Lufia 2 Was Beaten In 51 Seconds By Speedrunners
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- Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2021
- Lufia 2 speedrunning is really broken, here's why.
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I hope you all enjoyed!
1. Stay hydrated folks
2. I know the audio is a bit wonky, YT does some level changes on uploading. I'll fix for the next vid!
This game was my entire childhood, along with Terranigma
Good video btw
Was about to comment the audio, good thing you noticed.
12 minutes to explain a 51 second run? Dont waste my time. Cant you "speedrun" these videos? Oh ya, then you wont get that AD revenue right?
These videos are all filler, no killer.
3. Hello, eeWxr "bevebu "erl "bmyself[
Lufia 2 is the most criminally slept on SNES RPG of all time, it's innovative and packed full of content
In some cases it had puzzles more interesting than zelda games...
The Cave is also fun with its Rogue like playstyle. The Games Ending is just so sad.
Lufia 2 was hands down the best RP turn based game on the SNES.
Amazing graphic style, wide array of characters, beautiful music, multi layered map travel ( submarine, land, skyboat ) casino mini games, the ancient cave ( a game within the game imo ) a comedy duo of 2 goofy bad guys, and an AMAZING story with anything but a cookie cutter ending.
And then you pop in Street Fighter 2.
The difference becomes crystal clear. Lufia 2 was ahead of it's time and in a league of its own.
No other SNES game was THIS extensive.
Legend of Zelda, Link to the past will always be my first memory when thinking of the SNES.
But Lufia 2 will always be the best memory.
WTF is criminally slept? lol
It has a full 51 seconds of content even!
Imagine mispronouncing someone's name so bad you accidentally cast eldritch magic and send them into the future.
"I BEQUEATH THEE ANCIENT GODS, *GRANT THEE A NAME, NICK KURSE,* _AND BESTOWETH LIMITLESS POWER_ FOREVERMORE"
I love the interaction at 9:00
Maxim: "Bout some like has"
And the fucking stove starts talking about its tears not stopping
There is a hammer glitch where if you use the hammer on the last frame of movement you will actually move an extra space. The first time you go to get the engine for the ship. When you leave your boat the place under the castle has a cutscene trigger. If you use the hammer glitch to skip the event trigger you will instead trigger the event that sends you to sinistral island for the end game.
Welp that comment made me check this out, and yes it works.
Doesn't do anything for the Run mentioned in the Video, but the general Speedrun of Lufia II could get shortened by 15~ Minutes or something like that because of this little Trick.
So yeah, there are tricks in the Dark even Speedrunner don't know about, and here it is a perfect example of it.
I might mess with that Trick the next few days to see if it can potentially even do more Stuff.
Thanks for the Input!
@@VultuZ Thanks for verifying this. My friend had discovered this trick by accident back in like 2003-2005. We found this by accident because we used to think it was hilarious to slide around the game using the hammer. Never thought of its potential to save time, but we used to do the Castle Skip to make the game more challenging.
I was honestly afraid to talk about it, as i could not find ONE PERSON who knew of it that knew of Lufia 2. And thought it may have been a defect in my physical copy and not reproducable.
I subscribed and hope to hear back on how you can put it to use.
Man, what a crazy way for a glitch to get introduced to the speedrunning community...
@@starbournehero771 These kind of community interactions happen relativly often, imo. It's just most of the time some sort of school yard talk that runners and runner-adjacent people then try themselves. Here it is one of the nice classical cases of someone knowing of a glitch/bug for years, it gets tested, verified and might get implemented. He can pat himself on the shoulder, he might have forced runners to execute even more frameperfect inputs. :D
You’re like a speed runner yourself with these videos - there’s no fat on these bones, it’s 100% entertaining. Great content
Lufia 2 is an incredible game, you 100% made the right choice in covering it. It's one of the best RPGs on a system that has some of the best RPGs of all time on it.
When I first played Lufia II, I thought the story was kinda slow, but after few hours it really picked up and I couldn't put it down. That bittersweet ending always gets me.
Love how you went against the vote lol. Lufia 2 was a game that I loved and started to speedrun it. Love how the community it's awesome just like earthbound community.
Wasn't the vote for what we thought what will be the next video. Not for what we want the next video to be?
Don't care, just glad that you did this video! I would run through this game so quick in elementary and middle school! Never was a record holder but I'm glad to see this video!
Final fantasy is overrated anyway
Makes having a poll and voting absolutely pointless.
@@TheNorthsider615 me to bro
Players making games glitch out this badly usually feels like some kind of dark art, but with Lufia 2 it's impossible to surprise me.
My only reaction to hearing you can warp to the credits in under a minute is "Yeah, that sounds right."
