I sometimes assume everyone in the world has more common sense than they probably do, so I want to say this - Make sure to read the warnings on any gas heater as far as safety and use in small spaces. This heater needs to be in an area that is well ventilated and you always need to monitor for carbon monoxide when in use. 125,000 Propane Maxheat heater - amzn.to/3BIkEki 30-68,000 BTU version - amzn.to/41WQXXf
Common used to mean something different. Less a "bare mininum" than literally "lowest of the low" as in commoners. Very judgy. The aristocrats weren't using it as a compliment. So you wouldn't know it, but Common Sense has nothing to do with reasonable expectations and has always meant the lowest expectation possible, not how most people would see it. (Though back in the day "lowest of the low" was synonymous with typical or the majority, at least by royalty.)
Have you seen or talked to the America public? Come on man. If their smart phone doesn’t tell them what to do they can’t function in the real world Assume nothing !
Wait a minute. I believe the byproduct of burning propane is water and carbon dioxide- not carbon monoxide. In a clean burn. That is why propane is used in ventless interior fire places.
Have tried all these heaters and personally the diesel heater is my favourite to use for running costs and it’s a dry heat compared to the dampness gas heaters create, the 1st diesel heater I bought 5+ years ago is still running great 👍
Thank you for your comment! Diesel heaters and torpedo heaters are designed for different scenarios. Our torpedo heater, with a heating capacity of 68,000 to 125,000 BTU, is highly efficient and perfect for large, open spaces. Compared to diesel heaters, our propane heater produces minimal odor during operation. Additionally, diesel flow can be affected in colder temperatures, starting to gel or crystallize around -15°C to -5°C (5°F to 23°F), requiring additives to maintain flow. Propane, on the other hand, remains highly effective in extreme cold, with a boiling point of -42°C (-44°F), making it suitable for environments as low as -40°C. It's a reliable choice for consistent heating in harsh winter conditions! Thank you for your comment again.
@@InoKraft propane needs a certain total volume to keep it boiling off inside a tank, without it freezing externally and causing pressure loss. the more you use, the larger size tank kept at over 30% capacity is needed. forget little 20lbs cylinders, if you want 100K+ btu for long periods, better start with 500lbs pairs or larger.
I use my 80,000 BTU forced air kerosene/diesel heater to heat my shop when I want to work out there. It heats it up to working temps in about 15 minutes, then I shut it down and use my overhead electric heater to maintain the heat for the rest of the day. I've had this setup in bnb all of my garages and it's worked great for me. The kerosene/diesel is fast and efficient with no smell when using diesel instead of kerosene.
I bought this torpedo heater for my big workshop, and it's been amazing! Heats up really quickly, and I love that there's no smell compared to diesel heaters. Definitely a great investment!
Thank you so much for choosing our product! We're thrilled to hear that you find it very useful-it truly means the world to us. If you have any questions or suggestions while using it, please don’t hesitate to let us know. We're always here to ensure you have the best experience. Looking forward to serving you again! 😃
I also have a small torpedo heater, but have switched to a diesel heater due to cost. I could run the propane torpedo for about 5 hours on a 20lb tank. The diesel heater runs about 8 or 9 hours on a gallon of diesel.
I have a similar propane turbo heater just a different brand. My go too! Heats my garage quick. 22'+28' 125,000 btu no smell like the kerosene turbo heaters
My father had an Esso/Exxon gas station repair shop when I was growing up in the 60's & 70's and the farthest bay from the furnace never got warm, so we used a kerosene torpedo heater in that bay. Sounded like a jet engine, but it did throw some heat.
I have used the kerosene version of the torpedo heater back in the 1980's, and it was great. the smell was not bad and the heat was enough to heat my one car garage very easily and quickly.
I used to spray lacquer in new construction withe the kerosene version in an adjacent room. 7yrs and didn't die, we would have to walk out when our eyes were burning. Men have to do whatever it takes to keep a job going.
