I love the Marty gets to the heart of the matter of the HVAC issues. Moog says that people who actually own a Mk8 have gotten used to the new interface and it doesn't bother them. But the reality is that whether used to it or not, it's objectively worse. It introduces more actions to do the same things and removes your attention from the road to do it, making it less safe and more cumbersome. I'm glad VW announced they will go back to steering wheel buttons. Now do the same for the environment controls. I don't know if I agree that the Mk7 GTI is overall the better car, but it's definitely the one I'd rather be in right now.
As a vw tech I hate cars coming in with pop and crackle tunes... no resonator droning everywhere...yuck.. give me a clean borla exhaust and a proper tune anyday.
No pop tunes are so annoying, but I can't Hate on someone that likes them it's thier car I guess but I won't do it , he'll I started out no cat straight pipe sounded like crap now hf cat and dual mufflers
Loving the new addition Marty! 🤙🏼 Talking of Shannons Insurance plugs though, I have to give 2 thumbs up for Shannons. I have a modified turbo SAAB, and they were the only mob that would insure me. When some random lady ran up the back of me, not only did Shannons have my car fixed within a week, they also organised an uber to pick me up from the repairer to take me to the rental car place for my new Kia rental (which Shannons also provided), while Saab got fixed. I had never experienced such excellent service.
@@ShannonsInsurance Hi! Was a pleasure to say so. I have my car and 2 motorcycles with you. Literally the best insurance company. Shannons insurance and their staff deserve the praise 💯
@@MarcSola7 I wonder if they’re planning on turning the mk7.5 into an awd to see how much cheaper they can copy the mk8 performance. That would be pretty cool.
pfff, volvo has been taken over by drifters and been trashed in sweden and scandinavia by the inbreds in the country side. Get an Alfa or something instead ;)
Guys, being a Golf fan, I can tell you only one thing - I followed you for the past 15 years because of the JDM content mainly, and the more in dept and detailed hardcore projects, please don't step away from them! Please! :) BTW Great job as always, you guys put lots of effort and heart into your content, and this is why you have follower since the beginning!
Im very keen on the build on this MK7.5 GTI. I am lucky enough to have the same car, though in the USA the base model has different headlights and no LCD Dash its analog. I love my GTI, its the underdog, but surprises everyone. Just Love it!!
I’ve had my MK7.5 gti for almost 6 months now. It’s the best all rounder hot hatch. It does everything really well. It’s a classic too, been going for years. It just feels special. Love it.
You'll get board of the R. 7.5 GTI Performance pack is what you want if you insist on wanting a VW. There is better value out there though if you go for a 5F Seat Leon Cupra facelift, arguably the car Volkswagen should of made and also the better car.
The TDI is dope. You can still tune those a bit. Not as well as the 2.0T, but enough for loads of fun while still retaining that amazing fuel economy. I was looking to get a TDI, then Dieselgate happened.
Would have been nice to see a old vs new series. Was hoping Marty had purchased a vr6 of some sort like a mk4 and then did a turbo build and put them to the test
@@foreverjim5240 Exactly, as cool as a VR6 is , if you want to turbo one of them you'll be spending a minimum of 20-25k to have it done right , that is the same price in the UK, Canada or the US, they are not simply off the shelf parts , talk to any Vag specialist and they'll tell you to get a GTI Mark 5 or newer, I have had a series of Mk iv Golfs and the newer ones are cheaper and easier to mod and get big HP out of them
@@99unclebob You don't want to turbo a VR6 anyway. You want to super charge it to keep the responsiveness and the sound. I can't believe with all the VWs the guys have never done a VR6. Edit: That sounded negative. What I meant was, I’m surprised getting a VR6 car didn’t happen already, just because the show has done a lot of VW stuff.
Even my Dacia Duster came with Bonnet struts from factory. And that car costs less than 20k Euros brand new. (Starting at 14k. With every option about 20k)
I've been watching this 2 bloke since they started in their garage and remember the rusted with kits vw. I even lost count how many cars they had modified. I'm happy to see their superb progress and very fine content. Keep it up MartyCarMoog or Mighty Car Mods!
It's always fun watching you guys give and take shit back and forth, even when it's about some dumb modern like these VWs. I just don't get the appeal of cars like this off track, they're fast as hell but whenever I drive hot moderns on the street I just don't connect or feel much interest, maybe you have to have a couple of guys like the 2 of you riding along busting each others chops. Fun episode, "meh" car
I used to love driving my mk5 golf with performance lowering springs on country roads it seemed to shine the most on them up the wide bend hills makes me miss it seeing this. Highly recommend a country road trip!!
@@beaulunawolf1198 Well, here in the US we don't get the RS, or at least the latest versions, that I know of, so the ST is what we have 'instead.' I wonder if they're that common where both are available.
I absolutely love my Mk7 GTI! It’s like the perfect balance between performance and practicality for the price. Can’t wait until you feel a tune with a downpipe, the difference is crazy!
Well I must say, that is one MOTHER of a saving for the 7.5 v the 8, just huge. The issues Moog spoke about were not mechanical, so just a few E-gremlins. I am more interested in the comparo from a mechanical standpoint - and am looking forward to future vids. Good job boys on keeping your show as interesting AF! Cheers.
I was spoiled in the mk7.5. Crazy how much bang for buck you get. Electronic lsd, performance pack has bigger brakes, all this stuff comes stock. I chose the S trim for the same reason Marty did 😂 sunroof delete is the best and tartan cloth/plaid seats are so good.
