Thanks for the review. I knew it was going to be a good one when Christy started the review by saying "Yikes." I also appreciate you pointing out Olivia Hamilton is the director's wife. As a Jean Smart fan, I was hoping this would be great.
I love your podcast and reviews but I really loved this movie and had a blast with it 😅. The scene that shows Robbie transitioning to talkies and she can’t hit her mark had me in tears
Chazelle described it as “a love letter to cinema but a hate letter to Hollywood”. For me, I was on its wavelength the entire runtime. All the depravity felt like a perfect encapsulation of what the Hollywood machine does to people. Sure, if you think it revels in itself too greatly, you may argue the movie can’t have its cake and eat it too. But for me, I ate it up. I just feel we’re not used to seeing films from Hollywood lambast itself so strongly. Even the Tobey Maguire scene felt like perceptive casting to have Spider-Man (the first Marvel movie hero) take us into the depraved depths of Hollywood as superhero culture has hurt the industry overall. But great to hear your thoughts as always! Happy holidays
Roger Ebert once said, "No good film can be too long... just as no bad film can be too short." I get the feeling that this is a bad film that is way too long.
The editing of the film keeps the pacing pretty high so it doesn’t feel like a 3 hour long movie. The music also really helps to make the run time go by quicker.
I was interested in seeing this film until i found out its runtime. after batman & avatar i just cant do it, at least not in theaters. bury the ego & edit your films ffs
Maybe the biggest disconnect between "critics" and the audience of any film I've ever seen. Ashame this film was sabotaged by hollywood and it'll never get the credit it deserves.
do watch it though Babylon has people that loved it and gave it a 10 and people that totally hated it Thats usually the sign of a film that people will talk about, have strong opinions and that is at least worth seeing Amsterdam everybody was kinda eh...when it came out Babylon is like this years Joker, Bohemian Rapsody and others
@@DisasterArtist1997 I will watch (am a fan of Chazelle and Hurwitz) but I also accept that artists and creatives with a lot of early success (like these two have had) can sometimes believe and buy into their own hype a bit too much and produce something mediocre. Guess I'll just ahve to wait and see lol
@@DisasterArtist1997 Just got back from watching it (in 70mm no less which probably help its cause). It was better than I expected (probably because I went in with lowered expectations lol) but I think what hampers it is it seems to be multiple movies in one; as if Chazelle couldn't pick which character to focus on or which direction to go in and so included all of them.
2 years after this review, I can say this was a masterpiece. I internally struggled with my enjoyment but once you detach yourself from what makes a movie the creators or the audiences, it becomes such rampant, unapologetic and shitting on the audience message about cinema and Hollywood. This movie was not made for us, it was made to hurt us but to also say something more. Masterpiece. La La Land and Whiplash were about glamorizing Hollywood and the artists which I felt so bored to. Brilliant.
I really don’t know how I feel about it. I don’t hate it (because there’s to much to love about this from a cinematography, sound, costumes, score, and production standpoint and I did like Robbie and Calva’s performances) but I certainly don’t love this the way I do Whiplash, La La Land or First Man. It just felt like one of the most well-constructed car stuck containing so much excess of film history, orgies, parties and eccentric characters being stuck in the mud for 3 hours. It doesn’t really say much of anything other than provide a half-baked love letter to cinema but reducing the people and systems of cinema as being fickle, perverted, and unsophisticated. But I guess in todays day-and-age I love that this movie exists-that Damien Chazelle managed to get a studio to give upwards of $80 million to make this gigantic, propulsive, and jubilant transport to this decadent part of cinema history unconcerned with being mass appeal. Don’t know if that’s a ringing endorsement or if I would recommend it to anyone, but I’m glad I watched it.
David here from Sebring Florida USA I have been a movie buff for over fifty years and I thought about 30 percent of the movie was good. I can’t believe that no one notice that the main actress was way too modern for the part, just the way she looked and most of her outfits. the red dress and the swim suit one that was blue . I really don’t think people said the “F” Word over a hundred times. I liked the 1950’s part and the clips of classic movies.
Loved hearing your thoughts. I hope to disagree just because I've loved Chazelle's previous work but I've hated the look of this one so far. Also have you guys seen the quote from the first q&a for the film where Chazelle says it may be a love letter to cinema but it's more like a hate letter to Hollywood? That sounds accurate based on your description of it as an assault on the senses.
I thought that talkie scene, as well as any other scene with a big comedic payoff, went on for far too long, to the extent that the punchline was never a surprise. I HATED this movie lol. I wanted to leave so bad but I was waiting out a snowstorm. I especially hated how cynical it felt. For like 3 hours it's basically accosting us and telling us "you like movies? well THIS is why you should hate them! look at these disgusting animals. you have nostalgia for THIS?" and then at the very end it does a 180 and goes "but actually movies are good, like this one! the one you just watched." The ending was such a mistake.
I got a different message from the movie. Chazelle obviously loves the art of cinema and advocates for how movies transport people and bring them joy and wonder. At the same time, the industry churning out these movies doesn’t care about who comes and goes and does terrible things behind the scenes. These two are not mutually exclusive nor contradictory.
Let me begin by stating, I walked out of the theatre after about 30 minutes. But before that I had to fight to keep my eyes open-literally. However I was jarred (constantly) awake by the use of the word, “fu*k” and iterations of it-over 40 times in the first half hour. Every character used the word(s) within their bad acting, to “illustrate” and “highlight” and underline their feels-which are over the top and not believable. An easy-to-spot sign of a bad writer(s) is how often (if at all) the the word, “fu*k” is used in a story. The more-the worse the writer. And Babylon averages on “fu*k” per minute (at least for the first thirty minutes” Another indication of poor writing is the use of contemporary vernacular in period films (which I see/hear constantly). Babylon, writers have no clue of the vernacular of the period and (obviously-foolishly) think, “people spoke back then the same way we do today, as indicated by these two examples; 1, “mother fu*ker” was not used in the 1920-especially by white people (unless of course you’re in a poorly written film), 2, calling a man “bit*h” was also not a thing in the 1920’s but these writers (obviously) don’t know that. And like La La Land, the acting-a product of the directing, is horrible. Well, actual the acting in Babylon is actually worse. Brad Pitt (whom I love as an actor) is at his absolute worst.” Margo Robbie (whom was wonderful opposite DiCaprio) is completely not believable. Flea, his character and dialogue could not be worse-absolutely horrible and implacable. Then there’s the “tit” scene; don’t know who the actress playing the director is but she deserves an award: “The-absolute-worst-performance-I’ve-seen-in-years-Award.” She, like the others weren’t “acting,” they were reading the lines-of the terribly scribed script-terribly directed by a man who in my option has (only) one good film under his belt: Whiplash. Lastly, the opening party scene (and most every other) are waaaaay toooo long. The party scene labored on ad infinitum. It could and should have be (at least) eighty-five percent shorter. There’s no reason or need for endless-shots of (non stimulating) half and fully naked people dancing. (and I like naked people). At times like these I wish I had four hands so I could give this piece of garbage four thumbs down. BTW, I also walked out on La La Land.
