Biblical Scholar Shares Expert Insights on The Bible's History
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- Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2024
- “If I can't believe in Jesus of Nazareth from the historical documents that we call the Bible, I shouldn't believe in the Roman Empire. I shouldn't believe in Alexander the Great. Here's a great comparison. Alexander the Great's two primary sources.” - Dr. Jeremiah Johnston
Why should we rely on Scripture? Is Scripture actually inerrant? What's the reason for variations in manuscripts? Pastor, author, and New Testament scholar Dr. Jeremiah Johnston joined Relatable to answer these questions and more.
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"Jesus may have read...." hmmmm We see Jesus reading from the scroll of Isiah, so we know he can read and we also see them saying about Jesus how can this man read having never learned....So, why should we think that Jesus studied the scriptures the way that they did? We shouldn't. It never says he did. Jesus IS the Word made flesh, He Knew it because He Is it.
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I read Christian men rape children, and your God don't stop the rape of children. What kind of God or Jesus do you believe in? I was 3 years old rape by a Christian man where was your God or Jesus there to save me. It was like being rape by your Christian God.
Amen🕊
I have found most ppl and even most Christians haven't even read the actual Bible, let alone the gnostics. Beyond reading the Bible I have found it helpful to read the history of the Bible, the various times and history in which it was written over the ages, as well as the various translations and history behind that. But I will also add how saddened I am at the level of biblical illiteracy even amongst Christian leaderships of various churches.
As you basically said...Most people who call themselves Christians haven't even taken the time to read the Bible for themselves. Belonging to a "religion" doesn't make you a "Christian",,, Honestly trying to follow the teachings and examples of Jesus is strictly what makes one a "Christian." To be "Christ" like. The only place you are going to find that out is in the first four books. {Gospels]
We were given free choice to follow God`s plan for life. What we do with it is up to us, choose wisely. There has never been a better, more complete plan, that proves itself to be what it is, known to man.
@thegunsngloryshow Only if you choose incorrectly. Choice has consequences.
@thegunsngloryshow It is the unwise choices of humans that put them in fire. Eden is long gone, now we all have to live with the result. God runs Heaven and Satan runs the Earth since he was cast out of Heaven. Who would you choose to follow after understanding the proofs that have been uncovered. Eve screwed up by allowing Satan to seduce her, now we all suffer as a result. Her brokenness caused her to corrupt Adam and now we all live with the result. Blame her not God. Man was never meant to eat from the Tree of Knowledge only the Tree of Life.
Yes! I put everything in God.
"Can we trust the bible?" The tag-line asks.....
More than public school teachers, more than local, state and federal politicians! More than the mainstream media.
C'mon, that is a ridiculous postulation.
Absurd for you, absurd for me perhaps. I think it's slimy phrasing that isn't reaching for my debate. Vocabulary for those who see its luster, may need its lesson most urgently
I read Christian men rape children, and your God don't stop the rape of children. What kind of God or Jesus do you believe in? I was 3 years old rape by a Christian man where was your God or Jesus there to save me. It was like being rape by your Christian God.
I read through the bible when a teenager and the apocrypha was some of the best stuff.
Excellent conversation.
Simple answer is No you cannot.
I've read and studied the apocryphal texts and they're great. They give great insight into the history. To me, and maybe it's just the Holy Spirit leading me, it's easy to tell why they are not in "the Bible". They have some fantasy-bound accounts, that the reader should be able to discern are full of exaggerations. But, they are useful for the comprehensive view of Christ's lineage and understanding of Him.
I was thinking about a similar topic - Whether we say Jesus, Jesus Christ, Lord, Jehovah, Yahweh, YHWH, or any other iteration, God knows our hearts. No need to argue with other believers.
The Catholic Bible has 73 books compared to 66 books found in other Bibles. Those are the 7 deuterocanonical books that Catholic Bible has which Luther removed. Jerome originally didn’t want the extra books included but he later changed his mind and included them in the LV. I never knew that until just recently. I started reading those extra books, and they have a ton of wisdom in them too. They even backup the idea of Purgatory and Almsgiving. The Maccabean book also backs up the Maccabean revolt which was a significant period in history. I don’t understand why the Jews didn’t want those extra books in the Bible. They have true Jewish history in them.
This guy is spot on on what to look for. Going back as far as possible to find original sources, artifacts, etc. and Secondary sources as well are in important such as other witnesses in the period and their recounts of historical events.