8:25 lol poor Moog's face, the second Marty started listing things that could be done for 40k Moog was speechless. Marty getting the 7.5 just to fuck with Moog is priceless though, clearly the better value option even if the 8 is overall a better car (when the quirks are fixed?)
The mk7 gti the best daily I’ve ever bought. FBO a clutch and a tune, and decent rubber Car makes 450 to the wheels, and always puts a smile on my face. And the mk7 gti is cylinder head is better than the mk7R head… There is a reason Vw went back and put the gti cylinder head on the mk8 🤙🏼 cheers to the Vag content made my day.
Hey Guys, Marty it definitely needs a tune. I have a MY 15 (built Dec 14) 6 spd Gti that I have owned since new and it’s a daily driver. I got a Revo stage 1 tune and a Sachs clutch. Transforms the car. 184 kw on a hub dyno. Other mods include a wavetrac LSD, xForce cat back, Golf R rear lights. Plan to go stage 2 and a BBK eventually. Have had major mechanical problems which afflicted the early mk7 but still love the gti. Looking forward to see how your Gti turns out
The jump between my old MK5 and my recent 7.5 was absolutely remarkable. On an ‘08 2.0 FSI, with an IC, downpipe, full host of bolt-ons and full software (ECU/TCU) upgrade, I was still 30-40hp below what my new 7.5 GTI can achieve with a simple Stage 1 remap. Couldn’t love it more.
STOP IT! I don't need your "help" trying to justify to my wife how much better for the planet it would be if I "just" had a 300bhp GTi (with remapped DSG, 'cos it would be rude not to...)
@@thomascarruthers4397 Indeed, my particular model year had a warranty extension up to 100k miles on the mechatronic units in the DSGs. I was fortunate to avoid any such issues, other than the beginnings of some clutch slippage around the time I eventually parted with the car, but at that point there was 175k miles on the car (around 120k after tuning/upgrading). But, yes, the 5 was a blast, but the 7 is quite practically a whole new level of car.👍
I'm really looking forward to this. Bought my 2018 GTI for 28k usd back in March 2019. It's insane seeing what the Mk8 prices are. Highest prio (probably no brainer) is getting some lighter wheels. Those stock wheels are close to 30lbs each.
I love my Mk7 for so many reasons - buttons included. I’m actually genuinely concerned I won’t like the MK8 R I have on order because the MK7 has been so good.
So excited to see what you guys do to the GTI! I’ve got one of my own and I was got so excited when I saw the corner of the front bumper in the thumbnail!
@@kai_291 That sounds awesome. I know there’s more cool things available for the GTI but with the 2019 and newer GLI’s actually finally getting the same engine it really makes me want to give it some love. They have the potential to be highway weapons without looking like a ticket magnet, and that’s kind of what I’m gonna be going for.
Subie till I die but recently I found myself looking at either a Toyota Chaser or a Nissan Stagea, I would love a double unicorn R34 front end like mechanical Stiggs
@@alec5443 not in europe. cheap. lol but rs3 m140i or the pug gt are just as good. but generally speakin our european cars suck compared to the japanese hatches.
Some ricer tried to race my 18 GTI through a set of 3 roundabouts. That’s the first time I ever pushed it hard through turns. Incredible handling. Embarrassing for anything else
Agree, ended up with a GTD as my new E350 AMGline PP black edition Touring (stupid long name) was delayed...... I cancelled the Merc kept the GTD 4 years!!!! After 5 years.... I'm back in a Mk7 Golf R. I'm in love ❤️❤️❤️
As someone who doesn't care much for VW in general, the Mk7 and 7.5 are exceptionally good. If you can only have one car and it needs to be fun, you can't go wrong with a MK7 even if it's completely stock.
The Mk1 Golf only ever had 4 cylinder engines, even the GTI. First few years had a 1.6l with 110 hp, but it was later switched to a 1.8l with 112 hp, both taken from the Audi 80.
@@wowdogeful For sure. I meant swapped v6 or even the engine from the r32. The vr6, from what I've read, is not much heavier than the mk1 engines so it becomes a great car! It's a very common swap for the mk1.
Pretty much every other cartuber has you covered there. Euros don't get as much love, especially VW. So it's a nice & fresh breath of air when it does happen.
In South Africa that, in that condition it would've been sold for as a new second hand... The automotive industry is not really requalated people do cut cars in half and sell them to customers who don't even know that the car has crashed before. I really love the Australia and America when it comes to car market and second hand car market.
Gotta love a MK7, whether that be a base model, GTI, R, or variant aka Sportwagen, like I have. Not my first golf, but is my first awd wagon. The mods are absolutely endless. Grats on the great find :)
Loved this review it kind of brought home a lot of the reviews around the 8 especially how much distraction is caused in the air con drag race. I feel like the golf has always felt substantial and that's it's appeal. I think the 7.5 did it best and feels like the ultimate evolution whereas the 8 feels like they are changing the mold maybe making interiors that are expected in Hyundai's but lacks the usability golfs used to be synonymous for.
“When you remove the emotion from the argument and just look at the facts and figures objectively” I don’t think I have ever herd something sound more like the manufacture talking. emotion is why we are all car nuts in the first place. Emotion is what drives us to modify cars. To buy old cars that are objectively worse then there newer counterparts and fix them up and modify them.
Mk7 owner here. I've done a decent amount of mods on my car, spread out so I could really tell the difference (and for budgetary reasons). A set of sticky tires, and beefy rear sway bar, and a tune (with clutch if manual trans) TRANSFORM this car into a canyon slaying beast. For the price, it really can't be beat. The classy interior and respectable mpg's certainly help, too.
having had a mk7 GTI perf package as a daily for 7 years and 100k+ miles, i have to say well done. Buttons FTW. First thing I had to do is disable the soundaktor so it stopped sounding like a VR6.
