Mormon Temple Endowment 2023 - The Film-makers tell all, kind of! Feat Nemo The Mormon
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- On the 22nd of March 2023 a new RUclips channel named ‘AdamNEveDon’tBelieve’ posted its first video. The video was a secret recording of the LDS Temple Endowment Ceremony from the POV of a sister. The video was 1 hour and 29 minutes long. It was taken down by YT on the 24th of March 2023 following a Digital Media and Copyright Act (DMCA) report for copyright infringement by ‘Intellectual Reserve Inc’.
Now the makers of the video join PD and Nemo The Mormon to tell all, or as much as they are willing, about their experience.
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Full Temple Endowment Movie here fb.watch/jNbZ1iY_Mz/
I watched 5 minutes of the new version. I liked mine better in the SLC Temple before it was torn down . I got to get up and sit then walk to beautifully painted rooms🤣🤣🤣🤣 I memorized all the stuff and my husband after 10 years still did not know the little dance sissy at the veil😂
@@robinnetto6794 it is being sanitised beyond recognition. Sad
I wondered how it had changed. My mind kept adding “this is the sign,token and penalty!” I can’t believe that there was a time I actually thought that was from God…
@@2012VivianHuh. Wild.
It's been taken down :(
Said it before and I'll say it again...God ain't some 9 yr old with a clubhouse where you have to give the secret passwords and handshakes to get in and promise not to tell anyone about it when everyone already knows all about it and thinks it's lame.
😂 so true. In his clubhouse!!! 😂
I was outraged and angry for at least a year before I could even recognize my sadness. I heard RFM recently share how badly he wanted the church to be true. That was me. I still wish the forever together stuff was true, as illogical as it is. But that was my weakness, feeling alone in the world. I asked to be baptized at the end of discussion 1, in 1999. I’m grieving for the loss of my imaginary friend / family. Thanks to the Prince, RFM., Mormon Stories, and too many others to mention, I feel healthy, strong, and happy now. Thanks! Free to think, feels pretty good now.
It is a visceral reaction to finding the truth.
Did you believe in Jesus when you were Mormon? What made you stop believing in Jesus?
@@bryanpratt5850 I don’t believe I’ve discussed my belief in Jesus. I believed long before I’d ever heard the word Mormon. I don’t believe the Mormon church’s doctrine about Him
@@2022Coopersmom thanks for your response, I was just curious about what you meant by your imaginary friend, so when you said that, it sounded like you are atheist, but I wasn’t sure. When I found out the Mormon church was all a fraud, it felt like my whole world fell apart. Didn’t know what was real, since I could sense that I exist, I had to acknowledge the fact of God, since I could not see any other explanation of my existence as valid. I had to research the Bible to see if it was solid or not, that’s how I started or perhaps kept on believing in Jesus, but ever since then, I’ve had to sift through which parts were from my Mormon background and which parts were supported from the Bible. It’s still an ongoing process 10 years later.
Sounds like you have your reward then...
When I watched Adam & Eve’s recording I thought to myself “For and in behalf of ‘all my ancestors.’” There,,done in one session!
Exactly!!
For everyone who has, is or will live on earth.
Well, the biblical stance against “messing or calling on the dead, for help or information.”
This practice was adopted from the occult. Nimrod called through the demonic spirit ENKI which was to help them live long lives: as they did before the flood. Through this, also comes the different probations from the SAGES, witchcraft who called for ancestral power .
The symbolic signs in the temple; go past the current form of MASONRY TO the prior group of “gods Inanna, Ishtar, Lilith all fertility Jewish mythology and Babylonian Talmud. Lilith is claimed in the mythology Is Adams’ first wife before Eve. This is also where Mormons get the female god, that they call Mother. There is no female god except in occultism. There is ONE FATHER GOD WHO SPOKE and it was.
Occultist pervert sexual identity. Occult steal and confuse who you are so they promote their gods as both female and male.
Talking about the need for many wives is pulled from the the occult and is practiced in the Muslim’s faith today. Polygamy is a practice that connects to the corrupt use of women: who are looked at as property with no value, for centuries.
Each man legally can have 4 wives in the Muslim culture today. They can kill their wives when they feel disrespected.
In Enoch 69 he talks about the chiefs of angels Jeqon, the one who led all the sons of God astray. In chapter 15 the nephilim and demons are discussed.
The occult is an ancient convoluted sum of beliefs, and Mormons practice several of the them which come directly from the demonic history.
Joseph Smith had access to all these beliefs from Dartmouth University. It is from here that his brother Hyrum, was studying and sharing these ideas with the family. The family was extremely educated, and several family members had positions and connections with the educational system.
Many gods and reaching godhood is a Hindu belief.
To have your own worlds is their purpose just as Mormons.
Probationary lives is another adopted and twisted concept: so only you come back as man again and again.
This is the premortal seed that was copied and used as corrosion: you must attain worthiness.
The double speak and teachings are chaos because Joseph Smith brought ideas together and would change, add to, and makeup reasons to justify his own actions and call all things from god.