I have used a much larger version kerosene torpedo heater than the 125000 BTU propane heater that you showed here. The most important thing you need to do when using any type of fuel based heaters, is also use a CO2 detector so that you know when to open the doors and windows to let fresh air in. By the time you start feeling drowsy, or developing a headache, CO2 poisoning is already setting in.
20 lb. propane tank + clamp on Infrared heater = 7k btu or 32k btu.... no noise, burns clean, heats items not air, use inside with ease. I've used these Re-verber-ray ones for over 30 years. I've installed them in shops/garages mounted in the ceiling. Seem to be very safe and reliable.
I bought the Silvia Chinese diesel heater last winter and it works great, I can even mix my old used motor and diesel oil from oil changes from all my equipment around the homestead and mix it with 50% diesel and it burns just as hot and clean and even longer. Cost me under 100 bucks last year. I'm looking into getting a propane heater for a 20 lb tank like the Mr heater but one that just screws directly on top tbr tank so I can carry it around the shop. I looked into a jet propane heater and while they heat fast it won't do much good for me in a power outage situation since it still needs AC to run the fan.
if you need very high output without power, look at the propane convection heaters. (vertical round tube with high output burner inside). of course they have variable size output models.
I've had all these heaters. CLEAN that wall heater. They were used in 100,000s of mobile homes and they work well and are VERY efficient when clean. Even on a RUclips video the dirt and dust shows through. As far as the turbo heaters go, I used one [250,000 - kerosine] to keep warm under a Mustang II while doing a clutch job in my driveway. It warped the plastic radiator so after buying a new one, I made $1.75 on a clutch job.
I've use a 30 to 60,000 BTU torpedo heater in my three car garage and I can work in a T-shirt in zero degree temperatures. A tank of propane lasts for hours too.
The old wall heater is the only safe heat type to use in areas where you could potentially have gasoline or other vapors which could either ignite or cause health issues. The reason is that the wall heater has a vent stack and heat exchanger, whereas all the others are direct fire appliances. Have your old wall heater checked and either use it as is, or replace it with a new one….they’re still made!
The healthiest heater of the bunch is also the most efficient and that's that Redbox diesel heater. Those go 14 hours nonstop and only burn 1 gallon of diesel
Great video. I had a torpedo heater,used kerosene and it was crazy loud and you usually ended up with a headache. Now I can’t find kerosene anywhere. Propane creates dampness and you start to see rust on your tools rapidly.electric units just don’t cut it. I’m always concerned about carbon monoxide !!!
The diesel heater is definitely the way to go. Undisturbed oxygen levels in the room, no carbon monoxide or extra humidity to deal with and anywhere from $.50 - $2 a night (ran all night). I use mine on max or near max while camping for 8 hours and I’m only down 1/4 - 1/3 of a gallon. Those little buddy heaters use a disposable tank every 2 hours while on high, so that’s essentially $1-$2 an hour depending on where you get your tanks. Diesel heaters also run perfectly on kerosene which can be obtained in bulk for less than diesel per gallon. It’s a no-brainer for me. If 110v ac access isn’t an issue, an electric heater might take the cake for small insulated spaces, but the extremely low heat output compared to the diesel still costs $1.20 for 8 hours at a conservative $.10/kwh running at 1500w.
Thank you for your comment! Diesel heaters and torpedo heaters are designed for different scenarios. Our torpedo heater, with a heating capacity of 68,000 to 125,000 BTU, is highly efficient and perfect for large, open spaces. Compared to diesel heaters, our propane heater produces minimal odor during operation. Additionally, diesel flow can be affected in colder temperatures, starting to gel or crystallize around -15°C to -5°C (5°F to 23°F), requiring additives to maintain flow. Propane, on the other hand, remains highly effective in extreme cold, with a boiling point of -42°C (-44°F), making it suitable for environments as low as -40°C. It's a reliable choice for consistent heating in harsh winter conditions! Thank you for your comment again.
@@InoKraft Thank you, and understood! One quick response though… kerosene as I mentioned can be burned in these heaters and that starts to gel at -40 unlike diesel at just under freezing.