@@dreamcrusher112 My neighbour has a 2017 Golf R and his DSG just shat itself completely, he was 6 months away from having to pay that out of pocket, luckily he is covered by warranty. He is the only owner of it since brand new, he is a guy in his 50's that loves cars and had multiple Alfas, bikes etc. So he is not just some dipshit 21 y/o that bought a cheap one with 12 owners that trashed it. Served by the book at the dealer etc.. In sweden here it went so far with the DSG trannies even on normal VW*s that a lot of taxi companies if buying VW refused to buy the DSG transmissions due to the insane failure rates.
@@henrik1743 So I'm a "guy in his 50s" with a Golf DSG, who has owned motorbikes, a heavily modified WRX, a 911 and other fun toys. Did bike track days and car track days - and stuffed the gearbox on the WRX twice (3rd gear both times). The DSG in my MK7 GTi has been golden so far - but just for 120k kms... (no track days though, to be fair...) I do hate the plastic sump on the engine, but DSG is incredible in terms of gear shift speed, paddle access and "auto" capability. No issues for me so far, but I am not on internet forums for Golfs so haven't heard the horror stories...
Get proper tires and you'll be fine. If I can tackle snow in my E85 fed IS38 swapped FWD egg. A much skimpier Stage 1 car should have even less issues. FWD does amazing in the snow. You need the tires for it though.
@@Peylix I had proper winter tires. There was no trouble getting around in the snow at all. It just wasn't fun to spin the tires all the time when it wasn't snowing, and objectively RWD and AWD are more fun in the snow.
There's been a lot of regulation changes between these two models. Things the 7 could do the 8 had to find new ways. We test drove the EV version of the 7 here in Germany. It was literally a ICE and tank delete replace with an electric motor and battery pack. The 8 has been designed to be EV ready. So you could argue the 7 is the peak of IC design. We actually ordered a golf 7 comby from the factory. The order was delayed due to the regulation changes that meant all the engines needed upgrading. We cancelled the order and bought a showroom Touran, which is also baced on the golf 7 platform. 180kph is the top speed before the 1.4L engine gives out to the buffeting drag over the bigger body. The front right shock absorber was blown from the first test drive. And the ACC can easily get bumped out of calibration. Costing 400 Euro to restore. The panorama roof leaks and still needs fixing. Other than that a great car.
The MK7 and the MK4 are honestly the two nicest "modern" golfs we have. Every other one just looked wrong in some way. The MK8 is massive and looks more like a Crossover, every time I see one on the street I think its closer to a Tiguan. The MK6 has a less than flattering rear, same with the MK5, they're still heaps nicer than the MK8, but not as good as the MK4 or MK7. And the big one (for me) The MK7 and 7.5 were the last golfs to be made as a 3 door. To me, a Golf is a 3 door. Its just their best form imo
Do yourself a favor and buy a model year ~2000 Passat or an A4 B5/B6. Passat 3bs have the space benefit of being based on the model year equivalent Audi A6 chassis, both come with a bullet proof 1.8T or 1.9TDIs, just bolt the facelift K04 on the 1.8T and 180kWs are yours without the added electric gremlin hustle. 1.9 TDIs make stupid comfortable long distance cruisers for families and their caravan with corresponding fuel economy thanks to variable turbos and will with some minor tweaks make 180kWs also maintainining emissions. Whilst still having cash to spare for a good holiday compared to one of these Golfs...🤷♂
Too bad you blokes don't get the best Golf R, which is the manual Mk8. Today I test drove both a DSG and a manual, and sure the DSG is quick, but it's so incredibly boring compared to the manual, no driver engagement or involvement or fun.
I love this, I'm an ex MK6 Golf R owner, had it for 10years, when i was looking to upgrade we wanted to go from 2 cars to one so we needed something that does it all we ordered a 2022 Audi SQ2, this has the new engine with 7spd S-Tronic (DSG) from the current S3 has the latest version of the Haldex but no torque vectoring and most of all has the interior from the previous gen S3 with proper buttons and the latest Sonas audio so everything works inside. Check one out if you get the chance, i'll be doing some simple mods to ours over time but worth a look.
So stoked for this series as I've actually just picked up a MK7.5 GTI (2021 White Silver Metallic SE 6MT w/Performance Pack) to have fun with on the track and within reason on the street!
As soon as Marty said manual seats and no touch screen nonsense, I was sold. I'd rather have the 7.5 vs the 8. And that's even if they were identically priced. Add on the savings for future mods and it's definitely better.
Oh shit Marty has the same car as me! Performance pack, upgraded headlights, white, four door, dual clutch, Clark plaid seats. Only difference is I have upgraded rims. Such a perfect car, all the power you can use, all the practicality you could want. I am vindicated!
Guys, Marty bought my car! I have the samre year model USDM 2019 GTI. Mine has the leather seats with the sun roof and a racing stripe, but it is white and I love it. Thanks for coming to your senses. The VAG life rules. 😁
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You can also install ac cooled seats into that mk7. Could make for a throwback mcm episode like the good ‘ol days…Think about it 😉
Why you need awd in australia.. i get it here in Quebec cause we have real winter but in australia ??? Why pay more ?? 💯
Now that you have changed to the Golf Channel on youtube... can you get a Golf Country and do a offroad episode?
Love how the boys remain extremely frugal despite their success. Part of the appeal of MCM is the relatability. No wide body Lambos in sight 😂
I mean isn’t the price of a run rate golf the same as a wide bodied Lambo in Aus? But totally agree.
