Photography with a f1.5 cine lens. What is it like to use a vintage "art" lens on digital cameras?

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @somegeezer
    @somegeezer 6 месяцев назад +6

    Lots of fun lenses in C mount that go unnoticed. I have an f/1.2 zoom with decent sharpness across the frame, and fits an MFT framing. Cost me less than 50 quid.

  • @wriggly
    @wriggly 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this video. It's a lovely reminder that photography is about light in all it’s forms. A photograph which is full of interesting, intriguing and beautiful light is a marvellous thing. The marriage of a digital sensor with a vintage lens is one that's made in heaven. The scope for fun through experimentation is endless.

  • @nvrumi
    @nvrumi 6 месяцев назад +2

    I have a few of the Wollensak cine lenses in my inventory. In particular, there is a 1" f/1.5 lens in there. I'll have to get it out.
    I paired it with an Olympus E-M10 (I think) Micro 4/3s body and a C-mount adapter. I have some captures in my archive, but they are from years ago.
    You've made me want to get it out and play with it some more, along with some of the others. I also might need to buy a spanner so I can open up some of these old lenses and clean the internal surfaces. They are prone to haze at their age.
    Good video. Thanks!

  • @michaelherskovitz4203
    @michaelherskovitz4203 6 месяцев назад +2

    Very nice review on the Dallmeyer and I’ve had similar wonderful experiences with their lenses as well as with some Elgeet and Kodak Cine lenses. I’ve found that the uncoated lenses can be very “fussy” when shoot outdoors and having some bright lights in the background. Your comparison of 16mm, cropped and full frame sensor was extremely beneficial. Thanks for putting the time and effort into this video and the overall comparison. I’m really glad I found your videos !

  • @NorCal-yeti
    @NorCal-yeti 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks !!! 🙏🏾 the ever deepening rabbit hole of Bokeh lol

  • @scottlarson1548
    @scottlarson1548 6 месяцев назад +1

    When I shot for the high school yearbook in the early 80s, the school had a cheap fast 50 something millimeter lens that was ridiculously blurry and distorted in the corners... and it was our favorite lens. We took lots of candid indoor portraits around the school with it and we loved the way it directed your attention to the center of the image. When I got back into photography in the 2000s I discovered that this was a "bad" lens and that every lens should be perfectly sharp and undistorted from corner to corner.

  • @rodcummings3606
    @rodcummings3606 6 месяцев назад +1

    Another great review. Magical swirly images is an understatement, especially wide-open. Great that you can control the effect by stopping down a little. Being able to adapt such a wide range of vintage lenses to modern mirrorless digital cameras has brought endless artistic possibilities, as you have shown. Plus, it is just good fun. I'd not been aware of Dallmeyer as a brand before now. Also until now, hadn't really considered Cine lenses. They are rather fascinating, as they open up the wild side that would normally be outside the image circle.

  • @bohusblahut8154
    @bohusblahut8154 6 месяцев назад

    I'm glad to see you tackle this topic. I started collecting C mount lenses in the 90s out of film school with dreams of making a 16mm short film. Even once digital took over my life I kept picking up these tiny cine lenses as they sold at comical prices, and I've got a collection of nearly 100. I still shoot with them, though you must jump through some considerable hoops.
    These diminutive lenses still look good, and are such an undiscovered resource, I remain surprised that no one has figured out a popular way to make use of them. There are a handful of cameras with sensors small enough (or digitally cropped small enough) to take advantage, but I mostly use a modified GoPro and an old Canon EOS M with Magic Lantern software.
    Among my favorites are a 50mm Bell + Howell with swirly bokeh and even macro. I've got a Bolex 50mm with remarkably beautiful background rendering too. My Angenieux 10-120mm zoom is famous as a documentary lens and reputed to be one of Kubrick's favorites (which Angeniuex supposedly modified to work on 35mm film). And then there are lots of experimental and strange lenses - like a 4.3mm fisheye and a 25mm that opens up to f0.76 and looks good doing it.
    Thanks for this video. Your lens explorations are among my very favorites, and you've warmed my heart knowing that I'm not the only one crowing about these precious tiny optics.