Damn, I'm having a hard time deciding on whether to watch this film. Ultimately, I think I'll still see it because I'm a fan of Robbie's work on balance.
4/5. It’s INSANE. BUT there were multiple times in last 20 min where I was like “now is this where they end it”? Cuz there were 6 different endings. I’ll just say this, when a character drives into the dark: end it there. My favorite scene involves PJ BYRNE let’s just say SHOUTING 😂
This is a definite "love it" or "hate it" kind of film! I'm in the camp of loving it. It was a mess, but I feel like that was intentional to speak to the times of cinema infancy. I'm probably wrong, but I like to think of it as intentional! Cheers!
It bordered on pretentiousness and it was quite self indulgent in it's portrayal of early Hollywood transitioning from silent movies to the talkies.The fast pace was overkill.
I personally really liked the musical score, and that’s the only thing I enjoyed about this movie. This entire thing felt like a structural clone of Boogie Nights, all the way down to a tertiary character dying, cut to a title card denoting a new decade which will see the downfall for a lot of the characters. The difference is that Boogie Nights is great and made by somebody who understands that era of L.A. and porn, and Babylon is bad and made by a person far too mannered to be properly chaotic. “Zero restraint” is not a good look on Chazelle.
I saw it last night and had such a great time. Yeah it's big and messy but I was never bored and that ending completely worked for me. The score was fantastic! Sorry y'all didn't have a good time 😔
“Pizza, we get it, yum, boring, whatever. With all the toppings and it’s so over-indulgent and there’s so much of it. I would have preferred a smaller size with less toppings so I could really savor it but I have no idea what is even going on here. It probably wasn’t even prepared in the right type of oven. Have these people who made it even been to Italy? Like do they even like pizza, have they ever even at least tried a real Italian slice. Who needs all that crust. And mushrooms on pizza, I’m sorry but, yeah no, gross. This pizza could have been so much better but ultimately, it was just too much and it was trying way too hard.” Duralde
I liked Chazelle's first film, Guy and Madeline on a Park Bench, but I couldn't stand Whiplash or La La Land. To follow up on Alonso's statement about a movie being made by someone who doesn't like movies, etc, Whiplash seemed to be made by a guy with no understanding or love of jazz. Buddy Rich was relentlessly brought up as some kind of icon; he was a great showman, and a good drummer, but didn't add much to jazz music. He was fun on talk shows, but was more flash than substance. And I guess there was some reason Chazelle felt the need to distort the Charlie Parker story; it's like he heard of the event tenth hand, like a game of telephone. And, God, "La La Land," man. What was that Weather Channel stuff the Gosling character was peddling? At least "Whiplash" had Freeman camping it up. I have to add that a now departed friend of mine was a jazz pianist who taught at NYU and Julliard and he despised Whiplash too. I'll check out Babylon when it streams, or on disc, but it sounds interminable.
Late review as I just watched the movie but I loved it (I also didn’t love La La Land ). I actually loved the score and especially loved the scene where Margot Robbie is trying to transition to talking films. But as much as I loved it , I can’t really deny the criticism from those who didn’t enjoy it as it’s a really over the top movie and is at many times , obscene and outrageous.
the more I hear you guys describe this movie, the more I think that Damien Chazelle watched the ingenious Babylon Berlin on Netflix, out of Germany, and wanted to do something, anything, along those lines. and I can understand that impulse, because the first two seasons of that show are truly something special. It's from Tom Tykwer, who came up with Run Lola Run. Tom's method creating a narrative seems to be one of the more unique in global theater. It's a highly innovative show, like nothing you've ever seen before. But if you do give it a try to see what I'm on about, I would recommend using English dubs, but push past the first few minutes, because it's really hammy briefly, then it improves drastically.
This is why i always watch reviews before watching a movie. Cause the trailer for this film had me sooo hyped for the movie. But after seeing reviews of this movie i don't have to watch it. Thanks for helping me
As always, really fun and information! Two of the best critics around. I think your points about this film covering the same ground as a lot of other movies really came through in the trailers. These directors needs to find something else to say about Hollywood. I honestly didn't really like La La Land. I felt like Emma Stone and Ryan Gosling were able to make a lot out of the nothing they were given. So if this is worse than that, I think it's a clear skip it for me.
Fantastic movie! The greatest love letter in cinema with an extremely charismatic cast and a director where some says - including me - that he is next Spielberg. This is how epic movies looks like!
Hoping someday to meet Christy or Alonso so they can tell me why I should have liked Whiplash more. (I have the disadvantage of being a professional musician with big band experience, and I couldn't suspend enough disbelief.)
@@BreakfastAllDay It's been awhile, but the main thing was that there's no circumstance where the bandleader (no matter how sociopathic he is) would replace the drummer who's been rehearsing for the competition with Andrew (and where was the reaction of the rest of the band to this?). I've considered that everything in the movie after Andrew's accident is his coma dream.
Timing: A few minutes later, I'm reading Stephen Fry (in the Times of London), answering a question about his "cultural life": [The film you walked out on] La La Land. Really didn’t see the point of it at all, I’m afraid. Mind you, I can’t think of many films that won, or were up for, best picture that I’ve ever really enjoyed or wanted to watch more than once. Felt the same about that awful one about the mean bully who kept being horrid to the drumming pupil. What was it called? Whiplash. Everyone seemed to love it.
I know that all scores can be relative, and I know the film was a real turn-off for you, but 3.4/2.5 for a film with "some great sequences", some "really good work" from several of the actors, "some great craft", etc. seems pretty harsh; especially when such crap/silly/juvenile stuff can get 4s, 5s, 6s from you two throughout the year. I'm still psyched to see it tomorrow night. Bummed you didn't like it. It is interesting that this film is in the 60-62 range on RT and Metacritic with 6 100's on the latter. I believe your 3.4/2.5's are the scathing-est of reviews that I've read/heard.