There was definitely a time whenI attempted to go for a record speedrun with Lufia 2. It was around 2013 or so, because I remember trying to challenge Cvagts time of 4:02:23, but I just never could get some inputs right, leaving my best time at about 4:21:51. Then Happysquid 89 came along the following January, a day before my B-day, completely obliterated Cvagts time by almost an hour, and I lost all motivation to keep at it.
Uhhh, happy birthday? I guess? 😆
@@Poglavnit_Pferdefuhrer thanks, appreciate that whether you mean it or not
Lufia II was my first speedgame ever, so it has a special place in my heart.
And it's great to see you cover an RPG that has been not as known as the big boys out there, even though the gameplay is very solid!
Great explanation about this glitch too! I knew about the final result of this glitchy run. But I did not know the entire history of it.
So I am glad that you took the time and effort to make such a great video that explains it all.
It helped innovate roguelikes AND helped innovate moster collecting. Certainly a beast of a game to play.
The power of "bout some like has". I love that.
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Good Video!
Amazing how you managed to present the story about this so accurate. Most of the information about these runs got lost over the years because of poor recordings from our (runners) side. Most of the Videos and information about Lufia II got lost im Limbo (that basically includes everything except the Ancient Cave Runs).
Right now i wouldnt be able to pull a run like this off anymore. I haven't done this in forever.
By the way since it didn't got mentioned in the Video:
I have no real proof for that, but i wouldn't recomend doing the Level 0 Glitch stuff (especially the Name and Inventory corruption) on a real Lufia II cartridge.
I had multiple ROM's dying and crashing randomly by trying these things back then.
If this would happen to a real cartridge, i couldn't forgive myself by not at least warning people not to try it.
Anyway, nice Video, that explains my influx on the Lufia II Videos i had on RUclips the last 2 days :P
Keep it up
Yeah, I got the impression this was going to use a cartridge trick at first. Good to hear this warning about not using the hardware.
Lufia 2 was one of my favorite RPGs for the SNES, but it was definitely janky. The coding for the menus, and especially the inventory, was held together with the equivalent of spit and duct tape. Even just a little messing around could result in the minor permanent renaming of Selan to eSlan, or bug the game into an infinite reloading loop that wipes all saved progress (including disabling Retry mode). But I loved the characters and the story. I wish there was enough interest to have it remade for the current generation.
Looks like I subscribed to the channel just in time the other day!
Lufia 2 finally got the recognition it deserves as one of the SNES' finest JRPG gems a decade late, but it's always held the crown for most openly glitched RPG on the SNES. It was so easy to stumble upon all the corruption you can cause via menu inputs alone that most players probably discovered it casually out of curiosity. And this isn't even getting into goodies like the famously scuffed Submarine Shrine!
So, basically give the game a stroke and make it give you the ending?
That's Arbitrary Code Execution for you!
The only thing that can make Tia cry are the words, "bout some like has"
Lufia 2 was my first "I have to own this cart" rental. it didn't introduce me to roguelike mechanics, that was a genesis game, but damn did it make me LOVE them
Thanks for making a video on Lufia. A big part of my gaming childhood.
The game holds up so well after all these years. There's some great mods out there too.
I wonder how many of these glitches are still available on the PAL release - I think a lot of them were patched in the version I grew up with.
I mean, I'm sure speedrunners would all be running NTSC anyway, but still.
DoctorSwellman: _sees eLmagus_ "El-magus"
also DoctorSwellman: _sees Voltus_ "Voltooz"
I recall getting this game at a young age. One of the corners of the cartridge was broken, and you could see inside.
There was a save already on the game when I got it.
When I started a new game, I had access to the pots that the egg dragon gives you that increase the stats of who you give them too.
I thought that was the coolest thing, until now :)
Great vid mate, ty!
Awesome video as always. Keep up the great work my dude.
I do appreciate that SMTV OST you used!
Great stuff as always :)
You know it's a good day when Dr Swellman hits you with the prescribed speedrun video
1:47 i used to love that guy's fanfiction back in the day
I'm impressed that I actually recognized the text in that screenshot on your community post. Lufia 2 was a good game, glad I played it ages ago.
Lufia is such a cool game and it amazes me how people find this stuff.
I remember Lufia 2 being really broken when I played it when I was younger. Pressing L and R in the menu, accessing the config menu, and capsule monsters were all messed up for me. I remember one of the maps before getting dual blade got blanked out which basically softlocked me out of beating the game lol. Don't know if these were common glitches. My copy was used and then later survived a house fire lol.
Lol no, that is definitely not normal.
WOW this just reminded me of my own experience, the capsule monsters were messed up beyond recognition, i didn't understand why, that must have been it!
The map where you get Dual Blade (Submarine Shrine) is broken on every North American copy of Lufia 2 but can still be navigated by trial and error. IIRC it's because the tileset was modified to censor crosses, though that might not really be why, it's just an explanation I read once. The same thing happens to the final floor of the Ancient Cave.