My lil vevor 8kwh diesel heater is awesome for me and if you hook it up properly and aren't a slob when ou fill it, I don't find it smelly or messy at all and fuel lasts alot longer. I do have a propane cannon as well but I find the tank almost always frosts up and isint very hot after continuous use
In the Air Force, we used gasoline powered heaters that put out 400,000 BTUs. Basically a gasoline engine running a fan, powering a gasoline fueled heaters that put, thru a 12 inch duct. Ten gallons of fuel would power it for 12 hours.
Anyone had the experience to work around a 250,000,000 b t u boiler. Running on natural gas or fuel oil. They make your body shake, along with every thing else. Imagine two of them and 100,000 b t u hot water heater for 8 very large buildings. I loved it. Not the 5 to 10,000 monthly's gas bill . I think for a house and grauge. Boiler heater in the north is the best as it's quite and don't dry out your skin.
the main problem with propane heaters is the amount of moisture they contribute to the air, especially when oversized to heat the shop fast. it will cause condensation on everything, especially metals and your tools, that makes everything wet and rapidly flash rusts or starts to grow mold. of course there's always CO emissions to worry about. a more long term solution is staying with direct vented (wall heater like you have) or other direct vented type.
You can still get parts for that wall heater although it is old. It will cover two separate rooms as their is a cover on the backside that can be removed. But to run on propane you must use a propane regulator and change the orface as well. Other wise it will not work right.
I wish my diesel torpedo heater had a thermostat. As you know your sweating or freezing with a small window of being comfortable. With all the wood you burn I'd think about adding one more stove.
I have one of those propane heater (turbo) and every time I opened my tool box, my tools were covered with moisture resulting in rust. I have switched to a kerosene/diesel turbo heater. Much better.
How long will it run on 1 tank??? I have a 40,000 btu propane torpedo heater. But on a 20lb grill tank, it will only run for about 8 hours or so. Kinda high if using it on a daily basis. I only use it to raise the temp in my insulated pole barn, which stays around 50 f, raise to 55 usually, as I only run it for about an hour at a time. It does give good heat that you can stand in front of to warm back up after being outside and such though.
The Buddy Heater will run for 3 hours on high on a 1 pound tank or it will run for 22 hours on a 20 pound grill tank if you buy the extra hose. You don't need a separate regulator to run on the 20 pound tank but it is NOT recommended to use 30 lb, 100 lb or larger tanks with a buddy heater. It is also suggested to use a filter available from the manufacturer when using a 20 pound tank. It screws on between the hose and the heater. I ruined one because the place where I got my propane had some kind of oily residue mixed in with the liquid gas and it gummed up the internal plumbing.
Torpedoes are great, but you get sick of that noise real quick working around them. Also recomend getting a larger propane tank like a 40 or 100 because they suck so much gas at full burn that the tank starts to freeze and doesn't run as well.
Yeah the diesel heater is the only sealed combustion heater in the bunch. Done right, it's as safe as your home furnace. The open flame propane and kero/diesel heaters make it rain in my shed and electric is out of the question.
Project Farm recently did a comparison of various diesel fired heaters and the Vevor produced less than 100 parts (37) per million of combustible gases running on straight diesel. Video title: This Heater Can Save Lives During Power Outages!
If the flame rolls out it's trying to get it's combustion air meaning it's normal air path is blocked. Don't use it until it's cleaned and it should be fine afterwards. Almost all heaters of the installed type have some form of roll out sensor for protection
How do you deal with all the humidity that propane heaters release? I live in a similar climate to yours. My shop was built on a budget so it has no insulation. The walls are metal siding. I think if I used a propane heater, I'd be rusting out the siding in no time.