Almost every director makes a film about films film. J Abrams made Super 8. Tarantino made Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Scorsese made Hugo. Spielberg made The Fabelmans. Dante made Matinee. Darabont made The Majestic. Mendes made Empire of Light. Coen Bros. made Hail, Caesar! Burton made Ed Wood. This film, is about half as good as the worst film on this list. I'm glad I didn't read any reviews before going into this film, because I wanted to know it was ME who didn't enjoy the film. I made my mind up as soon as the title card BABYLON was shown after 20 something minutes.. Then I was stuck there, past the point of no return. THEN the end came, and I let out a "HA!" Not sure the director was aiming for that response.
Just watched this hot mess on Prime Video. It reminded me why I hate action films; action scenes are a whole lot of hollow noise. They're not the least bit exciting to me. An action sequence should be the consequence of the tension being built before it; it shouldn't be the whole movie. And that underground scene was just gross.
"He's just like a handsome nothing" LOL I hope poor Diego doesn't watch this. Still intrigued and heard enough wide ranging passionate reactions on both sides to check out (at home, not in theater). Also, never question your love for Magnolia.
Interesting how many people don`t like the movie. Judging from what I read here: Most of them were put off by critics and didn`t see it. From the reactions of people who DID see it I get a totally different picture. A lot of them think that this might become a classic. I tent to agree with them.
I really disagree on this one. I found the movie to be this batshit cocaine laced fever dream about the transition from silent to talkies. and about all the consequences on the people. And i couldn’t take my eyes off of the screen. It was a chaotic, experimental, beautiful cinematic experience. And out of the 63 films I’ve seen this year I think it may have been my favorite
Michael Bay movies are loud for no reason other than “it’s a Michael Bay movie.” You can argue that Chazelle is trying to assault your senses to convey what that 20’s lifestyle felt like, but it’s absolutely not everyone’s cup of tea.
Well, if anything comes of this review it's the satisfaction of knowing of another person who is a fan of Magnolia. I love that movie! As to this one, jeez ..I might just watch it to catch that buzz but I'll be careful when I do
THIS is a really good (not great) movie, that has a lot of powerful points to make - including the excess and the unwillingness to adapt to change - even the defecating elephant, while definitely too long on screen , is a metaphor - and I won't even start on the fantastic score
During the depression era Coco Chanel was once asked to make the costumes for legendary Gloria Swanson but was quickly fired by the diva. Coco didn't get Hollywood and tried to dress the movie star in simple, boring clothes. What she failed to realize is that the audience wanted an escape. They wanted romance, glamour and excitement. NOT a reminder of the awfulness surrounding them. Just like this garbage of a movie. A critic once pointed out that the always beautiful Marilyn Monroe in the film 'The Prince & The Showgirl' acted modern and not of the time period. Just like everyone in this abysmal monstrosity. When you watch those old black and white films, from Jean Harlow to Greta Garbo, Fred Astaire and Clark Gable, the people in general. There was a certain way they spoke and behaved that was nothing like today. Grooming was an absolute must! But Margot Robbie's hair alone was an absolute disaster. Dry, flat and dull! Lifeless like this mockery of a movie, despite them laughing and having a great time. There was nothing fun about this. If I wanted decadence, I would have just watched reruns of Dynasty. If I wanted filth, I would have gone with porn, at least then I'd get a more pleasurable experience. Whenever a filmmaker tries to be bold and shocking, their really just trying desperately to get noticed. Cinema will always have stipulations and prohibitions with what one can and can't display on screen, so therefore if you cannot show everything then it's best that you not show it at all. I'll just go ahead and rewatch M3gan instead.
I agree with you guys…. Yet, I was never bored like I was watching avatar 2. I thought it was a mess but I was sort of entertained. The movie meanders, it’s long, bloated, overwrought, and self indulgent. I’m giving it a slight recommendation. Avatar sucked and it gave me a massive headache.
I find it extremely disheartening to hear film critics complain about there being multiple movies about the magic of the movies. They’re needed today more than ever. Even a bad one.
I just saw the film and it felt like it was made in 1926 but that's about the only good thing about it it feels like Damien did his worst impression of a Quentin Tarantino film tried to make everything and then end up making nothing
Hahaha! Loved this review! Thank you two for being brutally honest about the way this movie brutalized you. This is the type of review that saves me 3 hours of my life I would have lost. Also, sadly, this movie sounds like a great reason for the broader movie going public to stop going to the movies because who’s supposed to enjoy this?
When I first saw the trailer, my first thought was "This looks like a very expensive flop." I guess time will tell, but I'm definitely skipping this one.
You hated the score!?!?!? I was agreeing with you for alot of this review unil that point. You lost me. The score was one of the highlights of this film
For anyone that loves cinema or are self proclaimed cinephiles like myself, if you have a negative review of this film, I’m asking WHY/HOW?!!! This film is incredible and lives up to its name! On the cusp of transitioning from silent to “talkies”, Hollywood is transformed almost overnight, throwing out the old, making way for the “new”. To think, people back then thought sounds in film would be too gimmicky and wouldn’t last is just insane to think about lol. And did I just hear her say this movie was a bit tame?!! Um what film were you watching?! If it was tame, then it would’ve been pg13. Tame ha! I honestly think you didn’t get the film at all. It’s a period exploitation film. It’s as if you didn’t like the film because you expected it to be glossy and decadent and sophisticated when it’s showing you that the sophisticated are just as ugly if not uglier than what people think. You guys don’t know cinema at all. Went way over y’all’s heads smh 🤦♂️
I really like Chazelle, but 188 minutes in a theater of something not even approaching a "meh" doesn't sound very appealing. Probably wait for streaming, thanks for the review and watching all the animal fluids for us you guys! 🙏
"This movie was meant to be the "Shock Of The Hour" type of film in order to be a (Reflection) of what is happening, even now in this era (with passages that also mirrors the Bible)...."Hollywood" is and always will be a (Real-Life) representation of BABYLON, NOTE: Trust me when I say that this film's depictions of (DRUGS & DEBAUCHERY) are far more (TAME) for today's audiences if you ask me."😉
The same people who complain that there's no original content and then go on to trash said movies are also the ones who flock to CGI franchise movies like Avatar and Marvel. I'm sure they're the same people who post memes that say "Stop making stupid people famous!" and then binge-watch the Kardashians.
As soon as I saw the trailer for this my immediate thought was "Move stars in a self-indulgent circle jerk about how amazing movies and movie stars are." Sounds like I wasn't far off. lol
I love your reviews so much and I’m glad I disagree with you on this one. First time. I really enjoyed the chaos this movie is. Great performances and so much debauchery. But with that is a good story and I wonder if you give this movie a second watch, you’d have a different appreciation for it.