Mormonism can have all it’s original aspects and beliefs connect straight to OCCULTISM.
Here in the temple they have rewritten their own history and applied rules and thoughts from an array of ideas. None of which comes from a source of God. Once one studies the Bible, it is clear that truth has been the same for thousands of years. …..until we needed a guy like Joseph Smith….to do what his impotent God couldn’t do.
He also took all the pharisaical practices from the church in the day of Christ, and reestablished it again.
The very ideas that Christ called “vipors” “wicked”, think people are beginning to see that the organization is “money hungry”instead of tender hearted towards the least of these.
Ask yourselves: if the church has been helping the needy as they claim, then how did they have funds to invest? What math do you do to get 252 BILLION, and at the same time claim you attend to the needs of others. It’s obvious that they are tending to their needs alone! It’s a crime to be a church, I mean an organization who says “. Help the helpless, and they only take other people’s money and shame you if you yourself are the ones who need your own income. Feed the beast!
If you don’t pay, you can’t participate, nor are you considered worthy; and, don’t pay attention to the hypocrisy; like going through the temple for your dead families… that’s occult!
We are all brothers & sisters;
Sons & daughters of the living God. You don’t need to be married in the hereafter because brothers and sisters are family.
But believing in the Hindu, Muslims beliefs :we all will have our own worlds.
So complicated when you go down the rabbit hole. It’s always dark down there!
Final point: the covenant path that Christ Himself made is the Blood covenant that HE MAKES WITH THOSE WHO BELIEVE ON HIS NAME. YOU RECEIVE THE GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE! The powerful name holds all the power. It is in HIS NAME ALONE THAT ALL knees will BOW BEFORE HIM. You are taught that you need the priesthood. False. You as a believer have the authority to do all things in his name.
Ephesians 6 .
The restored priesthood is another lie. It is a power, yes, it’s the power to keep women from speaking and in their place.
The believers authority reflects the PERFECT LOVE OF THE FATHER TO ALL HIS CHILDREN.
God is not a BOSS and you are not the WORKER! Prodigal son is the love of the Father. The brother who did not join in the celebration, had a boss worker relationship with his father. The father said “ do you not Know that everything I have is yours? There is no earning your position.
We have a FATHER. Get to know Him in your closets and stop the madness of thinking that you are so worthless that you have to whip yourself.
Your FATHER IS CALLING. He loves you because of who you are, not what you do.
The lie is so insidious.
Amen, Eve! I also had a MASSIVE, massive issue with having to veil my face AND covenant to obey my husband. It felt wrong down to my bones.
It was always so random that they would make you veil your face but give no reason or explanation for it. The explain some of the tiniest things like the marks in the garments. But totally ignore the veils and bakers hats.
@@PriesthoodDispatches Seriously! Great point: they don't even explain it! And "Baker's hats"🤣🤣
The Temple Endowment Ceremony used to be a motion picture produced at BYU Motion Picture Studios. Now it’s a still slide presentation. You would think the 151+ BILLION dollar religion, I mean Corporation could have gone better. What can you expect from a Religion/Corporation tan by 80+ year old men. 😂
Easier to change the wording when you don’t have to worry about lip syncing.
@@PriesthoodDispatches The most sacred ordinance in Mormonism is (was) watching a movie. How Hollywood and utterly appropriate for an American religion.
What are your theories as to why the change?
@@patricianoel7782 change to the slides for ease of changing the script and language. More Jesus to appear more Christian. No idea on the Elohim at the veil change. Totally random.
My last temple trip was my birthday in February 2020. I was so bored watching the new power point thing. That was around the time when church went from 3 to 2 hours. The slide show also shortened the endowment ceremony. As COVID hit, I fell down the rabbit hole, I don’t even recall how it started, but I immediately woke up, and never went back.
The church has no concept of informed consent. I find it maddening, and I understand why people get angry. I never went through the temple, and now I wouldn't. I had a brief moment where I wanted to, but I refused to pay tithing.
A smarter decision that you knew.
Oh please someone call the wambulance
I wish this episode had 10K views but this sure a great start. Kudos to all involved in exposing the bizarre world of Mormon temple rituals.
Fingers crossed it will get there.
@@PriesthoodDispatches not in your lifetime devil worshiper.
As an ex-mormon, veil worker and former Temple Security person, I appreciate the video and discussion and I hope that especially those that are considering going through the Temple will reconsider.
Hopefully!
YES! This can help people choose with actual informed consent
Poor Chandel Campbell, a Mormon, is so ignorant about Mormonism, that she can't even spell "Recomend" She is so deluded. Somebody please help her!
@syfields8154 you mean "recommend "😂
How fall for this?
The ward missionaries taught me that we could not discuss any plans to go to the temple because satan can hear what we say and he would sabotage our trip, because …. They knew of people who died in car crashes after speaking about their temple trip. I was TERRIFIED
I was told if I wasn’t worthy something terrible would happen and heard some horrible stories like people falling and breaking legs others dying in accidents and was told it was because they were not worthy to attend we had to fly to New Zealand and I was terrified something was going to happen
Me too!!
