Hallo Alexander, im Spätsommer gehen wir online und bis dahin gibt es die Möglichkeit einen Early Access zu bekommen. Schreib mir dafür am besten eine Mail an nina@megavoid.de. Ich schicke dir dann ein Angebot zu. 😊
This is a good point! Actually we have checked the temperature at various points during the last 6 hour session and we measured a maximum of 41°C at a hotspot near the end of the session, still far from an alarming level. We have to see how that changes come summer.
I would recommend taking advantage of the VESA holes during planning and final assembly, as they usually are on the same plane to each other and already have threads in them that can hold the weight of the TV - not necessarily on its back, but for lifting the TV out of the box, if the top is later covered by the acrylic. For the VESA holes, it's better to use threaded rod with a nut however, so as not to accidentally screw in a bolt too deep into the TV and break something - the maximum depth can usually be found in the TV's manual or parsed from the length of the VESA bolts provided. My current plan is to make a very short single leg stand that affixes to the VESA mount, so as to still have access to all that tablespace underneath the TV. Not sure how wobbly this might get, but I'm still prototyping.
Nice. I have built my own set top box, and I was careful to include ventilation holes, etc. I wish I'd filmed it, but this was back in 2018. Oh well. It was a gift for a friend. I also made mine with a sturdy handle for carrying and a slide in lid to protect the monitor while being transported. I also used special 90deg angle plugs to minimize the distance to the table, and allow for both standard and HDMI connections. Fun fun. I've got to check out your battle maps sometime. They look AWESOME!
Thank you very much! We will also build a second case with fan, handle to carry and a bit prettier. But that still has time... Maybe you film when you build the next, then we can also still be inspired.
Having worked with monitors for years, my BIGGEST concern when people mount them like this is COOLING. Normally air-flow is from bottom to top of the monitor, and passive cooling is fine. However, when you put them in a case like this, and mount them face-up, you are not providing any "air flow." This will shorten the life of the components in the monitor, depending on how long your gaming sessions are. I always recommend at LEAST a low-wattage "computer case" cooling fan, with an intake on one side and an exhaust port on the other side of your case, to keep the air moving. It doesn't have to move much air, but any air movement as opposed to just cooking your monitor in its own heat is preferable.
Interesting thought. When I built mine, I was very generous with air holes to allow for natural air circulation. I didn't have room for a fan, but maybe my next build....
I have been using mine for over 10 years now, I used a usb powered computer fan pushing air into one of the TV's vents, plugged into one of the TV's usb port for power, it is set to minimum speed so it's quiet and provides adequate air flow, the tv screen never becomes warm.
Great video! We use a TV, too, recessed into the table, with a sheet of glass for protection. TV is open at the bottom, so there is ample airflow, as it is kept in place by two metal straps (this is how many monitors are mounted in arcade-style video game cabinets).
@@infiniterealms8479 Wir haben "Folien" genommen, die eigentlich für Werbeaufsteller sind, die gibt es in klar und matt, die matten führen dazu, dass weniger Reflexionen das Spielgeschehen stören.
@@maggesn3867 Guter Hinweis, danke! Wir hatten noch keine Session mit der neuen Folie, daher kann ich noch nicht sagen ob eine matte Folie bei unseren Bedingungen notwendig wäre. Beim Testen war jedenfalls bei eingeschaltetem TV von störenden Reflexionen keine Spur - wir haben aber auch zu 99% indirekte Beleuchtung im Haus. Das spielt sicherlich eine große Rolle.
mind if i ask how it turned out? Im looking at using the same size but, i have a 40 inch available right now and i dont want to be building the box and i feel like its too small
Ich hatte die ersten paar Sekunden und dachte mir nur „DAS verstehe ich gut, dass ist der mir vertraute deutsche Akzent“ 😂😂 Aber super Video, genau das hatte ich gesucht, vielen dank!!
I am in process of milling wood for our gaming table. My plan is to use a wall mount for tv (kind without an arm) so I can adjust the X and Y axis. This will leave room for cooling and have back up plan for additional fans if needed. I am uncertain if I am going to attempt to remove the bezel from the front of the TV so I can make it fit so grid lines would extend to the physical table without the bezel gap.
