This will be terrible for the following reasons : time consuming which most palyers do not have, alliances will be formed in AOC leaving guilds behind, as we saw this week happening. I will consider to quit the game if it works out that way.
This is game mode like Asgard Like Arenas, Tournament of Element. You dont need to play all game modes. For example i dont play Asgard and Tournament of Element TOE
I am with you on this BS move by Dominion. There is no time for planning in AOC and no schedule. Investment into titans is now useless. The main reason for me was scheduling, with AOC there is no schedule.
@@M-Cai Ask your own guild who would prefer to play COW or AOC if the rewards were the same; overwhelming majority would go with COW. Weaker players in the guild are very little use. The major reason why players liked AOC is the rewards compared to COW.
Aoc is terrible. Because you can't see who you are attacking before you attack. I.e. you can waste 12 moves (which takes hours to accumulate), then fight a hero you aren't prepared to fight. Then you either lose hard, or wander around the map 'hoping' the next enemy you face is one you can beat with your current hero layout. Aoc is also terrible because it leans heavilly on "checking in" all dam day. - Cow is so much better. You can see the enemy lineup BEFORE you attack, and thus actually have a chance of winning. And you can pace yourself. If you don't have a lot of strong heros, you can play "clean up" and finish off half-beaten teams. - This is going to be one of the worst decision HW has ever made... They even say it in the video, right at the start, "players will need to invest MORE TIME" to dominate... I like HW because you only need to play 15-20 minutes a day. I don't want to have to "take a second job" to be competative..
@@eranir1 i think this is part of the actual game mode to have a fog of war, and to not see the enemy from a distance. the guilds who better organise themselves have a clear advantage...
@@eranir1 they should all guild members to view each others logs to see the teams their guild has already encountered. of course, if you can change teams that means you might still end up ill prepared in a fight.
I hate that change. AoC matches guilds poorly and you either dominate or are domionted which is boring. Titans seem to be totally devalued by that change. So we get a new boss which probably devalues lots of work (and money spent) to build the meta team and a boring poorly guild matching and time consuming game mode replaces one of the most fun parts of the game. That sucks big time. And on top it smells like a money grab to sell more golden tickets.
Why can't developers detect those people who use third party software and delete their accounts. So sick of people that cheat and ruin the gane for everyone else 🤬
I really enjoy CoW and I really despise the conquest event this change is likely to put me off the game altogether It's already gotten too expensive to be competitive, so it's very likely that this is just a new money grab Honestly, I was already considering just not playing it anymore, this might be the hint I need to stop
If tying is the main reason behind the decreasing popularity for CoW, why don't they just come up with a better scoring system to reduce the chance of tying? For example, remaining attacks can be added with bonus point to award guilds with less failed attacks. Also, more buffs can be introduced to make things more challenging. I felt like they should explore more ways to make CoW more interested as opposed to just replacing it with something even more time-consuming for the players.
That Area of Conquest is terrible because most of the guilds consist of players who play the game from different time zones and it’s even harder to coordinate playing the AOC in grouped manner because some players should leave the start point with more defensive oriented team while other players from organized group should leave the start point with more attacking team to help each other to capture and to defend the city. Most of our guild members preferred to ignore that game mode due to these reasons.
With the same success, you can delete Guild War - also a useless mode in which players can use third-party software to remember teams for kill your defense
The software tells you the team to use to defeat? I test and screenshot teams I face to help remember. So the advantage would just be convenience with this 3rd party software if that is the case.
Wow a great idea to ruin the game even more. AoC was the worst event ever time consuming with pathetic loot for the time spent there. Guilds already decided not to participate and just collect whatever it gives at the end of the event.
This is bad. I choose Hero Wars as a game with limited time consumed. Now People with much time on heir hands can play 24/7. I have no time for this. Think about quitting the game or switch to F2P and spend no more money on the game. This makes the Game worse 4 many people no one in our Guild is happy about this. And we won the last in Level 36 with 300K Points in advance. But where all happy that it was over. No one wants that all the time, that has a job and a life.
Slowly but surely this game is going to its end. If i want to play a game with a real time battles - i would play another - too many cheaper games i know with less bugs. The core of the HW was that i no need to be in the game 24/7. R.I.P HW.... :(((
I agree with the majority of the comments. CoW is mine and my guild's most favorite mode, while AoC is the least favorite! I hope they find a way to bring CoW back, be it with updates, refinements etc.!
