strong emotions on this god forsaken role.
I had a mord support the other day he took all the kills but then was so scary to the enemy bot lane that i could farm to my hearts content, i also got kills whenever he ulted cause i could win the 1v1 so it was neet. My team was also being really mean to him on champ select and i was like guys chill is y botlane i can make it work, he apppreciated it. sorry for the story time i agree ususally "off meta" supports are a pain in the ass.
There should be an entire section called 'Blue Kayn'.
More like talon. Kayn isn’t bad since you can see him coming through the wall. Talon however just jumps over the wall goes invisible and one shots you. Kayn actually has a skill shot to hit before he can do something
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As i left the ADC role this season, I ironically became a Kayn and Rhaast main.
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my first ever encounter with a blue Kayn was two years ago, and I got killed by him under tower (he came out of a wall) in 0.51 seconds. I call that some burst damage. Literally just W and half a Q killed me.
Edit: Yes I used to play ADC back then, and yes I was full health
Honestly as a support main I get kind of irritated by the expectation that when playing tank I need to be further ahead than my ADC. While yes, I am supposed to take the brunt of the damage, it DOES NOT mean I need to be suicidal. Especially if we are losing lane.
Also, if you are an all in like Leona or Nautilus you need to save some health so you can do your all in. Putting yourself in constant range of enemy poke champs so they can whittle you down isn't smart. It's one of those "damned if do, damned if you don't" moments. So between my ADC raging because they can't farm and raging because I got poked to death in lane, I'll pick the option that doesn't involve the long walk of shame back form fountain.
Finally, I also dislike getting pinged from my ADC just because I went to ward dragon pit and they decided to run forward into the two enemy laners with open arms. I am supposed to ward, I HAVE to ward and that means you need to play safe for six seconds every now and then.
Thank you
Don't forget that sometimes we don't always want the adc to follow up when we attack. Sometimes we do it to bait out summoner spells or just to poke.
@@X33Ultras0und sometimes I just want my supports to not commit to the fight when we already got a lot from the trade.
Bot lane dynamics are hard
Don't forget the adcs who will go int when go to roam and then cry support diff. As a bard main this happens a lot more than I'd like. It's also pretty hard to play against certain lanes as bard, so then I get the whole "why are you not playing aggro" complaint when they have a direct counter, like thresh. Really is a "dammed if you do, dammed if you don't" situation.
@@tainadeoliveira maybe try pinging more, I put the retreat ping to alt+MB1 so I can quickly say fall back.
Top lane champs ganking and destroying the adc on bot lane: ggez
Top laners getting matched with Vayne, Kalista etc.: wait, that's illegal
There’s a difference between tping bot to secure kills and being a cancer that sits top abusing your range.
@@sauron1414 my comment can also go the other way around. Like
Ranged toplaners abusing the bruiser top laner: ggez
ADC getting ganked by top laners: wait, that's illegal.
@@francheese9329 The Vayne in top isn't the team's adc, it's the toplaner xD. You could cry if the enemy MF came to help Vayne
I mean ranged top laners
@@francheese9329 Gnar with his 180 range lvl early game or Urgot with his 350 ranged that gets outranged by every ability? Urgh adc mains man.
Team engaging in a fight only when you go to farm a side lane.
? ? ? Sounds
They don't even let youfarm mid lane with your support in order to rotate faster
@@tainadeoliveira Yeah. You're supposed to let your AD farm mid, especially if it's someone like Caitlyn, and the two solo lanes clear side lanes in most cases. Ideally anyway. Never works that way. Support roaming between the three and warding.
This o my god
@@timothyjames6684 in low elo they all farm midlane and then they are mad cause they have no gold, and when u go sidelane they flame u for not beeing with the team :D
You missed the part when adc´s actually get fed and then they go 1v5 expecting to win
*1v2 under tower
And then there's part about no room for mistakes. A week ago I was a 6-slot hyperfed Kai'sa with ability to kill entire enemy team in, like, 5 seconds but then I overextended on Baron contest, got evaporated in a blink of an eye and singlehandedly lost the game. It was the most shameful quadruple honor of my life.
@@pa_3op that hits way too close to home... in super late game you know that any time you die you may have just lost the game for your entire team.
