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Powerful Debate | Is the Trinity Divine? | Adnan Rashid vs. James White | Revisiting
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I am just discovering these issues and Brother Adnan already dealt with them, heavyweights in Dawah. May Allah reward you
Who gave Khadija or Ibn Neafal the AUTHORITY to tell a Demon possessed man that the vision he had in the cave was the Angel Gabriel???
Who??
Therein lay your delusion brother.
Peace be unto all the misguided
Only thru JESUS CHRIST can you walk the path towards the Kingdom of Heaven.
Amen
@@thepilgrim1581 who gave you authority aswell?
@@thepilgrim1581 Holly spirit 😂
@@indianrevertchannel1230 keep deceiving yourself, just claiming something doesn't make it true, if you are skeptical of our narrative we can aswell return the courtesy. Find better more fundamental arguments not these weak subjective ones. (For example Theological arguments - they are more objective)
@@africandawahrevival
I expect many Muslims to give me the answer but instead you fail.
Amen
It’s always so good to watch adnan’s debates it’s always delightful
here, ladies and gentlemen, you see the difference between a preacher and a scholar. thanks Adnan
It's funny isn't it? 🤣🤣🤣
When there are no evidences or facts...then the next best strategy is to start preaching to "pull on heart strings"...appeal to emotions....smh
adnan you ended and handled this debate like a legend mashallah
Adnan you make us pakistani proud may allah bless you and your family a thousand times more!
Are Pakistanis the only Muslims? Your duaa should be for all the Muslims.
Muslims love him
Utterances not befitting this deluded scholar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Arrogance is the problem of this. scholar ( Dr white)!!!!!
There is no God worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad is His final Prophet and Messenger.
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
***Muhammad***
“Peace be unto You, and the Mercy and Blessings of Allah! All Praise is Due to Allah, Who has been Merciful to the World, and Has Sent His Christ against the Ungodly, who led the world Astray. He has come with Truth more Clear than all of Us Beasts of the Field, and will execute Vengeance against those who corrupted Our Words. I rejoice, because through him, Allah shall be Known and Glorified, and I shall be known to be True!
You have heard testimonies from both Moses, and Jesus! Keep the things that Allah Commands, and do as they have bidden! Take what We have given you firmly, and listen, if you are Believers. Our Works are better than the Beasts of the Earth. Do not accept the Books of their Teachings, nor the words of those they instructed. There are many things contained therein that are not True! O You who believe the Qur'an! Let not your heart stop there - many things therein are Interpolations by the Hands of Man! For example; I always called Jesus, the Son of Mary, and never called him the Christ!
John is the Christ, and I made it known! When I was still with my companions, I said to them: ‘Await him, for whoever listens to him, listens to me; and whoever disregards him, disregards me; and whoever disregards me, disregards Allah Who sent me! Prophesy these words to those who shall come to worship in the Lord’s House, and all the words that I demand you - keep back not one word!’ ….. They laboriously served the Most High, after having all these things made known unto them!
Those of you Today! Why do you not know these things and contend against him? It is because of these Interpolators! Woe to them for what their hands have written - they despise Allah! They have also despised Moses, and have despised Jesus, and have despised me! They have corrupted so much, that Today a thing is not sought because Allah commanded it, but men look to what they have written!
He who reads This, please understand as I will show you another example! It is they who wrote, I am the Seal of the Prophets! Do you think their Lies should be believed? Consider this! Just as they lied saying, Jesus is the Christ, they have spoken in my name Lying words! Don’t you know that the Messiah must come? When I lived in the world, I Prophesied this! Now how could I be the Seal? Know therefore, in the Faith of the Messiah, shall be saved everyone who is Elect of Allah! Will you despise him? By Allah's Will, I tell you: ‘This is he!’ ….. His mouth shall pour forth all that had been hidden of Our Wisdom and Counsel. It is necessary to deny your own judgment and to follow his - thus Allah Wills! He who believes shall be Saved, but he who believes not shall be Condemned!
O Jesus, speak a word for Us that they may be made Clean! ….. ‘O you Seekers of Truth! I have come to manifest the Christ to men. Bear witness to the Truth I speak, and rebuke the scribes, the priests, and doctors of the Law - they know not anything. That is why you do not know the Christ! Behold the Light and witness for yourself, and you shall know the Truth! If John is not the Christ, whom Allah Promised to reveal to men, will he do greater works, as does this man? He is the Messiah of whom all Us Prophets said would come!
Bear witness to the Truth I speak! If you believe me not, you will dwell in Darkness. From where did he get his Wisdom? You scorn it at your Peril! He beholds Allah at every moment, every day. He must do, and does, the Will of Allah! False Prophets come and go; they claim to know the Way, but they do not know Allah's Word! They say that John is dead; listen not to what they say! John is Alive, and John's words are not the words of one Obsessed; these are the words We received from Allah!’ …..
All you who still have doubts! Did We not say unto you: ‘At the mouth of two or three Witnesses, shall every matter be established?’ ….. Blessed are your ears if you Hear these things! In the age that has just passed, many desired to hear and see and know these words. This is an Age which Allah has Blessed. Recognize and give Salutation to Him!
I was the last on watch, and by the blessings of the Lord, I excelled! I am indeed a Messenger of Allah, whom Allah sent to pave the Way! Now the Christ has come. Do you understand? O you who have followed me, now be followers of John! Deceive not yourselves, it is my time to depart - Truly he must follow me! He shall shine forth as a Sun of Knowledge, to destroy the darkness and illusions in this world! Hear it and know it for your good!
O you who harbor Doubts! Take hold of this Book with might. Hearken to what is said herein, and it shall serve as Spiritual Food for you! In what has the Messenger done amiss? It is written herein that Allah by His Word, Created All Things! What is it he declares? It is written herein that Allah has no needs; that He eats not, sleeps not, and suffers not! What is it he attempts at dissolving? It is written herein that Allah is Gracious and Merciful, and that there is no God but Him! This was and is my Faith which I testified to everyone! It is abominable to deprive yourselves of this Food, and fill your Souls with Pride!
O you who are Stubborn and Hard-headed! I have told you this before and will tell you again, for the constant dropping of water wears away the hardest stone: ‘Now let this be your Book wherein to study Paradise!’ ….. Woe unto him who shall deny the Revelations of the Lord! The ones who slander His Anointed One, are followers in the Way of Death. Show respect and be taught; he is Inspired by Allah, Who Unfolds to him the things that men see not!
