Is Cara The New Social Media Platform For Artists?

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  • Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
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  • @wizzelhoart
    @wizzelhoart 27 дней назад +68

    I draw little pee-pees on all of my artwork. So if someone steals it to post it on any social media, I flag it and zoom in on the pee-pee and report it for nudity

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  27 дней назад +20

      hahahahah XD That's a piece of art in and of itself!

    • @LucasBright.
      @LucasBright. 27 дней назад +5

      Lol genius

    • @dlw4081
      @dlw4081 27 дней назад +2

      Hahaha!

    • @jmicheledonohue7384
      @jmicheledonohue7384 27 дней назад +2

      😂🤣 clever

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  27 дней назад +13

      Make a video about this. Make it very short and open with this statement. Title in the lines of "my solution to AI art theft" or something along those lines.
      No here's one better. "AI stole my art (& How I solved it)"

  • @bryancoombesart
    @bryancoombesart 27 дней назад +26

    What is good, is that we see the attempt for another platform to shake up Facebook/IG. Thanks for the update!

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  27 дней назад +4

      good point indeed. If nobody tries nobody will ever know.

  • @DK-jg5vk
    @DK-jg5vk 26 дней назад +7

    It looks kind of like Cara specializes in digital art. Only time will tell if it is a viable platform for painters and sculpters. But lets keep an eye on Cara.

  • @Berynnice
    @Berynnice 26 дней назад +8

    This is what another thing that I looooooooove from Ketels, he always keeps up updated. Thank you for this info, dude.

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад

      Always happy to help Berynnice

  • @Hunter-de3dx
    @Hunter-de3dx 15 дней назад

    Really appreciate these short critiques on social media platforms.

  • @sadiemakesmesmile
    @sadiemakesmesmile 26 дней назад +7

    As someone with chronic pain, I really appreciated your definition of Pain = "spending a lot of time and getting nothing in return" ... sounds very familiar.

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад +3

      Hope you'll be doing better soon

  • @HAVOCLEI
    @HAVOCLEI 27 дней назад +14

    People suggest not to completely leave instagram/twitter/ect, but since there is no positive achievement I am able to reach since months, I will completely sweep off everything. And I don't even wanna look back. Tired of people monkey copying memes. What would I lose? Watching another nasty story told by the same cat memes over and over again?

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  27 дней назад

      hahahah XD good point

    • @anony5021
      @anony5021 26 дней назад +1

      Stopped posting there. Bunch of African schemers pretending to be NFT buyers

  • @judilynn9569
    @judilynn9569 19 дней назад +1

    Might I mention that Damien Hurst did NOT invent spin painting? We used to do them at amusement parks back in the 60s and 70s. There would always be a spin paint concession. It wasn't stolen from Hurst. He got the idea from doing them as a kid like the rest of us.

  • @LillenArt2
    @LillenArt2 26 дней назад +4

    I think an important thing to know about Cara is that it's geared towards people who want an ArtStation without the AI, and who like Art Twitter. ArtStation catered towards people who work in the art entertainment industry (concept art, vfx, games, 3d, illustration, designers, animators, etc.) It's less fine art oriented, though I think it can work well as a portfolio for any artist.

  • @patriciamedaris8552
    @patriciamedaris8552 27 дней назад

    Thank you! Your information is golden. Im signing up for it today ❤

  • @akirathedog777
    @akirathedog777 8 дней назад

    Thanks for the tip man!
    Ill be fishing in Cara for images to train my LLM with, instagram is filled with trash but Cara makes it so much easier to AI people by putting all art together in one place.
    Great find! Ive downlaoded like 30 original images already, all thanks to you cheers man

  • @CreativeFiddler
    @CreativeFiddler 27 дней назад +5

    I don't see cara as a social media tbh, think of it as an artstation alternative? It's a space for just artists which is nice, buuuut I don't see it yielding commission opportunities since everyone on there is an artist lol. The site looks nice enough, so I'll just let my gallery live on there

  • @NnaemekaAmamasi
    @NnaemekaAmamasi 26 дней назад

    Nice one Dries...Nice one...!

  • @kaminos
    @kaminos 26 дней назад +4

    Of cource i don't know where Cara will end up in the future or the sincerity of their intentions but on the other hand i think that you should have done at least a simple background check before this video. It seems you have a lot of questions about Cara.. and many of them you can find very easy. For example, the founder of Cara is Jingna zhang an artist (photographer). She says that it's a passion project and self funded by her. Also, now its intergrated with glaze so that your art gets an invisible "mark" so that the AI training models will not be able to process it and confuse them. As a result your art is not being stolen by any of the A.I. (for now at least). If it's true & sincere i think its an awesome initiative that we - artists - can stand by it. It costs us nothing to support it with our art.. my opinion now is that it deserves a chance. Anyway, don't get me wrong, i like and quite often find value in your videos but i think this video is poorly made. I hope i'm wrong. My two cents.