As a support, warding the same bush as my ADC feels just as bad. Maybe worse, since there's the weight of you invalidating the work of one of the few ADCs who actually ward
Similar, but hey at least the enemy has to clear 2 wards before they can hide
Best thing ever is a tactical double pink ward. Also don't adc players normally ward?
@@leosippola5874 good ones do, but my teamates usually dont
You missed one KEY thing that adc mains have to deal with. The autofilled support who plays like they've never operated a champion before.
Thats true for both roles
@@Alvah37 yeah, but a support with autofilled adc can roam, while an adc eith autofilled sup can only cry
@@alinosalan8728 your adc would report you sadly
Don't forget them picking Pyke, missing every hook under the sun, stealing every single kill then saying peace out as soon as shit hits the fan and ignoring you the entire game. I swear to God, if I'm playing ADC, I don't ban Pyke just because I hate playing against him. I ban him because I don't want a pyke support. Ever.
the OK ARAM BOT SIDE moments where the to adcs cry praying just to cs
cs in ARAM is always free real-estate, even if theres a Nasus on your team trying to stack
That’s mid lane bro
Is it me or when I play adc I have less cs than when I play any other lane
@@jackiepooh6664 nah thtats just when drag is up
Thank you for this, as a support player I appreciate the feedback and will try to make your ADC experience at least a little bit better. :D
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Don't take turret plating gold and help us push when we are low or when the wave is not in a good spot or when we have to buy will be a HUGE help!
Same
I miss the point where "the out of position enemy Garen is getting caught by your team but decides to flash ult you."
Best ADC tip I can give as a former ADC main: Stop playing ADC. I now main Yone, go 0/3 in lane, get 3 items and 1v4 the fed enemy team and getting out with full health. Totally balanced...
i see u never played against a fed neeko in ur games :D
@@anadonner4685 have u seen a yone in a match once?
As an adc main, i train myself to not feel pain. I practice to play with no error and be relivent where ever i am
But i felt this deeply
You're not alone
Forgot about when you do amazing yet your top lane feeds their brains out...
my husband is sup main, and i play mid/adc with him... we win the lane and then there is that 27/3 darius on the enemy team .... yeah gg go next :D
@Hati kawaii yeah, it’s a rough life man. The role is only good in team play, in solo queue you need to have the damn stars align fr fr
@@anadonner4685 too many times 😔
8:32 getting hooked into league in general was my greatest mistake
Ha
Not if you are a 10/2 darius
“Getting one shot” showing us clips of people low as ad
it's the issues of the "oneshot" sentence way too much used.
One shot means litteraly ONE SHOT. One attack or one ability killing you while you were full.
Or we can accept, dying with more than 1 attack or spell but only if it's really quick. Less than 1 sec.
Kind of annoying the overuse of "oneshot"
Here's some things that would definitely deserve a spot on this list.
1: Having to rely on your team to do anything because of your champ's lack of utility/defensive tools
2: Having to learn how to deal with a lot of off-meta picks because everyone thinks playing off-role champions with synergy on bot is the coolest thing ever
3: Getting outdamaged by anyone with high base damage on their abilities even though you're supposed to be the person with the most damage
4: Having to be present for every single skirmish and fight or risk having your team kill themselves by fighting without you
Also having to facecheck whenever your team doesn't know how to play macro correctly
Also using lux as a kill example was pretty weird considering supports like lux, swain, seraphine and pyke all get just as much value fromkills as an adc.
I missed the "doing zero damage because ninja tabi exist"
now it's "doing zero damage because plated steelcaps exist"
RIP ninja tabi
As an Aphelios main, i felt everyone of these 15 things more painfully
yeah totally a kit with no mobility, and so squishy even walking in slightly is certain death
well at least us phel mains have aoe infernum and hard cc gravitum huh
@@hqhuy931 the only way to escape btw, its sad but it makes the phel gameplay as hard as he is to learn and execute properly, it kinda makes him even more interesting. its like, you do step once in the wrong direction: boom ya dead
@@kevinteixeira2071 some might say his kit is overloaded, but it's like saying udyr's kit is. His power is now largely in the macro and positioning of the player - which makes him balanced
@@hqhuy931 Expect for late game, he has 30 different shields up
I can Understand you
One thing I want to mention about not coming back is I've had a lot of games where I should be done back but top and mid steals all my kills and wonders why I'm 2/9
No body likes Zed in general
Me a Zed main : so that is why
What about Kayn Mains, we love Zed, he's our Master.