Listen to what he says, and find Rest within the Arms of Allah! Unto every nation is a fixed term, and for every period is a Book! Allah does blot out or confirms what He pleases. Truly he must follow me! Do you not understand? Come to that which Allah has revealed, and to the Messenger, and do not be Ungrateful. Do you think that I should show myself jealous? For this purpose I came to this hour! It is entirely necessary for you to deny your own judgment and follow him, and not say: ‘Why does he forbid and command?’ ….. He teaches not as do the Scribes, but as a man who knows, and has Authority to speak from Allah, Who also caused me to speak! I tell you, whatever the Messenger gives you accept it, and whatever he forbids you, forbear it! Thus Allah Wills and Commands!”
(The Sacred Treasury, The Beasts Of The Field)
www.sacredtreasury.net/the-beasts-of-the-field
Allahu Akhbar 🤲🏼
Yeshua Akhbar.
Jesus is LORD! Allah is a phony of the Muslim imagination and he is an idol
I just opened the translation and in Allah Akhbar it translated as Allah Akhbar but in Yeshua it translated Yeshua Newspaper
Please brother talk about the kidnapping of Muslim children from their parents in Sweden, Germany, Italy, Canada and some other countries. These acts are done by a corrupted organization in Sweden (The Social organization) and the kids are taken from their parents by force and subjected to sexual assault, labor, etc. This is such an important topic to discuss and raise awareness of. PLS like this post to bring attention and hopefully he'll see it!
Sweden government is islamophobia
They don't want Muslim parents to raise Muslim children. That is why they taking the kids from Muslim parents. Somalian and Syrian and Yemen
Is there evidence for this claim? I live in germany and never heard about that.
@@men264 Search for "Sweden Stealing Kids from Muslim Parents??"
@@men264 Look up Daniel Haqiqajou
Pls provide evidence if any
I feel the moderator has failed to discharge his duties as James White always goes off topics.
James smoked Adnan Rashid.
Destroyed him.
@@MU-we8hz how dr james white destryoed adnan & he couldn't answer one question from adnan , how the christians accept a doctrine of trinity from the early church father even if they are considered as heretecis today .
@@iliaschannel3646 because, as Bart Ehrman would say, the Trinity is found in the Bible and the doctorine of the Trinity is not based on one single verse.
@@MU-we8hz that's right you tell him but wait the father being the only God is also found in many verses
@@iliaschannel3646 now you understand why they believe in the concept of trinity. They simply just make things up! And now apparently Adnan got smoked and M U realised it but no one else.
is it only me who feels like James White uses ridicule to distract the audience and from answering questions directly?
Yes it's only you. James White is one of the most respectful debaters there is.
@@matthewn2559 lols, then you didn't see the debate about the preservation of Quran between him and Adnan. Adnan tried to make his points clear when the debate got heated but james started saying, "Adnan you can't even read those notes, let alone understand it," and in the debate about bible he began bragging in the middle of the debate, "I have been talking about these concepts for years, teaching them to students and writing famous books about it." Adnan never starts bragging, "Look all these people who admit I am a historian, look at my degrees in history."
@@vol94
Throughout this debate Dr. White uses biblical sources and Adnan used non biblical sources. And this is what Muslim apologists have to resort to as the Scripture proves Adnan wrong.
@@matthewn2559 biblical sources in itself is very confusing to prove the trinity
@@faizanjuanidi1103 Its actually very simple. It takes 5 steps:
1. There is only one God: James 2:19
2. God is one: Deuteronomy 6:4
3. The Father is God: 1 Corinthians 1:3
4. The Son is God: 2 Peter 1:1
5. The Holy Spirit is God: Acts 5:3-4
James has changed and lied about Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13:32 in 1:09:44 when he said (No MAN knows the day or the hour). when the actual verse is (No ONE knows the day or the hour).
Masha allah may allah reward u and increase your ilm insha allah
Capitalize A in Allah as it denotes respect in english!
Adnan Rashid always nice to see you're debate
Brother Adnan has been blessed with such a good demeanor. May Allah raise him in rank among the believers, amin.
Adnan Rashid The Legend
Brother Adnan.You're great. May Almighty always with you.InShaAllah. Aamiin
Why do we have to read it “carefully” James if the salvation of an average person depends upon it ! It should be crystal clear and repeated several times
Nailed it
That's what i think , the most important things must be clear and insisted
because it is ancient literature and Koine Greek?
Read with face value and when some corrects you ,dont be surprised
True. Allah is not the author of confusion
ALHUMDULILLAH Muslim ☝
LA ILAHA IL ALLAH MUHAMMAD UR RASUL ALLAH
SAW
Jazakallah Adnan Bhai... Congratulations for saying the Haq...
As salaam alaikum. Wow! Both of those men are well read, in there field of study. Listening to this lecture was truly a learning experience.
May Allah reward those gentleman for their sincerity.
Adnan bhai, this debate, was your very first introduction to me...
What makes James special is he always pretend to be psychological superier but he feils to address the issues
Jazakallah khair adnaan, great work your doing.
James waffles alot even though he is respectful
Waffle good to eat but not to debate..
James waffles 24/7 BUT is extremely respectable. James is lying to himself because he damn well knows the trinity is NOT supported by the Bible.
Since, JW is nice/respectful...Muslims will continue to engage with James. Guidance is from Allah alone. May Allah swt guide JW.امين
May Allah bestow his grace on Adnan Rashid....... very nice debate
ameen
Alhdulillah.
May Allah reward both of you and guide James to the right path.
Further thanks to Adnam for telling James the truth.
in my humble opinion James not only failed to stay on the topic at hand but also failed to produce evidence-based from the bible of the Trinity. Instead he went almost into preacher mode which a lot of these debates turn into by the Christian brother(s). It turns into passive insults and switches of subjects by the christian brother(s) while the Muslim(s) remains due course.
I would love to watch and or hear an honest debate about the topic (Trinity) without hitting a folk on the road (meaning no changing of the topic)
Btw, great job to the Muslim brother. You tried your best to maintain due course but obviously you was forced into a folk in the road.
With that said, you're clearly the winner of this debate. The topic was "proof of the Trinity" and your opponent failed to do so.
well said ❤
😊😊😊😊😊😊
in a nutshell, james just said: trust me bro.
This debate took place 5 years ago, just so you all know.
It's time to back at the public debates again
Hope to yo see u back brother insaallah
Yeah because this was actually from 5 years ago
@@celestialknight2339 did something change in the Bible or the Qur'an from 5 years ago ?
These types of debate will go on forever until the end of time.
لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله
Brother Adnan.. Ma sha Allah.. Nicely delivered. Wallahi i love you for the sake of Allahm may Allah reward you, Ameen
For the sale of Allahm ?