Many of us invested money, time and energy into Titans. Since my strength lays in my Titans, AoC is not fun for me and many others like me. I have to wait for the stronger players with heroes to empty out a settlement for me so I can collect coins. I also collect chests but once the enemy finds out that I don't have strong heroes, I get beat up a lot and sent back to the castle. At least in the CoW, I could play my titans and try find someone with heroes that I could counter and hopefully win the battle. With the AoC the stronger players were spending too much time in there fighting the battles. I don't know which is worse, sitting in a settlement until you see a chest or get beat up, or being part of the few always in battles in order to hold the positions.
@@theuglykwan to automatically enter buildings when a guild mate has been defeated and replace him before the attacker can, for example. Or move from the castle after having been defeated on the map, and then use your 12 moves again to go to the center even when you're sleeping. We witnessed some incredible things. First day, everything was fine, second day, shit show.
@@biiiiiiiiiix ah ok i see the advantage as i had some people auto move to settlements but they went to sleep and didn't come back so they'd end up next to them but not going in or ones which did set a path to an empty settlement got blocked by enemy running in. also being in the centre ready when they got back on and had 12 more moves would be nice. i can see some advantage there.
I like to participate in AoC for a few minutes a day when it's an event that happens every few months. My guild got whooped because we could not have players log on in numbers at the same time. Also, it's frustrating to move all the way across the board to find a team I could easily beat if I had left the home castle with a different crew of heroes. I really enjoy CoW. My guild doesn't put too much effort into planning CoW and we achieve decent results. CoW let's me use different hero teams and different titan teams. They are not maxed, but I have to rely on synergy and I can beat teams with 200k power advantage. I also enjoy making the most of certain position buffs on defense - like the Engineerium. We'll see what kind of upgrades the developers have in mind, but my first impression is maybe the cheaters won.
Pour moi on devrai changer la façon de jouer sur AOC, vu qu'il a 4 équipes l'idéal serait de faire confronter 2 équipes et la meilleur affronterai l'autre meilleur équipe pour la première place et les perdants s'affronterais pour la troisième et quatrième place car dans ce jeu j'ai vu que quand il y 4 équipes des équipes pouvait s'arranger entre eux pour le podium ce qui rend le jeu moins séduisant de pourquoi ne pas y rajouter des équipes de Titans dans la conquête cela rendrai le jeu plus séduisant encore !
As for occasional players, CoW was a nice mode to play. I do not like this new mode at all! Even if we ignore a way more time needed, only one uptiered player in guild is enough to have +32 building for its own and other 30 players in weaker guild can do nothing. And what about titans variations and compositions? Are they become usuless? GW has no boosts in buildings...
@@crossbowsmania9627 if one player find solution how to kill specific team than everyone k ows how to kill it because is saved in software datatbase. So there is information how to kull any team. Basicaly you need to create new team to be good in defense, team that disnt exist ever. Even that will not work after 2 weeks
@@Olympushw they use 3rd party software even worse in area of conquest.you attack player,andhe always attack you first,before you are able to atttack him.or you kill some players and they stay in their position without losing health.i reported this to nexters.but they didnt do nothing about it
The worst update ever ... because I got one of the worst experience in AOC ... no team balance ( the first season of AOC was good ) the second one was very bad ! I'm wonder if COW will be removed , new players how they will upgrade totems ( light and dark ) !? also the COW shop contain other stuff !!! If Nexters remove COW ... they will lose a lot of players ... this is my own opinion . I mean Nexters already lose players because they don't take actions against cheaters even when we made report tickets with proofs the DEVS don't give a $hit about us !!
They should have changed it to "Point differential" on guild wars and clash of worlds. Then no collusion could happen. If it's a tie then you gain no points. You should only earn the points you win by.
If they had better matching it would be a better experience. I think AOC matches based on total hero power of guild. That's kind of bad as some guilds could have members that spread their resources all over while some guilds might have more concentrated hero power. That happened to us and we easily dominated against the 3 other guilds. It wasn't fun and I just sat in settlement, only leaving to collect chests and kill anyone that got close. The people stopped attacking me after 2 days as I would always heal up. By the end I only lost one hero despite never going back to castle. If the matching can maybe take into account the hero power of the highest x number of heroes of each guild member and match that way, it might lead to better matching. Then low spenders could still enjoy it.
@@Olympushw i dont kno about that. Not even all current top 50 guilds can tie every time. I say about 50 guilds prolly have the ability to tie with one another, but even with third party software, definitely not every guild can tie even if they want to. They just dont have enough leveled up heroes and titans to do so
@@Olympushw the fact many use software, doesn't mean they have the ability to get perfect scores. outside the top guilds, whales (that spend on both a variety of heroes/titans and extensive testing) are the minority in every guild. if 3-4-5 or even 10 players are testing, it's not enough. and if they don't have 30 heroes and 3 totems maxed, it might not be enough as well. your conclusions are relevant to a very small percentage of the tens of thousands of players.