my favorite part of being an adc is getting auto filled and having none of your laneing skills translate into other lanes while anyone can transfer from mid to top or jung to mid or top to supp and they can do fine.
thats so true. If I get autofilled my premades always tell me that my adc side is showing if I play other lanes
This is really relatable. I play like a bitch from all the adc ptsd lol
Omg felt this! Like how do you trade in lane on champs? And not perma-freeze? XD
I play mid sometimes and I swear I look so insecure, but it's just that I've been maining ADC for three years (since I started playing).
Outside joke be Like: im playing on both Sides, so that i Always come Out on top
That's why he's a TOP main
@@asmodeus2695 Yeah
Having to lane against Zyra, Brand and Lux
Lux.. ew
And shaco
4:50
If you let your ADC die first then it’s not called a ks 😎
as an adc main , i can confirm that it kinda literally is no room to 1 error , and every time i play adc with my friends , i tell them : jgl is in drake if a kill 1 more minion im dead no matter what i do
on attack move: "Yeah it's a nice skill to have when playing other champs like Kayle, but for the most part only adc mains have to really mess around with it."
Me - a Riven main - : "Am I a joke to you?"
This is true haha the q auto cancels
yes
As a support player, I have made it my sole mission to learn wave management, positioning and doing everything I can to help the Adc live. We all hate bad adcs and supports, so lets make sure we ourselves arent one😂
I am definitively not a bad adc or suport. Mainly bc im not adc or support, but thats just details
Having a support that can't land a skillshot on a target that is literally not moving and then getting mad at you for not focusing the right people. Like dude you land like 1/4 of your hooks and when you do land them it's their top laner
dude if i had a penny for every time im at 30 hp and my hook support lands his one hook in the game just to bring a full health enemy closes to my squishy booty, id be able to afford mf's ultimate skin.
As a rengar main, i apologize to the people who understand these.
I dodge every time i see one of y'all
as a Twitch main and a camouflage brother, accept your apologies. we both need to win so please, let me kill your support other 3 times and then I must apologize 🙂
6:15 - and the way the game is right now, if you screw up once, its probably going to destroy your entire game
and the it is hard to comeback part could be applied to any role really
@@sasatofe7707 Not really, if you go 0/2 on bot lane it's pretty much over for you, but a 0/2 top lane can still do some work on their own lane
@@detheccus1132 it really depends on the champion. If you are not a hyper carry adc like Vayne then yeah, it's pretty likely you will be irrelevant for the rest of the game. If you are a Vayne, Tristana or Kai'sa, getting a single shut down, levels and keep good farm can be enough for you to comeback. We've all seen a 0/10 Vayne become a 20/10 Vayne because you or your team gave her free kills in a random fight. I've also been that Vayne, who was like 2/7 but got a shut down from the enemy adc, kept farming, which then resulted in a random pentakill at baron
I think the same can apply to other lanes. Some champions do better at comebacks than others. Some champions are always relevant because of their late game scaling and utility, like Seraphine.
@@sasatofe7707 not if u are top or mid... u just go bot and farm up some kills :D :D :D
@@tainadeoliveira senna is one of this champs, thats why i love her... but when u play solo and ur sup does not know how "fasting" senna works u just doomed :D
man I just remembered how many times a freaking Alistar can 1v1 me and kill me even though he missed two abilities
how tf do you miss 2 abilities on ali lmao
@@SakuraIsAss ask my opponent
Yesterday I got legit 4 man camped on bot lane. Literally. And my team didn't even tickle the enemy tower or jungle monsters while the enemy was constantly making me base at 1 hp.
Playing adc is so fun :)
Also, you failed to mention the jungler's bad timing to gank and ask for help in dragon while the lane has no prio
Dude i told a jungle that we couldn't contest drake because neither mid nor bot had prio and he replied with "dragon is prio" like do this people even play the same game as us. I feel like as adc we need to look into so many concepts to not suck and then there are the other roles where you can get by on micro and impact the game without having to learn encyclopedic knowledge on bullshit.