For the sake of Allah
Fix it may Allah bless you
⚔️🔥MashaaaaAllah Adnan🔥⚔️
🎖🏆🎖I respect James White and the like of him. Thanks for such a wonderful debate
How can you respect someone who lies about God (Allah) ?
Adnan is so specific to the topic, however James makes a U-TURN...
Brother, dont all christians do that? :)
@@TheArifovski No doubt they do….
JAMES was right. He said the majority of Muslims will not hear his words. There was no U turning.
Awesome Adnan...
Why do the the trinitarians quote what people thought of Jesus, and reject what Jesus himself was quoted as saying?
Exactly , they completely ignore the elephant in the room.
Dr James said he cannot pick and choose verse from the Bible
Mark 12:29
[29]“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
And yet he ignored that one , even though Jesus himself said it is the most important teaching of The Gospel .
There is absolutely no Trinity in that verse.
Because that is how the doctrin is based upon. That's why it's called "doctrin". Their argument is always based on other people interpretation of Isa, misinterpretetion and deception. None of them dare to based their argument on what Isa himself said. Their bible is full of other people's account and changed by their own priest and scholars. It is very true that Qur'an said it's not their eyes that are blind, it is their heart that are blind.
I know right , it's very unfortunate yet annoying at the same time , how can they so deluded from the truth , they were commanded to worship none but one God , but they worship Isa a.s instead.
They don't even know who the holy spirit was & they worship him as god can you imagine.
May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!
Muhammad was never a prophet of GOD.
Al lah is Pagan moon God
Al Lat is Pagan
Al Uzza is Pagan
Manat is Pagan
Muhammad accepted Pagan
Muslims accept Pagan
Peace be unto all the misguided
Only thru JESUS CHRIST can you walk the path towards the Kingdom of Heaven.
Amen
JEWISH RABBI "ISLAM RELIGION OF FUTURE"
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@@thepilgrim1581 "never a prophet of GOD." - Who is prophet after Jesus in Jon 1:21 & comforter? Solomon songs 5:16 - He is MUHAMMAD-im (see hebrew)
Al lah moon god - It's Allah, 1 word God of Jesus, not like BC pagan trinity divided sun "God" Also Arabic bible says Allah! Muslims reject paganism oh liar!
@@thepilgrim1581 Jon 17:3. Eternal life: to know You, Only true God, & Jesus Christ, you sent. 4. I finish my work. - Jesus is separate from God, & work's done praying for final Prophet, prior crucifiction, so Islam's is Jesus's good news!
Isiah 43 :10 - No god formed before nor after me. Hosea 11:9 - God is not a Man
Mark 3 :35 in Aramaic - my believers are Mushlem.
Jon 5 : 30 - I myself can do nothing - like la hawla wala kuwatta illah billah!
John 14 :28 - Father is greater then I (no co-equal trinity)
Job 25 :4 says God isn't from the womb...
View Quran 39 :52 on repenting! Islam honors the Creator & is just, Allah doesn't need sacrifice to forgive, & Jesus in mathew 12 :7 - God prefers Mercy not sacrifice & in Mathew 5 follow law. Paul in hebrews 9 says God needs a sacrifice & in romans 10 :3 removes law. contradicting Jesus & all Prophets... *
@@thepilgrim1581 your bible verses prove Islam is true so your run!
Thanks, you show Islam is consistent truth in bible & pauline christians in denial!
Whats so funny is james never answered one question with clarity!
Dr white never stick to the topic let’s hope he does it this time .
Great debate
Masya allah, br Adnan is marvelous. Why James in 1st and 2nd session does not just give verses or passages to support and substantiate trinity. Even br Adnan not questioning the divinity of Jesus, just want James to show VERSES or PASSAGES. niil
Alhamdulillah Allah give guidance to me into Islam
?? James gives verses in his 2nd session. Did you miss this?
@Mike Hutton
You mean James EVADES questions with slick retorts and not sticking to the subject. He cried about Muslims not treating the Bible like they treat the Quran. And how Bible Scholars are not Christians and presenting the Bible in an unfavorable light. And then stretched the meaning of Bible Verses to try and present them as representing the Trinity when they weren't.
I now this is not the subject but I've been asking this question to Christians without a satisfactory answer, maybe you might have one.
WHY did Jesus LIE to Pilate?
@@Toronado2 I don't think James "cried" about Muslims not treating the Bible like they treat the Qur'an. He merely pointed out this it was hypocritical, not to say self-delusional. Which it is.
The Bible, read as a whole, taken at face value and in context, results in orthodox Christian teaching on Jesus and God. This isn't just my opinion, but is that of notable unitarian Dr. George Ellis of Harvard Divinity school: "Fifty years of study, thought and reading given largely to the Bible and to the literature which peculiarly relates to it, have brought me to this conclusion, that the book - taken with the especial divine quality and character claimed for it, and so extensively assigned to it, as inspired and infallible as a whole, and in all its contents-is an Orthodox book. It yields what is called the Orthodox creed. The vast majority of its readers, following its letter, its obvious sense, its natural meaning, and yielding to the impression which some of its emphatic texts make upon them, find in it Orthodoxy." (lecture to Boston Unitarian club, Nov 1882).
More tellingly he adds: "Only that kind of ingenious, special, discriminative, and in candor I must add, forced treatment, which it receives from us liberals can make the book teach anything but Orthodoxy."
You have to stretch, cherry-pick, distort, or just plain ignore passages in the Bible if you are to contend that it teaches that Jesus is not God. Which is exactly the point James White is making.
If you like I can provide plenty of information which would show the Qur'an in distinctly less than favourable light. But I'm guessing that wouldn't achieve much at this stage.
You will have to be more specific about Jesus "lying" to Pilate. Are you referring to John 19:11?
@@mikehutton3937
It seems you must be a member of this Harvard Unitarian Universalist Church. Which means that you don't even have a Uniform Theological Faith. As long as someone says they Believe in Jesus, such as Muslims do then we can be a part of this same Church with our ideas of Jesus NOT being God. I'm sure that they will not change their open door policy just so they can keep Muslims out. And you do know how Muslims will be interjecting every time their Preaching goes contrary to Muslim Beliefs.
Well let's see if Your Bible does teach "other" than what He and you claim it does. Where to start? I guess since I brought up that Jesus LIED to Pilate, we can start there. However i have no idea HOW Jesus could have Lied to Pilate in Verse John 19:11 , Would you care to explain it to me?
@@Toronado2 Not sure you understood me correctly. I quoted a leading unitarian who admitted that the Bible teaches Trinitarian doctrine. Not just that, he admits that in order to make it do otherwise you have to resort to devious methods.
