the big issue is that most of these tanks have never been put against the BEST of the "enemy" tanks so real-world comparing on the battlefield (WHICH IS MUCH HARSHER then numbers in a sim) is essentially impossible. there are things you can generally infer based on common sense and what has gone before (LIKE RUSSIAN tanks are especially easy to maintain and are made to be very reliable). but for the most part, we will likely never see a super upgraded M1 Abrams vs a T-14 Armata unless a massive escalation happens.
@@CheekiBreeki-mq2my Every tank from the beginning of sovjet tank design, even the TSAR tank! There is no doubt about that towarischtsch Cheeki, secrit dokumints™ prove that. (I'm very sarcastic in both my comments, sorry ^^ )
Came for April Fool's day joke, stayed for an actual video. I definitely didn't expect it, but I expected not to expect something, so it doesn't count.
Once teacher in elementary school told our class to draw what we think is beautifull. I drawn a tank and teacher didn't accept it. So i added some dead bodies.
@@sergeantmarcusstackerM1903 i dont remember, i was too excited drawing something other than landscapes and flowers like my classmates did. DeAd BoDiEs
I've skimmed a couple of his videos, but is he just trying to be contrarian with most of his videos? He seems to use shaky points to argue against commonly held opinions
I think a major contributor to a negative opinion about Abrams is the fact that while M1 isn't really used in other militaries except the US and some of its allies. Instead, most well-developed countries use Leo-2 and frugal ones - anything Russian. While there are a lot of factors why those tanks are more popular, that doesn't really make Abrams worse.
Yeah, because the other countries don't want to use the Abrams due to fuel. It's a massive fuel guzzler, but it does its job well. So does every other NATO tank, but for different needs.
@@wooflessdelta well, not only. Most well developed countries either use their own mbt (UK, France) or use leo 2, witch were easy to get after collapse of soviet union and large cut in defence spending for germany. Large amount of Leo 2 were sold at factory price, and most of the spares too. Now, it is easier to get a new fully equiped leo 2 at a cheaper price and easier to maintain ,than a barebones version of Abrams. Fuel consumption is also a big no-no for some countries. And like I said, frugal ones buy russian tanks, since they most likely can't afford even a barebones Leo 2.
Well congress STILL thinks its armour is top secret so its just too hard to export it without major downgrades. Leo2 gets exported without compromises.
Would be interested to hear what your take on the future of tank design would be. Stuff like electric motors instead of gas etc. Also hearing your take on the merkava would be interesting.
As we could understand, the tank got some deserved attributes, but some are exagerates due to his career, since it is 1 of many modern battle tank that managed to be involved in many battles, and proove hisself many times, but some fact about him could be completly exagerates by media or spreaded civilian rumors. What could be interesting in this series, is to compare all vehicles with their attributes with others vehicles in order to show which got a concept right or wrong compare to another, stilling in the tactics they were created for: Armor and Firepower Focus or Hit Probability Focus, because comparing 2 vehicles of different conception tactics could lead to an unstoppable debate, like comparing an Abrams with a Leclerc, because 1 was created to be a Wrestler and the other as a Kickboxer, 1 for heavy weight resilience and punch and the other for agile accurate hit. But I do really like to see with your apointment the characteristics of our actual tanks, since for the past 1, it would come for the same serie.
When I joined the Army as 19K one of my drill sergeants was in the First Gulf War in an Abrams. His tank took a direct hit from a sabot fired from a T-72 and it just stuck in the armor. I saw the picture and it was pretty damn cool.
Main series: Will you make a video on topic of wheeled tanks? Tank review series: Now that you've touched Abrams developement, maybe next best tanks to cover would be South Koreans K1 and K2? There is still a myth that K1 is a licensed version of Abrams, you know? Simply because people can't be bothered to make a 2 minute Google search to check the degree of XM-1 programm involvement and WHICH prototype was used as inspiration.
@@sgt.mustache6148 Put Rooikat 105 alongside Leopard 1 and repeat that again. Point is, calling such vehicle armored cars is not smarter then clinging to classification of tank as exclusively tracked vehicles.
Fun fact: K2 actually combined both Eastern (Russian) and Western ( The US) due to Soviet Unions bankruptcy in 1991. One year prior to the bankruptcy, South Korean government decided to loan 3million USD to Soviet Union. So, they can build the long lost diplomatic relationship again (cause USSR = supported North Korea and communism) After Soviet Union became Russia, which still had to pay all debts when it was Soviet Union, decided to pay the 3 million dollar loan with Russia's weapons (Russia did pay some with raw materials and USD dollars, but they were simply not enough). In South Korea, we call this incident 불곰사업 (literal translation : Red bear business/ dealing business with the red bear) During the first phase of the business(1995~1998), South Korea received FULL SPEC 33 T 80 U, 33 BMP3, 70 Metis M atgm with 1250 ammunitions, 50 Igla with 700 ammunitions. The second phase (2002 ~ 2006) included importing of: 2 T80UK (K stands for command vehicle), BMP3 with thermal upgrade, 156 Metis M atgm with 11500 ammunitions, 3 Munera hovercrafts, and some il103 and Ka32 A. The third phase deal, which is still on going and has changed its name of business to 한-러 군사기술협력 사업 ( South Korea and Russia's military technology cooperation business) and it is still on going. Hence the reason why South Korea operates an armored division solely made up with T80 U and BMP 3s'. Also the reason why the US knows Russia's technology (after South Korea received T 80U, they invited US military specialists to examine the tanks together and discovered Russian tanks had higher military tech then the US anticipated) I believe Russia's transmission technology has greatly helped in making the K2 tank, but I have to look into this with more detail which part of K2 was heavily inspired by T80 U. PS: the deals themself are still controversial among the South Korean society. Russia's technology vastly improved and even lead to invention of 신궁 (pronounced as Shin gung), a portable anti air missle like Igla, 천궁 (Cheon gung), Korea's mid range SAM. However, some say Russia overpriced their military equipment and accidents regarding Ka52 is quite frequent... and the South Korean army has difficult time in procuring the weapon parts. Additionally, think of the logistics nightmare! So technically, the US was the only winner in the business, cause they managed to examine Russia's tank technology for free! ( cause US is the and only closest South Korea's ally. So South Korea invited the US to examine the tank together by literally removing every single pieces from the T 80U)
@@ausfyausfy2455 Wouldn't be surprised if they were overpriced exactly because it was anticipated that americans would show up and start touching everything. Problem is you had to give it all up for free. If you have no use for them, send them to Taiwan... and blame russians for importing it when chinese will have a fit about that. Poor guys can't buy anything because everyone is too afraid of China and unlike you and Israel, they apparently can't start their own tank industry.