Cocky but we'll spoken. Facts, and clear concise reasoning, I like this guy.
The pharisees were scholars as well and most of them are in hell.
Would that not also include Paul? Considering he utilized the classification to assert kowledge of the Law, although doctoring it for personal gain.
@@Joe-pc3hs
Where is any of that in the Holy Bible?
There is ONLY one who has the authority to determine the eternal disposition of mortals and angelic beings... That is Jesus, not "we" The Father has given Him ALL authority in the heavens and earth. [Matt 23]
How do you know who is in hell. Kind of arrogant of ya.
@@davidsch1969 Did he not claim to be an accomplished pharisee(Phl3:4-5)? And did he not twist the Scripture for working livestock to be also applicable to him to reap monetarily(1Cor9: 9)?
The canon of the Bible is and has been 73 books:
In 382AD Pope Damasus at the Council of Rome listed the 27 books of the New Testament and 46 books of the Old Testament as the Canon of Scripture.
In 383AD Pope Damasus commissions St. Jerome to make a Latin translation of the New and Old Testament Scriptures. Jerome used the Hebrew Masoretic texts for his Old Testament translation and Greek writings for the New Testament translation. The Masoretic texts didn’t include the Deuterocanonical books because the Jews had rejected them. Jerome made a Latin translation of these books after they were confirmed by the Councils of Hippo and Carthage.
In 386AD the Council of Hippo came up with the same list of 46 OT and 27 NT books.
In 397AD the Council of Carthage again under Augustine came up with the same list and sent it to Rome for approval.
Because God would could and did give and establish His Word as is . We can have Faith in Him !!! KJV Companion Bible with Original Strongs Exhaustive Bible Concordance makes a complete way to study His Word in original languages . The Shepherds Chapel Church .
I have both the KJV and the Strings concordance from Arthur Murray! I miss him to this day and still watch his son Dennis but Arthur reruns are the best!
Strongs!
Glad to see fellow students of the Word here! ✝️
@@lauragarrard919 Yes me too ! God Bless !!!
@@williamwhite1596 God bless you too,dear brother.✝️
Please do not listen to these people! They might mean well, but are misguided. Just go read the Bible.
Thats 66 books of the protestant bible
It's 70 books man, the books of psalms are 5 in number. There are 5 psalm books and 65 other books for 70 total. and 70 is a number that comes up several times in the bible. Multiples of 7 are popular from what I've read.
So many logical fallacies here it hurts a bit. “Because we found some places that were written about in a book, the zombie rabbi story is true.”
New York exists, so obviously Spiderman is real.
What an excellent presentation of the history of the Bible with the best Bible for the English speaking peoples, of course, being the King James Version (KJV) Bible that has been derived from the King James 1611 Authorized Version of the Bible, and not only did this original version contain those Apocrypha books, it was a law that these Apocrypha books had to be included, with there being severe penalties if they were omitted.
In my humble layman's opinion, one of the very best studies one can engage in when it comes to being able to grasp the significance of the history of the KJV Bible is to simply watch one or more of the very excellent documentaries that can be viewed on Amazon Prime Video, with my favorites being "A Lamp in the Dark, The Untold History of the Bible Part 1" and "Tares Among the Wheat: Sequel to A Lamp in the Dark"
Funny, how most people who say they read, the Bible are still resting on the wrong day.
I recommend 'The left Hand Of God' by Paul Hoffman and 'Misery' by Steven King good read 👍🏼
"And interpretation with motive, there are so many interpreter, and that has spoiled the God consciousness of the human society."
😂🤣 I'm pretty sure the bible has been altered many times throughout history..
Can you give some examples of your claim and how those "alterations" have impacted the truthfulness of the Bible's claims?
Since you started your comment with laughing emoji's you clearly have more knowledge than countless scholars over the last 2000 years.
@@nathanloan3334 If you cared about the truth you would research that without demanding someone else prove to you what they themselves took the time to learn. Go listen to an Alan Watts lecture. Go listen to a Greg Braden lecture that shows parts of text that were edited out. Go google about the mistranslations. You are lacking serious critical thing skills if you think and accept that the KJV bible as written is 100% dictated by God. If you listen closely it is obvious this person is displaying subjective opinion. A lot of what he is saying can be argued and his comparisons are misleading. But as most of you have proven it is absolutely no use to tell you anything. It is easier to convince you of a lie that fits your desired narrative than it is to convince you you've been lied to. The Bible is fascinating and much of it edifying but it is not all what it seems to be.