It's damien chazelle Ryan Gosling is my favorite and whiplash is the best movie of the last decade period and i like the wolf of wall street and maestro Tarantino's work once upon a time in hollywood so you know I'm sold and Margot robbie got robbed 4 i tonya and i am hyped 4 barbie can u guys tell me when will it release in india cz i live there by d way brilliant review merci muchas gracias thankyou
Sounds like the trailers inability to tell me what the movie is about or why I should see it (other than the cast) is an accurate reflection of the film.
@@BreakfastAllDay BTW happy to have finally found you folks again after WTF?! ended. I think it was when I was searching for a Tár review (&/or other ‘smaller’ release) that I clicked on a vid from this oddly named/logo’d channel that I’d recently began seeing pop up in searches etc. and then ‘OH!, hey, I know these kids!!!’.
I feel so vindicated for hating this! They were talking this being a "star-making role' for Diego and I didn't get that either. Just because more people will know who he is next time?!
I don’t know why these two are being so grumpy about this movie. It’s not terrible, it’s just kind of a frantic and oppressive experience, but it’s not joyless, it’s just weird. I guess that’s the subjectivity of film.
So sad. La La Land is in my top ten films. I was looking forward to this when it was first announced a few years ago, but from the first trailer I was 1000% off the Damien Chazelle train. Not one moment of any scene from this looks appealing. Oh well. He should have saved this sort of thing for his seventh or eighth film when his career could have endured a self-indulgent misfire. The La La Land soundtrack is probably my favorite soundtrack of all time, and in my top five albums of all time period. I loved the music from First Man. The music here was a complete miss from beginning to end.
@@BreakfastAllDay Pretty sure this will be a lifetime skip. I don’t even get to see all the movies I WANT to see, I’m certainly not going to make time for a movie that looks like everything I don’t want to see in a movie. I’ll just watch La La Land again if I need a Damien Chazelle/Justin Hurwitz fix. Hopefully Babylon is their “1941” and they’ll be suitably chastised and go back to making films audiences will like.
I haven't seen the film, but the concept of Hollywood making a film that is so self-aggrandizing, where Hollywood fawns over the glitz and glamour of Hollywood, just seems so conceited. It would be like going to a party where the host spends the entire time bragging about his exploits instead of entertaining his guests.
It’s not that. It paints Hollywood in a pretty bad light, actually. But it’s also a lot of other things. I can see why people are sick of this type of films, though.
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Thanks for the review. I knew it was going to be a good one when Christy started the review by saying "Yikes." I also appreciate you pointing out Olivia Hamilton is the director's wife. As a Jean Smart fan, I was hoping this would be great.
Both actresses are very good in this!
I love your podcast and reviews but I really loved this movie and had a blast with it 😅. The scene that shows Robbie transitioning to talkies and she can’t hit her mark had me in tears
Oh that scene was great. Love the way it's paced, and all the little details of how it goes wrong. Thanks for watching!
Chazelle described it as “a love letter to cinema but a hate letter to Hollywood”. For me, I was on its wavelength the entire runtime. All the depravity felt like a perfect encapsulation of what the Hollywood machine does to people.
Sure, if you think it revels in itself too greatly, you may argue the movie can’t have its cake and eat it too. But for me, I ate it up. I just feel we’re not used to seeing films from Hollywood lambast itself so strongly. Even the Tobey Maguire scene felt like perceptive casting to have Spider-Man (the first Marvel movie hero) take us into the depraved depths of Hollywood as superhero culture has hurt the industry overall.
But great to hear your thoughts as always! Happy holidays
Thanks for sharing yours, as well. That Tobey Maguire point is a good one. Happy Holidays!
Roger Ebert once said, "No good film can be too long... just as no bad film can be too short." I get the feeling that this is a bad film that is way too long.
It does feel too long.
This has become a chronic issue in the industry. Nearly every film and series is indulgently under-edited.
The editing of the film keeps the pacing pretty high so it doesn’t feel like a 3 hour long movie. The music also really helps to make the run time go by quicker.
I was interested in seeing this film until i found out its runtime. after batman & avatar i just cant do it, at least not in theaters. bury the ego & edit your films ffs
Funny how many people criticise aspects of a movie they didn`t even see. Whats the point of that? See it, talk about it or stfu.
Maybe the biggest disconnect between "critics" and the audience of any film I've ever seen. Ashame this film was sabotaged by hollywood and it'll never get the credit it deserves.
Glad you liked it better than we did!
I just saw the film and i loved it a lot. I loved the fearless filmmaking style i really thought it was amazing.
Glad it worked for you!
"Amsterdam" and now "Babylon" not as good as the hype. Margot Robbie is having a tough year in films named after cities lol
Ha, that's funny!
do watch it though
Babylon has people that loved it and gave it a 10 and people that totally hated it
Thats usually the sign of a film that people will talk about, have strong opinions and that is at least worth seeing
Amsterdam everybody was kinda eh...when it came out
Babylon is like this years Joker, Bohemian Rapsody and others
@@DisasterArtist1997 I will watch (am a fan of Chazelle and Hurwitz) but I also accept that artists and creatives with a lot of early success (like these two have had) can sometimes believe and buy into their own hype a bit too much and produce something mediocre. Guess I'll just ahve to wait and see lol
Hopefully Barbie will be better
@@DisasterArtist1997 Just got back from watching it (in 70mm no less which probably help its cause). It was better than I expected (probably because I went in with lowered expectations lol) but I think what hampers it is it seems to be multiple movies in one; as if Chazelle couldn't pick which character to focus on or which direction to go in and so included all of them.
Chopin once said: after one has played a vast quantity of notes and more notes, it is simplicity that emerges as the crowning reward of art.
2 years after this review, I can say this was a masterpiece. I internally struggled with my enjoyment but once you detach yourself from what makes a movie the creators or the audiences, it becomes such rampant, unapologetic and shitting on the audience message about cinema and Hollywood. This movie was not made for us, it was made to hurt us but to also say something more. Masterpiece. La La Land and Whiplash were about glamorizing Hollywood and the artists which I felt so bored to. Brilliant.
I really don’t know how I feel about it. I don’t hate it (because there’s to much to love about this from a cinematography, sound, costumes, score, and production standpoint and I did like Robbie and Calva’s performances) but I certainly don’t love this the way I do Whiplash, La La Land or First Man. It just felt like one of the most well-constructed car stuck containing so much excess of film history, orgies, parties and eccentric characters being stuck in the mud for 3 hours.