😮
I heard stories like that too.
Very true.
PD! I'm so happy to have found you through Nemo! This was awesome and I sure love your content. And sister PD!
Welcome aboard!
Once the temple has been dedicated, why in the world would the church invite the devil in? (Even as an actor) That made no sense to me. I received my endowments in 1964. The devil being there was the most disturbing part!
Very good point. Although, Satan is the hero of the LDS Plan of Salvation. It wouldn’t work without him.
EXCELLENT point/question!!!!
I was endowed in 1984 and I was so shocked with everything that happened in the temple nothing about it was a beautiful experience. I hated it
❤❤❤❤❤ same. After 20 years: At the end of my end, I was going weekly hoping to gain something.
I was endow the same year in the Provo temple,walking distance from the MTC. After going to VanHalen, Twisted Sister, Chicago, concert.
I was always looking for something but never found it.
And they still let you in. Discernment indeed.
All of you snickering about this sacred house is Loud laughter❤ if you were wondering.
Nemo the Mormon Prince. For some, this takes on a pop music vibe with the music megastar Prince as the reference. Nemo looks a bit similar, so if we see Nemo dressed in stunning royal purple and sequins, we'll know he has adopted that identity.
😂 love it
Nemo stated he does not want to “go out like Princess Dianna” and should have added not “end up like Prince.” 😊 Love the brotherly banter between my two favorite British blokes!
At one point I realized that the only thing you needed to get past the angels to get into heaven is an excellent memory.
I went to the Temple back in the 1970s, and returned many times in the following years. I left the church in 80s thru disbelief.I kept the Temple Ritual to myself...I still remember most of it...but I am lost soul,
Be thee found then
Also, the covenant for women changed right after I lost faith, and I actually asked my Bishop to go through again because I wanted to connect with God directly instead of my non-existent husband like I did.
I got a super patronizing answer with the Priesthood version of primary voice, which is one they often take with sisters that was basically, "it's not necessary, God knows your heart."
I hate this. If it's not necessary because God knows our hearts then what is the point in this whole temple thing anyway. Why waste all the time and money. FFS
43:27 I would watch that!! I’ve been told I couldn’t linger in the celestial room a few times. L.A temple and Oakland temple.
Imagine just refusing to move. 😂
Replacing Jesus with Elohim at the veil of the temple in the endowment ceremony is, I think, the clearest and most succinct evidence of the theological confusion and spiritual bankruptcy of the LDS apostolate.
Never a truer word spoken! Thank you Paul.
Elohim was always the individual with whom you conversed at the Veil. If you didn't know that from your personal revelation during a session, then you would have been aware if you attended a "Hearing Impaired" Session, and read the Closed Captions, it clearly shows "Elohim" as the voice at the veil during the instructional section. This was as early as 1995. If you thought you were being welcomed by "The LORD" (All CAPS as in Jehovah), you were simply mistaken. That doctrine has not changed. The Lord is an interchangeable Pronoun for Jehovah (Jesus) and Our Father in Heaven (Elohim). As with almost everything in the Temple and in Church, the Brethren are finding that people are not taking the time to study, pray, ponder and seek more knowledge on their own, but are needing to be spoon fed. This is just one more example.
True! These two are so misinformed!
PD and Nemo ... good get lads
Adam and Eve ... thank you for your service.
Thanking you kindly. Adam and Eve deserve all the credit.
Michael Ballum is the best Satan. “I have something to say to these people!” *Darts eyes sharply to the audience.*
So scary!
You are mocking what we keep sacred
@@user-ux3vb5zg1pNot sacred but secret. Masonic based.
@@user-ux3vb5zg1pget over yourself
Nemo - I was endowed in 1977. You are indeed a babe in arms! 👶
I’m with you Doug!! SLC 1977.. the day of infamy.
I was endowed in 1989. I try hard not to fangirl these young people ( undignified at 76!) but it’s hard not to when I recognise how much good they’re doing. I used to comment on MS under the handle Person of Interest (doxdoxdox) but I’m fine tuning in now. I recommend the interview John had with Nemo in September 2020 to see how much ground he’s covered since then!
He is but a wee burn!
I love how respectful you are about other peoples beliefs. You are so bold and ground breaking.
Ah. Sarcasm
At the 9 minute mark, that is EXACTLY what happened to me. My dad said "get naked under the poncho" and then the temple workers were like "no they changed this rule!" 😂
So unnecessarily traumatic. Glad you got to go out your clothes back on before they started the touchy feely stuff though.
@@PriesthoodDispatches I'm just glad they only did everything symbolically, no touchy feely for me! (Back in 2006). So basically the washing and anointing were just two blessings back to back
"boiled my piss" lol never heard that before - I love it. And great video!!!
Thank you
I had a good laugh at that one!