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад

      You're right. I literally put 0 minutes of preparation in this one and the plan is to continue to make both types of videos. Videos with days of preparation as well as videos without any preparation like this one.
      Thanks for your comment, lots of value!

  • @claudianewmanart
    @claudianewmanart 26 дней назад +3

    I think it is a different style of platform and it won't replace Instagram. In the end there are just artist hanging out with other artist. Like devianart, and maybe it will become much more like artstation, where not much of traditional art can be found.
    And what do we know where our artwork will go there. Just object the use of your images for AI purposes on Instagram and on facebook. You got the link under your settings.

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад +1

      Hard to replace IG. We'll see how it goes

  • @EtherealN0ir
    @EtherealN0ir День назад

    I feel like Cara is a wonderful platform to have *alongside* platforms like insta, youtube, twitter, etc. because having a community of other artists to engage with is super important, and while yes you can have that elsewhere, Cara is made *for* artists so it feels alot more welcoming to both beginner artists and experienced artists who are just looking for a community of artists to engage with.
    I don't have much of an opinion on the professional side of things with Cara solely because of how new it is, but I will say I do like the "Jobs" forum because it at least feels like they care about artists.
    I don't think Cara can fully replace instagram, at least right now, despite that I love the idea of it as a platform and I do want to see it thrive, but truthfully I feel like it's best to post there alongside all of your other platforms instead of abandoning everywhere else like I've seen some artists do
    Again, I do want to see Cara thrive! I feel like your video on it was really good of course and I do agree with most of the points you made about the app. I wanted to add though I feel like if Cara gets enough financial support from the community it could genuinely be a better alternative to instagram. As well as maybe making it so non-artists/art enjoyers feel more welcome on the app because this would (in my opinion) make Cara significantly more viable for those seeking a more professional platform primarily.
    Once again, I think this is a good video on the subject!

  • @Super8888Baby
    @Super8888Baby 26 дней назад +3

    If people support Cara financially, it will be successful. If you don’t want to be the product like on meta, you need to pay the platform.

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад

      If you don't want to be the product you need to sell the product!

  • @mystic7zine
    @mystic7zine 26 дней назад +2

    I joined up today at cara. So far it looks promising. Thanks for the recommendation.

  • @KJensenStudio
    @KJensenStudio 27 дней назад +3

    Thanks for addressing Cara, Dries! I was wondering about it, and whether it was another merger of giants, where it ends up being yet another poxy face of facebook.

  • @hmmmmidk
    @hmmmmidk 26 дней назад

    thank you

  • @bearoyay
    @bearoyay 26 дней назад +2

    It looks like its going for Artstations thing.
    Tbh I would like to see more sites like art station with different communities. Imagine if you had an art station just for physical landscape painters or character designers or even visual development artists. Having more niche communities is what these mega social media sites really lack by nature.

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад

      Niche communities embedded in the site sounds like something for sure

  • @banoAI
    @banoAI 7 дней назад

    When was it created ?

  • @Sfhjgds
    @Sfhjgds 20 дней назад

    It won't last very long, because there are just a few people behind it. But definitely an inspiration, a very comfortable place to look just on what you are interested in (artworks) with a cozy and calm atmosphere

  • @TheReneex
    @TheReneex 27 дней назад +2

    I was a little skeptical about posting my art on Instagram. I saw many artist's original work, plagiarized by suspicious, Chinese e-commerce platforms. Thanks for informing us.

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад

      Yeah the plagiarism is real

  • @PhilipDunnArt
    @PhilipDunnArt 27 дней назад +2

    Dries, you've done posts on how art is social before (social as in "get to know the artist/get access" as opposed to "social networking". . . This counterfeiting or stealing thing seems to be a non-issue in that context. If the artist curates his group of collectors/followers, they will buy originals and support the efforts with other merch/prints purchases. They'll want to attend her/his shows, talk philosophy, share stories, etc. It's a thang.

  • @mystic7zine
    @mystic7zine 26 дней назад

    It does have a lot of digital B's but it could work out but you never know. But IG cut me feed and cut my reach so I started to think about jumping as many others are. Who knows where we will end up.