It doesn’t really say much of anything other than provide a half-baked love letter to cinema but reducing the people and systems of cinema as being fickle, perverted, and unsophisticated. But I guess in todays day-and-age I love that this movie exists-that Damien Chazelle managed to get a studio to give upwards of $80 million to make this gigantic, propulsive, and jubilant transport to this decadent part of cinema history unconcerned with being mass appeal. Don’t know if that’s a ringing endorsement or if I would recommend it to anyone, but I’m glad I watched it.
Thank you for sharing those insights!
David here from Sebring Florida USA I have been a movie buff for over fifty years and I thought about 30 percent of the movie was good. I can’t believe that no one notice that the main actress was way too modern for the part, just the way she looked and most of her outfits. the red dress and the swim suit one that was blue . I really don’t think people said the “F”
Word over a hundred times. I liked the 1950’s part and the clips of classic movies.
I think this film is perfectly timed. People are going to be on opposite ends, very few in the middle. I loved it!
Glad it worked for you!
I thought Babylon was terrific.
It was, I liked it quite a bit.
Loved hearing your thoughts. I hope to disagree just because I've loved Chazelle's previous work but I've hated the look of this one so far.
Also have you guys seen the quote from the first q&a for the film where Chazelle says it may be a love letter to cinema but it's more like a hate letter to Hollywood? That sounds accurate based on your description of it as an assault on the senses.
That's interesting. Let us know what you think!
I saw the movie yesterday. I’d say Chazelle at least accomplished what he set out to say in this film.
Wow you two are just so good at this movie review stuff. Thank you both.
Thanks for watching, Michael!
You do realise they do it for it a living
I thought that talkie scene, as well as any other scene with a big comedic payoff, went on for far too long, to the extent that the punchline was never a surprise.
I HATED this movie lol. I wanted to leave so bad but I was waiting out a snowstorm. I especially hated how cynical it felt. For like 3 hours it's basically accosting us and telling us "you like movies? well THIS is why you should hate them! look at these disgusting animals. you have nostalgia for THIS?" and then at the very end it does a 180 and goes "but actually movies are good, like this one! the one you just watched."
The ending was such a mistake.
I got a different message from the movie. Chazelle obviously loves the art of cinema and advocates for how movies transport people and bring them joy and wonder. At the same time, the industry churning out these movies doesn’t care about who comes and goes and does terrible things behind the scenes. These two are not mutually exclusive nor contradictory.
Let me begin by stating, I walked out of the theatre after about 30 minutes. But before that I had to fight to keep my eyes open-literally. However I was jarred (constantly) awake by the use of the word, “fu*k” and iterations of it-over 40 times in the first half hour.
Every character used the word(s) within their bad acting, to “illustrate” and “highlight” and underline their feels-which are over the top and not believable.
An easy-to-spot sign of a bad writer(s) is how often (if at all) the the word, “fu*k” is used in a story. The more-the worse the writer. And Babylon averages on “fu*k” per minute (at least for the first thirty minutes”
Another indication of poor writing is the use of contemporary vernacular in period films (which I see/hear constantly). Babylon, writers have no clue of the vernacular of the period and (obviously-foolishly) think, “people spoke back then the same way we do today, as indicated by these two examples; 1, “mother fu*ker” was not used in the 1920-especially by white people (unless of course you’re in a poorly written film), 2, calling a man “bit*h” was also not a thing in the 1920’s but these writers (obviously) don’t know that.
And like La La Land, the acting-a product of the directing, is horrible. Well, actual the acting in Babylon is actually worse. Brad Pitt (whom I love as an actor) is at his absolute worst.” Margo Robbie (whom was wonderful opposite DiCaprio) is completely not believable.
Flea, his character and dialogue could not be worse-absolutely horrible and implacable.
Then there’s the “tit” scene; don’t know who the actress playing the director is but she deserves an award: “The-absolute-worst-performance-I’ve-seen-in-years-Award.”
She, like the others weren’t “acting,” they were reading the lines-of the terribly scribed script-terribly directed by a man who in my option has (only) one good film under his belt: Whiplash.
Lastly, the opening party scene (and most every other) are waaaaay toooo long.
The party scene labored on ad infinitum. It could and should have be (at least) eighty-five percent shorter. There’s no reason or need for endless-shots of (non stimulating) half and fully naked people dancing. (and I like naked people).
At times like these I wish I had four hands so I could give this piece of garbage four thumbs down.
BTW, I also walked out on La La Land.
Oh wow! Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
This movie is satirical entertainment at its finest. Love it or hate it, you’ll leave the theatre saying Wow! Two thumbs way up.
Glad you enjoyed!
I’ve loved a lot of Margot’s stuff. Wall Street, Z for Zachariah, I Tonya, the first Suicide Squad. But yeah she’s getting WAY over exposed. .
Oh she's an incredible talent. And she's good in this. The movie is just frantic.
Damn, I'm having a hard time deciding on whether to watch this film. Ultimately, I think I'll still see it because I'm a fan of Robbie's work on balance.
Let us know what you think!
Did you watch it bc I just did and I really enjoyed it.
And I detest long movies
4/5. It’s INSANE. BUT there were multiple times in last 20 min where I was like “now is this where they end it”? Cuz there were 6 different endings. I’ll just say this, when a character drives into the dark: end it there. My favorite scene involves PJ BYRNE let’s just say SHOUTING 😂
This is true, it does keep going. And going. Thanks Danny!
The thumbnail is cute. Look at you guys upping the production values! Werk, maw-maws!
Thanks for the feedback. We're always fine-tuning things around here.
I'm sick of love letters to cinema, they're so self-congratulatory coming from an industry that already is the definition of self-congratulatory.
Some are better than others!
This is an interesting one because Babylon seems to love cinema but hate the industry behind the art.
This is a definite "love it" or "hate it" kind of film! I'm in the camp of loving it. It was a mess, but I feel like that was intentional to speak to the times of cinema infancy. I'm probably wrong, but I like to think of it as intentional! Cheers!
Divisive for sure! Glad you enjoyed.
It bordered on pretentiousness and it was quite self indulgent in it's portrayal of early Hollywood transitioning from silent movies to the talkies.The fast pace was overkill.
It's a lot!
I personally really liked the musical score, and that’s the only thing I enjoyed about this movie.