I loved this game. It had a lot of issues though that I never understood how they got past play testing. Thankfully they never stopped the game from being beaten. The bugs I found:
1) Changing audio config by pushing left stomps memory.
2) Some obscure caves are missing names and display garbage text.
3) Town names upon entry and in the warp list were translated differently and don’t match, though they sound the same when read out loud.
4. The tile set is corrupted in the submarine shrine and you cannot see where you are going. You must complete this part to advance the main story. Thankfully you only need to walk forward and the rest is dialog.
5. Same with the bottom floor of the Ancient Cave.
A neat thing I found. If you beat Gades in your first battle with him, he has 8000 HP, you still lose, but you get the Gades Blade and he sounds less condescending and more pissed off. You also get a ton of experience and gold. However you probably only have a shot without a ridiculous amount of grinding in Retry mode as it quadruples experience and gold earned. Even in Retry mode with minor grinding, it’s still difficult to keep Tia alive while battling Gades.
please make more videos like this! love the history of these speedruns!!!
Oh, man. Lufia 2 was my jam. It's still one of my favorite RPGs. I definitely never knew about these glitches, though. Still learning things after all these years!
Thank you for this one, BTW. I've been wondering about this glitch for a while (it has been mentioned at *DQ, but I haven't seen anyone describing it in any detail before this, other then that it involves a glitch and level "0")
日本人です。私の好きなゲームが動画になっていてすごく嬉しいです！海外でも人気があることは知ってました。コメントもファンの方が多くてとても嬉しいです😆
That moment when the run takes about twelve times as long to explain as to execute
A true speedrunning moment
Everyone: Talking about Lufia 2 being the best RPGs to speedrun.
Me: Wondering about CVagts's Grandpa and his OCD
2:38 "My grandpa had OCD. Every day, he'd take a gym sock, fill it with nickels, and just beat us" Jesus. Kinda funny though, in a very dark way
It's like the No Yelling Sock vine! It goes "Every time you yell at your brothers, go put a quarter in your no yelling sock and soon you'll have a weapon to beat them with."
Haven't really seen much of this game but still very interesting nonetheless. Awesome video Doc :)
Great video man. I love this game and it makes me happy to see it get attention. You earned a subscribe from me.
Yooo I love the world of shadows song you used at the end
I respect and admire the effort, commitment and knowledge that these runners have for their games.
I will say that at the same time, there comes a point where I stop seeing what they're doing as speedrunning a game, and start seeing it more like a competitive glitch showcase.
But as I said before, nothing but respect and admiration for their talent and effort. Keep on exploring and having fun :)
Bout Some Like Has. The most cathartic phrase in the English language.
it's always fascinating to me how people manage to find wild glitches like this
Neat analysis! Was a very interesting & novel topic! Thanks for uploading!
This is my favorite game of ALL time. I'm happy that I see others playing it and even speed running it. Yet seeing it just get destroyed in UNDER A minute breaks my heart for some reason. Thanks for the video though. I really hope they continue the series.
My all time favorites has been bof 1/2 Lufia 1/2 and ff6. This was great to see and hear about the game since I haven’t played it in like 20 years
Have you tried the fan remake "FFVI return of the dark sorcerer"?
I am having fun on it.
Reminds me of the pokemon glitch in gen 1 games with the stat level /escape rope out of battle glitch
A new video from Doc! Got to grab my water and stay hydrated
I love seeing my childhood bent over and handled.
yeesh
I hear summoning salt music. Now it's an official a speed running video.
I don't know if I have seen your videos before, but you have Legend of Dragoon music in the background so I'm subbing now.
the game was excellent.
the 100 level basement with the blob was a game within the game
You did the right thing going against the crowd! Great video!
Lost the vote but won the war. Thanks for another great vid! I can tell you have become more comfortable as a narrator.
-Noodle
The lvl 1 dungeon in lufia II remains one of my favorite 'mini' games in any rpg.
Me: ( *enters 7 Eleven* )
Cashier: Hello, eeWxr “bevebu "erl s bmyself[
My finger: ( *plummets through floor* )
Lufia 2 and lunar 2 are two games which were my fucking jam in HS and you're yhe first youtubist I've seen mention either. Cheers for the nostalgia trip mate
Glad someone mentioned Lunar! Loved Lunar 1 & 2!!
Oooh. Gimme more Lufia Content, this one was good
Man, RUclips suggested me a Lufia 2 related video. Three days after it got released. This might be the first time in over a decade that this algorithm actually worked for me.
I actually recognize the music track that starts around 6:50. Moschet Manor, from FF:CC. Love that game.