I do not like this at all. AoC event is a fantastic event, but in my opinion should be only once per month, 3 to max 5 day long. reward as today (rescaled to evend duration reduction) It's a boosted arena fight mode CoW is a completely different thing, you need 3 teams, titans, and not too much time to do it Reward is very unbalanced between "whale guilds" and normal or low power guilds. CoW reward is much more calanced Please keep both events, do not transform CoW in AoC!
area of conquest is anyway terrible event. and with so many guilds cheated this time in aoc,it will be probably worse if they replace cow with aoc.lot of guilds now have some way to cheat in aoc. i reported,others also reported them.but nexters dont do nothing about it. terrible decision
I enjoy the game, i don't care too much whether i win or not. I have only 5 almost maxed heroes and i can finish at number 1 in arena so sometimes. So whatever mode they bring, i am in. I like aoc because i can see players move to attack etc. Cow is too static. I am a vip 3
This will be terrible for the following reasons : time consuming which most palyers do not have, alliances will be formed in AOC leaving guilds behind, as we saw this week happening. I will consider to quit the game if it works out that way.
This is game mode like Asgard Like Arenas, Tournament of Element. You dont need to play all game modes. For example i dont play Asgard and Tournament of Element TOE
I am with you on this BS move by Dominion. There is no time for planning in AOC and no schedule. Investment into titans is now useless. The main reason for me was scheduling, with AOC there is no schedule.
AoC is the best game mode voted by most players... they logon, take max 12 moves and logoff. Isn't this amazingly fun??!!!!
@@M-Cai Ask your own guild who would prefer to play COW or AOC if the rewards were the same; overwhelming majority would go with COW. Weaker players in the guild are very little use. The major reason why players liked AOC is the rewards compared to COW.
Aoc is terrible. Because you can't see who you are attacking before you attack. I.e. you can waste 12 moves (which takes hours to accumulate), then fight a hero you aren't prepared to fight. Then you either lose hard, or wander around the map 'hoping' the next enemy you face is one you can beat with your current hero layout. Aoc is also terrible because it leans heavilly on "checking in" all dam day.
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Cow is so much better. You can see the enemy lineup BEFORE you attack, and thus actually have a chance of winning. And you can pace yourself. If you don't have a lot of strong heros, you can play "clean up" and finish off half-beaten teams.
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This is going to be one of the worst decision HW has ever made... They even say it in the video, right at the start, "players will need to invest MORE TIME" to dominate... I like HW because you only need to play 15-20 minutes a day. I don't want to have to "take a second job" to be competative..
guild member can share what teams are around
@@miguelpanta should be part of the interface, like cow log.
@@eranir1 i think this is part of the actual game mode to have a fog of war, and to not see the enemy from a distance. the guilds who better organise themselves have a clear advantage...
@@eranir1 they should all guild members to view each others logs to see the teams their guild has already encountered. of course, if you can change teams that means you might still end up ill prepared in a fight.
@@miguelpanta my guild is spread across 4 continents... not an option...
I hate that change. AoC matches guilds poorly and you either dominate or are domionted which is boring. Titans seem to be totally devalued by that change. So we get a new boss which probably devalues lots of work (and money spent) to build the meta team and a boring poorly guild matching and time consuming game mode replaces one of the most fun parts of the game. That sucks big time. And on top it smells like a money grab to sell more golden tickets.
Why can't developers detect those people who use third party software and delete their accounts.
So sick of people that cheat and ruin the gane for everyone else 🤬
I really enjoy CoW and I really despise the conquest event
this change is likely to put me off the game altogether
It's already gotten too expensive to be competitive, so it's very likely that this is just a new money grab
Honestly, I was already considering just not playing it anymore, this might be the hint I need to stop
I sure hope not. I hated the AOC. too much time in it.
If tying is the main reason behind the decreasing popularity for CoW, why don't they just come up with a better scoring system to reduce the chance of tying? For example, remaining attacks can be added with bonus point to award guilds with less failed attacks. Also, more buffs can be introduced to make things more challenging. I felt like they should explore more ways to make CoW more interested as opposed to just replacing it with something even more time-consuming for the players.