I don’t know as I would leave that unattended for any amount of time maybe if I was thawing pipes under a house but I wouldn’t trust the thermostat to regulate that thing plus it being torpedo heater with an open flame it’s just something you should never walk away from really
In my case each heater has its place - if your on a job with crews then that propane heater could be a better choice - I burn wood for heat as my primary heat source - living in a rural area there is little to no cost for wood - also I use harbor freight electric saws with a generator - With electric saws the chain travels slow so it doesn't stretch - I've had chains last through 6 or eight cords of wood - also with the extended warranty a 14 amp saw the plastic drive gear strips out or even if the chains chisels have been filed down so much that there braking off - Harbor freight will change the saw out with the extended warranty - Propane has 90000 BTUs per gallon so that heater at full out put is going to burn a tank up every 3 hrs or so - .they say diesel has 135000 BTUs per gallon but in reality it's about 128000 BTUs a gallon - Diesel parking heaters do have oder but I've always worked on diesel generators for 50 yrs in the offshore oilfields so I'm ok with the smell of diesel and oil - Electric heater are very expensive to operate and there is no natural gas pipelines were I live at - Natural gas is the best option - I'm just stating facts here - each has to decide what is best for them
Ok, here is the spiel on propane indoors. it's just plain chemistry. When propane is burned with plenty of oxygen the products are water and carbon DIOXIDE. Both of these are safe in reasonable concentrations. The safety problem is when the oxygen gets too low then the products of combustion are water and carbon MONOXIDE, which is highly toxic to air breathing animals like humans. Of course the other danger with propane is that it is heavier than air. A propane leak will travel to the lowest area available and pool. When it reaches a concentration where it will burn all it needs is a spark and you has the makings of a bomb essentially. So, keep the plumbing tight and plenty of oxygen (fresh air) and life is good. a carbon monoxide monitor is a good idea with any heater that burns. And a smoke detector is a good idea with any heater. Stay warm AND alive!
I have a diesel heater like that. Use it in the house when it’s really cold. Either of these would be way too noisy for me. I put my diesel heater back in the garage. 😣
The salamander, or torpedo heater as you call it is as loud as a crematorium oven, can't listen to that all day. Best heater is a gas heater whether it's propane or natural gas and hang it from the corner of the ceiling, they are quiet and efficient.
For a really large, uninsulated space, the salamander style propane heaters deliver the most BTU's, but that means they also have the highest operating costs. Each of those solutions works well, for different use cases. The "Ultimate" shop heater is a mini-split, presuming you have a well-insulated space to work with. You get more BTU's per-dollar with a mini-split than any of the models you show in this video.
@@SSLFamilyDad - You're thinking old-school mini-splits. I installed one this year that will work down to zero and even below. It doesn't work WELL, but it continues to provide heat at zero degrees Fahrenheit. In your situation, replacing (or servicing?) the wall heater and installing a mini-split would address all of your heat AND cooling needs.
Yes! It is absolutely an issue. Airborne sawdust is HIGHLY combustible‼️ in fact airborne sawdust is EXPLOSIVELY combustible in a closed space with an open flame. There should be no open flame heaters in wood shops. You’re asking for trouble. Use oil filled portable heaters instead. You can get them for $50. I’ve been using them for over 25 years. They take the chill off the room and are more efficient than fan blower type heaters because once the oil is hot it keeps radiating heat.
Early munitions engineers/chemists used containers of sawdust surrounding explosive charges to make them 50-100% more effective by way of utilizing the otherwise wasted oxygen in the surrounding area to rapidly oxidize it, adding extra heat and pressure to the explosion. Thermobaric bombs they call them.
The problem with any of those heaters inside of if you don't have a vent you're dumping all the byproducts of combustion in your area not only the carbon monoxide you're dumping tremendous amounts of moisture in the air and everything that's cold the dew point is going to sweat not a good thing that's okay for temporary but you don't want to be breathing that stuff put put yourself about 175,000 BTU vented furnace cuz you're going to lose some up the chimney but you're going to be healthier and your stuff won't sweat and I don't care what you say you'll smell I've been anywhere I've been around those heaters and people end up smelling
Dude NO Ryobi Torpedo Heater They Run on Both Electric and Battery So If You Lose Power You Can Still Run It and They are Very Quiet Compared to A Normal One
You shook the little bottle before using, passed on shaking the big bottle. Isnt your reason for shaking a one size fits all procedure, or are you just crazy that way?