People tend to forget that whatever super tank Germany or russia come out with, we have 10k abrams. Sofar there is no advantage that I know of to make those useless to the point of being obsolete
Having so many probably has a lot to do with why we're still using it and even after we replace its MBT role eventually I'm sure it will stick around for a while longer
I'm glad you pointed out the acoustic advantage of the AGT-1500 over a diesel. Some people seem to get confused as to why it has the nickname "Whispering Death" when they stand next to it and hear it roaring but don't realize that at a distance you're going to hear a traditional diesel engine long before a turbine.
tank isnt tall enough, to many rounded edges, wheres the mech arms and legs? why only 1 gun? The high point on the treads should have obviously been put at the back, too small to fit the crew sleeping compartments and library section to record the tanks feats, not enough exposed ammo magazines, why does the crew actually fit their assigned compartments? where is all the religious iconography? where are the heads on spikes meant to be mounted? all in all, a horribly designed tank.
You fool, you forgot the oversized nuclear reactor, what about feeding the men radiation? I thought you wrte genuinely intelligent about this topic, you should be ASHAMED of yourself!
You know someone did the conversition for the material on the fucking Leman Russ? It only equates to like, 400mm of composite steel. An M1 Abrams can pen up to 600. Warhammer fags can BTFO out
Personally, I think the M1 Abram is one of the tanks near the top of the list. Though, I believe it does fall short due to it being quite old. It has been in service for a VERY long time now. Certainly many moons ago, especially after being fitted with the 120mm: I would have said its the best tank out there. It featured lots of forward thinking design, it was implemented well, and it preformed wonderfully when given the trial by fire. I think a testament to how good the tank is would be how hard it is for it to be replaced. Its still plenty capable of filling its needed roles and looks pretty while doing it. Something not too many tanks have had the luxury of doing considering that we've seen some designs become outdated in 2 years, or in some cases: Before the first units roll off the production line. The Abrams has stood the test of time, she's earned her marks. I believe it deserves to be called one of the best MBT's out there. Though I believe that we're starting to reach a point where we should start to look into creating an "M2" variant that takes the design that worked, improve on it, and upgrade as needed. Though, we all know what happens with military budgets these days.... it will be inevitably fucked up (I'm looking at you Zumwalt).
I'm designing a hover tank I think you'll like. While the general issue with hover tanks is that they require tons of power, my design uses hovering as a way to bleed off excess energy from an engine that's basically a mini blackhole. As for armor: it doesn't have any and instead relies upon a shield projected by the same technology used for the hover. The cannon is supposed to be a sort of auto cannon railgun thing that minimizes recoil with yet another piece of hover tech. Two things that I thought would make sense for it's design: 1. when the capacitors for the gun are fully charged, your acceleration is increased as more power is being bleed off by the hover engines 2. The hover field and shields that would just be invisible gravity fields are visible because of light being refracted by the gravity, in the same way that light bends around a blackhole, anything shot at the gravity fields (including laser weapons) would be either bent away or just pushed away like a magnet Also: because the craft requires almost no armor, there's no need for fancy cameras to look outside the vehicle. It could have a windshield and car doors but still be more resistant than the Doomslayer I'm thinking the crew would be 1 commander 1 driver 1 main gunner 1-2 anti-infantry gunners 1 engineer to keep checks on all the tech And maybe a radio specialist. I'm thinking that with a max crew of 7-8 it would have to be big but with no need for armor or giant tracks, along with its ammo just being metal rods, it would be smaller than most main battle tanks
I like this concept mate, that is very creative and cool! I am curious about the massive crew? Why does it need so many crew members? Does it not have large amounts of automation and robotics? Could the anti-infantry weapons be controlled by a computer or artificial intelligence? The job of the Radio Specialist should probably just go to the Tank Commander! I can understand the idea of placing the Engineer into the tank or at least I think I got a rough idea as to why he is there. Although, he probably should be left behind at base and away from the combat. Unless the tank is experimental or is utilizing less reliable components that necessitate the field engineer? Otherwise, this is a very cool idea! Keep up the creative and cool concepts mate!
@@raidertheknight4851 I was thinking it would have a larger crew because of greater availability of space,the larger your tank crew, the better you can recover. I guess the radio specialist isn't necessary, but I wanted to include the engineer to ensure the shields and hovers stay balanced It has 3 gunners because I was imagining this thing being an invincible beacon on the battlefield, waltzing through scores of men.
That all makes reasonable sense. The additional gunners and the Engineer make perfect sense for that take from the explantation you have provided. I like it mate! Keep up the good work!
Those Abrams in the intro clips are from my battalion in the 2018 Strong Europe Challenge. Didn't win overall, but we won the gunnery part, which IMO is the most important and pertinent anyway.
In my opinion Abrams have the best interior design which will age well. Material, engines, electronics, and armaments will change but overall concept is solid. I wonder why they don't export a discounted version of this Abrams though? Just use less expensive stuff on it and sell it. Glad they fix the fuel issue. 😊
They do. We sold it to Iraq, and other countries in the coalition, unfortunately, lot's of them ended up in the hands of ISIS, but luckily they don't have the Invinci-armor mix on them.
@@gungde9419 yes, unfortunately. The corps have recently decided to disband their abrams squadrons. They thinkbits better to give the marines ifvs and lightly armored carriers. This is going to backfire them if god forbid Marines are in a situation where they need tanks and the enemy is pushing.
@@erzhaider i assume by IFVs its gonna consist of a shitload of bradleys and strikers, probably mostly strikers. But given how weapon platforms are shifting and greater importance is likely going to be put more on drones, why waste money with a fleet of decent tanks when you can spend that same money on several fleets of predator drones with AT missiles.