The warding at the same time as your support is hilarious. I had an opportunity to actually play with an AMAZING support but so many times were we walking together and without even talking just dropping a ward at the exact same time in the same spot
its an moment of awkawdness
Things u NEED TO UNDERSTAND as a Role?
Being 9-0 and one shoting the enemy frontline.
Having a support whom you get along with.
Non-carry jungle taxing a massive wave when there's nothing to fight for botside and you're 30 cs behind
"Always Being the first target of the enemy team"...And that, guys, is why I use you all as a meat shield...
I have 280K mastery points on Kai'sa(and 5 skins).
And my go to ADC is Ahri.
That's how bad marksmen are this season.
Its actually easier to play support as an adc main, because you know what an adc wants
Playing ADC*
Losing 1 CS, lose cannon, got killed by enemy Sp, Jg didn't gank, mid didn't roam, top didn't teleport=Tilted potential
“Supports stealing kills”
Pyke mains: *Heavy Breathing*
Our kills.
*breaths in communism*
@@Peck콕콕이 LMFAO
What about having to play vs a leona?
I'm not an adc main but i do know 1 thing... If you catch leona's E ur gonna stay stunned for another 5 years. Which is a guaranteed death and the leona still walks out with full HP. XD
That's the reason I main Leona.
I love that you can even 1v1 them at the early stages of the game because of how much tankiness her w gives you.
I'm a top main but i play support from time to time. Usually with a friend. Leona is my go to. And yes you can 1v1 the adc but not jist in the early game you can literally kill them whenever you feel like it xD
well let's face it most adcs love to sit on 2 wards while their support roams, they also love ? pinging skill shot supports while not having a skill shot champ in their pool. and standing behind a minion so they don't eat a skill shot is out of fashion in their brains. there are great adcs that follow up on catches, hide behind minions and use their wards but they are rare.
judging on what you call as "most adcs", I can guess where your rank probably is
@@Peck콕콕이 true but I don't play any ranked, it's just normals
@@benistcreative eh you can't generalize an entire role by just playing normals. It's totally different from ranked where people are not try harding in their games to win like their lives depended on it. If you get into an enough high rank, then you won't be able to see those mistakes made by an adc anymore. But it is true that the people who play adcs in normal games are fucking terrible.
@@Peck콕콕이 that's nice to hear thanks for the info
As a wise man once said: "League of Legends has two game modes, MOBA and ADC, the latter is the survival horror mode."
One time I got a support Diana (Who went 2/15 btw) and every time I go to get cs my support always steals it so I got 90 cs on 18 mins and she always uses their R on the freaking minion wave😧, like wtf.
Is is acrually cool that you made this video, because a lot of my friends bully me sometimes because I am an adc main. Every time they give bad argument and I always the answer with the same arguments, some of them are in this video. So it is good that this video can tell the basics and logic things to valorise my main rôle
4:33 when you play with something like leona or Nautilus they should be on same line as you or some behind, but not that much like this alistar
All of this, except for the kill thing. That doesn't really bother me because a lot of times it leads to objectives, as long as you get kill participation, you're putting in the work you need to.
Also, farm is life. Sometimes you even get tower plates, which if you get 4 shared, is akin to a kill that doesn't raise your KDA. Though it does raise some other stat (kill conversion!)
Hey support here I only secure the kills because my adc never secures the kill even when I leave them at 10 hp
there is nothing worse than when they get out with 10hp because you didn't want to steal the kill.. the pain :(.
300 gold is worth a LOT less than one wave denied to the enemy adc. Who gets the kills barely matters, if the enemy adc misses farm and exp. Yes, if the adc can get the kill is better, but in somewhat close fights, or if I'm not sure if the enemy adc has flash up or cooldows to get away, or if idk if the enemy jungler can come to clean us up, I don't even think about leaving the kill. I'll take it and there's no questions asked
@@jems3732 just take them. If your adc starts pinging/flaming you for it, mute them. It's better to steal the kills than let them get away with stupid shit because your adc forgot to auto once. Let me tell you as someone with decent experience on Kaisa, I tried her after a long while of not touching adc and cancelled like 10 autos in 1 fight and just begged to god someone on the team would ignite the enemy and end my incompetent scrambling
This is something dopa mentioned before, the most mentally demanding role is the jungler, the most skill demanding is the adc, and it is mid which needs half of each
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And the part where you take a kill before 10 min and right-click penta at 30 min I mean yeah it's a hard role but it's a broken role if you think of it well
The only thing I can think of that you forgot is that there are like 8 champions in the adc class and 6 of them play the same and top has liek 30 bruisers and 23 tanks
Last time I checked there are many more than 8 adcs
The reason I secure kills as support is because too many adc’s fall short too many times.