Mesa AZ back in 2011 was 2 rooms if I remember correctly. I remember having to leave and walk upstairs to get to the veil
There were some endowment rooms upstairs and some downstairs, if memory serves. I was endowed and married there in 1976.
I’ve never been to one with stairs.
I visited the Mesa Temple in the late 80s, early 90s. Never used stairs between endowment and celestial rooms. (I was not a fan of the Mesa Temple, though it was better than LA and Idaho Falls.)
I have been in the wash.DC temple 1983, Idaho Falls temple when I was married to my late husband, I think there are steps in IF!! Jordan River temple 1983, SLC 2011, left the church right after that!! Grateful for this video
Rebecca Sirrine.. my screenwriter friend needs a video, or word-for-word transcript, of the 1979 temple marriage and endowment ceremony. Do you know where she can get it? (She wiil have this in her screenplay).
Hugely thankful for the risk A and E took to get this recorded! This recording is extremely important.
Yup. They are awesome. Share it far and wide. fb.watch/jOM_mCaZvw/
Important to who????
And why????
Eh, I'm not going to play anymore.....
You guys are boring 😴
Do you have a link to the ‘AdamNEveDon’tBelieve’ channel?
youtube.com/@AdamnEveDontBelieve
@@PriesthoodDispatchesdo they have any videos maybe unlisted? It doesn’t show anything.
I took out my endowments in the Seattle temple, one room, curtain to celestial room. In Provo, I am assigned to the city center temple where you travel. It was a movie when I went last, but you began in one room and then climbed up a narrow winding staircase when you changed shoulders for the robes and then the celestial room was on that same floor. I only did one session at the Provo city center temple, I remember getting super dizzy going to the stairs abcs the lady in front of me farting in my face 😅
🤮 farts. The Preston temple just had a small adjoining room between the kingdoms rather than stairs.
Adam expresses exactly my feelings. The pressure, the feeling as if you don't have a choice... I went through in 1993. Completely naked under the sheet and physically touched. It's was very traumatic. I left TSCC after 5 years BUT never attended the "temple" again.
Amen, me too.
Why would you go naked in the temple that's wrong. Sinful. Iv never seen anyone in my life would go naked in the temple. If this really happened I'm sorry for your experience that shouldn't have taken place at all. Perhaps they where not true to the gospels teaching.
@@chandelcampbell8580 sorry to say that pre 2005 changes, iniciatories were carried out with the patron naked with nothing but a poncho sheild to hide behind. I did it and so did thousands of others. The officiator would reach into the poncho to wash and anoint ones naked body.
I am sorry for your pain. I hope the best for you. God bless!!
@@angietyndall7337 thanks for your sympathies. They aren't required, I'm quiet happy. You can keep them.
God is Love. We are love. Fear is the opposite of Love. Love is the connective force of the universe.
I really thought Elohim’s hand would be glowing. That’s a big disappointment.
Well manicured but still not living up to the hype. 👍🏻
@Jeff Katz, there’s a reason the law protects the anonymity of whistleblowers. Big corporations like to throw their weight around and strike back.
Preach
I went thru the Temple in SLC in 1971 it has changed so much and you are not told in advance. I was inactive after age 30 for 36 years and fears returning because of the blood oaths . I still remember how horrified I was !!!
The death oaths will haunt the church forever. So unchristian and culty.
Did anyone else feel let down by their new name? Then get even more upset to find out that everyone that month of your sex got the same name?
I did. I was hoping for something kinda cool. I got Titus. Titus, seriously? A few years ago when we left, i told my wife my name and she said Tits ‘r Us? Yeah sounds about right! 😂
100% mine was Heber. My BIL who went through with me on the same session showed it to me in the scriptures in the celestial room to show off that he knew it. Totally biggest the bubbles.
You guys cracked me up, good job, comments, etc. great job all!
And God will not be mocked! 😮
God will not be mocked by the LDS Church. The LDS Church will be mocked.
I went into the temple in 1980 and I didn’t know what I was really doing. It was weird. And wearing an all in one undergarment. I was gobsmacked that things have changed in the temple.
I guess God is no longer the same yesterday, today and forever eh.
@@PriesthoodDispatches the unchanging God who just tweaks his commandments and ceremonies and doctrines every now and then… just cause 🙄 What got me out was reading McConkie through and finding contradictions and having questions and people laughing and saying ohh that’s just McConkie Doctrine … and i’m like wasn’t he a prophet? wasn’t that God’s word speaking through a prophet?
Any chance the video might be posted again somewhere, for those of us who missed it the first time?
Why do you want to watch it
Prurient interest. You don't have the capacity to grasp what is taught nor the magnitude of what these clowns did in the name of Concerns. Pathetic
At 45:00: Would you do it for 20 pieces of silver?
Good One.😂😂
Nemo is hilarious. As usual. Even Nemo is funny.
He is quite witty.
I haven't been to the temple since 1999 and resigned about 2014, yet I can still recite the veil ceremony. I'M SAVED!
Yep. I know the secret handshakes etc so I'm in right?!
