i too changed the rear to a 44, and got the same results , the reason i took this path was in towns and small country roads it felt that in had to go from gear to gear in slow moving traffic, as i live in the UK its hell. so with the 44 it made life a little better, and i will never go on dirt, as i am to old and bits and bobs will break so easy , and take a long time to heal.
Thanks for the video, it’s good idea to grease the countershaft splines before sprocket installation. Also, maybe treat yourself to an electric impact gun! (for bolt removal only)
I did a similar mod but went with a 14-tooth front w/speedo healer. Good choice either way I figure. I have kept it that way for 40K miles, I have 44K on it now. Heading to Alaska in June. Good content, I enjoy the channel.
I have done other things to my bike that may have impacted fuel mileage. Full exhaust, booster plug, knobby tires, etc…so I can’t really say how this has effected it. The change has been great for me. I would recommend the speedo healer.
@@1LiterADVHi there, thank you for the the great content that you guys have been sharing with your videos. I’ve been traveling in and off-road almost every weekend with out any modifications yet. I’m very interested in doing the “booster plug” and the “44 rear sprocket” that you did. And I would like to know how many miles average you can ride with your full fuel tank.
I have never really worried much about mpg…so its never really been on my radar. I’m heavy throttled much of the time, especially off-road. I will say it went down but you have plenty of range to ride say a BDR between stops. If I had to guess maybe shave off 20 miles range per tanks just to be safe on calculation.
@1 LiterADV we do need a 7th maybe even an 8th gear. In most cases when a bike has a 5 speed the engine often has a wider spread of usable power. Older automatic cars were only 3 speed now almost all are 8 speed it's because the newer engines only perform in a narrow rpm band
@russellgreen5211 no I don’t think I’d make that claim, and I don’t think DCT owners would recommend it either. I believe DCT is a different beast all together.
Yep….love it on and off road. Performs even better than I expected. Currently in Arkansas doing twisties and off roads. I did install a speedo healer tho
are you sure that the speedo is read from the back wheel, i would have thought it would be read from the front wheel so it gets an actual ground speed without wheel spin
The speed ring on the front wheel is your ABS. The speed of bike is calculated from other variables. Simple fix with speedo healer. Corrects speed of bike, (which is off from factory), and corrects mileage from being off too. Pros and cons…. But the benefits are a way better bike in the short gears and low speed riding.
takes 5 seconds to remove the drive sprocket with an impact and you dont even need to lock the wheels down. Electric impacts have selectable torque settings and it doesn't hurt the nut at all.
Yep, the DCT is the question I’d also like to hear answered. I’ve often made chain/sprocket changes to suit the purpose of my riding but, with respect to the AF DCT I just bought . . . I’m stumped.
I installed a booster plug and I have also installed a speedo healer. I’m not really concerned about MPG, it’s more about excitement per mile for me. I have never ridden any motorcycle for economy…. Only for thrill. I love the change, but it’s not for everyone. However, you are correct MPG does change, but mostly because you want to twist throttle more.
i too changed the rear to a 44, and got the same results , the reason i took this path was in towns and small country roads it felt that in had to go from gear to gear in slow moving traffic, as i live in the UK its hell. so with the 44 it made life a little better, and i will never go on dirt, as i am to old and bits and bobs will break so easy , and take a long time to heal.
I did the same to my 2016 AT several years back. Works good for me . Also added a speedohealer to get speedometer reading correct....Nice video.
Thanks for the feedback and complement. I’ll look into the speedohealer.
@@1LiterADV. It's a real PIA to install.
Do you know which wire harness for AT?
@@1LiterADV .for my 2016 mt-SH-HO5.
Thanks for info. I’ll look into it and possibly do install video. I’m assuming plug is under tank.
Thanks for the video, it’s good idea to grease the countershaft splines before sprocket installation. Also, maybe treat yourself to an electric impact gun! (for bolt removal only)
I don’t think I would use impact on drive sprocket. Probably fine to do, but I like manual wrenches mostly.
You must have got that $100 hammer at Abercrombie & Fitch. Great video guys!
Lol. The red snap-on I’ve had since 93. The new one is a Menards discount rack special.
great job
I did a similar mod but went with a 14-tooth front w/speedo healer. Good choice either way I figure. I have kept it that way for 40K miles, I have 44K on it now. Heading to Alaska in June. Good content, I enjoy the channel.
Awesome. Thanks for the feedback.
Has your fuel mileage been impacted? I’ve done the same mod on mine, 15 tooth and speedo healer. Haven’t done a big trip since the mod
I have done other things to my bike that may have impacted fuel mileage. Full exhaust, booster plug, knobby tires, etc…so I can’t really say how this has effected it. The change has been great for me. I would recommend the speedo healer.
@@1LiterADVHi there, thank you for the the great content that you guys have been sharing with your videos. I’ve been traveling in and off-road almost every weekend with out any modifications yet. I’m very interested in doing the “booster plug” and the “44 rear sprocket” that you did. And I would like to know how many miles average you can ride with your full fuel tank.