Im actually planning to build one for family game nights to play d&d with the family on. I just replaced an older non smart tv so weve been trying to figure out what to do with it and i came accross this idea.
All animated 3d maps are part of our own tabletop software. Check it out at infinite-realms.app/ It can also play video maps, image files and universal vtt maps.
Excellent and straight forward video walkthrough. Kudos! May I ask what size and type of TV screen you are using? Looks like 43 inches? Is it LCD or LED? What about heat, is there a risk of heat damaging the screen component from below? Any experiences in this regard?
Thanks! It is an old 40” LCD. It does not get particularly warm so we scrapped the idea of adding some fans for active cooling. All in all it may get a bit warmer than standing upright, but not much. And due to it being used every other week or so for 4-8 hours compared to a normal TV being used daily… we guess it has no negative effect on the lifetime of the TV. This may be different with a different TV though!
@@infiniterealms8479 excellent! I tried a 32” Philips LED (it was cheap and insanely lightweight). Unfortunately the screen size was too small so I’m aiming at a 43” when finances are in place :) Thanks a lot for your response, I’ll keep you posted on my progress :) //Casper (Aus Dänemark :))
Ive watched several videos of people who have built their own TV gaming table and it seems like once people have a frame built they run into the issue of getting the screen to be level inside of the frame and dealing with the fact that the back of the TV isnt flat and they always end up having to very carefuly make support pieces of various geometries to hold the TV level and support it at different places on the back of the TV. Wouldn't it be a million times easier to just run some thick, high quality velcro straps across the frame to cradle the TV in the box? The straps would be precisely adjustable and wouldn't care about the geometry of the back of the TV. It would be far easier to adjust each strap as needed than to cut all of the specific pieces of wood to support the TV at the correct height annd angle for each spot where a support is needed, wouldn't it? You could just place the frame upside-down, lay the TV into the frame screen-side down, then tighten the straps down around the back of the TV and then flip the whole thing over. The screen should be flush with the frame at that point I would think. Even if the TV settles a little bit, if you build it right and do the straps in asmart way, you should be able to adjust the straps as needed with the whole thing face up to raise or lower the screen as needed. In the direction the straps run, the TV should be level no matter what.
Seems like a legit alternative! When placing the straps you would just have to take care to not block any ports and ventilation slots. On the other hand building the central support piece was no real issue. Even for total amateurs like us.
I ended up using the foam packing blocks (slightly altered) on the top and bottom to fit snugly into the frame and allow the tv to be level. I also fastened it to the back with the vesa mounting screws.
Very nice! Have you thought of using a thin frame in the front so that the TV doesnt fall out the front while transporting? Or is it held some way I didnt see
Just gravity, it is not so big as to be problematic to carry upright! Also we just put the TV in the frame for a gaming session and reattach its stand when not using it for a while.
@@infiniterealms8479 ahhh, very cool. I hadnt thought about a dual use TV yet but its quite interesting. Thanks for the quick response! grüße aus Freiburg!
Check out Manny Sykes here on RUclips. There is a download link for all his video maps in the channel description. Reddit is also a great place to find talented creators and (free) maps: www.reddit.com/r/battlemaps/
We use our own software "Infinite Realms" and our own dynamic 3D maps or maps from other creators. You can find our software at: www.infinite-realms.app
The final version will launch sometime in late summer. We are currently discussing doing another round of early access before the launch. You can subscribe to our newsletter on infinite-realms.de to get all info about this as soon as we have it!
Very nice! I'm curious if the thin vinyl on top is affected at all by the heat from the screen? Since this build, have you swapped this out for a more permanent solution like plexiglass?
After multiple uses the vinyl has proven to be the perfect solution. The screen in our setup just gets warm to the touch but not hot, even in the summer.
I'm currently working on a flat screen tabletop table for my D&D Game. So far I've flat screen and the frame And the program, And all that's working fine. But now I'm considering building a wooden table around the flat screen t.v. wooden frame. And after the wooden table was built, actually I was considering a way to make it look like it's made of stone, but on a much bigger scale. So Jeremy, any Idea's? This episode really helped, it gave me a few Ideas. But what do u say?
Hey I am thinking about adding TV box or projector setup. Any reason why you mad your box so deep? My table is tall so I would like to minimize added height.