I could not be a Unitarian if I tried. Not and stay true to what the Bible says.
Why do you think Jesus lied to Pilate?
Thank you Jame White for explaining Christ so well!
Only one true living God amen!
I'm Muslim but I must admit James is a knowledgeable and a good respectful person 😊
Masha Allah brother Adnan ❤
James preaching when it must be debating... Adnan teaching because no engagement from the oponen...truth always with evidence... believe without evidence is a blind believe...
Mash'Allah brother Adnan, I have never seen a such powerful combination of knowledge and rhétoric that leave all the protagonists on the ground.
MashaAllah! Thoroughly enjoyed listening to you, as always my dear brother ❤️
Great debate on both parties a lot of respect ❤ ❤
Masha-Allah Br Adnan Stated *FACTS* and James made *EXCUSES!!*
“It’s not the eyes which is blind but the heart!” The more you explain to people like James White; the more they close their eyes to believe the truth and follow the truth!
❤❤❤❤ keep going my brother Allah bless you
Me: Just concisely, yes or no. Was there any church fathers who believed in the trinity exactly as the concept is today?
Chatgpt: No.
James make a convincing argument… until it is revealed the Bible was written over the course of hundreds of years and had hundreds and perhaps thousands of scribes who often omitted or added items to the scriptures.
Why the third khalifa burned the Quran
@@johncena-cd9kr
Before he compiled it, there was a committee, whereby memorises of the entire Quran witnessed it, those people met the prophet and memorised it from him, as well as they bought papers, leafs, bones where Quran was written on and standardised it in uthmanic writing style in order whereby the ahruf & Qirat are accessible.
Everything we have we can trace it back to the prophet in authentic chain of narration
@@johncena-cd9kr oh come on, no muslim ever burned the Quran. If you are asking such a big question on such a big forum, please, at least read something before asking. Don't embarrass yourself.
James White made a convincing argument? Did we watch the same video? As far as I can recall, Adnan had only a single question: "in the entire bible, where is the concept of the trinity that White believes in (three co-equal, co-eternal persons) espoused?". White never answered the question. Aside from repeatedly quoting verses which he interpreted to mean ascribing divinity to the son and the holy spirit, he did almost nothing else. But that is not answering the question, is it? Even if we would grant him that those verses mean what he wants them to mean, it still leaves a gaping hole: "the relationship between them is not defined". It could be surbodinatist or of some other type. Adnan was clever enough to push James onhow he could scripturally prove equality between the father and the holy spirit. James failed to. To me, the debate was done when Adnan claimed and somehow managed to prove that no one before the Nicea thought of trinity as White believes it today. Again, from White, it was only more quote from scripture and an attempt to interprete them.
If James were making a presentation at some Sunday school, I would say he did a good job. Unfortunately, this was not Sunday school. Being eloquent and employing superb rhetoric does not replace sound argumentation in a debate.
Peace
@@AbdulmuminA
The “convincing argument” part was supposed to facetious.
I guess you missed the joke.
I'm a devout Christian and LOVE seeing to great man defend their own faiths in a civil and loving way.
Can you try studying Al Quran
Mark 12:29 NIV
[29]“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
If you don't believe in Islam , in the prophet Muhammad SAW or in the Quran , at the very least believe in Jesus .
He said OUR God , so he himself has a God , can God have a God ? No , the only answer is No , so please listen to him , it is the most important commandment according to Jesus himself.
What Christian even mean if you don't listen to Jesus.
Lord Jesus save Adnan Rashid and do not let him go to hell forever for his sins (John 8:24, John 14:6). Good job, Dr. James White!!
Your lord didn't know the hour 😂😂
@@Ibrahimelamin. Yes he did.
@@alihoussney7870 where? Provide your reference, am up for a debate with you
But he said he didn't @@alihoussney7870
@@alihoussney7870then you are indirectly telling us he lied or
Masha’Allah! Allah bless you brother. Baraka Allahu fik Akhi
Danke ♥
Mr. White said "final and complete revelation to mankind" about the gospels. But do these words of Jesus contradict those ideas as recorded in the gospels?
1) I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. But when he, the spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth.
2) I am only sent not but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Yeah, the Holy Spirit did come in Acts 2, and Jesus did His ministry in Israel
@@obamatime1634
The supposed one that came in Acts did never guide into ALL TRUTH and Jesus did his ministry ONLY for Israelites. Even his instructions to his disciples were *Don't ever go to Samaritans and other people, but go ONLY to Israelites* Remember his adress HEAR O ISREAL..
@@shafeequeahmed4272 He said only to go to the Israelites during His ministry... After He rose from the dead He said to go to all nations (Matt 28:19) and said His message would be preached to the whole world (Matt 24:14, Mk 13:10)
And what truth did the Holy Spirit not guide people into? You claim He didn't guide them into ALL truth, so what do you believe He didn't say?
@@obamatime1634Pls who was that person who sent Jesus your god to lost sheep of Israelite.? Father, Son or holy spirit? In that verse, he didn't tell us who sent him. Who was that only true God that sent Jesus where he was telling the Israelites you are the only true God and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.
لا اله الا الله والمسيح والروح القدس عباد ورسل الله.
John 17:3.
3. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
Tanu waa nolosha weligeed ah inay ku gartaan, adoo ah Ilaaha runta ah oo keliya, iyo inay gartaan Ciise Masiix, kii aad soo dirtay.
note: none is worthy of worship except the only truth and one God Allah. and Muhammed is the final truth messenger
masha allah you did well nah great jasaka allah kheyran. brothers/sisters let us share it
John 17:5 fathervglorify your son son may glorify you the glory with you together before the world was mean god golrify your word word may gloryfy you the glory with you together before the world was same as john 1:1
لا إِله إِلَّا الله محمد رسول الله علي ولي الله
@Mohammad read john 17:3 and john,1:1
@Mohammadjesus gabe his glory to his diciples but jesus had the glory because the world was
Most Christians, like James White here, disregard the explicit words in verses or the lack thereof and try to force their own views. After minutes of preach-like speeches, they end up reaching conclusions that are so distant and detached from the words in the verses to the point that the audience actually forgets what the verse was actually talking about. They do it to their Bible and to the Quran as well. Clearly, verse 5:116 is not telling what the trinity is, rather, the verse tells about events to come where Jesus will deny he had ever taught people to worship him or his mother. Yet, James White insists the verse is explaining the trinity despite the lack of explicit words, just because he is so desperate for anything to present as an argument.