I have never really worried much about mpg…so its never really been on my radar. I’m heavy throttled much of the time, especially off-road. I will say it went down but you have plenty of range to ride say a BDR between stops. If I had to guess maybe shave off 20 miles range per tanks just to be safe on calculation.
It's always better to gear lower for off road. But on most bikes at higher speed we prefer lower rpm if we can.
Agreed. There is a fine balance between the two. We often wonder if our bikes need a 7th gear for extra low rpm highway touring…
@1 LiterADV we do need a 7th maybe even an 8th gear. In most cases when a bike has a 5 speed the engine often has a wider spread of usable power. Older automatic cars were only 3 speed now almost all are 8 speed it's because the newer engines only perform in a narrow rpm band
Its almost always bad idea for adv bike.
If you use it only in dirt then u need dirt bike not adv. Low rpms on road trips ftw
Awesome video! Love the cheap negotiator
Ha…I’m glad someone can relate to my dry humor. However it was “chief” negotiator
@@1LiterADV lol
Brilliant !
Glad you liked it.
Well worth a sub, great production! We must be on a similar wave length - lol
Thanks for the sub!
Hello. For DCT models is NOT recommend modify the gearing more than 1 tooth in the front sprocket or 2 teeth in the rear.
Is this a Honda recommendation? If so, is the recommendation in the manual or on a site?
@UncleWally3 Honda recommendation….no. Personal choice.
@@UncleWally3 on a site
So are you saying that going 2 more teeth to a 44 rear is still okay for the DCT?
@russellgreen5211 no I don’t think I’d make that claim, and I don’t think DCT owners would recommend it either. I believe DCT is a different beast all together.
Another informative video, with a little humour in the background 😀 looking very polished 
How much is the mph out on the speedo ?
Thanks for comment. Speedo is off, probably 5-6mph in 6th taching 5K.
well that math program is great, but we need info on FIRST Gear, where maneuvering at low speed is Crucial for our tach speed
I don’t have any mathematical statics….but I do feel improvement in slow speeds as gears are shorter
What model EK chain did you go with? Great video!
Thanks for compliment. EK SRX2 130 link.
How is this going for you? I have a 16/44 on my 2016 manual AT and find it much better in every way you mentioned.
Couldn’t agree more. I love the change
Give changes, will the 2024/25 engine still benefit (as much) from this sprocket configuration?
Don’t have that real world experience…but I would say “yes” if I had to guess.
So, it's been a month - how is it? Do you like riding it better, can it pop wheelies easier, do all the things you wanted it to do?
Yep….love it on and off road. Performs even better than I expected. Currently in Arkansas doing twisties and off roads. I did install a speedo healer tho
i need to do for my africatwin adv sport 2020 i need to ask is better for off road
Absolutely
are you sure that the speedo is read from the back wheel, i would have thought it would be read from the front wheel so it gets an actual ground speed without wheel spin
The speed ring on the front wheel is your ABS. The speed of bike is calculated from other variables. Simple fix with speedo healer. Corrects speed of bike, (which is off from factory), and corrects mileage from being off too. Pros and cons…. But the benefits are a way better bike in the short gears and low speed riding.
takes 5 seconds to remove the drive sprocket with an impact and you dont even need to lock the wheels down. Electric impacts have selectable torque settings and it doesn't hurt the nut at all.
Does it work with DCT ?
I have read issues on DCT bikes, but do not have any experience. You would need to do the research.
Yep, the DCT is the question I’d also like to hear answered. I’ve often made chain/sprocket changes to suit the purpose of my riding but, with respect to the AF DCT I just bought . . . I’m stumped.
I wish I could help on the DCT issue. I have read but can’t really confirm that there are issues when changing sprockets on the auto.
@@1LiterADV what issues? I'm getting one soon, be nice to know! Just about gearing, or reliability? 😎
Whether or not a sprocket change would interfere with DCT programming.
Begs a question, why doesn’t Honda use that ratio?
All sprocket match from old africa twin 750
Front sprocket cbr600f
but are you going to destroy the mpg?
I installed a booster plug and I have also installed a speedo healer. I’m not really concerned about MPG, it’s more about excitement per mile for me. I have never ridden any motorcycle for economy…. Only for thrill. I love the change, but it’s not for everyone. However, you are correct MPG does change, but mostly because you want to twist throttle more.
do I hear a danish accent? halløj der . danish american her. :)
If you’re hearing Yev, there may be a slight Russian accent going on.
@@1LiterADV ok , heard wrong . Thx for videos😁
Bro got KO’d by a green ball 😭
Finally someone noticed… sheesh
Id gear it even lower
I don’t think you’d like sitting in 6th very long going lower. No doubt 1-3 would be very exciting… but top end would be very annoying in my opinion.