@@knightofficer uavs arent able to replace tanks, I hope you realise that. Planes are much slower to react to an attack than tanks if the units on the ground have them and if the enemy has aerial superiority or even if the air is just contested planes are not a reliable alternative. Also, a UAV cant protect soldiers on the ground from incoming fire while a tank can. And tanks are much more reliable, they can fulfill anti-tank and anti-infantry roles for a sustained period of time while planes, while able to pack a punch, have to turn back after releasing their payload. I'm sure there are other reasons but I wouldn't call myself an expert on this topic and it's 5 AM at time of writing, so I'm neither the best informed or in a good mental shape to give you a full answer at the moment.
To be fair the abrams will soon be obsolete, to my eye (wich is from the pov of a civilian ) because of the turrets lack roomes from upgrating is gun, however currently it s still a very capable machine but that will need a lot of work in order to compete with mbts such as the armata or the futur eu mbt (or whatever the acronyme is)
@@gasupplisson the only real gun upgrade that exists out there is a longer version of the gun currently in service. All realcupgrades being deployed by every army are things that can be added to existing designs (missile kill systems, improved optics and targeting computers, etc.), because no one really has the need or funds to design and build a true next generation main battle tank. The T-14 Armata is an exception, depending on who you talk to and believe. As it stands it's completely classified and has never seen conflict. Anything the Russians say is suspect.
@@jacobscott1433 the european country has already (for giat) a 140 mm wich is said to make the french version of the dm 53 had a penetration boost up to 40% and a 130 mm made by the german from wich i don t remeber the performances. The giat 140 was put on display on the Leclerc terminateur if you want to see some fotage of it
It hurts my heart to know the Corps is getting rid of our A1s. Four years with Second Tank Battalion. She's a good machine, took care of us in Afghanistan.
Umesh 01patel Marines basically implied they don’t want to be a second Army and wanted a more litoral, amphibious role and the face that the Marines get all the cheap scraps from the navy
I agree that the Abrams tank is one of the best tanks in the modern world and it's powerplant can accept many types of fuel leaving it very open to almost any type of fuel.
1:39 I know this is kinda off-topic, but can we just take a lookat these numbers are realise the amount of Inflation that we've had since then? To be honest, it kinda scares me.
Honestly, don't. If you really want to make a career out if the military, go to officer school. Enlisting isn't what it's made out to be. I served 5 years in the Russian Naval Infantry and several friends of mine from the States have served in the US military, a few have physical health problems because of their time during service
The first PC game I really got into as a kid was Command and Conquer which basically cemented in my mind that the Abrams is THE tank of the modern era. Not the best at every scenario, but certainly not the worst which is why GDI uses them in the first game. They didn't just set the bar, they are the bar of comparison by which all tanks are judged.
As an aside, I watched a video the other day and it showed the commander inside the abrams looking at his MPD and targeting with a JOYSTICK! I about fell out of my chair because I've played warthunder for 4 years and I think me and my dad are the only two dudes who setup to play with a HOTAS system (thrustmaster t1600) instead of mouse and keyboard tank movement back and forth is on my throttle axis, left and right steering are on the rocker paddle on the throttle. and I have full brakes on a button right between the rocker paddle mentioned for steering. Left and right brakes are the toe brakes on my rudder pedals (could have put the steering on the rudder axis, but you end up getting a workout.) Turret control and views are all on the joystick. It's all very customizable and im not sure why more people dont play this way. For me, I dont type well and have to look at the keyboard... so keybindings for tank movement are a nightmare. I also have PTSD and fine control of a mouse is very difficult in stressful fire fights. I find the joystick mutes almost all of my herky jerky motions out into a smooth and aimable interface.
My neighbor had to inspect a few Abrams that got knocked out in Iraq and his comments on them were "Even though they're burned they still look operational"
Noiceeee... Can't wait for all the other modern MBTs analysis from you! Leopard 2, T-90s, T-14 Armata, Challenger 2, Merkava, Type 99, K2 Black Panther, LeClerc, Ariete, and many more!
The city I grew up in used to do this annual parade and one year, I don't know how, but they got an Abrams to show up just to let people look at it and kids climb all over it. I think I was 12 at the time? It was fucking awesome. They even did a little drive in an intersection. I remember how piercing the turbine was, so cool.
I think the Abrams is a solid tank despite its age, however its age and load limit are becoming an issue as mentioned. Of course, we don't really know how the Abrams will fare against another modern MBT (and hopefully we never find ourselves in a situation where we have to find out), but there comes a point where a machine has to be replaced despite how effective it is because it's too far behind the times.
Good overall video. Happy you went into actual history of the Abrams and how complicated the development process can be. The polar opinions on the Abrams in my opinion come from 19 series with such differing experiences with the platform. Some units have users that don't know how to run a BIT test or putting in hydraulic fluid. Other units *cough* National Guard *cough* have crews that have been training for literal decades together and probably have more troubleshooting knowledge than even MGs. Hence such polarizing opinions.
Amazing video! I love the new series already! I've left suggestions on your videos before one of which was to try and be more conversational sometimes, allow the audience to feel like your talking with us not lecturing to us and this is just that, and the personal opinions and less monotone presentation made it very enjoyable. Keep at it spook ur awesome!
(I know I know, I'm late) I never knew that there was so much speculation about the M1's engine. Nor that it preceded the MBT-70. Very informative, definitely watching future episodes.
You should do a series on the more overlooked technologies and facets in tank design and life: e.g. optics, armor styles (explosive reactive, composite, etc.), projectile types, engines, crew space, how they live in the field when not driving, how field repairs are done. that type of stuff.
Great video. Being very familiar with turbines I don’t know why you would really want anything else. This really is a constant power application. More like a boat than a car. Turbines work by being at speed and you basically just extract torque. Very efficient from a power management perspective.
In a documentation I heard the front of the hull has an armament, equivalent to 610 mm rolled steel. And the material seems to be mostly ceramics, made of depleted Uranium.
A clarification about the auxilary power generator. This was present on the A1 but removed on the A2. The A2SEPv3 has it planned to bring it back to the tank but this version has not been fielded.
The Abrams is definitely a good vehicle, among the best in the world. Also its almost impossible to determine the "best tank" in the world. Like there is no such thing. Every tank designed for the same purpose, but with different priorities in mind, to meet the needs of the country designing it.