This entire thing felt like a structural clone of Boogie Nights, all the way down to a tertiary character dying, cut to a title card denoting a new decade which will see the downfall for a lot of the characters. The difference is that Boogie Nights is great and made by somebody who understands that era of L.A. and porn, and Babylon is bad and made by a person far too mannered to be properly chaotic.
“Zero restraint” is not a good look on Chazelle.
Good points, thanks Conner!
I saw it last night and had such a great time. Yeah it's big and messy but I was never bored and that ending completely worked for me. The score was fantastic!
Sorry y'all didn't have a good time 😔
“Pizza, we get it, yum, boring, whatever. With all the toppings and it’s so over-indulgent and there’s so much of it. I would have preferred a smaller size with less toppings so I could really savor it but I have no idea what is even going on here. It probably wasn’t even prepared in the right type of oven. Have these people who made it even been to Italy? Like do they even like pizza, have they ever even at least tried a real Italian slice. Who needs all that crust. And mushrooms on pizza, I’m sorry but, yeah no, gross. This pizza could have been so much better but ultimately, it was just too much and it was trying way too hard.” Duralde
@@djstarsign Wtf?
Glad you enjoyed it!
I liked Chazelle's first film, Guy and Madeline on a Park Bench, but I couldn't stand Whiplash or La La Land. To follow up on Alonso's statement about a movie being made by someone who doesn't like movies, etc, Whiplash seemed to be made by a guy with no understanding or love of jazz. Buddy Rich was relentlessly brought up as some kind of icon; he was a great showman, and a good drummer, but didn't add much to jazz music. He was fun on talk shows, but was more flash than substance. And I guess there was some reason Chazelle felt the need to distort the Charlie Parker story; it's like he heard of the event tenth hand, like a game of telephone. And, God, "La La Land," man. What was that Weather Channel stuff the Gosling character was peddling? At least "Whiplash" had Freeman camping it up. I have to add that a now departed friend of mine was a jazz pianist who taught at NYU and Julliard and he despised Whiplash too.
I'll check out Babylon when it streams, or on disc, but it sounds interminable.
The refreshed graphics/thumbnail for this is great.
Do you like it? Thanks, we're trying some new things.
Late review as I just watched the movie but I loved it (I also didn’t love La La Land ). I actually loved the score and especially loved the scene where Margot Robbie is trying to transition to talking films. But as much as I loved it , I can’t really deny the criticism from those who didn’t enjoy it as it’s a really over the top movie and is at many times , obscene and outrageous.
the more I hear you guys describe this movie, the more I think that Damien Chazelle watched the ingenious Babylon Berlin on Netflix, out of Germany, and wanted to do something, anything, along those lines. and I can understand that impulse, because the first two seasons of that show are truly something special. It's from Tom Tykwer, who came up with Run Lola Run. Tom's method creating a narrative seems to be one of the more unique in global theater. It's a highly innovative show, like nothing you've ever seen before. But if you do give it a try to see what I'm on about, I would recommend using English dubs, but push past the first few minutes, because it's really hammy briefly, then it improves drastically.
Here I was hoping to explore the wild degenerate 20s and the reminder that the past was as clean cut in the way some people try to sell it.
Whiplash is my favorite film of all time so I’m reallllly hoping this is good.
Oh wow! You'll have to let us know.
This is why i always watch reviews before watching a movie. Cause the trailer for this film had me sooo hyped for the movie. But after seeing reviews of this movie i don't have to watch it. Thanks for helping me
We're here to save you three-plus hours!
As always, really fun and information! Two of the best critics around. I think your points about this film covering the same ground as a lot of other movies really came through in the trailers. These directors needs to find something else to say about Hollywood.
I honestly didn't really like La La Land. I felt like Emma Stone and Ryan Gosling were able to make a lot out of the nothing they were given. So if this is worse than that, I think it's a clear skip it for me.
Thanks for watching and for your kind words, Jennifer!
Nah La La Land is a good movie.
Fantastic movie! The greatest love letter in cinema with an extremely charismatic cast and a director where some says - including me - that he is next Spielberg. This is how epic movies looks like!
Won't be bothering. Thanks for firming up my concerns. Firming up? I'm going to outsource my posting in future.
Ha, thanks Alec!
Hoping someday to meet Christy or Alonso so they can tell me why I should have liked Whiplash more. (I have the disadvantage of being a professional musician with big band experience, and I couldn't suspend enough disbelief.)
Ha, we should be asking you about it! What did it get wrong?
@@BreakfastAllDay It's been awhile, but the main thing was that there's no circumstance where the bandleader (no matter how sociopathic he is) would replace the drummer who's been rehearsing for the competition with Andrew (and where was the reaction of the rest of the band to this?). I've considered that everything in the movie after Andrew's accident is his coma dream.
Timing: A few minutes later, I'm reading Stephen Fry (in the Times of London), answering a question about his "cultural life": [The film you walked out on] La La Land. Really didn’t see the point of it at all, I’m afraid. Mind you, I can’t think of many films that won, or were up for, best picture that I’ve ever really enjoyed or wanted to watch more than once. Felt the same about that awful one about the mean bully who kept being horrid to the drumming pupil. What was it called? Whiplash. Everyone seemed to love it.
@@at8ax That is a great theory!
I know that all scores can be relative, and I know the film was a real turn-off for you, but 3.4/2.5 for a film with "some great sequences", some "really good work" from several of the actors, "some great craft", etc. seems pretty harsh; especially when such crap/silly/juvenile stuff can get 4s, 5s, 6s from you two throughout the year. I'm still psyched to see it tomorrow night. Bummed you didn't like it. It is interesting that this film is in the 60-62 range on RT and Metacritic with 6 100's on the latter. I believe your 3.4/2.5's are the scathing-est of reviews that I've read/heard.
Almost every director makes a film about films film.
J Abrams made Super 8.
Tarantino made Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Scorsese made Hugo.
Spielberg made The Fabelmans.
Dante made Matinee.
Darabont made The Majestic.
Mendes made Empire of Light.
Coen Bros. made Hail, Caesar!
Burton made Ed Wood.
This film, is about half as good as the worst film on this list.
I'm glad I didn't read any reviews before going into this film, because I wanted to know it was ME who didn't enjoy the film.
I made my mind up as soon as the title card BABYLON was shown after 20 something minutes.. Then I was stuck there, past the point of no return.
THEN the end came, and I let out a "HA!" Not sure the director was aiming for that response.
Awesome! Found my holiday movie!💜
This movie skewers Hollywood and cinema. You guys just missed the point
Just watched this hot mess on Prime Video. It reminded me why I hate action films; action scenes are a whole lot of hollow noise. They're not the least bit exciting to me. An action sequence should be the consequence of the tension being built before it; it shouldn't be the whole movie. And that underground scene was just gross.
