Love my mechanical rim brake bikes. Especially my direct mount rim brake Fuji carbon bike. With HED wheels and 9100 dura ace its an incredible ride and not too much proprietary stuff that I can make adjustments in the cockpit where needed. But my go to training bike is my Allez Sprint with mavic ksyrium pro ust wheels. Not about speed when training.
Direct mount brakes are very stiff. I have them on my Bianchi XR4. R9100 groupset was/is amazing. It would have been interested to see how Shimano would have been able to improve on such a fantastic groupset.
You know it's funny I hear that more and more these days. I know many riders who have purchased a Ritchey Road Logic from me and they tell me "I have several carbon bikes but prefer to ride the Road Logic" Most people don't realize how incredible a RL rides. Thank you for providing another unsolicited testimonial for steel. Please consider subscribing
Come on guys let’s get George to 8000 subs for Christmas he really deserves it 😊 look forward your next vids later this week George 😊 👍 man I gotta try harder with the first comment 😊😊 Pete 🚴🏻👍
I own lots of bikes. I used to think newest and latest would be best by definition. But I have had to repair three carbon frames for damage that wouldn’t have affected a metal frame at all. I own an Aeroad and it’s awesome for very specific use cases. Day to day, it’s Ritchey steel for me. Just try one, it sells itself. Outside of racing the disc versus rim brake argument is baseless. Good rim brakes on good wheels are wonderful. And George isn’t a total snob. We’ve ridden together regardless of what bike I brought. He’s a cyclist first and foremost.
I have many bikes as well including two count them disc brake bikes. Here's my two coins. Disc brake bikes take a lot of faff when cleaning the bike. Take the wheels off so you don't touch the rotors and contaminate them 😡 cover the calipers so you don't spray anything one them and contaminate the pads 😡 Take the wheels off to change the pads😡 TOO much faff I'll stick with rim brakes thank you. The only advantage disc brakes have is during wet weather. Rim brakes are far superior: lighter, easier maintenance, and easier charging the pads IME (in my experience)
I love my rim brake steel bike. But I also like hydraulic brakes and wide tires. I have the disc brake Ritchey SwissCross on-order and I'm looking forward to riding and racing it!
The SwissCross Disc was think would be the perfect bike!! Still close to road geometry but with 40mm tire capacity. Thanks for watching please consider subscribing
Not doing Steel but I am getting a pre-owned titanium rim brake bike. But still love my carbon disc brakes bike. A different one for each type of riding I want to do.
@@Michael-s5i5j Sorry to hear that Michael! I have never been a fan of Titanium. So freaking expensive and it is not the "forever bike" material. Reginald is a big fan of Ti but not me. I have seen so many Ti bikes crack over the years but I have never seen a steel bike crack. If you want a forever bike it should be built of Steel!
Ever since I got my Ritchey, my carbon bike has been collecting dust. No thanks to George 😂 Oh and btw maybe one of these days a Colnago master will land in George’s shop for a review. 😁
That would be cool! But seriously thank you for the unsolicited testimonial on the ride quality of a Ritchey Road Logic. It’s so hard to explain to people why I rode steel and not carbon bikes.
Let's goooo! This sounds like a good topic for a video! Thank you for watching from Sweden! My riding partner on my R60 300km, Brook did the Midnight Sun Randonnee this year Jess SAG'd at the controls you will meet Brook on this video ruclips.net/video/5n_vyJScfP4/видео.html Event recap is here on this video ruclips.net/video/lvjP0XqaVLs/видео.htmlsi=s9Rvhw6SWyzEaOdX
There is wrong with ti, alloy or steel bike frames. Better for some people at they are outside normal size zones or handle rougher rides better besides good for many years of regular use.
So went to visit your website to learn more on the Rev drink mix, but had a bit of trouble finding your site. Seems the address on your front door isn’t valid anymore 😂. Oh, where was the viewer 15% code for the mix? Must have missed it.