93k for a golf ? Wouldn’t say that’s extremely frugal haha. So happy for the them though they are living the dream
That's what I am thinking too. Was a quirky auto mod channel years ago now its like a legit apparently well funded RUclips show.
Great guys!
Leave that to the Americans😁 They get a little successful and go straight to supercars🤣
What keeps me coming back to these guys is that once they blew up, they didn’t jump to Lamborghinis and Maseratis like everyone else.
Exactly this. The older, weirder and ..smaller.. the more fun we're having!
How much $ you think 1m view on RUclips does? I understand they have sponsorships but they would be on Ferraris if they could trust me 🤣
They have jumped on Lotus before 😜 but that doesn't matter. As long as they keep doing what they enjoy, I probably keep watching.
@@Grnbaracuda even then lotus feels like the nugget of the supercar world so I’d give them that
@@JA-lg3tl Merch, they are actual mechanics, they own shops + assets, etc.
I love the Marty gets to the heart of the matter of the HVAC issues. Moog says that people who actually own a Mk8 have gotten used to the new interface and it doesn't bother them. But the reality is that whether used to it or not, it's objectively worse. It introduces more actions to do the same things and removes your attention from the road to do it, making it less safe and more cumbersome. I'm glad VW announced they will go back to steering wheel buttons. Now do the same for the environment controls. I don't know if I agree that the Mk7 GTI is overall the better car, but it's definitely the one I'd rather be in right now.
The foot edit thing will NEVER get old, bloody piss myself every time, without fail. Cheers lads
I HAVE NEVER seen Moogs brain work so hard as it did looking at Marty during that intro 10/10 would watch again!
marty winding moog up always epic love the chemistry you guys have.
He's so easy to wind up despite spending 90% of his time doing the same to Martin, it's amazing
Honestly, the Mark 7 and 7.5 Golf GTIs are great value for a very practical and fun car.
Yeah if you like dealing with early DSG issues.
@@weseethetruth158 that’s bs
@@cihans4923 yeah sure I'm just a VW group certified mechanic what do I know...🤦♂️🤣🤣🤣
@@weseethetruth158i have a golf 7 with dsg and 265k km never had an issue 🤷♂️
@@DISPIQERI you're either lying or should contact the VAG offices to be celebrated.
11:58 PREACH Moog! 100% agree with you and so glad it was said, this video should be a disclaimer on every sale of a shit crackle tune. Love you guys!
I needed to hear it lol. Pop tune is not going back
Amen
I'm so glad it came up and he just let loose on it. I'm going to have to send this clip to anyone who defends a crackle tune.
As a vw tech I hate cars coming in with pop and crackle tunes... no resonator droning everywhere...yuck.. give me a clean borla exhaust and a proper tune anyday.
No pop tunes are so annoying, but I can't Hate on someone that likes them it's thier car I guess but I won't do it , he'll I started out no cat straight pipe sounded like crap now hf cat and dual mufflers
Loving the new addition Marty! 🤙🏼
Talking of Shannons Insurance plugs though, I have to give 2 thumbs up for Shannons. I have a modified turbo SAAB, and they were the only mob that would insure me. When some random lady ran up the back of me, not only did Shannons have my car fixed within a week, they also organised an uber to pick me up from the repairer to take me to the rental car place for my new Kia rental (which Shannons also provided), while Saab got fixed. I had never experienced such excellent service.
Good to hear this, we’ve had good experiences too over the years
@@mightycarmods Can't go wrong with them hey. Cheers for the reply. Keen to see T&T3 this xmas. Take care fellas ✌🏻
Thanks for your positive feedback on your claims experience with us
@@ShannonsInsurance Hi! Was a pleasure to say so. I have my car and 2 motorcycles with you. Literally the best insurance company. Shannons insurance and their staff deserve the praise 💯
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I owned a Mark 7 GTI. Unfortunately, had to get rid of it. I miss that thing. You two guys are and always will be the best. Thanks for all you do.
Due to fly to Poland in the early hours of the morning and struggling to find content for the plane! MCM comes through once again! Cheers boys 🙂
are you bringing the wock
@@vman1011able It's already there
If it was really about purity for Marty he would have bought a manual!
That's where the mods would come into play, no way it's going to be auto forever.
@@MarcSola7 I wonder if they’re planning on turning the mk7.5 into an awd to see how much cheaper they can copy the mk8 performance. That would be pretty cool.
@@samsonian it wouldnt marty literally said its always been a front wheel drive performance car
Yep and dodged the dsg issues
@@MarcSola7 it's a dsg so I'm assuming it wont change
id like to see a volvo make it to the channel, maybe a V70R/S60R ... something different than the regular vag cars
Fuck that- Volvo 260!!!
Volvo 240 would be nice 😂 Mighty Brick Mods
@@MrBrooksie97 Nissan 240 vs Volvo 240
Would love a C30 T5
pfff, volvo has been taken over by drifters and been trashed in sweden and scandinavia by the inbreds in the country side.
Get an Alfa or something instead ;)
Guys, being a Golf fan, I can tell you only one thing - I followed you for the past 15 years because of the JDM content mainly, and the more in dept and detailed hardcore projects, please don't step away from them! Please! :)
BTW Great job as always, you guys put lots of effort and heart into your content, and this is why you have follower since the beginning!
SO stoked on this episode because I literally just bought a 2019 GTI Rabbit edition in white and I absolutely love it!! Cheers boys!!
This fills me with happiness. As a fellow Golf driver, albeit a base model, and a mk 7.5 you will grow to love it.
That's like growing to love genital herpes. I guess some people like the itch.