Decent video and nice short and to the point. Somethings I'd like to point out though -the tanks we are receiving to replace the sepv2s aren't labeled as M1A2C anymore, simply M1A2 SEPv3. -you're more or less on the nose about the mobility aspect, but in my experience it *can* be sluggish sometimes in muddy terrain. Yet again, my tank I was driving was having constant DECU and engine issues so it wouldn't accelerate quickly or reach top speed or go above 1000 RPM bevause it was stuck in a "protective mode" so it wouldn't further damage the engine. Every tank is different and they all drive a little different and have their own quirks.
With each successive video you put out I can see that the average number of views you're getting per video seems to be increasing. Steady growth. I like it.
As a tank crewman from 1968-71, my experience is on the M48 in Vietnam and the M60 in West Germany. Crew training sucked. Even in the line units, no one set a standard and trained people to meet it. In Vietnam, we used mostly canister so precise aiming wasn’t important. In Europe the threat is an enemy tank so you better have your gun sighted to shoot at point of aim. I don’t remember any training to bore sight the gun or to see if it was on target at the range. If you missed, it was your fault.
I read a book called Tank Sergeant, written by a Ralph Zumbro ("Zippo"), who was supposedly with (IIRC) 1/69th in the central highlands in 1967-68. His descriptions included about a 50/50 mix of HE and canister, although I'm having trouble confirming anything to decide if it was a questionable memoir, bullcrap fiction disguised as a memoir, or pretty solid.
As far as the engine goes, one really has to ask himself, if the higher consumption of fuel is offset by a less noisy engine. After all it means, you need to move more fuel supplies around, to keep things running. The upper armor plate of Abrams is not composite, so newer rounds might have an easier time penetrating it due to improved penetration angles. Other than that it had some problems, that are fixed by now, like inadequate air filtering for the engine, lack of independent comander sight, lack of thermal sight for the comander. So it's hard to predict, how the tank will develop from this point on.
Just a heads up, I made a mistake in saying the MBT-70 had blowout panels. I thought I read it in one of my sources, but I was mistaken.
They are maintenance access ports for the ammo rack amd auto loader.
Please review the Imperator Titan from Warhammer 40k.
@@supersaiyandiclonius3056 dude gonna roast it to molten slag like it got focused by a ton of volcano cannons
Void shield active protection though.
You a furry? Your pfp suggests this
the big issue is that most of these tanks have never been put against the BEST of the "enemy" tanks so real-world comparing on the battlefield (WHICH IS MUCH HARSHER then numbers in a sim) is essentially impossible. there are things you can generally infer based on common sense and what has gone before (LIKE RUSSIAN tanks are especially easy to maintain and are made to be very reliable). but for the most part, we will likely never see a super upgraded M1 Abrams vs a T-14 Armata unless a massive escalation happens.
Tanks : *has armor walls to keep the crew from fires in the fuel tanks*
Gaijin : "we don't do that here"
Only USSR tanks do that because the USSR was known for careing for their troops - historical accuracy™ Team of Gaijin
@@TotallyNotAFox which ussr tank has armor walls against fire?
@@CheekiBreeki-mq2my Every tank from the beginning of sovjet tank design, even the TSAR tank! There is no doubt about that towarischtsch Cheeki, secrit dokumints™ prove that.
(I'm very sarcastic in both my comments, sorry ^^ )
@@TotallyNotAFox in war thunder not irl
@@CheekiBreeki-mq2my That' the joke - the russian vehicles rarely catch fire ingame compared to other nations
Came for April Fool's day joke, stayed for an actual video.
I definitely didn't expect it, but I expected not to expect something, so it doesn't count.
Same I was also expecting a joke.
that is the 4d chess joke, you were pranked thinking it wouldn't be serious
Hey anyone heard of 4d chess with multiverse time travel?
So if I'm born in April...
Wait am I a fucking joke?
Finally, a tank review that isn’t a Text to speach device...
Check out RedEffect if you want a different non-Text2Speech channel with tank reviews.
RedEffect.
RUclips channel with great reviews.
And, he knows his stuff.
@@doomslayer7719 Unfortunately some indian guy can´t understand this XD
@@Tankliker *in thick indian accent*
The arjun has a great turret protection, even greater than some western tanks.
*shows Leopard 2a5*
Man that smooth jazz at the end always gets me
Once teacher in elementary school told our class to draw what we think is beautifull.
I drawn a tank and teacher didn't accept it.
So i added some dead bodies.
Fetanizm Czołrabin elaborate
What he said
@@sergeantmarcusstackerM1903 i dont remember, i was too excited drawing something other than landscapes and flowers like my classmates did.
DeAd BoDiEs
@@fetanizmczorabin8543 what did he say when he saw dem bOdIeS
@@BGtubecom it was after that has been checked, maybe better for me he didnt see that.
Spookston: "turbine engine was a good idea"
RedEffect: *Angry Serbian noises*
I've skimmed a couple of his videos, but is he just trying to be contrarian with most of his videos? He seems to use shaky points to argue against commonly held opinions
i was gonna say the same shit you piece of crimson shit
@@Thatssoscketchy but he still knows what he is talking about
@@Thatssoscketchy name one "shaky point"
Lol i see both of them
I think a major contributor to a negative opinion about Abrams is the fact that while M1 isn't really used in other militaries except the US and some of its allies. Instead, most well-developed countries use Leo-2 and frugal ones - anything Russian. While there are a lot of factors why those tanks are more popular, that doesn't really make Abrams worse.
Yeah, because the other countries don't want to use the Abrams due to fuel. It's a massive fuel guzzler, but it does its job well. So does every other NATO tank, but for different needs.
@@wooflessdelta well, not only. Most well developed countries either use their own mbt (UK, France) or use leo 2, witch were easy to get after collapse of soviet union and large cut in defence spending for germany. Large amount of Leo 2 were sold at factory price, and most of the spares too. Now, it is easier to get a new fully equiped leo 2 at a cheaper price and easier to maintain ,than a barebones version of Abrams. Fuel consumption is also a big no-no for some countries. And like I said, frugal ones buy russian tanks, since they most likely can't afford even a barebones Leo 2.
Well congress STILL thinks its armour is top secret so its just too hard to export it without major downgrades. Leo2 gets exported without compromises.
Would be interested to hear what your take on the future of tank design would be. Stuff like electric motors instead of gas etc. Also hearing your take on the merkava would be interesting.
Instead of electric the gas turbine becomes a regular turbine.