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад +1

      It has a bit too much of the digital vibe atm we'll see how it transforms

    • @mystic7zine
      @mystic7zine 25 дней назад

      ​@@driesketelsyeah, I found out they only show the ai trash original stuff gets no views. So I bailed out of there. Sometimes new platforms give lots of views early on so it was worth a few posts to check it out. But it sucks. Love to find a new platform but this is not the one

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  25 дней назад +1

      I'll be on the horizon to see if there are any other promising platforms. atm I'm also not really convinced of cara

  • @AezlyndWanderin
    @AezlyndWanderin 13 дней назад

    So I looked at Cara and even signed up for it. Here are my thoughts
    1) when I first joined there was lots of digital art. Now there seems to be more physical art being posted.
    2) when I first joined there was mostly anime fan art. Now that seems to have died down a bit.
    3) when I first joined there were lots of digital fan art that looks suspiciously identical to frames from the actual anime TV shows they were derived from but claiming to be the work of the poster. Now I’m not finding any (yet probably) and I’m wondering in Cara silently removed them or sent messages to the posters and had them remove them. On this particular note; I don’t think that any one who plagiarizes/forges art from other people has any right to be complaining about an AI bot stealing ‘their’ artwork. Now the rest of us, who aren’t fraudsters and plagiarists, have every right to be furious about both them and about AI stealing our artwork.
    4) As their TOS points out nothing is foolproof and it’s up to the artist to take precautions themself.

  • @annaarty4656
    @annaarty4656 27 дней назад +2

    Hm, if you would make a deeper research you would see that on Cara’s insta page it says that they are a platform for an entertainment industry artist. So they rather compete with the Artstation site, that began to involve in ai as well.
    And digital artist are those that freaking out of the ai thing. So it’s natural there are more digital artists, beginners that are trying to get into the concept art & illustration jobs. Those youngsters copy each other for training as well heh. And professionals that supports the whole thing (that do not need any new clients). So it all is mimicking artstation a lot.
    I find it very nice though except one thing is that there are no ordinary people, as my clients yet… that’s a big minus, but I’ll support that thing and others will come, if they as a company figure out their business and direction well.

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад +1

      Glad you did the research for us. Have a great weekend

    • @annaarty4656
      @annaarty4656 26 дней назад

      @@driesketels I’ve noticed you answering so many comments very strong and nice of you ) have a great weekend

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  25 дней назад

      Look at me replying a second time even. hahaha XD see you around

  • @JustCreateReihanTrandafir
    @JustCreateReihanTrandafir 26 дней назад +1

    They are only artists. No collectors? Thanks for a deep look, like that you went deeper. 🙏🙏🙏

  • @GnaReffotsirk
    @GnaReffotsirk 26 дней назад

    Poison images prior to posting on insta?

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад +2

      mass poisining the images that we upload to IG. Would be cool if 3 billion people would do that indeed.

  • @TruthIsNot4Sale
    @TruthIsNot4Sale 26 дней назад +1

    Now it’s a site where the actual artist will “get inspiration” from with no buyers just artists

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад

      We'll see how it transforms

  • @JustCreateReihanTrandafir
    @JustCreateReihanTrandafir 26 дней назад

    Would you use one? Or using one of them?

  • @Skywohka
    @Skywohka 16 дней назад +1

    I love Insta

  • @PaintingVideos
    @PaintingVideos 24 дня назад

    Thanks. But, if something looks like it has little funding it's meant to look that way. It's always a big hand behind it. Which is fine. Just the way things go. We can play the game. We want exposure. And they provide the platform. Later they'll f things up like any other. Which is fine too. Starts and endings. And then there's a new platform. Welcome to life. 🎉

  • @thibaudherbert3144
    @thibaudherbert3144 26 дней назад +1

    To me it's a lost battle; It won't change anything, AI will improve and internet will be filled with beautiful images made by 5 years old prompting. The only way for artists to remain viable to me is to switch from digital to physical art. You have your how style ? Ok paint it in real or sculpt or anything, but tranfer your art style to real, market it, film the process, and you will sell and be ai proof. Because people will always love and buy the process of art creation, seeing that an artist with skills put his soul in it. Digital art as never been a way to make money out of is art. Physical art is, and will remain viable even when internet will be filled with beautiful art (AI or not). What sells is the creation process, and get this piece of art in your home that have a story around it.

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад +2

      the internet filled with prompts made by 5 year olds. hmmm sounds like something. Let's see what those 5 year olds will spend their money on 25 years later when they are 30 and are in need for nostalgia... Interesting

  • @PhilipDunnArt
    @PhilipDunnArt 27 дней назад +4

    I took a spin. Lots of animation, book illustration, fantasy vibes and AI art. I'm wondering if analog artists will get traction here. Hmmmmmm.