"Understanding is probably the most important thing really, so you can have an informed opinion." Good life lesson there.
Im very keen on the build on this MK7.5 GTI. I am lucky enough to have the same car, though in the USA the base model has different headlights and no LCD Dash its analog. I love my GTI, its the underdog, but surprises everyone. Just Love it!!
I’ve had my MK7.5 gti for almost 6 months now. It’s the best all rounder hot hatch. It does everything really well. It’s a classic too, been going for years. It just feels special. Love it.
I’m so excited for this series. Currently in the market for a golf 7.5 GTI or R for a daily and it’s genuinely a harder decision than I expected
You'll get board of the R. 7.5 GTI Performance pack is what you want if you insist on wanting a VW. There is better value out there though if you go for a 5F Seat Leon Cupra facelift, arguably the car Volkswagen should of made and also the better car.
I'm a TDI guy but the golf is just so lovable. Perfect daily drivers all around.
Aye, I have a mk6 Tdi and it’s such a fun little touqie car
@@chucknorris2938 same here. I love my mk6 TDI unreasonably so
The TDI is dope. You can still tune those a bit. Not as well as the 2.0T, but enough for loads of fun while still retaining that amazing fuel economy. I was looking to get a TDI, then Dieselgate happened.
I'm in Team Marty. I'd be a Mk I camp if there was one.
You might have to settle for Mk2 camp, Mk1 GTI's were never sold here so the dozen or so cars that are on our shores are worth more than Martys 7.5
Would have been nice to see a old vs new series. Was hoping Marty had purchased a vr6 of some sort like a mk4 and then did a turbo build and put them to the test
I was fuckin sure he’d poached a vr6. Or at least a r32
R32s are £15k in the UK and we've got tons of them, probably more expensive than a mk8 over there
But the vr6 is a heavy pig.
@@foreverjim5240 Exactly, as cool as a VR6 is , if you want to turbo one of them you'll be spending a minimum of 20-25k to have it done right , that is the same price in the UK, Canada or the US, they are not simply off the shelf parts , talk to any Vag specialist and they'll tell you to get a GTI Mark 5 or newer, I have had a series of Mk iv Golfs and the newer ones are cheaper and easier to mod and get big HP out of them
@@99unclebob You don't want to turbo a VR6 anyway. You want to super charge it to keep the responsiveness and the sound. I can't believe with all the VWs the guys have never done a VR6.
Edit: That sounded negative. What I meant was, I’m surprised getting a VR6 car didn’t happen already, just because the show has done a lot of VW stuff.
Even my Dacia Duster came with Bonnet struts from factory. And that car costs less than 20k Euros brand new. (Starting at 14k. With every option about 20k)
I've been watching this 2 bloke since they started in their garage and remember the rusted with kits vw. I even lost count how many cars they had modified. I'm happy to see their superb progress and very fine content. Keep it up MartyCarMoog or Mighty Car Mods!
I'm about to become a Great Grandfather and I still enjoy every episode of MCM
And look forward to my weekly adventures, thumbs up boys
Congratulations my man! You must feel very proud
Congratulations from a fellow great grandfather from 🇬🇧
Cheers dits
Boys. You keep driving past my place. Come in for a beverage
It's always fun watching you guys give and take shit back and forth, even when it's about some dumb modern like these VWs. I just don't get the appeal of cars like this off track, they're fast as hell but whenever I drive hot moderns on the street I just don't connect or feel much interest, maybe you have to have a couple of guys like the 2 of you riding along busting each others chops. Fun episode, "meh" car
I used to love driving my mk5 golf with performance lowering springs on country roads it seemed to shine the most on them up the wide bend hills makes me miss it seeing this. Highly recommend a country road trip!!
14:58 How bad ass is that cop car!!
Yeah, they really fill your rear screen with lights and noise. They're not bad ass at that point.
Surprised but you guys have never once talked about the Fiesta ST or Focus ST. The performance of those cars are right there with other hot hatches.
Well, they had/have a Focus RS, anyway. Even went to the factory maybe a few years ago.
@@OllamhDrab True, but the STs are the similar story that the GTI has to the R. They are often not mentioned because of all the hype around the RS.
As an owner of one, the Fiesta ST is filled with the nuggety turbo fun that these blokes love
@@beaulunawolf1198 Well, here in the US we don't get the RS, or at least the latest versions, that I know of, so the ST is what we have 'instead.' I wonder if they're that common where both are available.
I absolutely love my Mk7 GTI! It’s like the perfect balance between performance and practicality for the price. Can’t wait until you feel a tune with a downpipe, the difference is crazy!
Well I must say, that is one MOTHER of a saving for the 7.5 v the 8, just huge. The issues Moog spoke about were not mechanical, so just a few E-gremlins. I am more interested in the comparo from a mechanical standpoint - and am looking forward to future vids. Good job boys on keeping your show as interesting AF! Cheers.
I have watched MCM since the beginning, but lately it feels more like a flex now. Look bought this,look we bought this.
I'm with Marty on this one. I could never spend so much on a car.
I was spoiled in the mk7.5. Crazy how much bang for buck you get. Electronic lsd, performance pack has bigger brakes, all this stuff comes stock. I chose the S trim for the same reason Marty did 😂 sunroof delete is the best and tartan cloth/plaid seats are so good.
As a golf GTI owner, I am very happy about this development.
8:25 lol poor Moog's face, the second Marty started listing things that could be done for 40k Moog was speechless. Marty getting the 7.5 just to fuck with Moog is priceless though, clearly the better value option even if the 8 is overall a better car (when the quirks are fixed?)