NUCLEAR POWERED TANKS!
Mechanicus ost fits this video format really well.
Praise the Omnissiah.
As we could understand, the tank got some deserved attributes, but some are exagerates due to his career, since it is 1 of many modern battle tank that managed to be involved in many battles, and proove hisself many times, but some fact about him could be completly exagerates by media or spreaded civilian rumors. What could be interesting in this series, is to compare all vehicles with their attributes with others vehicles in order to show which got a concept right or wrong compare to another, stilling in the tactics they were created for: Armor and Firepower Focus or Hit Probability Focus, because comparing 2 vehicles of different conception tactics could lead to an unstoppable debate, like comparing an Abrams with a Leclerc, because 1 was created to be a Wrestler and the other as a Kickboxer, 1 for heavy weight resilience and punch and the other for agile accurate hit. But I do really like to see with your apointment the characteristics of our actual tanks, since for the past 1, it would come for the same serie.
Rafe_McCawley armor and shell are classified, if im not wrong
Oh
I thought this would’ve been a Accurate Japanese tank video
We exist
Do you though?
Are you sure?
no you dont
Derptank ww2 Japanese tanks were all destroyed, you don’t exist. You’re not even a thought
Tiger King
Nein
There’s still a decent amount
But in museums foreign to the US
When I joined the Army as 19K one of my drill sergeants was in the First Gulf War in an Abrams. His tank took a direct hit from a sabot fired from a T-72 and it just stuck in the armor. I saw the picture and it was pretty damn cool.
Main series: Will you make a video on topic of wheeled tanks?
Tank review series: Now that you've touched Abrams developement, maybe next best tanks to cover would be South Koreans K1 and K2? There is still a myth that K1 is a licensed version of Abrams, you know? Simply because people can't be bothered to make a 2 minute Google search to check the degree of XM-1 programm involvement and WHICH prototype was used as inspiration.
If it has wheels, it’s technically not a tank, but we all know what you mean
@@sgt.mustache6148 Put Rooikat 105 alongside Leopard 1 and repeat that again. Point is, calling such vehicle armored cars is not smarter then clinging to classification of tank as exclusively tracked vehicles.
TheArklyte ah, yes the Rooikat, forgot about that one. I stand corrected. Thank you good sir
Fun fact: K2 actually combined both Eastern (Russian) and Western ( The US) due to Soviet Unions bankruptcy in 1991. One year prior to the bankruptcy, South Korean government decided to loan 3million USD to Soviet Union. So, they can build the long lost diplomatic relationship again (cause USSR = supported North Korea and communism)
After Soviet Union became Russia, which still had to pay all debts when it was Soviet Union, decided to pay the 3 million dollar loan with Russia's weapons (Russia did pay some with raw materials and USD dollars, but they were simply not enough). In South Korea, we call this incident 불곰사업 (literal translation : Red bear business/ dealing business with the red bear)
During the first phase of the business(1995~1998), South Korea received FULL SPEC 33 T 80 U, 33 BMP3, 70 Metis M atgm with 1250 ammunitions, 50 Igla with 700 ammunitions.
The second phase (2002 ~ 2006) included importing of: 2 T80UK (K stands for command vehicle), BMP3 with thermal upgrade, 156 Metis M atgm with 11500 ammunitions, 3 Munera hovercrafts, and some il103 and Ka32 A.
The third phase deal, which is still on going and has changed its name of business to 한-러 군사기술협력 사업 ( South Korea and Russia's military technology cooperation business) and it is still on going.
Hence the reason why South Korea operates an armored division solely made up with T80 U and BMP 3s'. Also the reason why the US knows Russia's technology (after South Korea received T 80U, they invited US military specialists to examine the tanks together and discovered Russian tanks had higher military tech then the US anticipated)
I believe Russia's transmission technology has greatly helped in making the K2 tank, but I have to look into this with more detail which part of K2 was heavily inspired by T80 U.
PS: the deals themself are still controversial among the South Korean society. Russia's technology vastly improved and even lead to invention of 신궁 (pronounced as Shin gung), a portable anti air missle like Igla, 천궁 (Cheon gung), Korea's mid range SAM.
However, some say Russia overpriced their military equipment and accidents regarding Ka52 is quite frequent... and the South Korean army has difficult time in procuring the weapon parts. Additionally, think of the logistics nightmare!
So technically, the US was the only winner in the business, cause they managed to examine Russia's tank technology for free! ( cause US is the and only closest South Korea's ally. So South Korea invited the US to examine the tank together by literally removing every single pieces from the T 80U)
@@ausfyausfy2455 Wouldn't be surprised if they were overpriced exactly because it was anticipated that americans would show up and start touching everything. Problem is you had to give it all up for free. If you have no use for them, send them to Taiwan... and blame russians for importing it when chinese will have a fit about that. Poor guys can't buy anything because everyone is too afraid of China and unlike you and Israel, they apparently can't start their own tank industry.
People tend to forget that whatever super tank Germany or russia come out with, we have 10k abrams. Sofar there is no advantage that I know of to make those useless to the point of being obsolete
pcz1642raz I forget we have that amount of tanks
Murica!
Having so many probably has a lot to do with why we're still using it and even after we replace its MBT role eventually I'm sure it will stick around for a while longer
How many of those are older models or are in storage or being sold onto other states like Saudi Arabia?
And without these developments we would have never gotten the Abrams
Sees video
Me: April fools joke
watches and its not
me: Thank you!!
the abrams itself is a joke its trash. Leo 2 will destroy it from anywhere
@@eifelerplanespotter653 Very Well... How? Support Your Argument. Why is it the Abrams is Terrible?
I'm glad you pointed out the acoustic advantage of the AGT-1500 over a diesel. Some people seem to get confused as to why it has the nickname "Whispering Death" when they stand next to it and hear it roaring but don't realize that at a distance you're going to hear a traditional diesel engine long before a turbine.
Huh, I didn't know the Abrams was quieter tank. Awesome ^^
Its one of my favorite present-day tanks.
It’s turbine generates a higher pitch sound than piston engines so the sound it does generate dies down pretty quickly.
I can see this being a great series for your channel.