  • @cvijax
    @cvijax 5 месяцев назад

    Excellent presetation of this litle gem. I am glad that you enjoyed it.

  • @checkeredflagfilms
    @checkeredflagfilms 6 месяцев назад +2

    When I was coming up in the industry and working as an assistant cameraman, the old timers always referred to and requested lens using "inches"

  • @-441-
    @-441- 6 месяцев назад +6

    Opened right up reminds me of the Mr. Krabs tilted meme. This looks like even more swirl than Helios lenses. I feel like I wanna make this lens my first vintage!

    • @ej22_gc86
      @ej22_gc86 6 месяцев назад +3

      The 44-2 is almost tame compared to this!

    • @-441-
      @-441- 6 месяцев назад

      @@ej22_gc86 IKR??!! DO YOU SEE THAT f/1.5 SAMPLE? LOOK LIKE TORNADOES!! 🌀🌀🌀🌀🌪🌪

  • @troybrooks4954
    @troybrooks4954 6 месяцев назад +2

    I think it would be cool if you did a whole c mount video. Like talking about how some old schneider-kreuznach enlarger lenses come with square apertures. Some old computer tv lenses have triangular apertures. Old night vision lenses create very interesting effects and all of the above are incredibly sharp

    • @Simonsutak
      @Simonsutak  6 месяцев назад

      I would very much like to do a video like this. The problem I have is that I simply don't have enough hands-on experience of all the different types of lenses you mention. Maybe one day in the future....or....alternatively I narrate/read out your experience!!!!!

  • @troybrooks4954
    @troybrooks4954 6 месяцев назад +1

    My obsession with cine lenses started with a taylor&hobson cooke 1inch 1.5. I saw a like 15 second video shot with it and immediately had to have one cause ot swirls like crazy. I was already familiar with c mount and had a few so i got it (wasnt cheap) but it is to this day my favorite i own. I now have a separate bag full of old lenses like this that i always carry when i go out.

    • @troybrooks4954
      @troybrooks4954 6 месяцев назад +1

      If anyone would like more recommendations I fr have several that make for beautiful photos if you really like the way they act

    • @Simonsutak
      @Simonsutak  6 месяцев назад

      That would be excellent, I'm very keen to learn more - either here, or please email me! simons.utak1@gmail.com

  • @davidtrotter3542
    @davidtrotter3542 6 месяцев назад +1

    I used a Dallmeyer graphics (for screen print reproduction) repro lens on a huge old enlarger/camera that was on rails (approx 12-15 feet long) the camera back was 36" x 24" and it enlarged to 70" x 50" it was a great lens, As for cine lenses I own 2 Angenieux lenses a 14.5mm & 18.5mm but unfortunately one does not have a focuses mechanism the 18.5 and the 14.5 has weird female mount that I do not know what it is, I would love to try them but everyone I have asked it is either really expensive adapter or have no idea.
    As always great work Simon

  • @owenjenkinsofficial
    @owenjenkinsofficial 3 месяца назад

    would love to see portraits with this.

  • @thebackyardbrewer5611
    @thebackyardbrewer5611 Месяц назад

    Could you do a video on how you disassemble and clean old lenses? What tools you use and any tips? I'm starting to think that this might be a useful skill for a user of Vintage lenses

  • @jan-martinulvag1962
    @jan-martinulvag1962 6 месяцев назад +9

    Some people play music. Some people play instruments. Some people play other people. Some people take photos. Some people photograph things. Some people photograph glass. Some people thing about things. Some people think about thinking. Some people think about other peoples thinking. Some people just feel, they watch the watcher and the watching and what cannot be seen.