1:38:00 Masha-Allah Br Adnan 🎤 🎤 🎤
The true religion from God has never changed from day 1 : that there is God , that He is one without a second , that He alone can be worshipped and sought help from and that one day we will return to Him for accounting
This is the true religion which has never changed
All the different religions we see today are just man made innovations
With all due respect but the quran have many contradictions and false statements.
@@Cobra-gl7orignorant statement
@@KehindeShodehinde Do you believe Stars Of Heaven are missiles to shoot down devil's as the Quran claims? lol
@@Cobra-gl7or stars of heaven?,
"And we have sought to reach the heaven but found it filled with powerful guards and burning flames
And we used to sit therein in position for hearing but whoever listens now will found a burning flame lying in wait for him
And we do not know therefore whether evil is intended for those on earth or whatever their lord intends for them a right course Q 72 vs 8,9 and 10, This is surah jinn where Allah revealed to prophet Mohammed pbuh what the jinns do, they try to eavesdrop and Allah punish them with missiles, how does it say stars?
The problem with Christianity is that they bring so many doctrines that are simply not present in the Bible, for example no where in the Bible does it say that son, Holy Spirit and the father are ONE, no where in the Bible it says that the son being a human is limited but out of the human body is unlimited but after son death he gained the body back again and became all knowing and we can literally go on with so many doctrines that cannot be backed up by the Bible. Then you have some doctrines contradicting the old testament, such as the original sin. Also the example that was shown by James White of the Al Quran being different, firstly he never verified the meaning of what was added and he himself cannot read Arabic, plus yes human being do mistakes when writing the Al Quran, however Muslims are able to recognise that mistake straight away due to many have memorised the Al Quran and can also compare it to the many first generation of Al Quran written during the time of Muhammad (SAW) or Uthman (RA), which then Muslims are able to scrap or remove that Al Quran that has that mistake, hence you cannot find that mistake in the Al Quran after or before that period of that Al Quran that has the mistake. The Christians have firstly got the problem with discovering corruption made in the Bible when comparing from the 4th century scripture, which the corruption was discovered in the 15th century some even in the 18th century, and then Christians cannot be sure what further corruption there is in the Bible since they don't have any manuscript before the 4th century, while Muslims have manuscript from the time of Muhammad may peace be upon him that is exactly the same as the Al Quran that we have now. Also the Christians are not able to show that the Bible is word of God since the authors were anonymous and written many years after Jesus and in a language that Jesus never spoke in. Muslims know that the Al Quran came directly from Muhammad may peace be upon him mouth from historical evidences, hence Muslims just need to verify that Muhammad may peace be upon him was telling the truth that these are the words of God send by God the Almighty, which Muslims have managed to prove that through prophecies that came true, through miracles of the Al Quran and the fact that Muhammad (SAW) preached what all prophets preached, and most importantly we have the history of the life of Muhammad (SAW) to test whether Muhammad (SAW) was telling the truth. While Christianity cannot verify or proof whether the anonymous authors were telling the truth or were they just writing fiction of the Bible, and where they got their sources from, plus which Church father (which none believed in the Trinity) was correct when each Church father accepted or rejected different Gospels.
The Word of God...
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
1 John 5:7 KJV
God bless.
Forged verses.
@Mohammad Yes I was raised Christian just reverted to Islam last year in may.
@Mohammad for Allah to be a true God, pls where is the verse that shows he removed his leg from hell?
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "The people will be thrown into the (Hell) Fire and it will say: "Are there any more (to come)?' (50.30) till Allah puts His Foot over it and it will say, 'Qati! Qati! (Enough Enough!)'"
حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ أَبِي الأَسْوَدِ، حَدَّثَنَا حَرَمِيٌّ، حَدَّثَنَا شُعْبَةُ، عَنْ قَتَادَةَ، عَنْ أَنَسٍ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " يُلْقَى فِي النَّارِ وَتَقُولُ هَلْ مِنْ مَزِيدٍ. حَتَّى يَضَعَ قَدَمَهُ فَتَقُولُ قَطِ قَطِ ".
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 4848
In-book reference : Book 65, Hadith 369
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 371
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@@CarmenImpera This is the point Christians never wants to answer directly. It is a very simple question: Where in the Bible JESUS says that "the Father, Holy Spirit or Ghost, and himself are ONE, or Gods? What you always refer to the Authors' interpretations or sayings in the Bible. Lets make it clear again. Show us ONE single verse in the Bible JESUS says that 'I AM THE GOD, FATHER IS THE GOD, HOLY SPIRIT IS THE GOD, and WE ARE ALL EQUAL" There is nothing in the Bible and that is why Christians still debate the doctrine of Trinity after 2000 years.
God bless..
Ive seen this guy in many debates, it is sad so many years a scholar, and yet he didnt understand that the word of Allah. It is a miracle of a book. So easy to underatand for people that are not knowledgeable , and very wise for people who arw challenging it. Allah guides whoever he wills, who ever is searching for the truth Allah guides him, this guy isnt searching for the truth, he is promoting His believes. As Allah sais in the Quran : that no mater what you say to certain people they would not believe, even if they know the truth they will denie it.
Because al lah is the moon god.
@@israelisthechosen Its so sad when people are this ignorant. No knowledge nothing and still making claims like that when its the afterlife which is on the line
James White has great rhetoric, but Adnan Rashid has great facts.
I study religions for about 10 years now.And I do not agree with you.James White presented very good stuff.I'mnot a calvinist like him,but ortodox christia..but we all belive in Trinity,Bible..so study more man.God bless you!
@@zdravzivot3016Mark 12:29
[29]“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
That is the most important one according to Jesus himself, where is the Trinity ?
And he said "OUR" God , meaning he himself has a God.
God cannot have a God , simple logic.
1:44:25 that's interesting don't ask Questions just surrender .. what if i surrender my soul to the Verse that u agreed it was Fraud ... Im not surrendering my soul to emotional faith that destroyed by humen logic.
God is perfect his massage should be perfect that's why im Muslim 👌✨
This is what I just found.
"Despite the lack of detail concerning Mary in the Gospels, cultic veneration of the divine virgin and mother found within the Christian Church a new possibility of expression in the worship of Mary as the virgin mother of God, in whom was achieved the mysterious union of the divine Logos with human nature."
ماشااللہ عدنان بھائی اللہ پاک آپ کو استقامت اور جزائے خیر عطا کرے آمین
Well done brother Adnan. May Allah guide James.
ameen
Shukran brother Adnan. May Allah reward you tremendously in this world and in the next. As for the doctor, shame, never gives a clear answer, reverting to the Quran in some cases, Insha Allah, maybe he will revert to Islam some day.
Congratulations to both of you.
James white is a legend.