@cyb5761 Wow... assume and stereotype much?
I wasn't aware that you have been following me around my whole life, recording what I have and have not studied. What I think and don't think about the bible. I'm gonna have to start looking around for you now.
You might want to check the notes you have of me, though. I don't read the KJV. And I don't know what a critical thing skill is.
Sarcasm aside, the fact that you place all Christians into one small stereotype, even down to assuming we only read the KJV, tells me you are one of the most ignorant people I've interacted with on the internet, and that's an accomplishment.
And since you've decided to stereotype every Christian into your own little invented box, this tells me you've not actually done what you are telling me to do. Which is research.
You think we don't know about the variants? You think we believe the bible was dictated by God?
You think we only read the KJV?
You think we haven't actually investigated the claims the bible makes?
You think we haven't listened and considered both sides of the arguments?
You think we can't read the nearly 25,000 Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek manuscripts we have?
And yet you are going to tell me that I don't research anything?
Also, you make claims about Dr. Johnston's comments claiming his points can be argued. First, you didn't say which points you were referring to, and second, you said they can be argued and offered no argument.
Please tell me any idea, theory, or conclusion that cannot be argued.
Next, you say his comparisons are misleading, yet offer no examples or argument for your claim.
Sound to me like you have a bunch of regurgitated words and no substance.
@cyb5761 Wow... assume and stereotype much?
I didn't realize you've been following me around my whole life keeping track on what I have and haven't studied, how I view and don't view the bible, and what I care and don't care about. I'll have to watch for you from now on.
One correction for your notes though, I don't read the KJV. I also don't know what a thing skill is.
Sarcasm aside, since you've decided to stereotype Christians into your small imaginary box, this proves you haven't done what you are telling me to do, which is research.
You think we don't know about the variants in the manuscripts?
You think we only read the KJV?
You think we believe God dictated the bible?
You think we can't read the 25,000 +/- manuscripts we have?
You think we haven't investigated the claims our religion and the bible makes?
You think we haven't listened to both sides of the arguments?
It sounds like you need to heed your own advice and do a little honest research.
Also, you make claims about Dr. Johnston's points but provide no argument to validate your claims.
You say a lot of what he is saying can be argued. First, any thought, idea, concept, theory, etc. can be argued. So, I'm not sure what your point is. Second, just saying "a lot of what he said" isn't actually challenging anything he said.
You also said his comparisons are misleading yet offer no comparison he mentioned and also offered no counter argument to any of them.
So, it sounds like you are full of regurgitated words and empty on substance.
Of course there is going to be variables in hand written/copied manuscripts. There are so many copies of the manuscripts where all of them don't have the same difference[s] We can/did use all the ones that don't have a specific difference comparing to all the other differences in the various manuscripts to arrive at having one consistent manuscript with all the minority differences removed.
Do I get a degree or do I have to have an academic tell me how to think ?
To be clear there are many Biblical Hebrew scholars who donot believe in God , they will eventually help rewrite the New Testament in the reset …. They’re working on it now
Oh yes i trust something thats 3000 years old and has been re-written 14 times now.
The old testament was first written in HEBREW and Aramaric. Think about it...
The original Orthodox Bible that the Orthodox Church gave us way back at the beginning is the only one that hasn't had things removed & changed. Talmudists were consulted on the KJV which is why Macabees was removed, over 60 verses were changed & its entire context reinterpreted. If one is not practicing the same rituals & getting the same interpretations as the apostles then one is obviously in error. You were warned that MANY false Churches would come in his name yet so many fall into it every time. Hence why so many Evangelicals end up as Noahides.
He needs to stop dying his hair that ridiculous color and also stop dying his beard that silly pattern; it would help his credibility.
The Gosple of Your Salvation:
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be Saved.
Acts 16:31kjv
For by Grace are ye Saved through Faith; And that Not of Yourselves: It is the Gift of God; Not of Works, Lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:8-9kjv
For God so Loved the World, That he gave his only Begotten Son, That Whosoever Believeth in him Should Not Perish, But have Everlasting Life.
John 3:16kjv
For Christ is the End of the Law for righteousness to everyone that Believeth.