Thank you for your interest in REV Energy. Oh so sorry if you got turned around. I prefer to work with people One on One so send me an email at revcycling@gmail.com so we can discuss your needs and how REV Energy might work for you. We can then set up payment via Venmo or PayPal Yes the website that was on my front door was replaced with another site. The discount code is not applicable on the website anyway. It is only applicable when I am contacted directly. Like I said with this product I want to work with perspective buyers one on one. Also you can read testimonials from users of REV Energy here epictrain.me
The idea that frame material really matters for most of us is such a myth. So many other things really determine the quality of a bike and the enjoyment of a ride. Carbon fiber's main benefit is the weird aero shapes in which it can be crafted; that's the real way it may be superior to other materials that can't be as aero. My rim brake ti bike keeps up just fine with other bikes. But I'm not anti-modernity. My next bike has hydro discs and carbon rims (though it's steel with mechanical shifting).
Hello Barry you are correct. That is why I mentioned in my video that wheels, tires, and tire pressure make the most difference in ride quality and even performance. I am also not anti tech but it has to really have a significant benefit, improvement or be irreplaceable by something else. For example, nothing can be substituted for a power meter so yes I use a power meter. But electronic shifting can be replaced by mechanical shifting and arguably less headaches over the long term. Anyway I am making notes to make a video as a rebuttal to those two comments.
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad And Shimano's mechanical groupsets (all the way down to Claris) are just insanely good. I don't know why they didn't decide just to make 11 speed Ultegra forever - it's just about perfect.
I would take the advice of a seasoned bike mechanic over a person who only sells bikes or the hype that manufacturers spew out, anyday. I think all this advancement is only good if you are a professional cyclist who gets their bikes for free, they don't have a long life (bikes) so if they are made with materials barely strong enough to hold together and meet the super-lightweight criteria of a pro-bike then they have a market but in the day in and day out needs of a cyclist who wants durability these plastic bikes are a joke. I constantly see used carbon bikes for sale and I have to wonder how many of them have a major crash defect in them. Have a nice day.
Man you hit the nail on the head! Many of the things you said are the reason that chasing latest and greatest every year or every other year is an exercise in futility!
We need more content creators pushing steel bikes and rim brakes. If the best part of bicycles and their history disappeared what would we be left with? Junk. If bicycles get that rap the sport will be ghosted. Even though carbon offers good performance it doesn't last. Carbon will never have a "Vintage" following and reputation like steel bikes have. The electronic gearing components are always changing every few years and electronic components on those circuit boards die pretty quickly so don't think you're going to have a rideable bike after a decade or so either. The modern bike is not better, not by a longshot. This is why I have chosen a custom frame builder that still builds old school style lugged frames and forks and built it up with mechanical componentry. I have a modern bike too with disc brakes and DA Di2 but It's not rideable at the moment because I'm waiting on a battery to be warrantied. And once that 2nd battery dies will I ever be able to replace it? Probably not because it will be out of production. I'll either be forced to buy a whole new groupset or sell the bike for parts. I say bring back big and strong the stuff that proved the test of time.
Hello Raymond. I am definitely going to use some of your post in my rebuttal video. You make valid points and why I don't want to fill my quiver with the latest and greatest. Thank you for a great comment that adds to the discussion. Cheers
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Love my mechanical rim brake bikes. Especially my direct mount rim brake Fuji carbon bike. With HED wheels and 9100 dura ace its an incredible ride and not too much proprietary stuff that I can make adjustments in the cockpit where needed. But my go to training bike is my Allez Sprint with mavic ksyrium pro ust wheels. Not about speed when training.
Direct mount brakes are very stiff. I have them on my Bianchi XR4. R9100 groupset was/is amazing. It would have been interested to see how Shimano would have been able to improve on such a fantastic groupset.
I’m here for you! We really enjoy your channel, thanks for sharing your knowledge and experiences
Thanks! I appreciate the support!
BTW we love that you ride and have a passion for steel bikes. Ritchey is a local hero for me, his bikes are the real deal.
Can´t wait for the next videos. By the way, I own a very nice and light carbon De Rosa but much prefere my steel bike.