In my opinion adc is not the most meta dominated role, whenever i play a non meta adc i fee like i can still do stuff cause I’m ranged, i kind at least kind of cs. Top lane feels much more meta dominated. If you’re playing aatrox and they choose fiora there is absolutely nothing you can do, they get a guaranteed win. If you choose a tank they... pick fiora again because she has true damage based off of your health off of her passive. If you pick a ranged. They pick aatrox or malph and fuck you up, not a whole lot you can do if they counter pick you. Just my thoughts, though.
That's pretty much top laner life. That's why I have anxiety whenever I'm first pick in toplane.
Thats counter picking. Meta wise u can still win even if u pick a A or B tier pick against an S tier pick if u play well in top lane whereas in bot, A or below is trash when compared to S no matter how u look at it.
@@amalkrishna7742 yeah i realized after i commented that i was definitely talking about counter picking and not meta lmfao
"ADC is the only role where your hand starts hurting after the game"
My man hasn't played Nidalee before now has he?
I think he has not realized that Riven can do a combo where you press 7 keys in 0.8s while using A-move ;D
actually no, if you are an adc main who's above plat, you most likely will be rotating between left clicking, pressing the aa button every 0.3 seconds.
Whats funny is when the adc says i took there kill when i burned flash and q power courd on sona to kill an overconfident enemy that the adc could not have killed
got notified by out side jokes sever for this video
As a main supp, that "support roaming" clip of ezreal where the morgana support is getting a kill mid, while ezreal without flash up is pushing bot alone against Twitch/Alistar, with 0 vision of the river despite having 2 wards in inventory, to get 2 ranged minions when his massive wave is already crashing under tower, giving him a perfect reset... TRIGGERING. The worst feeling as an ADC or watching an ADC is that, greeding for 16 gold, giving the ennemy team 450.
You still good at transitioning to the add bro. Keep it up!
thanks ricks!
Okay, in regards to supports stealing kills, it's forgiveable in three situations. 1: They were using a primarily CC ability and underestimated my damage (cant tell you how many kills I've accudentally stolen with my E as blitzcrank when i was trying to secure the kill for ADC). 2: They used ignite to keep them from getting away and the burn damage killed them. 3: they are playing pyke and they give you your cut, G.
I feel like EVERY FREACKING ROLE Is his own level of PAIN.
League has his own level of pain
Except River Shen.
I was waiting for this as an Ashe main :D thanks!
:s I gotchu
the edits on this video PogU
as a support player. both poke and engage. Just because i land a hook as pyke, or a w as rakan. Or a senna W doesn’t mean i want to go in. I am just trying to poke more aggressively. I’ll ping when i want you to fight
And then when the said person doesnt die you go “ sUpPoRt RiGhT cLiCk, supp diff”
Being behind on kills and cs but not being allowed to farm minions with your team and getting flamed when you go off on your own to get any cs
As a wise ADC main once said: I dont have Depression........but...
....but ...?
@@xinahliaofthefeywild8985 The State you re being in when you play ADC gets close to it :3
@@coldsab2060 xD
I solo'd ADC most my league career but once I got into a relationship he played support and having a supp you know is good is just chefs kiss.
Honorable mention: iteming Immortal Shieldbow cause u thought their shyvana was going full ap and now you can't even damage her.
Also fun fact, Illaoi's tentacles dances with her
Damn I really felt 14. Like OMG I'M 3 FARM BEHIND AND ONE OF THEM IS A CANNON IF I DON'T CATCH UP IT'S GG!!
When you get camped by shaco at lvl 2 and die so your jng decide not to gank your lane once in game
for an adc any champion in the game (except other adcs) is an assassin bro
Wow +5 thank you outside joke!!!! We need more of these kind of videos!!! My personal fave are the useful ones and it really blows me off!!🎉
4:36 if your thresh is playing behind the adc its so he can save you with his lantren(or does not have flash up to use right after his w to make it so that u can escape
As a support main, I keep attacking when they are low because if I get gold sooner, then I can get my cheap items faster and be of more use. Especially since support items are always under 3000. Gold is the best thing you can give the role that can be 5/6 items by 10k gold.