Romans 10:4kjv
These things have I written unto you that Believe on the name of the Son of God, That ye may Know that ye have Eternal Life and that ye may Believe on the name of the Son of God.
1 John 5:13kjv
Friend, Do you Believe in Jesus Christ Alone for Salvation and the Free Gift of Eternal Life? Yes _No_
The books that aren't in the KJV are written by the little monk named Jerome, who was also ordered to write these catholiv books. They're corrupted by Jerome.
In the the beginning was the word, and the word was God; and the same was in the beginning with him. God WAS and IS the word of God in the flesh. And i am a catholic, even I know this.
If we can't trust the Word of God. Then by who's word do we trust? Man's? People who doubt that God protects his Word will forever be searching for their own truth based on their fallen, sinful nature. Leading straight to hell.
What evidence do you have to show that the bible is the word of a god, and not just the words of the human men that wrote it?
Forget what they are saying. God protected the Bible, the Old and The New Testaments. Jesus himself told us not one of the true words of the Bible would stand
Blah blah blah all I read was “I’m a braindead cultist FREAK that believes in the most retarded fairytale ever thought of”
Also protected the book of enoch but Christianity took it out to fit there narrative...
"For assuredly, I say to you,
till heaven and earth pass away,
one jot or one tittle will by no means
pass from the law
till all is fulfilled"
(Matthew 5:18 NKJV)
Bottom line regardless and we're not talking about the BIBLE... These people who get it wrong all the time and going back because I always digress is that Catholicism is the GREATEST CHRISTIAN APOSTASY.... not including false teachings and religion it is beyond reasonable doubt
Today's bible, compared to the Hebrew Tora or the dead sea scrolls...is perfectly written? Really? I have read the bible cover to cover, I still read it every day and I know for a fact there are inconsistencies and things that are not accurate, but I also know that this is because of man, not God or his son Jesus, it is because of man. Every time it gets translated or rewritten in anyway things get reworded. Things get dropped or added. I believe that the original bible was perfect, but what we have today...not so much.
God promised his word would remain pure but the Bible is not Gods word it is his book his word comes to us from the interpretation of said book by what ever church and Minister we go to on Sunday and that is what can't be trusted. Pick any religion and go to 5 of their churches and you will get 5 differant interpretations of Gods word. There is one church and only one that teaches the same lesson every day in every state and in every country all over the world the Jehovah Witnesses
You can trust in the Bible but you dare not trust the Bible translators.
Nothing man made is tobbe trusted or Devine.
Use NASB95; don't be a normie satanist. Maybe don't use the Bible for clickbait. If God can create the world, be man and Spirit and The Father, He can handle a proper translation From Geek/Hebrew to English. Forementioned translation is Greek/Hebrew to English, no frills, no lies, no problem.
if you don't know the ethiopian bible......you're not a biblical scholar.....you just a guy....pretending to be scholar....
Ethiopian Bible is the oldest and complete bible on earth
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The Bible is full of irregularities. You don’t need the Bible to meet Jesus and God. It is a book. Put no false gods before him. Go somewhere quiet and speak to him directly. Cut out the middleman who thinks they know everything. Ask the source.
God did not command His servants to have records for future generations only for us to ignore them.
Anyone who wants the truth, the absolute truth about this subject, look of Dr. Peter S Ruckman manuscript evidence. This man is either deceived and doesn't know (not likely) or is deceiving. The KJV is the pure words of God. It is THE book of The LORD wrote of in Isaiah. It can be proven ABSOLUTE by mathematics. See Truth is Christ YT.
Hahaha,
The Bible entirely full of contradictions, nonsense and silliness.
Who is Luke and who is Matthew and who is Mark.
& why are they telling different tells on the same stories?
The Bible on your hands are not the original Bible,
The Bible doesn't contradict itself. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were Apostles of Jesus who wrote about the same events from their viewpoint of those events with the oversight of the Holy Spirit. Keep studying and try to learn without any preconceived notion.
@@sharoncochran8508 no offense but,
No, you go read enough the Bible is known as a book that is full of contradictions, nonsense. Go watch more videos on this topic you will find enough to convince you that the Bible is full of contradictions and not reliable source.
@@sharoncochran8508
Has anyone seen god?
Should we kill people?
Is god good?
I could go on, but the bible contradicts itself on all of those points, plus more.