That Area of Conquest is terrible because most of the guilds consist of players who play the game from different time zones and it’s even harder to coordinate playing the AOC in grouped manner because some players should leave the start point with more defensive oriented team while other players from organized group should leave the start point with more attacking team to help each other to capture and to defend the city. Most of our guild members preferred to ignore that game mode due to these reasons.
Olympus just to let you know we enjoy your videos and thank you for allowing us to vent about the AoC.
With the same success, you can delete Guild War - also a useless mode in which players can use third-party software to remember teams for kill your defense
The software tells you the team to use to defeat? I test and screenshot teams I face to help remember. So the advantage would just be convenience with this 3rd party software if that is the case.
Wow a great idea to ruin the game even more. AoC was the worst event ever time consuming with pathetic loot for the time spent there. Guilds already decided not to participate and just collect whatever it gives at the end of the event.
This is bad. I choose Hero Wars as a game with limited time consumed. Now People with much time on heir hands can play 24/7.
I have no time for this. Think about quitting the game or switch to F2P and spend no more money on the game.
This makes the Game worse 4 many people no one in our Guild is happy about this. And we won the last in Level 36 with 300K Points in advance.
But where all happy that it was over.
No one wants that all the time, that has a job and a life.
I have time, however I don't want to do that more than maybe once every 3 months or so. It's draining.
Actually I want to retire now , but due to the cow , i want to stay more time , now i think I can give up the game now😢
Slowly but surely this game is going to its end. If i want to play a game with a real time battles - i would play another - too many cheaper games i know with less bugs. The core of the HW was that i no need to be in the game 24/7. R.I.P HW.... :(((
I agree with the majority of the comments. CoW is mine and my guild's most favorite mode, while AoC is the least favorite! I hope they find a way to bring CoW back, be it with updates, refinements etc.!
Many of us invested money, time and energy into Titans. Since my strength lays in my Titans, AoC is not fun for me and many others like me. I have to wait for the stronger players with heroes to empty out a settlement for me so I can collect coins. I also collect chests but once the enemy finds out that I don't have strong heroes, I get beat up a lot and sent back to the castle. At least in the CoW, I could play my titans and try find someone with heroes that I could counter and hopefully win the battle. With the AoC the stronger players were spending too much time in there fighting the battles. I don't know which is worse, sitting in a settlement until you see a chest or get beat up, or being part of the few always in battles in order to hold the positions.
will the value of titans be depreciated massively?
probably they will add Titans in AOC
this change will not last as it will bring terrible situations
Thx Boss,and the Clash of Wordls merchant? and the coins? :O
moving scripts were also used in last AoC... also auto healing, auto attack when you come near them etc... already a shit show.
Why was a moving script needed when you could set auto moves anyway?
@@theuglykwan to automatically enter buildings when a guild mate has been defeated and replace him before the attacker can, for example.
Or move from the castle after having been defeated on the map, and then use your 12 moves again to go to the center even when you're sleeping.
We witnessed some incredible things. First day, everything was fine, second day, shit show.
@@biiiiiiiiiix ah ok i see the advantage as i had some people auto move to settlements but they went to sleep and didn't come back so they'd end up next to them but not going in or ones which did set a path to an empty settlement got blocked by enemy running in. also being in the centre ready when they got back on and had 12 more moves would be nice. i can see some advantage there.
What role do titans have in this change?
I like to participate in AoC for a few minutes a day when it's an event that happens every few months. My guild got whooped because we could not have players log on in numbers at the same time. Also, it's frustrating to move all the way across the board to find a team I could easily beat if I had left the home castle with a different crew of heroes. I really enjoy CoW. My guild doesn't put too much effort into planning CoW and we achieve decent results. CoW let's me use different hero teams and different titan teams. They are not maxed, but I have to rely on synergy and I can beat teams with 200k power advantage. I also enjoy making the most of certain position buffs on defense - like the Engineerium. We'll see what kind of upgrades the developers have in mind, but my first impression is maybe the cheaters won.
Pour moi on devrai changer la façon de jouer sur AOC, vu qu'il a 4 équipes l'idéal serait de faire confronter 2 équipes et la meilleur affronterai l'autre meilleur équipe pour la première place et les perdants s'affronterais pour la troisième et quatrième place car dans ce jeu j'ai vu que quand il y 4 équipes des équipes pouvait s'arranger entre eux pour le podium ce qui rend le jeu moins séduisant de pourquoi ne pas y rajouter des équipes de Titans dans la conquête cela rendrai le jeu plus séduisant encore !
absolument contre cette nouvelle mise à jour car cela implique trop de présence ds le jeu
During that time, Titan's totem of light and darkness will stop growing.