Legend in what? Waffling, dressing up the ugly nonsensical and blasphemous pagan idea of triune god? The more they spin the nerrative of anonymously written gospels the more insincere and deceitful they come out as.
*MR RASHID THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HELPING CHRISTIANS IN PAKISTAN*
Great invitation to islam ustadh
This was a beautiful debate.
52:46
and i'd like to say that Dr. white and his arguments FOR the trinity are significantly more advanced and knowledgeable than the arguments of the bible (if there were any...).
james white explained the trinity better than the bible did! that's something u might want to think about... :)
Deut 6.4-6, Mark 12.28-32, John 17.3, John 20.17, Rom 15.6, Rom 16.27, I Cor 8.6, II Cor 11.31, I Tim 2.5, Rev 3.2, Rev 3.12, and many other scriptures.
MashalLah. Adnan. you win the debate definitely!
Alhamduillah Adnan is very well spoken and very knowledgeable
Yes, allah just multiplied his rewards, he will get many more perennial virgins with big bosoms than others. And you too brother, as you have defended him.
@@testytruth3988
What about Solomon he have many women 700 wives and 300 concubines 🤔
@@whitesteelangle156 or the fact that Mathew 25 :1 says heaven is like 10 virgins, they are jealous Muslims are better!
@@testytruth3988 its Allah upper case A, God of Israel and Jesus.
Jesus prostrates to Allah as a Muslim like Ibrahim in Genesis 17 :3 and said my followers are Muslim/Mushlems in Aramaic. Mark 3 :35!
And Jacob copies the Kaba in genesis 28 :18!
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543you are misinterpreting the Bible. May Jesus pardon you and give you wisdom to understand the Holy scriptures.
It is so disturbing to think that one of the Core Central belief of Christianity is not unambiguously mentioned anywhere in the scriptures, like Jesus had all the time on this Earth and he didnt have enough time to firmly establish the doctrine of Trinity?? This is quiet shocking to me
The word trinity is a human approach to describe a divine reality that can be found all over scripture.
@@men264 : With respect. If that be the case, how is it that no worshiper of the one true God Jehovah - pre Christian and Jesus' time - ever knew about any three in one personality of God until the apostate RCC introduced it.
If we read the Acts of the Apostles and the other letters to the Christian Congregations, we will not find a single instance of Jesus or the holy spirit being worshipped.
Remember that Jesus told Mary AFTER God had resurrected him that he was returning to HIS GOD who was ALSO HER GOD (John 20:17).
Hope this helps.
@@tongakhan230 this is just wrong, jesus is worshiped in several places in the new testament. Just read the first few verses of john:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him; and without him was not anything made that hath been made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. There was the true light, even the light which lighteth every man, coming into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made through him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and they that were his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he the right to become children of God, even to them that believe on his name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth.
John 1:1-4, 9-14 ASV
bible.com/bible/12/jhn.1.1-14.ASV
The bible is very clear on this and the sad thing is, as soon as you show proof about this to muslims they say the bible is not trustworthy, so there is no basis for a honest talk.
@@ME.N. : This is the 21st Century. Hanging onto biased translations shows design and not any desire for the truth.
John 1:1. Logically no one can be WITH someone and also be that someone he is with. Makes no sense.
When we examine the Greek, we find that John used TWO DISTINCT FORMS for god in that one verse. Why? Obviously to show that they were NOT one and the same.
The Word was WITH God (Hon Theon) and the Word was a god (theos).
In Greek there is only the definite article (THE in English). There is NO INDEFINITE ARTICLE IN GREEK. Thus, in the absence of the definite article, the Engish A or AN is inserted before the noun.
Wikipedia QUOTES tons of translations which word it properly as 'and the Word was a god'. Meaning that he was an angel. A mighty being (Psalms 82:1,6).
Angels are called sons of God (Job 1:6).
Logically, God SENT an angel to become the human Jesus. Read Galatians 4:4.
'God SENT his son'. 'This is my son'. 'I am God's son' will now make sense to the reader.
There is no logic as yet in use in someone SENDING HIMSELF.
All things were made THROUGH this FIRSTBORN ANGELIC SON. Not BY him.
Remember God spoke to his firstborn created angelic son and said: "Let US MAKE man in OUR IMAGE" - Genesis 1:26.
Why not let us CREATE? Because this created son could only help MAKE.
As to what role Jesus played in helping God in creation of all other things is defined at Proverbs 8:22-30.
John who grew up around Jesus would write in clear unambiguous wording:
'No man has SEEN God at ANY TIME.' - 1 John 4:12,20.
Logically, unless no one ever actually saw Jesus, he certainly couldn't have been God at ANY or even SOME TIME.
Hope this helps.
@@tongakhan230 bro, the trinity is nothing what is logical in a human mind, its just what the bible states and this is what i believe. Why should god become flesh, dwell at filthy and wrong human beings and go the way of a servant? Even lay down his life for our lifes. Its nothing a human could ever understand and yet its the only thing that really makes sense.
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” declares the Lord. “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts higher than your thoughts.
Isaiah 55:8-9
Please consider that you might be wrong, its about eternity..
Jesus said to him, “I am the [only] Way [to God] and the [real] Truth and the [real] Life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
John 14:6
Well done, James White.
It takes the inspiration of the Holy Spirit to discern the passages of the bible regarding the divinity of the Trinity.
Mark 12:29
[29]“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
Where's the Trinity in that verse ? You completely ignored the most important one according to Jesus himself.
Adnan say that some of this scriptures can't be explained
Like the Father is greater than i
He doesn't understand the scriptures correctly and the meaning of them
Again he failed
So you explain it to us
Mashallah sheikh Adnan
Hallelujah, Jesus Christ is Lord. The trinity is the best doctrine that reveals to us exactly who God is and how to get salvation.
Explain. If God is one how can He be 3. And if Jesus is God. Then God died on the cross. And did God came on the Mary to impregnate her and to give birth to God. Very very logical bro
@@mohinkhan951 God is one in being but 3 in persons. (Father, Son and Holy Spirit). You need now to know the difference between a Being and a person. I hope you understand now. Jesus is God of course. The word of God is God. Jesus is the word of God.
You know well that God sent his Holy Spirit on Mary and Jesus was born. God is able to anything and there’s nothing he cannot do.
@@changingmentality626 : The answer is in what one writes.
God SENT his holy spirit to enable the transfer of Jesus' life force from an angel into a human form (Philippians 2:7).
If the holy spirit was God, it would state that God CAME as the holy spirit.
(Galatians 4:4) But when the full limit of the time arrived, God SENT HIS SON, who was born of a woman and who was under law,
God can only SEND an angel as there are only angels WITH him in heaven.