@@PriesthoodDispatches And so does every Mason know the handshake, whether Christian, Jewish, or Muslim. All that is required is belief in a Supreme being. I may not understand what Ice Guy is saying, but I think he is expressing that something like a recitation of a ceremony remains in your long term memory even after resigning the church.
@@marilynbower1352 very true. How strange 😂
The creepiest thing was that hand sliding through the dingy sheet. Can't they launder the "veil?"
😂 so true.
Mirror mirror on the wall who are the most gullible humans on the planet=. Mormons are the dumbest humans alive…
Elohim is not a name for God. It is Hebrew, plural, for the powerful ones. The Vatican historians made the anouncement that Elohim is not the name for God or God the father. This is what led me down the road of historicity of the old testiment and the Truthfulness of The Church. What are the powerful ones. I see them as the Watchers from the Book of Enoch, a group that were to watch over the project Earth and fell as fallen angels, who took human wives because they found them delightful. Some see them as the Annauki, the gods of the Sumerians and later Mesoptamia and even the Cannanites. The name Elohim and Yaweh were placed over the name of the lord during the King Jesiah's rewrite of the Jewish Bible. So the change from Jesus to Elohim at the vale really disturbs me.
Vatican historians are paid pretenders. You're also lying about you and the temple. You said something that exposes you. You are also a pretender who lies and spreads lies.
@@WatchingwaitingG2D
Actually the theological knowledge was kind of spot on there
I'm glad it was important enough to them to do their absolute best work. I'm writing this under my husband's name because I'm on his phone watching, lol ( so it's a female viewpoint). I'm not a Mormon, but a lifelong Anglican until about 10 years ago. Now I'm just Christian, but where you had the endowment and handshakes, we had memorization of the Christian church split from Catholicism and Bible memorization. I studied and memorized the Bible an hour each night. We had a mandatory contest or exam of Bible knowledge. 300 questions and 2 essays. I was 10!
But i was raised to follow the scripture whatever thy hand findeth to do, do it with the might. Even if noone is watching God is. Who you are, is the way you behave when noone is looking. So i appreciate that; although anonymous, you put your best into this.
A&E, y'all are amazing! I got to share the nutty ceremony with my children as a "you're welcome for not raising you in this insanity", they were very amused. I know they never would have believed me if I just described it so THANKS!
Stranger than fiction, but is made up with makes it even stranger.
The People’s Prince! 😂 love it
It has to stick 😂👨👩👧👦🤴🏻
There is no content on their channel. But thank you. I took those horrible vows and I did not for 30 years even tho not active never spoke the vows or my name. I am so old now I do not remember my name but my ex knew mine and I resented that.
PD, you said the sign is the last position of the penalty - that is incorrect. The sign is always made first prior to the penalty. The covenant is made with the hands in position of the sign. Then at the end, the first position of the penalty is made (which is different from but related in some way to the sign), then the movement is made, then the hands are dropped to the sides. There is no part of the penalty itself left in the post-1990 version. And in fact, when the penalties were dropped, they altered the one sign that did have a closer connection to the penalty to no longer be connected.
Thank you for that. I'll have to go back and take another look with this info in mind. Every day is a school day.
This is so hard to understand, and I've been watching videos. I guess I gotta get clear on:
do you mean they do the hand signs, then hand mime slitting their throat, as the "penalty?"?
@@PrestoJacobson I cannot comment on the specifics of the penalty itself. But, they hold their hand in the position called the "sign" and while making the sign of the X token of the Y priesthood (X=first,second; Y=aaronic,melchizedek), then they repeat in their mind these words (covenant wording goes here) and when they get to the end of that it concludes with, "rather than do so I would suffer" (hands move from sign to first position of the penalty) "my life" (hands make motion of penalty) "to be taken" (hands drops to the side. My point is that the "sign" itself happens before the penalty and before the hands are even moved into penalty position. This was to correct what PD had stated, that the sign was the last ending position of the penalty, which is not at all the case.
Anyone else notice they never let Eve's shoulders show? It's fine for Adam's to show, but not Eve's.
Can't have the brethren getting too excited by those porn shoulders lol
@@PriesthoodDispatches😂
You cannot watch a live session anymore... back in my day, in Utah SLC, Manti, and St George did the live version... of members acting out the session... i am sorry you young kids missed a 'live' session.. SLC was the last one, to perform the mormon endowment 'live'.. before closing.
At 33:00: so anyone who makes any covenant to any God in any religion has an issue as to their nation if they are running for president? That's ridiculous. And you know that the Mitt Romney issue was only brought up as a mudslinging issue and not a substantive issue
Shows their caliber.
They have fallen low from the place of some knowledge and are staging a mediocre podcast instead of getting a job
I'm just really ashamed of their subterfuge and then putting the blame on temple workers for not stopping them. SMH
There are going to be plenty of people in hell.
I'll be there too if I don't forgive these guys. But they did something really dirty and I'm not quite ready yet .
Looking forward to watching this!