Will this new mode not still give out the rewards?
As for occasional players, CoW was a nice mode to play. I do not like this new mode at all! Even if we ignore a way more time needed, only one uptiered player in guild is enough to have +32 building for its own and other 30 players in weaker guild can do nothing. And what about titans variations and compositions? Are they become usuless? GW has no boosts in buildings...
Probably COW will be back when they find a way to stop third party software. at moemt COW is not fair game
@@Olympushw I didn't know there were cheating software, and how do they cheat?!
@@crossbowsmania9627 if one player find solution how to kill specific team than everyone k ows how to kill it because is saved in software datatbase. So there is information how to kull any team. Basicaly you need to create new team to be good in defense, team that disnt exist ever. Even that will not work after 2 weeks
@@Olympushw they use 3rd party software even worse in area of conquest.you attack player,andhe always attack you first,before you are able to atttack him.or you kill some players and they stay in their position without losing health.i reported this to nexters.but they didnt do nothing about it
@@Cok.i that was bug, not third party software
The worst update ever ... because I got one of the worst experience in AOC ... no team balance ( the first season of AOC was good ) the second one was very bad !
I'm wonder if COW will be removed , new players how they will upgrade totems ( light and dark ) !? also the COW shop contain other stuff !!!
If Nexters remove COW ... they will lose a lot of players ... this is my own opinion .
I mean Nexters already lose players because they don't take actions against cheaters even when we made report tickets with proofs the DEVS don't give a $hit about us !!
They should have changed it to "Point differential" on guild wars and clash of worlds. Then no collusion could happen. If it's a tie then you gain no points. You should only earn the points you win by.
"where players can truely test their skills in fair combat"...really? LOL....this is a pay to win game so open your wallets nice and wide
LOL, my thoughts exactly.
If they had better matching it would be a better experience. I think AOC matches based on total hero power of guild. That's kind of bad as some guilds could have members that spread their resources all over while some guilds might have more concentrated hero power. That happened to us and we easily dominated against the 3 other guilds. It wasn't fun and I just sat in settlement, only leaving to collect chests and kill anyone that got close. The people stopped attacking me after 2 days as I would always heal up. By the end I only lost one hero despite never going back to castle.
If the matching can maybe take into account the hero power of the highest x number of heroes of each guild member and match that way, it might lead to better matching. Then low spenders could still enjoy it.
AOC Is ok you must share your account with other guild members And all Will enjoy the game
outside of top 50, how many guilds tie with one another? i dont think ur video is accurate
Based on how many players use third party software the impact is bigger than top 50
@@Olympushw i dont kno about that. Not even all current top 50 guilds can tie every time. I say about 50 guilds prolly have the ability to tie with one another, but even with third party software, definitely not every guild can tie even if they want to. They just dont have enough leveled up heroes and titans to do so
@@Olympushw the fact many use software, doesn't mean they have the ability to get perfect scores. outside the top guilds, whales (that spend on both a variety of heroes/titans and extensive testing) are the minority in every guild. if 3-4-5 or even 10 players are testing, it's not enough. and if they don't have 30 heroes and 3 totems maxed, it might not be enough as well. your conclusions are relevant to a very small percentage of the tens of thousands of players.
I do not like this at all.
AoC event is a fantastic event, but in my opinion should be only once per month, 3 to max 5 day long. reward as today (rescaled to evend duration reduction)
It's a boosted arena fight mode
CoW is a completely different thing, you need 3 teams, titans, and not too much time to do it
Reward is very unbalanced between "whale guilds" and normal or low power guilds. CoW reward is much more calanced
Please keep both events, do not transform CoW in AoC!
area of conquest is anyway terrible event. and with so many guilds cheated this time in aoc,it will be probably worse if they replace cow with aoc.lot of guilds now have some way to cheat in aoc. i reported,others also reported them.but nexters dont do nothing about it. terrible decision
CoW needs to go, but AoC is too long and drawn out. It will actually cause more people to use scripts.
will soonly quit game
you dont have to quite. we will come tothe point were there will be lot of game modes, and you will choose whcihe one to play
Your arguments are very stupid and if Nexters listen to them, the game has no future and the game will stagnate more and more.
I enjoy the game, i don't care too much whether i win or not. I have only 5 almost maxed heroes and i can finish at number 1 in arena so sometimes. So whatever mode they bring, i am in. I like aoc because i can see players move to attack etc. Cow is too static. I am a vip 3
i hate COW so no crying about that^^
aoc sux..on hero wars and in politics