Top 10 game. Maybe top 5. Got the giant slime Iris item after a 14 hour marathon one night in like ‘97, and the day my battery dies is the day my childhood dies.
How it looks in real life: “Hey, check out my name tag!” “Oh no, you scribbled all over it! And now I can’t stop crying!”
I am literally playing Lufia 2 on my N3DS right now and in
B82 in the Ancient Cave
this game story is so epic and 100 times fold deserves a remake
the ds remake ( although appreciated )did not do enough justice
Love to see some Lufia 2 content. Now go down the Ancient Cave madness
*action replay codes for all stat potions to 999 bar the mgr...check.
*cheat some multi swords, egg swords, spark staves and code to turn red jellies to gold dragons to boost the start of the dungeon...check.
*WHERE'S THAT DAMN BIG ASSED JELLY NOW???
oh and also the code to make EVERY floor jammed with chests and monsters so yo get to lv 99 by about floor 50-60!!!!!! CHECK!
thankgod you did lufia II, it really is a hidden gem
Flash the capsule monster in ancient cave is a must!!!! Then Blaze!!!!!
My first Lufia game was the gba color port on 3ds so this came to me n I instantly got excited
You know you're in for an interesting story when the length of the video is longer than the length of the speedrun it's talking about.
Having mentioned the soundtrack,I seem to be missing the track you start at 5:23ish, unless it's not from a Lufia game(it sounded like an Ogre Battle track to me)-my copies of the soundtracks for the games are woefully incomplete so it wouldn't be a surprise if I just forgot some of them...sadly.
Great job on the video
"...and then a runner named Matt Turk would swoop in to take the record..."
Great history of how broken this game is. Legend of Dragoon and SMT5 soundtracks also real good.
This was probably my first RPG ever. The game is incredible and it's still one of my favorite games to this day. Thanks for showing it some love.
My friend introduced me to this game back then, It was funny as how he couldn't beat some of the puzzles, the world's hardest puzzle I did first with no help, and I was the first to get to the bottom of the ancient cave without cheats or tricks!!!! Now I can finally tell him that the "Galactic Lancer" DOES NOT EXIST AT ALL AS A WEAPON!!!!! H e was so adamant that it was real...
Yea yes so go beat lufia 5.
I loved this game and the ancient cave. Not sure if the glitch also worked in the German version I played as a kid.
Lufia, Lunar, and Tactics Ogre have a very special place in my heart
yay one of my favorite games thanks for doing this
im remember back then in 90. i played lufia 2 when the glitch happen, and the game froze... and i gave up... 25 year later . .. after wattching this video.... i must finished what i have started 25 years ago
But I didn't click to see a sub-one-minute run. I clicked to see the new DoctorSwellman video!
Great video! I adore this RPG SR history videos as I'm not really into speedrunning and frankly, I'm not really fond of speedrunning as entertainment or a sport. But I love a good story and speedrunning is full of them and RPG's have been sorely underrepresented. I also must say I loved your use of dropshadows on screenshots, windowed gameplay etc. It gave the video a very professional aura. I can't wait for you to cover some PS1 RPG's maybe in the future.
I've expected a demon showcase at the end.
My first RPG ever. What a great one to start with and oh so underrated. This is way up there with the Breath of Fire 2, FF6 and Chrono Trigger SNES era.
i love the use of ff crystal chronicles music
I love this series. I own the first and second and I love going back and playing them again. Have great rng memories from that game.
the game that can be speedrun 1800-2400 times a stream
That Castlevania 64 music taking me back.
5:14 "less importantly" god i love this channel lmao
Thanks for doing this I’m more interested in this game anyway and you gained a sub
I appreciate Lufia 2 but I am here for the Castlevania Legacy of Darkness music in the background XD
Another video i didn't expected to see Umineko characters
Lufia 1 was one of my favorite games as a kid. I was only able to beat it through renting a cartridge that someone else saved nearly at the end. But that twist blew my mind, and to this day I still regard it as one of the best RPGs. With that said, Swellman's video inspired me to break Lufia II as well, my best run being 1 min 18 sec so far.
@DoctorsSwellman im glad you did this because Lufia is a good game that many people dont know about! I appreciate this!
Jokes on you, I clicked this video because it's a Lufia 2 video!
Does finishing the game before starting by not playing count?
Lucia and it's prequel are cult classics. Fantastic games all around
Good call on not picking FF. This was an interesting run I would have never seen otherwise.
ok i have played this on my snes but did not get any "glitches" of any kind. where are the glitches?
I'm doing exactly as the guides describe, but it's not working. I'm so confused at what I could possibly be doing wrong.
Request for next challenge in Lufia 2. Fastest to get to and beat Jelly Juggernaut.
Would love to watch, but the audio is so low that I can’t hear anything
Lufia 1 and 2 deserves more love.