7:55 Now i want to see it
Ha, let us know if you do!
"He's just like a handsome nothing" LOL I hope poor Diego doesn't watch this. Still intrigued and heard enough wide ranging passionate reactions on both sides to check out (at home, not in theater). Also, never question your love for Magnolia.
_Magnolia_ is awesome!
It's not his fault, the character is underwritten!
Why they gotta do him like that lol
This movie will go down as a cult masterpiece no matter if woke hollyword and the academy hates it or not. It's a 10/10 movie.
Glad you enjoyed it.
"There's a lot of Kraft on display here." MM.... I think I'm having Mac'n'cheese tonight...
Interesting how many people don`t like the movie. Judging from what I read here: Most of them were put off by critics and didn`t see it.
From the reactions of people who DID see it I get a totally different picture. A lot of them think that this might become a classic. I tent to agree with them.
Glad it worked for you.
Holy cow, I just randomly stumbled upon this. I haven't seen anything from you guys since TYT.
So glad you found us! We have been here for a little over four years now.
I really disagree on this one. I found the movie to be this batshit cocaine laced fever dream about the transition from silent to talkies. and about all the consequences on the people. And i couldn’t take my eyes off of the screen. It was a chaotic, experimental, beautiful cinematic experience. And out of the 63 films I’ve seen this year I think it may have been my favorite
That's great! Disagreeing is fun.
Do you feel that a lot of films will be in folks top 10 and bottom 10 lists besides Babylon...because it seems that way?
I've been loving Damien Chazelle's work so I'm hoping I feel different about it than you two.
Let us know!
Finally “watched” it and that was one of the longest 3 hours of my life. I’d rather rewatch Avatar in its entirety over this, which is shocking
Oh wow!
So it’s not so much a joyous Baz Luhrmann film (as the trailer made it seem) as it is a joyless Michael Bay film? 😁
It's fun here and there.
All Michael Bay films are like having loud acid barfed into all of your senses at once.
Michael Bay movies are loud for no reason other than “it’s a Michael Bay movie.” You can argue that Chazelle is trying to assault your senses to convey what that 20’s lifestyle felt like, but it’s absolutely not everyone’s cup of tea.
Babylon is chazelles best so far, the one he has the most to actually say
Glad you enjoyed!
Well, if anything comes of this review it's the satisfaction of knowing of another person who is a fan of Magnolia. I love that movie! As to this one, jeez ..I might just watch it to catch that buzz but I'll be careful when I do
Ha, let us know! Thanks Ryan.
THIS is a really good (not great) movie, that has a lot of powerful points to make - including the excess and the unwillingness to adapt to change - even the defecating elephant, while definitely too long on screen , is a metaphor - and I won't even start on the fantastic score
I saw this 3 times in theatres 👀
That's nine hours of your life!
Was this the year of overly long, technically masterful yet ultimately disappointing films? As such, Top Gun Mav and EEAAO both really stand out!!!
They do indeed!
Kinda thought I would hate this movie and somehow I ended up loving it. That's how it goes sometimes.
Interesting!
During the depression era Coco Chanel was once asked to make the costumes for legendary Gloria Swanson but was quickly fired by the diva. Coco didn't get Hollywood and tried to dress the movie star in simple, boring clothes. What she failed to realize is that the audience wanted an escape. They wanted romance, glamour and excitement. NOT a reminder of the awfulness surrounding them. Just like this garbage of a movie. A critic once pointed out that the always beautiful Marilyn Monroe in the film 'The Prince & The Showgirl' acted modern and not of the time period. Just like everyone in this abysmal monstrosity. When you watch those old black and white films, from Jean Harlow to Greta Garbo, Fred Astaire and Clark Gable, the people in general. There was a certain way they spoke and behaved that was nothing like today. Grooming was an absolute must! But Margot Robbie's hair alone was an absolute disaster. Dry, flat and dull! Lifeless like this mockery of a movie, despite them laughing and having a great time. There was nothing fun about this. If I wanted decadence, I would have just watched reruns of Dynasty. If I wanted filth, I would have gone with porn, at least then I'd get a more pleasurable experience. Whenever a filmmaker tries to be bold and shocking, their really just trying desperately to get noticed. Cinema will always have stipulations and prohibitions with what one can and can't display on screen, so therefore if you cannot show everything then it's best that you not show it at all. I'll just go ahead and rewatch M3gan instead.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! And yes, M3GAN executes its concepts more effectively.
Just watched the trailer. I'm exhausted. I need a nap.
Indeed, it's a lot.
I agree with you guys…. Yet, I was never bored like I was watching avatar 2. I thought it was a mess but I was sort of entertained. The movie meanders, it’s long, bloated, overwrought, and self indulgent. I’m giving it a slight recommendation. Avatar sucked and it gave me a massive headache.
Ha, thanks Peter!
I find it extremely disheartening to hear film critics complain about there being multiple movies about the magic of the movies. They’re needed today more than ever. Even a bad one.
Not sure we're complaining, but rather making an observation. Thanks for watching!
Man. Can’t wait to see this!!!!
Let us know!
This review shows why you guys are where you are
If by "where you are," you mean Los Angeles, then yes. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
i love period pieces and old hollywood so ill be watching it........on streaming!
Did you ever end up checking it out?
I just saw the film and it felt like it was made in 1926 but that's about the only good thing about it it feels like Damien did his worst impression of a Quentin Tarantino film tried to make everything and then end up making nothing
Ha, very good point.
Hahaha! Loved this review! Thank you two for being brutally honest about the way this movie brutalized you. This is the type of review that saves me 3 hours of my life I would have lost. Also, sadly, this movie sounds like a great reason for the broader movie going public to stop going to the movies because who’s supposed to enjoy this?
Some critics love this movie! But we are not among them. Thanks for watching.
With its 18+ rating and odd holiday release date against Avatar 2, it’s definitely not trying to capture a broad movie-going audience.
When I first saw the trailer, my first thought was "This looks like a very expensive flop." I guess time will tell, but I'm definitely skipping this one.
I love the score. Definitely adding to spotify playlist
Glad you liked it more than we did!
I just watched it and was very entertained. 7.5/10
Personally i love the music…
You hated the score!?!?!? I was agreeing with you for alot of this review unil that point. You lost me. The score was one of the highlights of this film
We found it annoying. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, though!