You know it's funny I hear that more and more these days. I know many riders who have purchased a Ritchey Road Logic from me and they tell me "I have several carbon bikes but prefer to ride the Road Logic" Most people don't realize how incredible a RL rides. Thank you for providing another unsolicited testimonial for steel. Please consider subscribing
Come on guys let’s get George to 8000 subs for Christmas he really deserves it 😊 look forward your next vids later this week George 😊 👍 man I gotta try harder with the first comment 😊😊 Pete 🚴🏻👍
Thank you for leading the charge Pete!
I own lots of bikes. I used to think newest and latest would be best by definition. But I have had to repair three carbon frames for damage that wouldn’t have affected a metal frame at all.
I own an Aeroad and it’s awesome for very specific use cases.
Day to day, it’s Ritchey steel for me. Just try one, it sells itself.
Outside of racing the disc versus rim brake argument is baseless. Good rim brakes on good wheels are wonderful.
And George isn’t a total snob. We’ve ridden together regardless of what bike I brought. He’s a cyclist first and foremost.
Your comment is excellent I wish to use it in my video.
I have many bikes as well including two count them disc brake bikes.
Here's my two coins. Disc brake bikes take a lot of faff when cleaning the bike. Take the wheels off so you don't touch the rotors and contaminate them 😡 cover the calipers so you don't spray anything one them and contaminate the pads 😡
Take the wheels off to change the pads😡 TOO much faff
I'll stick with rim brakes thank you.
The only advantage disc brakes have is during wet weather. Rim brakes are far superior: lighter, easier maintenance, and easier charging the pads IME (in my experience)
@@tmayberry7559 All true statements!
I love my rim brake steel bike. But I also like hydraulic brakes and wide tires. I have the disc brake Ritchey SwissCross on-order and I'm looking forward to riding and racing it!
The SwissCross Disc was think would be the perfect bike!! Still close to road geometry but with 40mm tire capacity. Thanks for watching please consider subscribing
Oh wow I’ve never been mentioned in a RUclips before!
Thanks again George.
Ha Ha this is a grass roots channel! I appreciate my viewers and acknowledge them publicly when I can. Thanks for watching!
Not doing Steel but I am getting a pre-owned titanium rim brake bike. But still love my carbon disc brakes bike. A different one for each type of riding I want to do.
@@salsalawyer how about a different one for each day of the week? 🤣🤣 thanks for watching sir!
@SeeYouUpTheRoad only if I had the storage, lolol 🤣
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad I have that one covered with one extra 😂
I take your point about carbon George,but my 10 yo Dean El Diente has just cracked at the chainstay rear hanger junction,no accident,just stress☹️
Dean as in Ti frame?
@ yep
@@Michael-s5i5j Sorry to hear that Michael! I have never been a fan of Titanium. So freaking expensive and it is not the "forever bike" material. Reginald is a big fan of Ti but not me. I have seen so many Ti bikes crack over the years but I have never seen a steel bike crack. If you want a forever bike it should be built of Steel!
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad That is the forever truth George 😊
Ever since I got my Ritchey, my carbon bike has been collecting dust. No thanks to George 😂
Oh and btw maybe one of these days a Colnago master will land in George’s shop for a review. 😁
That would be cool! But seriously thank you for the unsolicited testimonial on the ride quality of a Ritchey Road Logic. It’s so hard to explain to people why I rode steel and not carbon bikes.
FYI - way back when Colnago released a Saroni (red) Master I was ready to buy it and then had a financial emergency that precluded the purchase. 😭
I see George riding around our hood all the time and the steel bike looks super nice!
Cutter!! I hope you are well.
8000 subscribers! I am living in Sweden. Where are you other listeners living?
Greetings!
Let's goooo! This sounds like a good topic for a video! Thank you for watching from Sweden! My riding partner on my R60 300km, Brook did the Midnight Sun Randonnee this year
Jess SAG'd at the controls you will meet Brook on this video
ruclips.net/video/5n_vyJScfP4/видео.html
Event recap is here on this video
ruclips.net/video/lvjP0XqaVLs/видео.htmlsi=s9Rvhw6SWyzEaOdX
There is wrong with ti, alloy or steel bike frames. Better for some people at they are outside normal size zones or handle rougher rides better besides good for many years of regular use.