Paul shows that Jesus was CHOSEN from among the angels.
'To which of the angels did God say....' - Hebrews 1:5,13.
Now we can understand why God identifies Jesus as his SON (Matthew 3:17). Never as HIMSELF.
Hope this is helpful.
@Mohammad the Holy Spirit is God. You also believe that God is Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the third person in the Trinity of God( God Father, Son and Holy Spirit)
You must admit that Jesus was a Devine Being. He was God and also acted as a human in order to teach humans how to follow God.
@@changingmentality626 anything ? Can God cease to exist ? Can God condemn Himself to hell ? God can do anything is problematic statement.
Wonderful Rashid , I am a follower of Jesus Christ and The Bible is Explicitly Clear. God is one and Jesus Christ is our mediator.
Well done James white..... I like Adnan Rashid he is a good person .
that cristian bow-tie guy -just hot air, no argument or evidence at all.
I fail to see how an entire theology can be built around the notion that you have carte blanche to commit any sin, without fear of divine punishment, so long as you accept that Jesus died on the cross for your sins. Hitler accepted Jesus, so will he escape divine accountability for his well-known crimes against humanity?
This is clearly indicating that you do not understand or have read through the bible to a good degree. Read Matthew 7:21-23 James 2:14-19 Matthew 19:17 etc..
@@titus7872 If a Christian man who accepts Jesus rapes a Hindu girl and kills her, which of them will end up in heaven?
@@cafeespresso99 have you read the verses I gave you for your foolish comment above?
@@titus7872 why don’t you answer the question? If Jesus died for your sins, doesn’t that mean that you are not accountable for them?
@@cafeespresso99 and I will repeat again if you read those verses I gave you ealier you wouldn’t be asking such foolish questions. May Jesus help you.
Wow James absolutely won, not even a close debate.
Let me guess, you're a trinitarian Christian.
What ever I am my observation was based on listening to both sides of the debate and weighing up which evidence is most likely true. Dr White's arguments were much more clear, evidence based and convincing. Adnan kept trying to attack different aspects of the Bible, which was not the debate, and has been done over and over again, with no success.And what is your belief?@@AlexXBT97
James white might be a great preacher but his knowledge of own books really poor🤣
I'm praying for you too Adnan! :)
“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.”
Titus 2:11-14 KJV
Hope you come out of the path of Anti-Christ
@@shorabhossain257
Muhammad was the
Anti Christ.
No one was more Anti Christ than Muhammad himself.
GOD punished Muhammad severely.
Now ask me to prove it.
@@thepilgrim1581 if Muhammad (PBUH) was anti-christ he would never praised Jesus(PBUH).
@@shorabhossain257
You have been misguided brother.
He never praised JESUS.
He insulted JESUS and GOD punished him.
Would you like me to prove it?
@@thepilgrim1581 You have been misguided and mistaught your Bible which itself is constructed
Thank goodness Adnan finally put his foot down on the questions not related to the topic. Mr. White prefers to compare the Qu'ran to the Bible in every debate with Brother Adnan. And again it's not related to the Divinity of the Trinity. There's no concept of that in the Qu'ran as it continually repeats that Allah is One, period. No "Mystery" to contemplate or try and explain, Alhamdulillah
Yes, for this allah just multiplied his rewards, he will get many more perennial virgins with big bosoms than others. And you too brother, as you have defended him.
Potato abdool even demon know there is one God and tremble....
God is one and Christ is His supreme manifestation.
Your prophet never seen God and Christ in his life now his followers teaching us about God and Christ. Lool
@@testytruth3988 Jealous or complaining? So, so, so jealous your eyes are green.
This is such a great debate, it shouldve spread All over... i got to know about this from shorts, please creatw more shorts...
Hey Mr .you are one of many Muslim i admire.Brilliant inteligent and love peace.
4. Luke 3:22
“And the Holy Spirit descended upon Him [Jesus] in bodily form like a dove, and a voice came out of heaven, “You are My [the Father’s] beloved Son, in You I am well-pleased.”
When faced by opposition from the authorities, Peter said
‘We must obey God rather than men! The God of our fathers raised Jesus’ (Acts 5:29-30)
The disciples prayed to God just as they were commanded by Jesus in Luke 11:2, and considered Jesus to be God’s servant.
‘they raised their voices together in prayer to God. ‘Sovereign Lord,’ they said, ‘you made the heaven and the earth and the sea, and everything in them.’ (Acts 4:24)
‘your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed.’ (Acts 4:27)
‘of Your holy servant Jesus.’ (Acts 4:30)
‘I am indeed a servant of God.’ (Quran 19:30)
The Bible says that Jesus was God’s servant
‘Behold, My servant, whom I have chosen, in whom My soul is well pleased.’ (Matt 12:18) Since Jesus is God’s servant, Jesus can not be God.
The Bible says that Jesus could not do anything by himself
‘The son can do nothing by himself; he can only do what he sees his Father doing.’ (John 5:19)
‘I can of mine own self do nothing.’ (John 5:30)
The Bible says that Jesus did not consider himself equal with God
and that God performed miracles through Jesus & Jesus was limited in what he could do:
‘But when the crowds saw this, they were awestruck, and glorified God, who had given such authority to men.’ (Matt. 9:8)
‘a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst.’ (Acts 2:22)
‘he went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.’ (Acts 10:38)
If Christ was God, the Bible would simply say that Jesus did the miracles himself without making reference to God. The fact that it was God supplying the power for the miracles shows that God is greater than Jesus.
@@abdulrahimrashid8626 Potato abdool always come with the cherry picking verses.
Your prophet never seen God and Christ in his life now his followers teaching us about God and Christ. Lool
Christ is true manifestation of almighty God.
Yes Christ claimed God but Jews never believed Him.
John 10:30"“We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
Even His desciples called Him God.
John 20:28"Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
Even His desciples worshiped Him.
Matthew 14:33"Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”
@@vickyquackk7851 dk HD when Jesus says my lord is your lord...he didn't say I'm lord problem with u dk hds r that u take people who never saw Jesus pbup words over the words of Jesus lol...cherry pick u dk ...these r the words of Jesus in ur man made book lol
@@vickyquackk7851 If Jesus was God
If Jesus was God, how could He pray to God?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 12:29 Jesus said "Here, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord." The words "our God" indicate that Jesus had a higher God over him, a stronger God than him. Jesus didn't say "Your God". He said "our God" which includes Jesus as the creation of GOD.
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 20:17 Jesus said I ascend to my God and your God? This tells us that we and Jesus have a common GOD.