For anyone that loves cinema or are self proclaimed cinephiles like myself, if you have a negative review of this film, I’m asking WHY/HOW?!!! This film is incredible and lives up to its name! On the cusp of transitioning from silent to “talkies”, Hollywood is transformed almost overnight, throwing out the old, making way for the “new”. To think, people back then thought sounds in film would be too gimmicky and wouldn’t last is just insane to think about lol. And did I just hear her say this movie was a bit tame?!! Um what film were you watching?! If it was tame, then it would’ve been pg13. Tame ha! I honestly think you didn’t get the film at all. It’s a period exploitation film. It’s as if you didn’t like the film because you expected it to be glossy and decadent and sophisticated when it’s showing you that the sophisticated are just as ugly if not uglier than what people think. You guys don’t know cinema at all. Went way over y’all’s heads smh 🤦♂️
I really like Chazelle, but 188 minutes in a theater of something not even approaching a "meh" doesn't sound very appealing.
Probably wait for streaming, thanks for the review and watching all the animal fluids for us you guys! 🙏
Ha, that's why we're here!
"This movie was meant to be the "Shock Of The Hour" type of film in order to be a (Reflection) of what is happening, even now in this era (with passages that also mirrors the Bible)...."Hollywood" is and always will be a (Real-Life) representation of BABYLON, NOTE: Trust me when I say that this film's depictions of (DRUGS & DEBAUCHERY) are far more (TAME) for today's audiences if you ask me."😉
The same people who complain that there's no original content and then go on to trash said movies are also the ones who flock to CGI franchise movies like Avatar and Marvel. I'm sure they're the same people who post memes that say "Stop making stupid people famous!" and then binge-watch the Kardashians.
We've never watched the Kardashians. But we appreciate you watching our review!
As soon as I saw the trailer for this my immediate thought was "Move stars in a self-indulgent circle jerk about how amazing movies and movie stars are." Sounds like I wasn't far off. lol
Kinda!
I love your reviews so much and I’m glad I disagree with you on this one. First time. I really enjoyed the chaos this movie is. Great performances and so much debauchery. But with that is a good story and I wonder if you give this movie a second watch, you’d have a different appreciation for it.
Thanks for watching, Kate! Appreciate your thoughts.
I loved it. It was too long, the last 30 min are not necessary.. but it’s amazing in my opinion
Great thumbnail ❤
Thanks Shawn, what do you think of this kind of thumbnail compared to how we usually do them?
Reading Alonso's review about how it starts with an elephant pooping, I just had to watch this video and see what the hoopla was about
It's unfortunate.
The snake fight scene is fantastic. I loved it. The acting, cinematography are excellent. But the movie is not good.
Ha, true!
I saw this on Paramount plus and everything all the time all whatever to me this is a lot better movie
Interesting, what did you like about it? Thanks for watching our review!
@BreakfastAllDay old film industry it is a little long though conveniences of watching at home I definitely prefer physical media though
BABYLON best music score.
The trailer looked dreadful, so not surprised. Also, La La Land was massively overrated, so I'm happy to see DC get pegged down a notch.
We've liked most of his films! Just not this one.
It's damien chazelle Ryan Gosling is my favorite and whiplash is the best movie of the last decade period and i like the wolf of wall street and maestro Tarantino's work once upon a time in hollywood so you know I'm sold and Margot robbie got robbed 4 i tonya and i am hyped 4 barbie can u guys tell me when will it release in india cz i live there by d way brilliant review merci muchas gracias thankyou
Thanks for watching! Times of India says July 21.
Sounds like the trailers inability to tell me what the movie is about or why I should see it (other than the cast) is an accurate reflection of the film.
It's about a lot!
@@BreakfastAllDay BTW happy to have finally found you folks again after WTF?! ended. I think it was when I was searching for a Tár review (&/or other ‘smaller’ release) that I clicked on a vid from this oddly named/logo’d channel that I’d recently began seeing pop up in searches etc. and then ‘OH!, hey, I know these kids!!!’.
@@dkarras So happy you found us too!
I feel so vindicated for hating this! They were talking this being a "star-making role' for Diego and I didn't get that either. Just because more people will know who he is next time?!
Ha, thanks Bob!
He was very good. The movie is just really bad.
There's already a good movie from this period, Good Morning Babylon by the Taviani brothers.
I was the only one that thought La La Land was overrated as hell. Guess everyone is feeling the pain with this one.
It was a fun, well-made escape. Thanks for your thoughts!
Please do a spoiler review. Would love your thoughts on the ending.
Looking Mighty Handsome these days, Alonzo. Christie, Da Bombshell always
Aww, you're too kind, thanks.
You're not turning me off one bit from watching this decadent car crash. Honestly you had me by the third time you guys used orgy as a discriptive 🤣
Ha, let us know!
I don’t know why these two are being so grumpy about this movie. It’s not terrible, it’s just kind of a frantic and oppressive experience, but it’s not joyless, it’s just weird. I guess that’s the subjectivity of film.
It has its moments! We are not grumpy 😄 Thanks for watching.
So sad. La La Land is in my top ten films. I was looking forward to this when it was first announced a few years ago, but from the first trailer I was 1000% off the Damien Chazelle train. Not one moment of any scene from this looks appealing. Oh well. He should have saved this sort of thing for his seventh or eighth film when his career could have endured a self-indulgent misfire.
The La La Land soundtrack is probably my favorite soundtrack of all time, and in my top five albums of all time period. I loved the music from First Man. The music here was a complete miss from beginning to end.
Do you plan to see it ever, do you think?
@@BreakfastAllDay Pretty sure this will be a lifetime skip. I don’t even get to see all the movies I WANT to see, I’m certainly not going to make time for a movie that looks like everything I don’t want to see in a movie. I’ll just watch La La Land again if I need a Damien Chazelle/Justin Hurwitz fix. Hopefully Babylon is their “1941” and they’ll be suitably chastised and go back to making films audiences will like.
From your review it makes me wonder if this movie ever got test screened?
I was the only one in the theater😂😂 no surprise it bombed at the box office. I live in a South border town people don't like this type of film.
I haven't seen the film, but the concept of Hollywood making a film that is so self-aggrandizing, where Hollywood fawns over the glitz and glamour of Hollywood, just seems so conceited. It would be like going to a party where the host spends the entire time bragging about his exploits instead of entertaining his guests.
Ha, interesting point. Thanks Drake!
It’s not that. It paints Hollywood in a pretty bad light, actually. But it’s also a lot of other things. I can see why people are sick of this type of films, though.