Number 15 LOL
And now that you're here we can start the party! Welcome back!
So went to visit your website to learn more on the Rev drink mix, but had a bit of trouble finding your site. Seems the address on your front door isn’t valid anymore 😂. Oh, where was the viewer 15% code for the mix? Must have missed it.
Thank you for your interest in REV Energy. Oh so sorry if you got turned around. I prefer to work with people One on One so send me an email at revcycling@gmail.com so we can discuss your needs and how REV Energy might work for you. We can then set up payment via Venmo or PayPal
Yes the website that was on my front door was replaced with another site. The discount code is not applicable on the website anyway. It is only applicable when I am contacted directly. Like I said with this product I want to work with perspective buyers one on one.
Also you can read testimonials from users of REV Energy here epictrain.me
79th?
@@Jason-t7f1t ha ha!
First!
Indeed! Send me an email to "revcycling@gmail.com" with your address so I can ship you a REV Bottle!
I will! Thank you so much!@@SeeYouUpTheRoad
The idea that frame material really matters for most of us is such a myth. So many other things really determine the quality of a bike and the enjoyment of a ride. Carbon fiber's main benefit is the weird aero shapes in which it can be crafted; that's the real way it may be superior to other materials that can't be as aero.
My rim brake ti bike keeps up just fine with other bikes. But I'm not anti-modernity. My next bike has hydro discs and carbon rims (though it's steel with mechanical shifting).
Hello Barry you are correct. That is why I mentioned in my video that wheels, tires, and tire pressure make the most difference in ride quality and even performance.
I am also not anti tech but it has to really have a significant benefit, improvement or be irreplaceable by something else. For example, nothing can be substituted for a power meter so yes I use a power meter. But electronic shifting can be replaced by mechanical shifting and arguably less headaches over the long term. Anyway I am making notes to make a video as a rebuttal to those two comments.
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad And Shimano's mechanical groupsets (all the way down to Claris) are just insanely good. I don't know why they didn't decide just to make 11 speed Ultegra forever - it's just about perfect.
Second 😅
allll the way from France! Thank you Mathieu!
Just saw your video on the swiss cross. Great roads and very nice bike to go anywhere.
@ Thank You for watching another video Mathieu!
Should be interesting videos
Yes they should be! Hopefully I can keep people tuned in.
I would take the advice of a seasoned bike mechanic over a person who only sells bikes or the hype that manufacturers spew out, anyday. I think all this advancement is only good if you are a professional cyclist who gets their bikes for free, they don't have a long life (bikes) so if they are made with materials barely strong enough to hold together and meet the super-lightweight criteria of a pro-bike then they have a market but in the day in and day out needs of a cyclist who wants durability these plastic bikes are a joke. I constantly see used carbon bikes for sale and I have to wonder how many of them have a major crash defect in them. Have a nice day.
Man you hit the nail on the head! Many of the things you said are the reason that chasing latest and greatest every year or every other year is an exercise in futility!
We need more content creators pushing steel bikes and rim brakes. If the best part of bicycles and their history disappeared what would we be left with? Junk. If bicycles get that rap the sport will be ghosted. Even though carbon offers good performance it doesn't last. Carbon will never have a "Vintage" following and reputation like steel bikes have. The electronic gearing components are always changing every few years and electronic components on those circuit boards die pretty quickly so don't think you're going to have a rideable bike after a decade or so either. The modern bike is not better, not by a longshot. This is why I have chosen a custom frame builder that still builds old school style lugged frames and forks and built it up with mechanical componentry. I have a modern bike too with disc brakes and DA Di2 but It's not rideable at the moment because I'm waiting on a battery to be warrantied. And once that 2nd battery dies will I ever be able to replace it? Probably not because it will be out of production. I'll either be forced to buy a whole new groupset or sell the bike for parts. I say bring back big and strong the stuff that proved the test of time.
Hello Raymond. I am definitely going to use some of your post in my rebuttal video. You make valid points and why I don't want to fill my quiver with the latest and greatest. Thank you for a great comment that adds to the discussion. Cheers