The mk7 gti the best daily I’ve ever bought. FBO a clutch and a tune, and decent rubber Car makes 450 to the wheels, and always puts a smile on my face. And the mk7 gti is cylinder head is better than the mk7R head… There is a reason Vw went back and put the gti cylinder head on the mk8 🤙🏼 cheers to the Vag content made my day.
Why not a Stinger or an N? A fiesta ST? A Skoda VRS wagon? Cmon boys - try something different!!!
as a white MK7.5 GTI owner i'm excited to see where this goes!
Ditto my dude.
So will all the Mk8 GTI owners and Skoda Octavia VRS MK4 owners as we got the same engine as the Mk7.5 in Australia with IS20 turbo.
The mk7.5 was my dream car in highschool, now my dad and I both own mk8s, so I'm really looking forward to content with both these cars!
The picture and comment doesn't go together lol... you were probably in high school before the mk1 was ever dreamed up.🤣🤣🤣
@@weseethetruth158 just started my 65th year of highschool! This is the year I graduate, I can tell already!
That highway patrol police car looks like it should be on a NASCAR track with numbers on the side!!
Hey Guys, Marty it definitely needs a tune. I have a MY 15 (built Dec 14) 6 spd Gti that I have owned since new and it’s a daily driver. I got a Revo stage 1 tune and a Sachs clutch. Transforms the car. 184 kw on a hub dyno. Other mods include a wavetrac LSD, xForce cat back, Golf R rear lights. Plan to go stage 2 and a BBK eventually. Have had major mechanical problems which afflicted the early mk7 but still love the gti. Looking forward to see how your Gti turns out
As the owner of a MY13 mk6 golf GTi, the ECU and DSG Remap is game changing. The gear shift is so fast.
The jump between my old MK5 and my recent 7.5 was absolutely remarkable. On an ‘08 2.0 FSI, with an IC, downpipe, full host of bolt-ons and full software (ECU/TCU) upgrade, I was still 30-40hp below what my new 7.5 GTI can achieve with a simple Stage 1 remap. Couldn’t love it more.
STOP IT! I don't need your "help" trying to justify to my wife how much better for the planet it would be if I "just" had a 300bhp GTi (with remapped DSG, 'cos it would be rude not to...)
@@QuarkGluonSpasma the jump must be unreal. The mk5 was prone to gear box issues from what I read…?
@@thomascarruthers4397 Indeed, my particular model year had a warranty extension up to 100k miles on the mechatronic units in the DSGs. I was fortunate to avoid any such issues, other than the beginnings of some clutch slippage around the time I eventually parted with the car, but at that point there was 175k miles on the car (around 120k after tuning/upgrading). But, yes, the 5 was a blast, but the 7 is quite practically a whole new level of car.👍
This is actually insane and i still don't want to believe it - mk8 is a huge step back.
love you guys, just dont care about shopping cars. cant wait for the next mighty MOD
Nice, you put our old Turbos and TÜV plate on:-) Greetings Björn
I'm really looking forward to this. Bought my 2018 GTI for 28k usd back in March 2019. It's insane seeing what the Mk8 prices are.
Highest prio (probably no brainer) is getting some lighter wheels. Those stock wheels are close to 30lbs each.
I love my Mk7 for so many reasons - buttons included. I’m actually genuinely concerned I won’t like the MK8 R I have on order because the MK7 has been so good.
I’m just an old lady. But I honestly love the 8. All accept the seats that no longer have an adjustable head brace. And the plaid in the 7 is cuter.
Really love those seats in the MK7, They give such a retro charm and look pretty nice in a white car.
A car from 5 years ago should not be retro 😂
@@MrSamu923 it's an old design revived in a new model, That literally makes it retro in this case.
OH MY DAYS 2x Golf’s - starting to look like my garage boys!
So excited to see what you guys do to the GTI! I’ve got one of my own and I was got so excited when I saw the corner of the front bumper in the thumbnail!
Love that the boys have Golf's now. As a bloke thats only ever had Golf's they are such good cars. I now own a MK.7.5 GTI TCR
Holy shit I’m so excited to see what you do to the GTI. I’m looking at doing a 7.5 GTI or GLI, haven’t decided yet. But I’m pumped to see this.
I have a White Silver Metallic MK7.5 GTI myself since 2019 it is just awesome, put some 19' OZ Wheels, KW Suspension and a Remus Catback exhaust on👍🏻
@@kai_291 That sounds awesome. I know there’s more cool things available for the GTI but with the 2019 and newer GLI’s actually finally getting the same engine it really makes me want to give it some love. They have the potential to be highway weapons without looking like a ticket magnet, and that’s kind of what I’m gonna be going for.
@@HypnoticMilotic we don't get the Jetta's here in Germany so if you like to go for it, I bet they are awesome aswell
GTI if you don't have kids. GLI if you do.
Subie till I die but recently I found myself looking at either a Toyota Chaser or a Nissan Stagea, I would love a double unicorn R34 front end like mechanical Stiggs
I didn't like golfs until I bought one, and I changed my mind about them. They are brilliant cars 🤯
imagine how you would feel about other european cars as the vw is the entry point, european cars are really good but expensive daily drivers
@@alec5443 not in europe. cheap. lol but rs3 m140i or the pug gt are just as good. but generally speakin our european cars suck compared to the japanese hatches.
Some ricer tried to race my 18 GTI through a set of 3 roundabouts. That’s the first time I ever pushed it hard through turns. Incredible handling. Embarrassing for anything else
Agree, ended up with a GTD as my new E350 AMGline PP black edition Touring (stupid long name) was delayed...... I cancelled the Merc kept the GTD 4 years!!!! After 5 years.... I'm back in a Mk7 Golf R. I'm in love ❤️❤️❤️
@@kdotroy1 seat Leon cupra all day long
14:58 cops roll past you both 🤣 Moog probably freaking out a bit seeing them in rear view mirror lol.