    • @Sandcat
      @Sandcat 26 дней назад +2

      I have seen all sorts on there! Cool sketches, ceramics, crochet, sculptures, traditional painting

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад

      We'll see indeed

  • @OfficialSiriusmusic
    @OfficialSiriusmusic 26 дней назад +1

    these big coprps should just give out monthly royalties for all data and art they use for their ai.i I bet we can all make a killing of of those royalty payments..considering our data is our data! very valuable...cause if we all decide to migrate out from their services they will go bankrupt. trust me. they dont want the data migrating.

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад +1

      They already have the data so... Not sure if that works anymore. But yes they should pay royalty or something fro ruser

  • @WeMustCoexist
    @WeMustCoexist 27 дней назад

    Lookin like dark wing duck

  • @wipjenni
    @wipjenni 27 дней назад

    I really thought you were showing DeviantArt - any year since 2007.

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад +1

      Don't have too much experience with deviantArt

    • @wipjenni
      @wipjenni 26 дней назад

      @driesketels I don't either - they've had aggressive 'you own it, but we can use it' t&cs since the start. Cara looks to be very similar. Thanks for the reply!

  • @manfagel
    @manfagel 24 дня назад +1

    I rather take a shot with cara and see if it lives, than stand Meta for another day with their bs. Been looking out for another platform for ages. I hate what Instagram has become and it lost its glamour, all i see is some kind of badly polished turd of an platform. Doesn't matter how much it gets polished, its still a stinking, sinking turd.

  • @artpipe
    @artpipe 22 дня назад

    it'll be something to keep an eye on, waited 8 yrs to join IG

  • @PersonalFlourish
    @PersonalFlourish 27 дней назад

    Whatever happened to Vero?

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад

      Yeah that was one of those promising ones indeed.

  • @riccia888
    @riccia888 26 дней назад +1

    Be very careful with Cara there are scammers in there such as Bobby Chiu promoting his useless courses to kids. Be careful.

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад +3

      Why is he a scammer? Sure he might be promoting a bad product, so is burger king, but that doesn't make them a scammer.
      Could you provide a bit more info so that potential users will be more aware of what they should actually be careful of?

  • @scollins4436
    @scollins4436 26 дней назад

    The girl who seems to own the website is a photographer. What I cannot understand is that most of the Images seem to be AI generated the very thing the artist says that she is against.

    • @contentcreator2311
      @contentcreator2311 26 дней назад +3

      That's cause it's the kind of art that most AIs have been trained on. The artists on Cara are very real though.

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад +2

      Yeah I think contentcreator 2311 is right. Digital art was indeed the training ground of AI mostly

    • @lightinthedusk
      @lightinthedusk 19 дней назад

      It’s digital art drawn by human artists that you see on Cara, not AI generated art. But it’s very worrying that people out there such as yourself are perceiving digital art as just AI art. Shows the negative impact of AI art - it’s giving people the impression that any digital art must be AI art! AI art basically was trained from stealing the digital art of artists online and mashing it together, so that’s why it has that look

    • @scollins4436
      @scollins4436 18 дней назад

      @@contentcreator2311 That you for explaining this.

  • @eenkjet
    @eenkjet 26 дней назад +1

    Not for fine artists. Looks like DeviatArt.

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад

      hard to say at this point let's see

  • @HalkerVeil
    @HalkerVeil 20 дней назад

    I dunno. Cara is too much of a Luddite platform.
    But it's interesting.

  • @CrimeaRiver
    @CrimeaRiver 26 дней назад

    "It looks like"
    How about you read up on it first?
    The Dutch really are the Americans of Europe.
    Shouting opinions first, getting information afterwards.

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад +1

      hahahah. Have a great weekend

  • @Spekplant
    @Spekplant 19 дней назад

    But Cara sells your info to third parties. Read their ToS. Think...

  • @ali_films
    @ali_films 26 дней назад

    Man Cara is overhyped like crazy! They probably paid all those people to talk about lol! Looks like an app for digital art emos

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад

      Don't think that anyone was paid but yes do feel that it's overhyped

  • @nicolasb.henry294
    @nicolasb.henry294 26 дней назад +1

    I will comtinue to use Instagram and try Cara...but I don't think this is the alternative to Instagram for me its look like a website. And this is all about digital art so... let's see

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels  26 дней назад

      yeah it def has that website vibe for sure