My favorite part as a supp is that i have to learn to play with engage, mage and encharter supports
I mean... i'm not playing the supp but i have to learn to play with them
I have seen adcs get one shot more often and quicker by tanks more than assassins
A fed katarina can only get more fed because she feeds on the poor ambitions of an ADC. Doesn't even have to be in her lane for the rest of the game honestly
So I played fill, and I got ADC... I played Draven and got a Morgana... she didn't land ANY skill shots, and when she did, I was either low health or low mana, and couldn't do anything.... THEN ON TOP OF THAT, SHE STOLL MY CS THE WHOLE TIME.... I had over 50 cs... SHE HAD MORE THAN ME... I main support, and that hurts me
Number 16. Giving up and playing different role
5:41 - Complains about support roaming
Is playing the most self sufficient ADC in the game
Dies due to lack of vision with 2 wards in inventory
Things only ADC mains will understand XD
9:49 That alistar really plays good
Tips for ADCs:
1. DON'T PLAY ADC
2.Play with friends so you can get reliable teammates.
3.ALWAYS hug the tower if your supp is down or recalled, if the tower is in low health RUN
4. Build atleast two semi defensive items (trinity, guardian shield or even lifesteal items)
5. Don't trust your teammates (that much) they might troll or tilt so be careful
6. Don't roam alone (thats really obvious but we always do this for some reason)
7. It's better to main more roles than ADCs because adc is in high demand everyone loves to be kaisa
8. Take defined risks, if your setter supp made a cc try to take control
9. Here's a really good tip, if your in the bottom and didn't do have any damage because your underfed, try supporting. Yeah I've tried it, if you don't participate in 1v1 and always goes with someone then you have a tiny bit more chance to win. Build doesn't matter tbh.
about that attack move, i bound mine to a side mousebutton and it is so more comfortable than the a key(because you can allways have your other fingers on q w e)
Kill stealing is bad. But what about the supports that wont save you because they dont want to ks.
For some reason this role has been relevant during all professional metas. ADC's are very strong (OP AF if played right)
Yeah sure, your silver 2 ashe who can't kite eventhough ashe has a passive and 2 abilities that enable her to be a kite godess can't kite a cc-less melee like shyvanna while a diamond+ kog'maw with very little self peel can kite and melt whole enemy teams within 5 seconds... Assasins? if they miss their engage or get cc'd by a peeler and the ADC engages they're pretty much dead within a second, if ADCs melt talks I don't want to tell you what they do to the squishier classes
I love it when the support roams
One more: getting al kills steal from your teammates and then getting blamed for not doing damage when you are really late on your build for lack of gold
You main source of gold is minions, you should not be reliant on kills for gold, they're nice but more of a lucky push forward
@@davidolde4173 some ADCs are kill reliant too, like Draven
@@davidolde4173 agree, but when you have same CS as enemy ADC but he have 10 kills and you 10 assists guess who will have more impact on doing damage
@@Robertohr18 Ofcourse, but in most games it will take a while for an ADC to get 10 kills, and by that time it will be the difference between 4 and 5 items, which is big, but not as big as 0 and 1 item
@Nicolás That is true, but Draven is the exception, his kit is designed around snowballing. But even Draven only gets more gold from kills by farming, he still has to farm
If you go into settings and turn off "enable missile line display" the your skills will show their range the same way as your basic attack range. You do lose seeing thw width of the skill though, but I did this a found out that lux q goes a bit beyond the range it shows - overall making it easier to land your skills on immobilised targets from max range.
For the "Support taking your kills" part, I kinda disagree. Like yes, I'm a support and ADC should be getting kills, but then the ADC doesn't manage to finish them off or even worse, dies, and it's the supports fault for not helping out. At the end of the day, it's an endless cycle.
ADC main: not getting kills is frustrating, but I try to always frame it to myself, that I just have to execute them (somethink like last hitting champions). But also, nah, I am not as irritated at support getting kills as long as they don't hurt my abilitie to farm.