Hi Eric, We used the boards as we bought them, you can certainly take narrower ones. Just make sure that there is enough space (or a fan) that the warm air does not accumulate!
It is some rather old non brand 40". Take measurements of your table and decide on the size based on that. We have some 15cm for our players to put stuff between TV and table edge, that works pretty well!
Really liked your gaming table! We just posted our D&D gaming table build. Take a look if you get change. It's pretty bizarre. Going to peruse your channel now :) !
Vielen Dank für dieses video!!
Jetzt muss ich nur noch einen Weg finden, euer Programm zu bekommen, obwohl ich für den Kickstarter zu spät war >.
Hallo Alexander,
im Spätsommer gehen wir online und bis dahin gibt es die Möglichkeit einen Early Access zu bekommen. Schreib mir dafür am besten eine Mail an nina@megavoid.de. Ich schicke dir dann ein Angebot zu. 😊
You should add ventilation and/or temperature monitoring to your wooden case. Do not underestimate the heat buildup of the tv.
This is a good point! Actually we have checked the temperature at various points during the last 6 hour session and we measured a maximum of 41°C at a hotspot near the end of the session, still far from an alarming level. We have to see how that changes come summer.
😂
Amazing idea. I still recommend using plexi for the additional protetction and covering it with the foil to avoid.
I would recommend taking advantage of the VESA holes during planning and final assembly, as they usually are on the same plane to each other and already have threads in them that can hold the weight of the TV - not necessarily on its back, but for lifting the TV out of the box, if the top is later covered by the acrylic. For the VESA holes, it's better to use threaded rod with a nut however, so as not to accidentally screw in a bolt too deep into the TV and break something - the maximum depth can usually be found in the TV's manual or parsed from the length of the VESA bolts provided.
My current plan is to make a very short single leg stand that affixes to the VESA mount, so as to still have access to all that tablespace underneath the TV. Not sure how wobbly this might get, but I'm still prototyping.
Nice. I have built my own set top box, and I was careful to include ventilation holes, etc. I wish I'd filmed it, but this was back in 2018. Oh well. It was a gift for a friend. I also made mine with a sturdy handle for carrying and a slide in lid to protect the monitor while being transported. I also used special 90deg angle plugs to minimize the distance to the table, and allow for both standard and HDMI connections. Fun fun. I've got to check out your battle maps sometime. They look AWESOME!
Thank you very much!
We will also build a second case with fan, handle to carry and a bit prettier. But that still has time...
Maybe you film when you build the next, then we can also still be inspired.
Thanks a lot guys! I'm going to build one on next week!
This is a great idea, love the Swarmlord showing up!
Having worked with monitors for years, my BIGGEST concern when people mount them like this is COOLING. Normally air-flow is from bottom to top of the monitor, and passive cooling is fine. However, when you put them in a case like this, and mount them face-up, you are not providing any "air flow." This will shorten the life of the components in the monitor, depending on how long your gaming sessions are.
I always recommend at LEAST a low-wattage "computer case" cooling fan, with an intake on one side and an exhaust port on the other side of your case, to keep the air moving. It doesn't have to move much air, but any air movement as opposed to just cooking your monitor in its own heat is preferable.
Sure but how do you power the fans?
@@fufu1405 Most TVs have USB ports. Get some USB powered fans.
Interesting thought. When I built mine, I was very generous with air holes to allow for natural air circulation. I didn't have room for a fan, but maybe my next build....
I have been using mine for over 10 years now, I used a usb powered computer fan pushing air into one of the TV's vents, plugged into one of the TV's usb port for power, it is set to minimum speed so it's quiet and provides adequate air flow, the tv screen never becomes warm.
awesome tabletop & family project. congrats
Great video! We use a TV, too, recessed into the table, with a sheet of glass for protection. TV is open at the bottom, so there is ample airflow, as it is kept in place by two metal straps (this is how many monitors are mounted in arcade-style video game cabinets).
Thanks! We are a looking into ways to improve air flow a bit - it does not get that hot, just in case. Your solution sounds near perfect!
Ist doch super geworden! Die Folie ist eine gute Lösung!
Das stimmt! Wir waren echt überrascht wie schnell und einfach das ging - und wenn der Fernseher an ist sieht man von der Schutzfolie nichts mehr!