Do your self a favour and get a carbon monoxide detector and install it correctly in your shed, then observe how many times that heater sets the alarm off. You'll soon stop using that heater in that small room.
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I sometimes assume everyone in the world has more common sense than they probably do, so I want to say this - Make sure to read the warnings on any gas heater as far as safety and use in small spaces. This heater needs to be in an area that is well ventilated and you always need to monitor for carbon monoxide when in use.
125,000 Propane Maxheat heater - amzn.to/3BIkEki
30-68,000 BTU version - amzn.to/41WQXXf
You are TOTALLY CORRECT on the common sense my friend
Common used to mean something different. Less a "bare mininum" than literally "lowest of the low" as in commoners. Very judgy. The aristocrats weren't using it as a compliment. So you wouldn't know it, but Common Sense has nothing to do with reasonable expectations and has always meant the lowest expectation possible, not how most people would see it. (Though back in the day "lowest of the low" was synonymous with typical or the majority, at least by royalty.)
Have you seen or talked to the America public? Come on man. If their smart phone doesn’t tell them what to do they can’t function in the real world Assume nothing !
Wait a minute. I believe the byproduct of burning propane is water and carbon dioxide- not carbon monoxide. In a clean burn. That is why propane is used in ventless interior fire places.
Have tried all these heaters and personally the diesel heater is my favourite to use for running costs and it’s a dry heat compared to the dampness gas heaters create, the 1st diesel heater I bought 5+ years ago is still running great 👍
Thank you for your comment! Diesel heaters and torpedo heaters are designed for different scenarios. Our torpedo heater, with a heating capacity of 68,000 to 125,000 BTU, is highly efficient and perfect for large, open spaces. Compared to diesel heaters, our propane heater produces minimal odor during operation.
Additionally, diesel flow can be affected in colder temperatures, starting to gel or crystallize around -15°C to -5°C (5°F to 23°F), requiring additives to maintain flow. Propane, on the other hand, remains highly effective in extreme cold, with a boiling point of -42°C (-44°F), making it suitable for environments as low as -40°C. It's a reliable choice for consistent heating in harsh winter conditions! Thank you for your comment again.
@@InoKraft propane needs a certain total volume to keep it boiling off inside a tank, without it freezing externally and causing pressure loss. the more you use, the larger size tank kept at over 30% capacity is needed. forget little 20lbs cylinders, if you want 100K+ btu for long periods, better start with 500lbs pairs or larger.
I use my 80,000 BTU forced air kerosene/diesel heater to heat my shop when I want to work out there. It heats it up to working temps in about 15 minutes, then I shut it down and use my overhead electric heater to maintain the heat for the rest of the day. I've had this setup in bnb all of my garages and it's worked great for me. The kerosene/diesel is fast and efficient with no smell when using diesel instead of kerosene.
I bought this torpedo heater for my big workshop, and it's been amazing! Heats up really quickly, and I love that there's no smell compared to diesel heaters. Definitely a great investment!
Thank you so much for choosing our product! We're thrilled to hear that you find it very useful-it truly means the world to us. If you have any questions or suggestions while using it, please don’t hesitate to let us know. We're always here to ensure you have the best experience. Looking forward to serving you again! 😃
I also have a small torpedo heater, but have switched to a diesel heater due to cost. I could run the propane torpedo for about 5 hours on a 20lb tank. The diesel heater runs about 8 or 9 hours on a gallon of diesel.
I have a similar propane turbo heater just a different brand. My go too! Heats my garage quick. 22'+28' 125,000 btu no smell like the kerosene turbo heaters
My father had an Esso/Exxon gas station repair shop when I was growing up in the 60's & 70's and the farthest bay from the furnace never got warm, so we used a kerosene torpedo heater in that bay. Sounded like a jet engine, but it did throw some heat.
I have used the kerosene version of the torpedo heater back in the 1980's, and it was great. the smell was not bad and the heat was enough to heat my one car garage very easily and quickly.