Hope you enjoy it.
I thought the (1960s) endowment ceremony was beautiful, in many ways.
Adam, speaking to that Protestant (or, Sectarian) minister-- while looking for "the Greater Light and Knowledge" that only God could give-- was actually HUMOROUS, to me, in his dialogue/dialog.
(And, this was mainly because of the characters who were playing the various roles, in that early film production: with Gordon Jump-- who later became a high profile Hollywood actor-- playing [Saint] Peter...
...and that 'pastor', in a black robe, played by a rancher from Spanish 'Fark' (yes, he spoke that way, just like Ezra Taft Benson always did).
AND, that Mormon rancher pretending to be a Protestant minister-- something he had absolutely no understanding of, in real life-- made me see some levity, in that extended scene.
GORDON JUMP (Peter): "What do you preach?" spoken to that minister.
(PROTESTANT) MINISTER: "We preach of a God who is so big he fills the Universe, and yet so small He can dwell in your heart."
ADAM: (paraphrase) "That's a real 'load', sir."
MINISTER (grinning broadly): "That is the Beauty of it!"
.... It's funny I remember that dialog, all these years later.
P.S: My first time through the Salt Lake Temple, though, actually predated the use of film, I think: they had only live actors.
But, Gordon Jump and that goofy rancher, etc. really made my day, that day!
I managed to see the live actors in the SLC temple once but had a heavy cold and had taken allot of medicine so I feel asleep. 😬
I wish I had been before 1990 just to see the Preacher.
My favorite endowment film was the one made in 2015. It had bald Satan and CGI graphics. It was not shown in every temple. The die-job blonde Eve was funny since she looked into Adam's eyes at one point with a Sarah Jessica Parker look on her face. It brought me back to Sarah's days on the show Sex and the City.
Let’s call it what it is. The original Endowment forced everyone into a suicide pact with God, if you ever revealed the things in the temple.
A suicide pact!
I missed that time frame by 5 years.
Love your getting all this stuff out there totally love the stuff you are adding on John dehlins show. I am a life long member. Still on the books I think. I say that because I have a brain injury from a massive stroke but I remember getting excommunication letter because I was a major player in cannabis activism lbut I may be mistaken. Lol. Just how my memory is these days. But I haven't set foot in my ward in a two years. I had left the church years ago but then came back because I felt all my issues I had with the church were the adversary possibly And they totally didn't like the questions and info I had found. Lots of the same stuff you all are bringing out. Funnyb I learned the bishop that was there when I had my stroke. Has been ex communicated. And labeled an apostate... Basically I just wanted to thank you. Nemo Lol. They are gonna find out soon I'm now becoming a Christian minister who is welcoming ex members and ex JW's.. it's all bought Jesus and love with me. Hardest thing for me has been getting the Mormon gospel and doctrines out of my head. I'll find myself quoting BOM when I'm talking bought the Bible. And my minister buddies will be like there you go again Joseph. And we all laugh but I feel like I was definitely brain washed. Or conditioned my whole life.
I laughed too loud about the septum piercing camera Nemo. Thank God loud laughter is no longer a sin.
LmFAO go pro. Holy heckin ship. I definitely woke up my neighbors with that laugh. That is definitely a sin. Thanks Nemo.
Maybe the go pro was mounted to the septum piercing?
That would be an epic sized septum ring.
Glad we good get a laugh.
@@PriesthoodDispatches it would be hysterically funny to see the camera exposed and obvious.
I can't have a recommended any more because I can't answer yes to sustaining the first presidency or paying them 10%. Also, I love coffee. I have been married twice in the temple and both times I've had a faith crisis after a few years. It's just not for me. I'm afraid my covenants will haunt me in the next life
The first presidency are as bent as a nine Bob note. You do you.
If you can find a relationship with the real Jesus of the Bible he can and will wash all that away and give you freedom and a fresh start.
I figure that if the covenants I made were based on falsehoods then my covenants meant nothing
@@lesahardman9914 me too
Nemo have you slept since the last Podcast????
He added an ugly over jacket to his cool outfit though.😊
He’s currently hibernating
Can’t get it right everyone.
He's a busy man.
OMG.. that is a good warning... Mormons are like Scientology... they will find you.. hopefully this truth protects you. Thank you for this podcast.. probably the best ever seen.... as my neighbors slam doors above me, and get angree listening to this in my apartment... lol... truth can always conquer lies. Amen, amen, amen! Thank you Adam and Eve!
Both The LDS Church and Scientology DEMAND/REQUIRE large financial contributions to participate. 10%+ of your Gross Income to get a Temple Recommend.
Me too just a big pyramid scheme.
Thanks to both of you. Very informative. My question is about 2 stage progression temples where you move from the instruction room to the “Veil/Telestial Room” before passing into the Celestial Room. At what part of the film do you move to the 2nd room before the Celestial Room?
It’s at the end of the movie as it was pre the 2023 changes. When Adam tells the audience to follow the apostles.