Can't wait to see more in the future.
tank isnt tall enough, to many rounded edges, wheres the mech arms and legs? why only 1 gun? The high point on the treads should have obviously been put at the back, too small to fit the crew sleeping compartments and library section to record the tanks feats, not enough exposed ammo magazines, why does the crew actually fit their assigned compartments? where is all the religious iconography? where are the heads on spikes meant to be mounted?
all in all, a horribly designed tank.
Baneblade is best tank
@@attiladahunk8211 it is the BAAAAAAAAANE BLAAAAAAADE
🔥🔥🔥 HERETIC🔥🔥🔥
You fool, you forgot the oversized nuclear reactor, what about feeding the men radiation? I thought you wrte genuinely intelligent about this topic, you should be ASHAMED of yourself!
You know someone did the conversition for the material on the fucking Leman Russ? It only equates to like, 400mm of composite steel. An M1 Abrams can pen up to 600. Warhammer fags can BTFO out
Just found your channel. I've been playing WT for about 3 years now. And I've been an Abrams Crew member for since 2008. You got my sub
I've heard that Bob semple was once driven by god emperor of mankind himself.
Correction: the bob semple is the god emperor of mankind
Personally, I think the M1 Abram is one of the tanks near the top of the list. Though, I believe it does fall short due to it being quite old. It has been in service for a VERY long time now. Certainly many moons ago, especially after being fitted with the 120mm: I would have said its the best tank out there. It featured lots of forward thinking design, it was implemented well, and it preformed wonderfully when given the trial by fire.
I think a testament to how good the tank is would be how hard it is for it to be replaced. Its still plenty capable of filling its needed roles and looks pretty while doing it. Something not too many tanks have had the luxury of doing considering that we've seen some designs become outdated in 2 years, or in some cases: Before the first units roll off the production line.
The Abrams has stood the test of time, she's earned her marks. I believe it deserves to be called one of the best MBT's out there. Though I believe that we're starting to reach a point where we should start to look into creating an "M2" variant that takes the design that worked, improve on it, and upgrade as needed. Though, we all know what happens with military budgets these days.... it will be inevitably fucked up (I'm looking at you Zumwalt).
The Abrams is like 5.56, everyone loves to hate on it but everything else fails to replace it.
@@bobbygetsbanned6049 this didn't age well
@@bonk3 lol 6.8 has been scaled back in proposed use dude to no "peer" having quality plates
I'd take a tank that's more focused on crew safety over a tank that's more firepower-focused.
Yep. Doesn't matter how good the guns are if the people inside aren't alive
This news series is an amazing, I love learning the history of the tanks as well as the performance. Excited to see the next on the series!
I’m happy I found your content it’s really enjoyable
I'm designing a hover tank I think you'll like.
While the general issue with hover tanks is that they require tons of power, my design uses hovering as a way to bleed off excess energy from an engine that's basically a mini blackhole.
As for armor: it doesn't have any and instead relies upon a shield projected by the same technology used for the hover.
The cannon is supposed to be a sort of auto cannon railgun thing that minimizes recoil with yet another piece of hover tech.
Two things that I thought would make sense for it's design:
1. when the capacitors for the gun are fully charged, your acceleration is increased as more power is being bleed off by the hover engines
2. The hover field and shields that would just be invisible gravity fields are visible because of light being refracted by the gravity, in the same way that light bends around a blackhole, anything shot at the gravity fields (including laser weapons) would be either bent away or just pushed away like a magnet
Also: because the craft requires almost no armor, there's no need for fancy cameras to look outside the vehicle. It could have a windshield and car doors but still be more resistant than the Doomslayer
I'm thinking the crew would be
1 commander
1 driver
1 main gunner
1-2 anti-infantry gunners
1 engineer to keep checks on all the tech
And maybe a radio specialist.
I'm thinking that with a max crew of 7-8 it would have to be big but with no need for armor or giant tracks, along with its ammo just being metal rods, it would be smaller than most main battle tanks
I like this concept mate, that is very creative and cool!
I am curious about the massive crew? Why does it need so many crew members? Does it not have large amounts of automation and robotics? Could the anti-infantry weapons be controlled by a computer or artificial intelligence? The job of the Radio Specialist should probably just go to the Tank Commander! I can understand the idea of placing the Engineer into the tank or at least I think I got a rough idea as to why he is there. Although, he probably should be left behind at base and away from the combat. Unless the tank is experimental or is utilizing less reliable components that necessitate the field engineer?
Otherwise, this is a very cool idea! Keep up the creative and cool concepts mate!
@@raidertheknight4851 I was thinking it would have a larger crew because of greater availability of space,the larger your tank crew, the better you can recover.
I guess the radio specialist isn't necessary, but I wanted to include the engineer to ensure the shields and hovers stay balanced
It has 3 gunners because I was imagining this thing being an invincible beacon on the battlefield, waltzing through scores of men.
That all makes reasonable sense.
The additional gunners and the Engineer make perfect sense for that take from the explantation you have provided.
I like it mate! Keep up the good work!
That fluffy animal in your profile pic has the same smile I have when I see you've put put a new video :)
Those Abrams in the intro clips are from my battalion in the 2018 Strong Europe Challenge. Didn't win overall, but we won the gunnery part, which IMO is the most important and pertinent anyway.
In my opinion Abrams have the best interior design which will age well. Material, engines, electronics, and armaments will change but overall concept is solid. I wonder why they don't export a discounted version of this Abrams though? Just use less expensive stuff on it and sell it.
Glad they fix the fuel issue. 😊
They do. We sold it to Iraq, and other countries in the coalition, unfortunately, lot's of them ended up in the hands of ISIS, but luckily they don't have the Invinci-armor mix on them.
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... but can u tweet from that abrams ? i guess not
sad to see the marines getting rid of there abrams tho
Wait...what?
@@gungde9419 yes, unfortunately. The corps have recently decided to disband their abrams squadrons. They thinkbits better to give the marines ifvs and lightly armored carriers. This is going to backfire them if god forbid Marines are in a situation where they need tanks and the enemy is pushing.
@@umesh01patel53 I dont know anything about the american military situation but how many did they have? And which vehicles will they be using now?
@@erzhaider i assume by IFVs its gonna consist of a shitload of bradleys and strikers, probably mostly strikers. But given how weapon platforms are shifting and greater importance is likely going to be put more on drones, why waste money with a fleet of decent tanks when you can spend that same money on several fleets of predator drones with AT missiles.