I used to spray lacquer in new construction withe the kerosene version in an adjacent room. 7yrs and didn't die, we would have to walk out when our eyes were burning. Men have to do whatever it takes to keep a job going.
I have used a much larger version kerosene torpedo heater than the 125000 BTU propane heater that you showed here. The most important thing you need to do when using any type of fuel based heaters, is also use a CO2 detector so that you know when to open the doors and windows to let fresh air in. By the time you start feeling drowsy, or developing a headache, CO2 poisoning is already setting in.
20 lb. propane tank + clamp on Infrared heater = 7k btu or 32k btu.... no noise, burns clean, heats items not air, use inside with ease. I've used these Re-verber-ray ones for over 30 years. I've installed them in shops/garages mounted in the ceiling. Seem to be very safe and reliable.
I bought the Silvia Chinese diesel heater last winter and it works great, I can even mix my old used motor and diesel oil from oil changes from all my equipment around the homestead and mix it with 50% diesel and it burns just as hot and clean and even longer. Cost me under 100 bucks last year. I'm looking into getting a propane heater for a 20 lb tank like the Mr heater but one that just screws directly on top tbr tank so I can carry it around the shop. I looked into a jet propane heater and while they heat fast it won't do much good for me in a power outage situation since it still needs AC to run the fan.
if you need very high output without power, look at the propane convection heaters. (vertical round tube with high output burner inside). of course they have variable size output models.
I've had all these heaters.
CLEAN that wall heater. They were used in 100,000s of mobile homes and they work well and are VERY efficient when clean.
Even on a RUclips video the dirt and dust shows through.
As far as the turbo heaters go, I used one [250,000 - kerosine] to keep warm under a Mustang II while doing a clutch job in my driveway. It warped the plastic radiator so after buying a new one, I made $1.75 on a clutch job.
I've use a 30 to 60,000 BTU torpedo heater in my three car garage and I can work in a T-shirt in zero degree temperatures. A tank of propane lasts for hours too.
The old wall heater is the only safe heat type to use in areas where you could potentially have gasoline or other vapors which could either ignite or cause health issues. The reason is that the wall heater has a vent stack and heat exchanger, whereas all the others are direct fire appliances. Have your old wall heater checked and either use it as is, or replace it with a new one….they’re still made!
Despite the noise, there is something satisfying about heating your shop with a jet engine.
The healthiest heater of the bunch is also the most efficient and that's that Redbox diesel heater. Those go 14 hours nonstop and only burn 1 gallon of diesel
Great video. I had a torpedo heater,used kerosene and it was crazy loud and you usually ended up with a headache. Now I can’t find kerosene anywhere. Propane creates dampness and you start to see rust on your tools rapidly.electric units just don’t cut it. I’m always concerned about carbon monoxide !!!
The diesel heater is definitely the way to go. Undisturbed oxygen levels in the room, no carbon monoxide or extra humidity to deal with and anywhere from $.50 - $2 a night (ran all night). I use mine on max or near max while camping for 8 hours and I’m only down 1/4 - 1/3 of a gallon. Those little buddy heaters use a disposable tank every 2 hours while on high, so that’s essentially $1-$2 an hour depending on where you get your tanks. Diesel heaters also run perfectly on kerosene which can be obtained in bulk for less than diesel per gallon. It’s a no-brainer for me. If 110v ac access isn’t an issue, an electric heater might take the cake for small insulated spaces, but the extremely low heat output compared to the diesel still costs $1.20 for 8 hours at a conservative $.10/kwh running at 1500w.
Thank you for your comment! Diesel heaters and torpedo heaters are designed for different scenarios. Our torpedo heater, with a heating capacity of 68,000 to 125,000 BTU, is highly efficient and perfect for large, open spaces. Compared to diesel heaters, our propane heater produces minimal odor during operation.
Additionally, diesel flow can be affected in colder temperatures, starting to gel or crystallize around -15°C to -5°C (5°F to 23°F), requiring additives to maintain flow. Propane, on the other hand, remains highly effective in extreme cold, with a boiling point of -42°C (-44°F), making it suitable for environments as low as -40°C. It's a reliable choice for consistent heating in harsh winter conditions! Thank you for your comment again.