As someone who doesn't care much for VW in general, the Mk7 and 7.5 are exceptionally good. If you can only have one car and it needs to be fun, you can't go wrong with a MK7 even if it's completely stock.
After the GTI it would be interesting to see how far you could take a base Golf 1.4TSI.
The mk1 gti with vr6 is a gem. When Marty mentioned it at the beginning, I thought he bought one! :(
Mate same I really wanted him to have one sitting there
The Mk1 Golf only ever had 4 cylinder engines, even the GTI. First few years had a 1.6l with 110 hp, but it was later switched to a 1.8l with 112 hp, both taken from the Audi 80.
@@wowdogeful For sure. I meant swapped v6 or even the engine from the r32. The vr6, from what I've read, is not much heavier than the mk1 engines so it becomes a great car! It's a very common swap for the mk1.
I'd love to see you guys do a gtr or a skyline or supra or something big jdm I miss those times
Nah, it's been done to death. I wanna see them rocking a suzuki swift
@@coolkidscarclub hell yeah
Pretty much every other cartuber has you covered there.
Euros don't get as much love, especially VW. So it's a nice & fresh breath of air when it does happen.
@@Peylix see I live in the UK all I see is bmw seat and vw and stupid fiesta St's with pops and bangs
Bring back the nuggets! Missing you guys wrenching and suffering bellow a car. Way funnier and more original to what MCM were.
In South Africa that, in that condition it would've been sold for as a new second hand... The automotive industry is not really requalated people do cut cars in half and sell them to customers who don't even know that the car has crashed before.
I really love the Australia and America when it comes to car market and second hand car market.
For the price of the 7.5gti you can buy a Cupra 5F modify it and really slay the 8R.
but a cupra is a golf with a seat badge on it
@@zulous Exactly, same car but cheaper.
@@zulous isn't that the point?
@@Researcher83 It has the R engine and the RS3 full bushings. It s like a golf gti clubsport but way cheaper and more capable.
@@Researcher83 except people only see the badge and not the what the car is
Would love to see the guys in an i30N and see their thoughts
Gotta love a MK7, whether that be a base model, GTI, R, or variant aka Sportwagen, like I have. Not my first golf, but is my first awd wagon. The mods are absolutely endless. Grats on the great find :)
Love my Golf S. That 1.8 is pretty stout, looking forward to tuning it soon.
Love the premise of this guys! Modded newish car versus brand new unmodded. Keen to see the results.
Loved this review it kind of brought home a lot of the reviews around the 8 especially how much distraction is caused in the air con drag race. I feel like the golf has always felt substantial and that's it's appeal. I think the 7.5 did it best and feels like the ultimate evolution whereas the 8 feels like they are changing the mold maybe making interiors that are expected in Hyundai's but lacks the usability golfs used to be synonymous for.
Should’ve bought an edition 40😅 but yeah the 7.5 gti is a great choice. You guys should look into galano flex tunes for the gti
He could've got a manual with the performance pack then too! Ik someone with a manual 40th and it's an amazing car
@@tally5k339 that’s what I mean, would’ve been a great car for Marty haha. I’ve got one and it’s absolutely crazy
Probably wouldn't have been top of the 'sort by cheapest' list then....
@@ad_fletch true, but 40k is still cheaper than 80-90k 😂
“When you remove the emotion from the argument and just look at the facts and figures objectively” I don’t think I have ever herd something sound more like the manufacture talking. emotion is why we are all car nuts in the first place. Emotion is what drives us to modify cars. To buy old cars that are objectively worse then there newer counterparts and fix them up and modify them.
Great episode, really enjoyed it. Would you guys ever consider modding a Hyundai i30N?
Mk7 owner here. I've done a decent amount of mods on my car, spread out so I could really tell the difference (and for budgetary reasons). A set of sticky tires, and beefy rear sway bar, and a tune (with clutch if manual trans) TRANSFORM this car into a canyon slaying beast. For the price, it really can't be beat. The classy interior and respectable mpg's certainly help, too.
having had a mk7 GTI perf package as a daily for 7 years and 100k+ miles, i have to say well done. Buttons FTW. First thing I had to do is disable the soundaktor so it stopped sounding like a VR6.
Great times the VW Golf hits on everything you need for a fun daily car.
Except reliability with the DSG box, horrible, horrible reliability issues and failure rates.
Especially on your wallet when it will break.... Constantly
@@henrik1743 not heard of this with the more modern boxes
@@dreamcrusher112 My neighbour has a 2017 Golf R and his DSG just shat itself completely, he was 6 months away from having to pay that out of pocket, luckily he is covered by warranty. He is the only owner of it since brand new, he is a guy in his 50's that loves cars and had multiple Alfas, bikes etc. So he is not just some dipshit 21 y/o that bought a cheap one with 12 owners that trashed it. Served by the book at the dealer etc..
In sweden here it went so far with the DSG trannies even on normal VW*s that a lot of taxi companies if buying VW refused to buy the DSG transmissions due to the insane failure rates.
@@henrik1743 So I'm a "guy in his 50s" with a Golf DSG, who has owned motorbikes, a heavily modified WRX, a 911 and other fun toys. Did bike track days and car track days - and stuffed the gearbox on the WRX twice (3rd gear both times). The DSG in my MK7 GTi has been golden so far - but just for 120k kms... (no track days though, to be fair...) I do hate the plastic sump on the engine, but DSG is incredible in terms of gear shift speed, paddle access and "auto" capability. No issues for me so far, but I am not on internet forums for Golfs so haven't heard the horror stories...