The workers will help you know where to go
Chipping in for a server hosting
Thank you
Is there somewhere I can watch their video? I left the church in 2017. I went through the temple and immediately left because I realised it was insanity 🤦🏻♀️
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Someday you will understand the true meaning of temple when we are dressed as brides please understand gods plan about temples. I'm sorry you left the church because of temples. 😢
@@chandelcampbell8580 You are dressed as a bride to become a polygamous wife of Nelson. 😂
the people's prince... priceless 😂
As he will forever be known.
1:05:44 I didn't know how much I needed to see two British guys give the temple video the MST3K treatment. 😂
I just looked up MST3K. Amazing!!
@@PriesthoodDispatches I'd kill for a full-length version 😆
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Thanks!
Thank you so much for your contribution. 🎉
Cardston Alberta Temple had one room per Kingdom. You had to walk through each room into the next one. Different murals on the walls depicting the kingdoms
That is similar to the SLC Temple
This is the first one I went through like that and it was amazing. I was used to sterile cream walls etc and the dark woods with the colours felt so different.
Thank you PD!
You are welcome.
The church doesn’t control me!
Thank you. Watching and Listening from Alaska.
Wow that’s a long way from here in the UK. So cool.
Thanks for this information.
Glad it was helpful!
Are there sects of the Restoration movement who wish for a return to more hard-line (older) versions of the endowment rites?
Put the video in your editor, reverse it and reexport it. The computers won't flag it.😊
Why are these ceremonies so awfully cold? Everything is pre-recorded. How bizarre.
Love you Nemo
This make me want to investigate more,in Leviticus 14:14-18 talking about temple washing and annoiting ritual,its make sense that it symbolise something,this video attract more people who love their bible to investigate LDS church more.
Great for them. They will find that it is a masonic rite and not based on the Bible at all.
After watching the video, I am not going to spend 10% of my income to watch the original in their theatre
@@charlesmendeley9823 😂 bonus
They’re deep state grifters that gang stalk people and create shooting sprees
It’s a Masonic cult
Freemasons also run the housing commission hell hole ghettos with the Masonic cops Blessings come from the meth protected housing commission gangs
I hope your secret film is saved safely and shated.
Nemo is not posh.
😂
I always thought it was God the father at the veil. Guess I either forgot or was a lax disciple 🤷♀️
I remember conversing with th we lord through the veil. I'll look into it.
Excellent podcast. Thanks for the enlightenment💜
Thank you. We really enjoyed it too.
I did my initial endowment ceremony in the 1980's. I haven't been since early 2000's. but, I seem to remember my initial ceremony mentioned Elohim at the veil.... not positive since it has been decades but that sounded familiar when I saw that slide. I remember Jesus being in the movie in the '80's as well.... Are you sure it's the 'first' time? I absolutely remember the 'slitting your throat' sign and promise.... remember thinking how disgusting a request that was. I never connected spiritually with the endowment ceremony. I got far more spiritual edification when I did baptisms for the dead as a youth.
As I remember it and it is presented in the script, Peter James and John are set down to introduce you to the lord at the veil. I'll look into it some more.
My first one for the A film, he was my favorite
The blonde Eve was my first and the one that sticks in my mind. I think Nemo said that was the D film. But A film Satan was the best.
Practice with me what you will say the second you pass from this life “oops”.
When I went in, I thought that there was acid in the water fountain.
😂 that would be amazing.
No, that was the acid you took before going 😅
My new name isn’t on your list. Did they erase me from the next life?
They have the different lists on the website. Check it here to make sure you are still on it 😂www.fullerconsideration.com/TempleNameOracle/
😂🤣🤣
Adam and Ever are behind the veil
😂 👏🏻👍🏻
What despicable people.
The people changing the way in which humans receive eternal life with God? Yes, despicable people for sure! Nothing more satanic than changing the way to eternal life with God (FAITH ALONE, not some secret handshake).
@almang1800 mm hm. Quiz: where in the Bible does it say "faith alone"? There's one place. Can you find it?
@@jonahbarnes5841 Oooo I love quizzes! Can you name where in the bible it says: 1. temple ordinances are required to differentiate the fabricated levels of heaven; 2. Coffee is bad but Pepsi products (where LDS has stock) are good; 3. It's okay to change characteristics of Jesus such as ignoring the fact He ripped the veil but then still include that in the LDS temple? Can you find those?
@@Manzanita1890 Do you actually think the points you shared are good points? First, I cannot for the life of me figure out what you mean by asking anyone to point out in the Bible where "temple ordinances are required to differentiate the fabricated levels of heaven." The statement doesn't seem to make any sense whatsoever. Are you saying members of the church believe temple ordinances have something to do with helping them figure out the difference between the different degrees of glory? Because "differentiate" means to recognize what makes things different from other things. Whatever you meant to say but failed to adequately express is in any event clearly a non sequitur. Most people who know anything about the Church (of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) are aware that members of the church do not believe in the false principle of sola scriptura. As a result, it does not make any sense to ask a member of the church to justify any particular one of their beliefs by demonstrating the belief is included in the Bible because the Bible does not alone include the basis or grounds for every belief in the restored gospel of Jesus Christ.