    • @-441-
      @-441- 6 месяцев назад

      Exactly 💯💯

    • @CableWrestler
      @CableWrestler 6 месяцев назад

      Weed. Not even once.

    • @ATKR45
      @ATKR45 6 месяцев назад

      I am high on weed, bro's on something else stronger

  • @cdrkennon
    @cdrkennon 6 месяцев назад

    Watching this and some of your other videos on the wonderful eccentricity of vintage lenses, I keep wondering how they would do with a full spectrum camera. It would be fascinating to see how IR, UV do with these lenses!

  • @zoltankaparthy9095
    @zoltankaparthy9095 5 месяцев назад

    Nice presentation of a nice lens. These old vintage lenses offer some interesting image possibilities. I have a few from the 40's and 50's which are good. Not as rare as this one. And Leica just came out with some new cine lenses which can also be had, some , in M-mount. They are good and sharp but somehow soft lenses with muted colors. Vintage offers a lot.
    The closest I have to an adapted cine is the Cooke Amotal, a sweet lens.
    Thanks.

  • @kavimontanaro7976
    @kavimontanaro7976 2 месяца назад

    I found an Astro-Berlin Tachonar 35mm f/1 at an estate sale over ten years ago. It sat unused until this week, only because I've just gotten a z mount camera. The body of the lens is too wide to fit m4/3 adapters. It was pretty exciting to see how big the image circle is - it's size is just like this lens. I haven't had a chance to take a walk with it yet, but I'm looking forward to it. If I can just figure out how to set up the IBIS...

  • @selkiemaine
    @selkiemaine 2 месяца назад +1

    After watching this video a few times, I went out and bought one of these. Oh, is it fun! I've already got a couple of lovely images and I think there are going to be more to come. The thing that bothered me was that, when these come up for sale in the US, they typically to for 250-350, but some folks out of Japan are trying to get a thousand for them. Yikes! I hope nobody is fooled into paying that price.

    • @Simonsutak
      @Simonsutak  2 месяца назад +1

      Many thanks for your comment. You motivated me to go out this morning with the lens. Some lovely results in the sun - although the images will need some strong contrast boosts. I'm also amazed some of the inflated prices in Japan and SE Asia. It's still possible to find these old cine lenses in the UK for far less, even taking in account postage and customs duties. But good luck to the sellers who get the high prices, I suppose.

  • @jawats
    @jawats 3 месяца назад

    S-Utak: Curious if you've ever considered doing a video on the Cooke Triplet, and examples of lenses using it, and why it's so important.

  • @SatanSupimpa
    @SatanSupimpa 6 месяцев назад +2

    Not as wild as this, but also quite less expensive, you can have some fun with the Fujian 35mm f1.7 CCTV lens if you accept it as some sort of toy lens. You can find this lens in wider focal angles, but they tend to have a bit smaller image circle, the 35 is just big enough to cover aps-c. For just $25 mine came with a metal lens hood, 2 macro rings and free international shipping.

    • @snappy8k
      @snappy8k 6 месяцев назад +1

      I'm wondering why it's called a CCTV lens? This mount transitioned from cinema cameras to just security cameras?... So is this Fujian just a cheap lens for security cameras?

    • @SatanSupimpa
      @SatanSupimpa 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@snappy8k That's exactly what it is, a security camera lens.

  • @PatrickCebulla
    @PatrickCebulla 4 месяца назад

    Very cool lens. Thank Your for sharing!

  • @Flox01000111
    @Flox01000111 6 месяцев назад

    That's a lovely lens that I would love to try. I wonder what it would look like with a tilt shift, or bellows that allow messing with the focal plane orientation.

  • @mikafoxx2717
    @mikafoxx2717 6 месяцев назад

    Holy, what. I think I saw a dallmeyer super six 2½ inch in a friend's shop.

  • @Jmart786
    @Jmart786 6 месяцев назад +1

    Beautiful, thanks!