Stage 1 APR Mk7 GTI was a blast. Not so much in the snow unfortunately.
Get proper tires and you'll be fine. If I can tackle snow in my E85 fed IS38 swapped FWD egg. A much skimpier Stage 1 car should have even less issues. FWD does amazing in the snow. You need the tires for it though.
@@Peylix I had proper winter tires. There was no trouble getting around in the snow at all. It just wasn't fun to spin the tires all the time when it wasn't snowing, and objectively RWD and AWD are more fun in the snow.
There's been a lot of regulation changes between these two models. Things the 7 could do the 8 had to find new ways. We test drove the EV version of the 7 here in Germany. It was literally a ICE and tank delete replace with an electric motor and battery pack. The 8 has been designed to be EV ready. So you could argue the 7 is the peak of IC design. We actually ordered a golf 7 comby from the factory. The order was delayed due to the regulation changes that meant all the engines needed upgrading. We cancelled the order and bought a showroom Touran, which is also baced on the golf 7 platform. 180kph is the top speed before the 1.4L engine gives out to the buffeting drag over the bigger body. The front right shock absorber was blown from the first test drive. And the ACC can easily get bumped out of calibration. Costing 400 Euro to restore. The panorama roof leaks and still needs fixing. Other than that a great car.
When Moog roasted the P plater crackle boys. I have been waiting for this for a very long time, pure truth from the man
Recently bought a Mk 7.5 as well and adore it.
I can’t wait to see what mods you guys do to Marty’s.
How much did you pick it up for
Too many newer cars lately were are the nuggets
I absolutely love my GTI. So much fun and so much practicality, I can do ikea runs, be comfy and still fast. Doesn't get better.
From JDM wars to VAG wars 💀💀
I firmly believe that you guys make THE BEST youtube content of any genre. Hands down!
The MK7 and the MK4 are honestly the two nicest "modern" golfs we have. Every other one just looked wrong in some way. The MK8 is massive and looks more like a Crossover, every time I see one on the street I think its closer to a Tiguan. The MK6 has a less than flattering rear, same with the MK5, they're still heaps nicer than the MK8, but not as good as the MK4 or MK7.
And the big one (for me)
The MK7 and 7.5 were the last golfs to be made as a 3 door. To me, a Golf is a 3 door. Its just their best form imo
😂 Man I remember when Marty used to hate the the GTI’s and R’s. Now look at him 😂
I suppose with age comes wisdom haha , I’m not there yet I still buy rust boxes
Moog has Rick rolled us again
Damn, now we all have to buy golfs 😂
I already have the little sister. And even though it is the Diesel Gate version, I still LOVE IT.
Do yourself a favor and buy a model year ~2000 Passat or an A4 B5/B6. Passat 3bs have the space benefit of being based on the model year equivalent Audi A6 chassis, both come with a bullet proof 1.8T or 1.9TDIs, just bolt the facelift K04 on the 1.8T and 180kWs are yours without the added electric gremlin hustle. 1.9 TDIs make stupid comfortable long distance cruisers for families and their caravan with corresponding fuel economy thanks to variable turbos and will with some minor tweaks make 180kWs also maintainining emissions. Whilst still having cash to spare for a good holiday compared to one of these Golfs...🤷♂
PS: They´re lower in insurance too, because accidents only happen to people with AK47 tunez...
Welcome to the GTI club Marty!
Love my 2016 manual 40 years 195kw stock 213kw on over boost for passing it is a fun drive!
My all time favorite RUclipsrs now own my all time favorite car. I’m so happy and can’t wait for the GTI mods!
One day we'll get the VR6 swapped Mk2 love we deserve.
Too bad you blokes don't get the best Golf R, which is the manual Mk8.
Today I test drove both a DSG and a manual, and sure the DSG is quick, but it's so incredibly boring compared to the manual, no driver engagement or involvement or fun.
Problem is, its a VW
I love this, I'm an ex MK6 Golf R owner, had it for 10years, when i was looking to upgrade we wanted to go from 2 cars to one so we needed something that does it all we ordered a 2022 Audi SQ2, this has the new engine with 7spd S-Tronic (DSG) from the current S3 has the latest version of the Haldex but no torque vectoring and most of all has the interior from the previous gen S3 with proper buttons and the latest Sonas audio so everything works inside. Check one out if you get the chance, i'll be doing some simple mods to ours over time but worth a look.
So stoked for this series as I've actually just picked up a MK7.5 GTI (2021 White Silver Metallic SE 6MT w/Performance Pack) to have fun with on the track and within reason on the street!
As soon as Marty said manual seats and no touch screen nonsense, I was sold. I'd rather have the 7.5 vs the 8. And that's even if they were identically priced. Add on the savings for future mods and it's definitely better.
Oh shit Marty has the same car as me! Performance pack, upgraded headlights, white, four door, dual clutch, Clark plaid seats. Only difference is I have upgraded rims. Such a perfect car, all the power you can use, all the practicality you could want. I am vindicated!
Guys, Marty bought my car! I have the samre year model USDM 2019 GTI. Mine has the leather seats with the sun roof and a racing stripe, but it is white and I love it. Thanks for coming to your senses. The VAG life rules. 😁
The nice thing about the Mk8 Golf is the awesome, dazzling, halo fairy angel light between the headlights. 😝
I’ve had my 7.5 perf for about 5 months now. Great to see the recognition from the car gods themselves