@@knightofficer uavs arent able to replace tanks, I hope you realise that. Planes are much slower to react to an attack than tanks if the units on the ground have them and if the enemy has aerial superiority or even if the air is just contested planes are not a reliable alternative. Also, a UAV cant protect soldiers on the ground from incoming fire while a tank can. And tanks are much more reliable, they can fulfill anti-tank and anti-infantry roles for a sustained period of time while planes, while able to pack a punch, have to turn back after releasing their payload. I'm sure there are other reasons but I wouldn't call myself an expert on this topic and it's 5 AM at time of writing, so I'm neither the best informed or in a good mental shape to give you a full answer at the moment.
A friend of mine who served in the army was present at the unveiling of the M1A1 Abrams.
Ah, yes. Finally. A mostly unbiased review of an honest to goodness tank with an impressive service record.
The m1 Abrams is one of the greats it will never be forgotten
Boys lets get this furry to 100k subs
I totally agree with that guy
@Nate Zou Zhao you buy that though? No hate though and anything is possible
furfag*
there, fixed your error
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Super cool!
I like where this new series is going ☺️👍👍
Britian: Spends ages trying to create a multifuel diesel engine that didn't work.
America: DUDE TURBINES!
The thumper looks so badass
Finally an unbiased Abrams Tank review that doesn't paint it as useless or outdated.
To be fair the abrams will soon be obsolete, to my eye (wich is from the pov of a civilian ) because of the turrets lack roomes from upgrating is gun, however currently it s still a very capable machine but that will need a lot of work in order to compete with mbts such as the armata or the futur eu mbt (or whatever the acronyme is)
@@gasupplisson the only real gun upgrade that exists out there is a longer version of the gun currently in service. All realcupgrades being deployed by every army are things that can be added to existing designs (missile kill systems, improved optics and targeting computers, etc.), because no one really has the need or funds to design and build a true next generation main battle tank. The T-14 Armata is an exception, depending on who you talk to and believe. As it stands it's completely classified and has never seen conflict. Anything the Russians say is suspect.
@@jacobscott1433 the european country has already (for giat) a 140 mm wich is said to make the french version of the dm 53 had a penetration boost up to 40% and a 130 mm made by the german from wich i don t remeber the performances.
The giat 140 was put on display on the Leclerc terminateur if you want to see some fotage of it
3:46 Ah yes worlds best MBT the Sherman
You should do a series on _all military equipment_ that has the designation *M1.*
And a second series on everything called *Bushmaster.*
M1? No no. M3 is all you need.
@@Guy_GuyGuy M4 sherman cries in corner.
Great stuff. Im excited for more
It hurts my heart to know the Corps is getting rid of our A1s.
Four years with Second Tank Battalion. She's a good machine, took care of us in Afghanistan.
Getting rid of abrams is pretty bad for the marines if u think about it
Umesh 01patel Marines basically implied they don’t want to be a second Army and wanted a more litoral, amphibious role and the face that the Marines get all the cheap scraps from the navy
I agree that the Abrams tank is one of the best tanks in the modern world and it's powerplant can accept many types of fuel leaving it very open to almost any type of fuel.
1:39
I know this is kinda off-topic, but can we just take a lookat these numbers are realise the amount of Inflation that we've had since then? To be honest, it kinda scares me.
Is ONI descended from the federal reserve? That would fit too well imo
Good choice of background soundtrack, and a very informative video indeed
Now this is the real April's Fool
Expecting a joke video only to get an actual Abrams Review 👏
I love your channel solely because I can say to my friends "Today I watched a tank review."
I've been listening to mechanicus soundtrack for days, was extremely disorienting to hear it in the video.
Good taste!
That you for your review! This video finally convinced me to buy one
I plan on getting into tanks when I graduate high school hopefully I can get into the American 3rd armored division
Don’t go into marines
Go army
Good luck!
@@snowylynx36 thanks, unfortunately that's a long time away tho I'm still pretty young
It's a meh job. Alot of maintenance, rarely go into the field, always at the motorpool, etc. 6/10 shooting is pretty fun though
Honestly, don't. If you really want to make a career out if the military, go to officer school. Enlisting isn't what it's made out to be. I served 5 years in the Russian Naval Infantry and several friends of mine from the States have served in the US military, a few have physical health problems because of their time during service
Alright, you did the M1 Abrams. Now your next video by association must be about either the T-72/80 or the Leopard 2. Great stuff
The Merkava would also be interesting
Wrong title.
"Review of the chieftains waifu" would be the right one.
Wouldn't the Chieftains waifu be, ya know, a chieftain?
@@jacobscott1433 no he was an abrams commander i believe
@@banegas0411 he was, but his favorite tank, has he's said, is a chieftain, so it'd be his waifu.
@@jacobscott1433 ewwwww chieftan tank EEWWW ugly
The first PC game I really got into as a kid was Command and Conquer which basically cemented in my mind that the Abrams is THE tank of the modern era. Not the best at every scenario, but certainly not the worst which is why GDI uses them in the first game. They didn't just set the bar, they are the bar of comparison by which all tanks are judged.
It may be the bar for you, but not for me.
It doesent make a loud HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUWUUUUUU sound war thuunder.
For real, you can hear the tracks before you can hear the engine lol
But the engine make a SPECIAL very noticable noise, so if it sitting near you u will know what tank it is.
*Notices the UWU*
@@warcats7207 Yep that distinct turbine noise sound. Sounds like a jet.
UwU
Definitely one of my favorite tanks, great video!
As an aside, I watched a video the other day and it showed the commander inside the abrams looking at his MPD and targeting with a JOYSTICK!
I about fell out of my chair because I've played warthunder for 4 years and I think me and my dad are the only two dudes who setup to play with a HOTAS system (thrustmaster t1600) instead of mouse and keyboard
tank movement back and forth is on my throttle axis, left and right steering are on the rocker paddle on the throttle. and I have full brakes on a button right between the rocker paddle mentioned for steering. Left and right brakes are the toe brakes on my rudder pedals (could have put the steering on the rudder axis, but you end up getting a workout.)
Turret control and views are all on the joystick.
It's all very customizable and im not sure why more people dont play this way.
For me, I dont type well and have to look at the keyboard... so keybindings for tank movement are a nightmare. I also have PTSD and fine control of a mouse is very difficult in stressful fire fights. I find the joystick mutes almost all of my herky jerky motions out into a smooth and aimable interface.