@@InoKraft Thank you, and understood! One quick response though… kerosene as I mentioned can be burned in these heaters and that starts to gel at -40 unlike diesel at just under freezing.
My lil vevor 8kwh diesel heater is awesome for me and if you hook it up properly and aren't a slob when ou fill it, I don't find it smelly or messy at all and fuel lasts alot longer. I do have a propane cannon as well but I find the tank almost always frosts up and isint very hot after continuous use
In the Air Force, we used gasoline powered heaters that put out 400,000 BTUs. Basically a gasoline engine running a fan, powering a gasoline fueled heaters that put, thru a 12 inch duct. Ten gallons of fuel would power it for 12 hours.
My torpedo heater doesn't have a thermostat, but I still love it.
Some can use a plug in thermostat.
Anyone had the experience to work around a 250,000,000 b t u boiler. Running on natural gas or fuel oil. They make your body shake, along with every thing else. Imagine two of them and 100,000 b t u hot water heater for 8 very large buildings. I loved it. Not the 5 to 10,000 monthly's gas bill . I think for a house and grauge. Boiler heater in the north is the best as it's quite and don't dry out your skin.
the main problem with propane heaters is the amount of moisture they contribute to the air, especially when oversized to heat the shop fast. it will cause condensation on everything, especially metals and your tools, that makes everything wet and rapidly flash rusts or starts to grow mold. of course there's always CO emissions to worry about.
a more long term solution is staying with direct vented (wall heater like you have) or other direct vented type.
You can still get parts for that wall heater although it is old. It will cover two separate rooms as their is a cover on the backside that can be removed. But to run on propane you must use a propane regulator and change the orface as well. Other wise it will not work right.
I wish my diesel torpedo heater had a thermostat. As you know your sweating or freezing with a small window of being comfortable. With all the wood you burn I'd think about adding one more stove.
I have one of those propane heater (turbo) and every time I opened my tool box, my tools were covered with moisture resulting in rust. I have switched to a kerosene/diesel turbo heater. Much better.
The beginning of the video looks like my quest for heating the shop.
How long will it run on 1 tank??? I have a 40,000 btu propane torpedo heater. But on a 20lb grill tank, it will only run for about 8 hours or so. Kinda high if using it on a daily basis. I only use it to raise the temp in my insulated pole barn, which stays around 50 f, raise to 55 usually, as I only run it for about an hour at a time. It does give good heat that you can stand in front of to warm back up after being outside and such though.
The Buddy Heater will run for 3 hours on high on a 1 pound tank or it will run for 22 hours on a 20 pound grill tank if you buy the extra hose. You don't need a separate regulator to run on the 20 pound tank but it is NOT recommended to use 30 lb, 100 lb or larger tanks with a buddy heater. It is also suggested to use a filter available from the manufacturer when using a 20 pound tank. It screws on between the hose and the heater. I ruined one because the place where I got my propane had some kind of oily residue mixed in with the liquid gas and it gummed up the internal plumbing.
Torpedoes are great, but you get sick of that noise real quick working around them. Also recomend getting a larger propane tank like a 40 or 100 because they suck so much gas at full burn that the tank starts to freeze and doesn't run as well.
Yeah the diesel heater is the only sealed combustion heater in the bunch. Done right, it's as safe as your home furnace.
The open flame propane and kero/diesel heaters make it rain in my shed and electric is out of the question.
Project Farm recently did a comparison of various diesel fired heaters and the Vevor produced less than 100 parts (37) per million of combustible gases running on straight diesel.
Video title: This Heater Can Save Lives During Power Outages!
If the flame rolls out it's trying to get it's combustion air meaning it's normal air path is blocked. Don't use it until it's cleaned and it should be fine afterwards. Almost all heaters of the installed type have some form of roll out sensor for protection
How do you deal with all the humidity that propane heaters release? I live in a similar climate to yours. My shop was built on a budget so it has no insulation. The walls are metal siding. I think if I used a propane heater, I'd be rusting out the siding in no time.