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 8:28 Jesus said "I do nothing of myself"? Can't GOD do anything he wills?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 14:28 Jesus said "My Father (GOD) is greater than I"?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Luke 23:46 Jesus said "Father (GOD), into thy hands I commend my spirit"?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 19:16 Jesus said "Why call me good, there is none good but One, that is GOD"?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:36-38 Jesus said that GOD had assigned him (Jesus) work and GOD is a witness on Jesus?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:32 Jesus told his followers that they have never seen GOD at anytime nor ever heard his voice?
If Jesus was GOD, then why did he pray to his GOD in Luke 5:16?
The "God" Title:
How come Christians take the "God" (theos in Greek) title literally with Jesus in Isiah 9:6 and they don't take it literally for the rest of the prophets and people who were called Gods ?
The Prophets who were called "God" in the Bible are as follows:
Prophet Moses in Exodus 7:1
The Devil in Corinthians 4:4 (the word for God in this verse is theos in Greek, the same used for Jesus that was translated as "God")
Multiple Prophets in Psalms 82:6
King David in Psalm 45:3
Note: The only unique title given to GOD in the Bible that was not given to others at all are Jehova, GOD, and GOD LORD. "God", "Most Mighty" and "Almighty One" are titles that were given to Jesus, other Prophets and to Satan himself in the Bible.
Very Important Note: Did you know that in the languages of Arabic and Hebrew the father of the house can be called the God of the house? Jesus was the God (father or leader) of his people and their father according to Isiah 9:6. Jesus being the leader and the king, it is normal for him to be called the father of his people (Father in Isiah 9:6), and because he is their father he automatically becomes their God. My father is my God in Arabic and Hebrew.
Family of gods,satan is god,Moses is god & many more gods
Bart erhman was an excellent textaul criticism scholar. He was a fundamental chrsiatin. He would tell us not james white
Bart ehrman is not a christian, not even close
@@men264 He was a christian some years ago
@@men264 for Allah to be a true God, pls where is the verse that shows he removed his leg from hell?
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "The people will be thrown into the (Hell) Fire and it will say: "Are there any more (to come)?' (50.30) till Allah puts His Foot over it and it will say, 'Qati! Qati! (Enough Enough!)'"
حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ أَبِي الأَسْوَدِ، حَدَّثَنَا حَرَمِيٌّ، حَدَّثَنَا شُعْبَةُ، عَنْ قَتَادَةَ، عَنْ أَنَسٍ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " يُلْقَى فِي النَّارِ وَتَقُولُ هَلْ مِنْ مَزِيدٍ. حَتَّى يَضَعَ قَدَمَهُ فَتَقُولُ قَطِ قَطِ ".
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 4848
In-book reference : Book 65, Hadith 369
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 371
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@@noahwamalwa4385 im a christian, no clue where his leg is at
@@noahwamalwa4385 it Allah's foot and the moment you start imagining foot then thats not what Allah had.Allah had already talk about people like u in quran 3:7
Lovely debate مَا شَاءَ ٱللَّٰهُ
💗Ma Sha Allah 💗
this was an intellectual debate
And islam went around the world and remained in its original text
Are you not aware of textile criticism of the Quran? There are over 26 different manuscripts. So now you’re gonna have to tell me which one because the one you used now was agreed in 1926.
@@Papasquatch73ignorant statement 😢
The trinity is not biblical, but also Quran is not from God. As simple as that.
Simple as that, because *you said so* ? Are you by any change 15 or younger?
Welcome to the real world where your opinions do not matter. You either prove your claim or it is invalid and dismissed for not meeting the burden of proof, *simple as that* .
You are watching a debate, learn from it how to construct a argument and prove a claim.
Abu Dharr narrated, “Once I was with the Prophet riding a donkey on which there was a saddle or a (piece of) velvet. That was at sunset. He said to me, ‘O Abu Dharr, do you know where this (sun) sets?’ I said, ‘Allah and His Messenger know better.’ He said, ‘It sets in a spring of murky water, (then) it goes and prostrates before its Lord, the Exalted in Might and the Ever-Majestic, under the Throne. And when it is time to go out, Allah allows it to go out and thus it rises. But, when He wants to make it rise where it sets, He locks it up. The sun will then say, “O my Lord, I have a long distance to run.” Allah will say, “Rise where you have set.” That (will take place) when no (disbelieving) soul will get any good by believing then.’” (Musnad Ahmad, Hadith 21459 al-Risala ed.)🤪🤪😁😁🤣🤣
It's figurative metaphorical language you dotard 🤣
Dr James White was outstanding in this debate .
I believe you meant Dr James White
@@missyuna06 no he really did mean what he said: dr. David White
2 Timothy 2:23 Further, REJECT FOOLISH and IGNORANT DEBATES, knowing that they produce fights. 24 For a slave of the Lord does not need to fight, but needs to be gentle toward all, qualified to teach, showing restraint when wronged, 25 instructing with mildness those not favorably disposed.
The very fact that James White is engaging in these debates shows that he has no knowledge of Christianity.
@@tongakhan230 he absolutely schooled adnan, watch the debate again .
@@richsouks4902 : He may have schooled Adnan. However, it was a case of the blind trying to show the blind the path.
James starts off on the assumption that the RCC trinity theory is factual. Then he tries to twist the scriptures to fit a preconceined notion.
Jesus wouldn;t be calling himself God's son (John 10:36), and God wouldn't be identifying Jesus as his son (Matthew 3:17), if God was parading HIMSELF as his own son.
When did sons become their own fathers.
Stay with what the Bible DOES TEACH. Safer.
Hope this helps.
Torah & Ingill has been changed awefully & drastically. . 700 crores of peoples has been misguided by the priests as like as Veda & Tripitak. All they are waiting for Last & Final Prophets with the last revelation. O'' God guide them on the right path
Failed and failed...again.
Laila ha il Allah... Muhammad Rasulullah... Allahuakbar...
Everytime we are called Muhammadins i start laughing for some reason 😂😂😂
They used to worship man and Call themself by his name (christians) so they
Think We are the same
@@soohamdy8538 Christ is a title, not a last name. Christ is the English form of the Greek word, which means “Anointed One.” Messiah is the English form of the same word in Hebrew.
@@crusaderbtyf1211 Muslims also believe that Jesus was The Christ...
@@onlyparadise Jesus was not a Christ he definitely did not die on the cross,he was just a prophet of Allah and such death for a prophet on the Cross is injustice.
@@HaalandZGoat They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is the Christ , the son of Mary. Say, “Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy the *Christ*, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?” And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent. [ Quran 5:17 ]