@@infiniterealms8479 Wir haben "Folien" genommen, die eigentlich für Werbeaufsteller sind, die gibt es in klar und matt, die matten führen dazu, dass weniger Reflexionen das Spielgeschehen stören.
@@maggesn3867 Guter Hinweis, danke! Wir hatten noch keine Session mit der neuen Folie, daher kann ich noch nicht sagen ob eine matte Folie bei unseren Bedingungen notwendig wäre. Beim Testen war jedenfalls bei eingeschaltetem TV von störenden Reflexionen keine Spur - wir haben aber auch zu 99% indirekte Beleuchtung im Haus. Das spielt sicherlich eine große Rolle.
I'm new to your channel but I started my first touch screen 55" TV table today.. this video was so inspiring
mind if i ask how it turned out? Im looking at using the same size but, i have a 40 inch available right now and i dont want to be building the box and i feel like its too small
@@rogerkinney9239 turned out pretty good.. I had to do custom cuts because the back of my tv was oddly haha..but my kids use it all the time
I think you did a pretty good job, and show how fast it is to build a simple and useful solution :-)
But nothing compared to your TV case! I guess it took more than 4 hours to build, though... ;)
Ive been looking to build one for ages this looks simple
Ich hatte die ersten paar Sekunden und dachte mir nur „DAS verstehe ich gut, dass ist der mir vertraute deutsche Akzent“ 😂😂
Aber super Video, genau das hatte ich gesucht, vielen dank!!
What do you use for your animated maps like the moving water? that looks so cool
The animated maps are integrated in our own tabletop software - www.infinite-realms.app
I am in process of milling wood for our gaming table. My plan is to use a wall mount for tv (kind without an arm) so I can adjust the X and Y axis. This will leave room for cooling and have back up plan for additional fans if needed. I am uncertain if I am going to attempt to remove the bezel from the front of the TV so I can make it fit so grid lines would extend to the physical table without the bezel gap.
We are thinking about using a vanilla wall mount as a base for version 2.0 as well. It would be great to see your design in action!
That's an idea I had not considered. Using a wall mount kit... hmmm.
This is a great video! Me and my uncle are going to build the same one on Friday 😎 thank you guys for this video!
Das ist echt ein cooles Projekt. Vielen Dank für das schöne Video.
Vielen Dank!
Amazing idea
Brilliant
Im actually planning to build one for family game nights to play d&d with the family on. I just replaced an older non smart tv so weve been trying to figure out what to do with it and i came accross this idea.
Amazing!
Where did you find the animated maps ? Great job...❤
All animated 3d maps are part of our own tabletop software. Check it out at infinite-realms.app/
It can also play video maps, image files and universal vtt maps.
Great video…
Excellent and straight forward video walkthrough. Kudos! May I ask what size and type of TV screen you are using? Looks like 43 inches? Is it LCD or LED? What about heat, is there a risk of heat damaging the screen component from below? Any experiences in this regard?
Thanks! It is an old 40” LCD. It does not get particularly warm so we scrapped the idea of adding some fans for active cooling. All in all it may get a bit warmer than standing upright, but not much. And due to it being used every other week or so for 4-8 hours compared to a normal TV being used daily… we guess it has no negative effect on the lifetime of the TV.
This may be different with a different TV though!
@@infiniterealms8479 excellent! I tried a 32” Philips LED (it was cheap and insanely lightweight). Unfortunately the screen size was too small so I’m aiming at a 43” when finances are in place :) Thanks a lot for your response, I’ll keep you posted on my progress :) //Casper (Aus Dänemark :))
Just laid a tv on the table.... Turned out fine
Ive watched several videos of people who have built their own TV gaming table and it seems like once people have a frame built they run into the issue of getting the screen to be level inside of the frame and dealing with the fact that the back of the TV isnt flat and they always end up having to very carefuly make support pieces of various geometries to hold the TV level and support it at different places on the back of the TV. Wouldn't it be a million times easier to just run some thick, high quality velcro straps across the frame to cradle the TV in the box? The straps would be precisely adjustable and wouldn't care about the geometry of the back of the TV. It would be far easier to adjust each strap as needed than to cut all of the specific pieces of wood to support the TV at the correct height annd angle for each spot where a support is needed, wouldn't it?