  • @90sretroroaster
    @90sretroroaster 6 месяцев назад +1

    Very interesting as always. Thanks!

  • @drtools9226
    @drtools9226 6 месяцев назад +1

    You gotta try the leitz elmaron projector lens. Crazy swirly background i love it. And as close to leica as i can get ;]

    • @Simonsutak
      @Simonsutak  6 месяцев назад

      I'd like to try that. What focal length is your lens?

    • @drtools9226
      @drtools9226 6 месяцев назад

      @@Simonsutak i get my hands on the 150mm F2.8. Not easy to adapt. But with a lenshood i really love it. In germany you can get it for 50 Bucks.
      I even can focus to infinty.

    • @drtools9226
      @drtools9226 6 месяцев назад

      Crazy big soap bubbles and a good amount of contrast.

  • @CableWrestler
    @CableWrestler 6 месяцев назад

    Holy moly

  • @paulh6043
    @paulh6043 6 месяцев назад

    Fabulous

  • @-441-
    @-441- 6 месяцев назад

    Now I want this!!!! Any links to it?

    • @Simonsutak
      @Simonsutak  6 месяцев назад

      They come up on ebay - the UK site is probably the best one to find the lenses, as they were made in England.

    • @-441-
      @-441- 6 месяцев назад

      @@Simonsutak Thanks bro, it's the "Dallmeyer “Speed” Anastigmat 1” (25mm) f/1.5" right? Not sure if I caught the name right. A few different variants popped up.

    • @klausfuchs516
      @klausfuchs516 6 месяцев назад

      Just bought one!

    • @-441-
      @-441- 6 месяцев назад

      @@klausfuchs516 NO WAY!!! IM JEALOUS!! WHERE DID YOU GO?

    • @klausfuchs516
      @klausfuchs516 6 месяцев назад

      @@-441-west yorkshire cameras had a pretty good one in stock, so I visited immediately after watching the video to try it out!

  • @AminTheMystic
    @AminTheMystic 6 месяцев назад

    Wonder how the lens would work with focal reducing speed boosters?

    • @bohusblahut8154
      @bohusblahut8154 6 месяцев назад

      Sadly there's not enough room to fit one given how close the lens has to be to the sensor to work.

  • @hellopsp180
    @hellopsp180 5 месяцев назад

    Wow this lens is insane.Quite expensive though for the age

  • @mitchyadven7196
    @mitchyadven7196 4 месяца назад

    Does anyone know where I can find C mount to Leica M and Sony E mount bodies?

  • @Democratiser
    @Democratiser 6 месяцев назад +1

    I think this is beautiful artistic. Unique and seductive.

  • @-441-
    @-441- 6 месяцев назад +1

    📸📸✨✨🎶🎶

  • @kentjensen4504
    @kentjensen4504 6 месяцев назад

    What’s “utak”?

    • @Simonsutak
      @Simonsutak  6 месяцев назад +9

      In some languages (for example Filipino), it means brain, but it also has other meanings, such as mastermind and flatulence! I originally thought of the word because I own so many Takumar lenses. Taking the tak..out of Takumar, and using lenses to express visual thoughts, "Simon's brain" seemed a good, unusual phrase.

    • @mikafoxx2717
      @mikafoxx2717 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@Simonsutakflatulence.. hopefully not!

  • @zoltanvarga1967
    @zoltanvarga1967 6 месяцев назад

    💯❤❤❤❤❤💯

  • @sunflowerdeath
    @sunflowerdeath 6 месяцев назад

    Speeeeeed indeed 🤣🤣🤣

  • @seoulrydr
    @seoulrydr 6 месяцев назад +2

    there go the prices...

  • @js2765
    @js2765 6 месяцев назад +1

    The more you use.vintage lenses on modern sensors. The more you will sadly realise that they don't make them like they used to!

  • @marcbeebe
    @marcbeebe 6 месяцев назад

    Not for me, thanks; TOO much swirl.