Your point about coffee and Pepsi is also not well made or well taken. Just because coffee and Pepsi both have caffeine in them does not mean that church members would for some reason also need to abstain from drinking Pepsi (or for the Word of Wisdom to prohibit the drinking of Pepsi) to be logically consistent if they're required by the Word of Wisdom to abstain from drinking coffee. Apples and oranges are both fruits, but they also have many differences. Dried corn is considered a grain. It can be milled into corn flour but it does not include gluten. Of course, wheat is also a grain which can be milled into wheat flour, but it contains gluten. By way of analogy, if the Word of Wisdom included a requirement to abstain from eating wheat, but not a requirement to abstain from eating corn, it would be a really weak argument to point out to a church member that their Word of Wisdom prohibits eating wheat but does not prohibit eating corn. Duh, a member would say. The two things are different in their nature even if they're both considered grains. The same thing is true when it comes to coffee and Pepsi. A can of Pepsi only has about a third of the amount of caffeine that is in a cup of coffee. There are other chemicals and substances in coffee that are not in Pepsi. The increased amount of caffeine in coffee does make it more addictive than Pepsi. Teachings of modern-day prophets regarding the Word of Wisdom inform members of the church that they should generally avoid things that are physically addictive. As a result, many church members tend to avoid regularly drinking caffeinated beverages like Pepsi.
Wait. When it comes to your point about the veil in the temple, are you saying you think Jesus personally ripped the veil in His temple immediately when he died on the cross? Because it is extremely doubtful that Jesus personally ripped it. In any event, do you know how many veils there were in the temple in Jerusalem and what each of the veils symbolized? Hint: there were two and they each respectively symbolized different things. Only one of the veils was ripped at the time of the death of Jesus on the cross. And, how many veils are symbolically represented in each modern temple of the church. Hint: one. It's a super weak and erroneous point for critics of the church to claim that "the veil" in the temple (in Jerusalem) was ripped when Jesus died but Mormons put it back in their temples. Critics who try to make this argument only demonstrate that they have very little understanding of what the veils in the temple at Jerusalem symbolized and/or what each veil represented in the modern temples of the church symbolize. Apples and oranges again, my dude. Each representative veil included in the modern-day temples of the church does not symbolize in any way what the ripped veil in the temple of Jerusalem symbolized.
Best interview EVER!!
At 35:30: You start talking about the Xerxes in the movie 300. That's funny because your voice sounds like Xerxes and Xerxes actually represents a false idol or God (e.g., Satan). Hillarious!
Didn't think Nemo was that funny, the giggles in the back ground, added more humor, slammed it, cold pale Jesus, and boil my piss, "my heavens"
Piss boiling is one of my favourites past times. 😂
Why is the Gospel covenent #3 and not the only one? Also, Baptisms were used in my family to guilt us into doing everything the church says, including getting these covenants eventually. It was used against me all the time.
Very good question on #3, surely that would cover everything. But then you would be short on handshakes.
The guilt is real and using it is a dick move.
no it wasn't
At 6:00, so they admit to copyright violations and trespassing as well? Sounds legit.
And Joseph did it first! Lol.
NEMO... okay I am watching only because you have this smart man. But I feel like you are both excellent...
Is the video available anywhere?
I was someone who thought they were misremembering things because the ceremony kept changing and saying that it hasn't changed. The gaslighting got to me really bad, because I went so rarely (never got used to the uncomfortable ritual nature of it).
Interesting that the FBI likes to recruit from BYU, candidates like to do as they are told and are often fluent in a second language. How useful is that? Very!
The FBI recruits from BYU because members of the LDS church are typically honest, intelligent, dedicated, hard working, motivated, kind, and yes, able to follow instructions and maintain confidences. Those all seem like good things to me. And it doesn't hurt that they speak a second language. There is nothing sinister about that.
I absolutely Loooooove Nemo!!!!! He tells the truth straight up, right between the eyes!
All numbsculls and idiots love Nemo.
adam sounds like john delin or the guy in the movie "Legend"
:- D
It is despicable for you to tear down and ridicule other people's sacred beliefs. That's not Christlike at all. Imagine doing this to a sacred Indian ceremony ? You would be extremely castigated. This is a case that applies to what Christ said, "cast not your pearls before swine."
Pearls???? Please. Joseph Smith lifted how much of the details and garb from Masonry? When I went through for the first time in 1984, when The Penalties were still being acted out.... Throat Slitting and Being Disemboweled... I KNEW that had nothing to do with Christianity. I did not think Secret Handshakes and Secret Passwords were part of any path to Heaven. My Faith & Testimony rationalized it ALL for me. Now, looking at it, what a joke. AND... The Church requires 10%+ of your Gross Income to be able to participate. THAT is NOT Christian.
Is the film still available somewhere to watch?
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