You could just place the frame upside-down, lay the TV into the frame screen-side down, then tighten the straps down around the back of the TV and then flip the whole thing over. The screen should be flush with the frame at that point I would think. Even if the TV settles a little bit, if you build it right and do the straps in asmart way, you should be able to adjust the straps as needed with the whole thing face up to raise or lower the screen as needed. In the direction the straps run, the TV should be level no matter what.
Seems like a legit alternative! When placing the straps you would just have to take care to not block any ports and ventilation slots.
On the other hand building the central support piece was no real issue. Even for total amateurs like us.
I ended up using the foam packing blocks (slightly altered) on the top and bottom to fit snugly into the frame and allow the tv to be level. I also fastened it to the back with the vesa mounting screws.
This is old but I would get a wall bracket attached to the vesa mount and a solid back plate that the tv could rest on.
Very nice! Have you thought of using a thin frame in the front so that the TV doesnt fall out the front while transporting? Or is it held some way I didnt see
Just gravity, it is not so big as to be problematic to carry upright! Also we just put the TV in the frame for a gaming session and reattach its stand when not using it for a while.
@@infiniterealms8479 ahhh, very cool. I hadnt thought about a dual use TV yet but its quite interesting. Thanks for the quick response! grüße aus Freiburg!
Where do you get the battlemaps from I have the tv for it but can't seem to find legit battlemaps
Check out Manny Sykes here on RUclips. There is a download link for all his video maps in the channel description.
Reddit is also a great place to find talented creators and (free) maps: www.reddit.com/r/battlemaps/
what software is used for the maps please?
It’s our own Software, Infinite Realms, you can download it here: infinite-realms.app/
@@infiniterealms8479 oh thanks
But wat exact maps and software are you using? Very interested in that part.
We use our own software "Infinite Realms" and our own dynamic 3D maps or maps from other creators.
You can find our software at: www.infinite-realms.app
I wish I learned about your KS a few days earlier.
The final version will launch sometime in late summer. We are currently discussing doing another round of early access before the launch. You can subscribe to our newsletter on infinite-realms.de to get all info about this as soon as we have it!
Where do you find pictures of Playground? Or are they also selfmade?
Very nice! I'm curious if the thin vinyl on top is affected at all by the heat from the screen? Since this build, have you swapped this out for a more permanent solution like plexiglass?
After multiple uses the vinyl has proven to be the perfect solution. The screen in our setup just gets warm to the touch but not hot, even in the summer.
I'm currently working on a flat screen tabletop table for my D&D Game. So far I've flat screen and the frame And the program, And all that's working fine. But now I'm considering building a wooden table around the flat screen t.v. wooden frame. And after the wooden table was built, actually I was considering a way to make it look like it's made of stone, but on a much bigger scale. So Jeremy, any Idea's? This episode really helped, it gave me a few Ideas. But what do u say?
Hey I am thinking about adding TV box or projector setup.
Any reason why you mad your box so deep?
My table is tall so I would like to minimize added height.
Hi Eric,
We used the boards as we bought them, you can certainly take narrower ones.
Just make sure that there is enough space (or a fan) that the warm air does not accumulate!
you could remove the back plastic i think it would help with depth
What size of TV did you use?
This one is 40“, we also use a projector sometimes that equals 49“ on the table.
Dude I wanna play at your table
has anyone tried using a clear window tint to cover the TV screen?
If I give you the dimension of my tv screen, pictures attached, can you build me a tv woodcase as you made for your tv?
Sorry, but we can’t do this. But maybe this TikTok video helps you. This is a super easy build for a tv case. vm.tiktok.com/ZMFSAVXUk/
@@infiniterealms8479 Thanks. And what kind of tv is yours? I'm looking for a suitable model
It is some rather old non brand 40". Take measurements of your table and decide on the size based on that. We have some 15cm for our players to put stuff between TV and table edge, that works pretty well!
Remove the rear plastic. And add a fan just in case.
Really liked your gaming table! We just posted our D&D gaming table build. Take a look if you get change. It's pretty bizarre. Going to peruse your channel now :) !
I want to build one as a coffee table
In that case you should definitely think of some screen protection!