Definitely enjoyed this vid. I look forward to more in this series. You do good work Spookston.
My neighbor had to inspect a few Abrams that got knocked out in Iraq and his comments on them were "Even though they're burned they still look operational"
Genuinely good review with minimal unnecessary opinion.
Someone: can we get a meme review?
Spookston: Nah we don’t do that here.
Noiceeee... Can't wait for all the other modern MBTs analysis from you! Leopard 2, T-90s, T-14 Armata, Challenger 2, Merkava, Type 99, K2 Black Panther, LeClerc, Ariete, and many more!
great new series, i'm looking forward to future episodes!
I like this format quite a bit! Looking forward to seeing more of it.
I do like the cover specially the part were you can see the commander and loader on the hmg and mg
Love this review with WT gameplay in the background
Thx for reviewing my all time favourite tank! U make the best WT contents!
The mans Spookston not making a joke on April Fools, but a quality video. What a legend.
Being a US Army tanker i still get star struck by how quiet it is. Hence why a lot of tankers call her "whispering death".
The city I grew up in used to do this annual parade and one year, I don't know how, but they got an Abrams to show up just to let people look at it and kids climb all over it. I think I was 12 at the time? It was fucking awesome. They even did a little drive in an intersection. I remember how piercing the turbine was, so cool.
I think the Abrams is a solid tank despite its age, however its age and load limit are becoming an issue as mentioned. Of course, we don't really know how the Abrams will fare against another modern MBT (and hopefully we never find ourselves in a situation where we have to find out), but there comes a point where a machine has to be replaced despite how effective it is because it's too far behind the times.
Good overall video. Happy you went into actual history of the Abrams and how complicated the development process can be. The polar opinions on the Abrams in my opinion come from 19 series with such differing experiences with the platform. Some units have users that don't know how to run a BIT test or putting in hydraulic fluid. Other units *cough* National Guard *cough* have crews that have been training for literal decades together and probably have more troubleshooting knowledge than even MGs. Hence such polarizing opinions.
Great video. Keep up the good work.
Amazing video! I love the new series already! I've left suggestions on your videos before one of which was to try and be more conversational sometimes, allow the audience to feel like your talking with us not lecturing to us and this is just that, and the personal opinions and less monotone presentation made it very enjoyable. Keep at it spook ur awesome!
Spookston vs red effect, the battle of the century
Dude I love your channel and as a 19K
I'm really glad that you did such a good job on this video
(I know I know, I'm late)
I never knew that there was so much speculation about the M1's engine. Nor that it preceded the MBT-70. Very informative, definitely watching future episodes.
You should do a series on the more overlooked technologies and facets in tank design and life: e.g. optics, armor styles (explosive reactive, composite, etc.), projectile types, engines, crew space, how they live in the field when not driving, how field repairs are done. that type of stuff.
the discussion will be eternal once you get around a Leopard and merkava review
Can't wait for you to do the T-90! It's one of my favourite tanks
Great video. Being very familiar with turbines I don’t know why you would really want anything else. This really is a constant power application. More like a boat than a car. Turbines work by being at speed and you basically just extract torque. Very efficient from a power management perspective.
The only time an abrams tank was knock out off combat was when they were hit by their own due to friendly fire or to avoid capture by the enemies
In a documentation I heard the front of the hull has an armament, equivalent to 610 mm rolled steel. And the material seems to be mostly ceramics, made of depleted Uranium.
A clarification about the auxilary power generator. This was present on the A1 but removed on the A2. The A2SEPv3 has it planned to bring it back to the tank but this version has not been fielded.
The Abrams is definitely a good vehicle, among the best in the world. Also its almost impossible to determine the "best tank" in the world. Like there is no such thing. Every tank designed for the same purpose, but with different priorities in mind, to meet the needs of the country designing it.
Nice video man!
As an Australian Teaaboo, cant wait for the cents, chiefs and challys
Decent video and nice short and to the point. Somethings I'd like to point out though
-the tanks we are receiving to replace the sepv2s aren't labeled as M1A2C anymore, simply M1A2 SEPv3.
-you're more or less on the nose about the mobility aspect, but in my experience it *can* be sluggish sometimes in muddy terrain. Yet again, my tank I was driving was having constant DECU and engine issues so it wouldn't accelerate quickly or reach top speed or go above 1000 RPM bevause it was stuck in a "protective mode" so it wouldn't further damage the engine. Every tank is different and they all drive a little different and have their own quirks.
I really wish you had made more of these.
Like the new series. hope to get more vid like this in the near future :)
Mechanicus OST on the background. Nice.
Love your videos man! I hope you do an M-4 review next!
Armata and M1 TTB are the reverse of the MBT70 where the whole crew is in the hull.
thank you for not pranking us today
With each successive video you put out I can see that the average number of views you're getting per video seems to be increasing. Steady growth. I like it.
As a tank crewman from 1968-71, my experience is on the M48 in Vietnam and the M60 in West Germany. Crew training sucked. Even in the line units, no one set a standard and trained people to meet it. In Vietnam, we used mostly canister so precise aiming wasn’t important. In Europe the threat is an enemy tank so you better have your gun sighted to shoot at point of aim. I don’t remember any training to bore sight the gun or to see if it was on target at the range. If you missed, it was your fault.
I read a book called Tank Sergeant, written by a Ralph Zumbro ("Zippo"), who was supposedly with (IIRC) 1/69th in the central highlands in 1967-68. His descriptions included about a 50/50 mix of HE and canister, although I'm having trouble confirming anything to decide if it was a questionable memoir, bullcrap fiction disguised as a memoir, or pretty solid.
As far as the engine goes, one really has to ask himself, if the higher consumption of fuel is offset by a less noisy engine. After all it means, you need to move more fuel supplies around, to keep things running.
The upper armor plate of Abrams is not composite, so newer rounds might have an easier time penetrating it due to improved penetration angles.
Other than that it had some problems, that are fixed by now, like inadequate air filtering for the engine, lack of independent comander sight, lack of thermal sight for the comander.
So it's hard to predict, how the tank will develop from this point on.
Great video! Continue this series
Love the idea, I hope to see more tank reviews
The Chad Spookston giving us a real video on April Fool's day.