I have the same question. My dad wants a heater for the barn, but moisture is a problem.
I don’t know as I would leave that unattended for any amount of time maybe if I was thawing pipes under a house but I wouldn’t trust the thermostat to regulate that thing plus it being torpedo heater with an open flame it’s just something you should never walk away from really
125,000 BTU heaters are for heating entire houses NOT small workshops.
In my case each heater has its place - if your on a job with crews then that propane heater could be a better choice -
I burn wood for heat as my primary heat source - living in a rural area there is little to no cost for wood - also I use harbor freight electric saws with a generator -
With electric saws the chain travels slow so it doesn't stretch - I've had chains last through 6 or eight cords of wood - also with the extended warranty a 14 amp saw the plastic drive gear strips out or even if the chains chisels have been filed down so much that there braking off -
Harbor freight will change the saw out with the extended warranty -
Propane has 90000 BTUs per gallon so that heater at full out put is going to burn a tank up every 3 hrs or so -
.they say diesel has 135000 BTUs per gallon but in reality it's about 128000 BTUs a gallon -
Diesel parking heaters do have oder but I've always worked on diesel generators for 50 yrs in the offshore oilfields so I'm ok with the smell of diesel and oil -
Electric heater are very expensive to operate and there is no natural gas pipelines were I live at -
Natural gas is the best option -
I'm just stating facts here - each has to decide what is best for them
So much for keeping your sanity... can it get any louder 😂. Is it actually indoor rated, that doesn't seem right.
The VAL 6 heater is better.
Ok, here is the spiel on propane indoors. it's just plain chemistry. When propane is burned with plenty of oxygen the products are water and carbon DIOXIDE. Both of these are safe in reasonable concentrations. The safety problem is when the oxygen gets too low then the products of combustion are water and carbon MONOXIDE, which is highly toxic to air breathing animals like humans. Of course the other danger with propane is that it is heavier than air. A propane leak will travel to the lowest area available and pool. When it reaches a concentration where it will burn all it needs is a spark and you has the makings of a bomb essentially. So, keep the plumbing tight and plenty of oxygen (fresh air) and life is good. a carbon monoxide monitor is a good idea with any heater that burns. And a smoke detector is a good idea with any heater. Stay warm AND alive!
I have a diesel heater like that. Use it in the house when it’s really cold. Either of these would be way too noisy for me. I put my diesel heater back in the garage. 😣
I’m leaning towards a diesel heater solely because a torpedo heater is just plain too noisy.
The salamander, or torpedo heater as you call it is as loud as a crematorium oven, can't listen to that all day. Best heater is a gas heater whether it's propane or natural gas and hang it from the corner of the ceiling, they are quiet and efficient.
For a really large, uninsulated space, the salamander style propane heaters deliver the most BTU's, but that means they also have the highest operating costs. Each of those solutions works well, for different use cases. The "Ultimate" shop heater is a mini-split, presuming you have a well-insulated space to work with. You get more BTU's per-dollar with a mini-split than any of the models you show in this video.
That would be worth a compare for sure. However I would be skeptical that a mini split could heat that well in sub 20 degree weather
@@SSLFamilyDad - You're thinking old-school mini-splits. I installed one this year that will work down to zero and even below. It doesn't work WELL, but it continues to provide heat at zero degrees Fahrenheit. In your situation, replacing (or servicing?) the wall heater and installing a mini-split would address all of your heat AND cooling needs.
I have both. 40,000 btu propane and kerosene and for my garage, the kerosene heats way better.
It amazes me with how many people use unventilated propane heaters in an enclosed space.
The one problem with propane is it leaves moisture as a by product. If the place is closed it can't
get rid of the water. Dehumidifier is required.
I have one of those propane heaters.. otherwise no cons except the propane is damn expensive here.
I put a pellet stove in my garage it works great
propane equals water, 0.81 gallons of water per gallon of propane. I did a video and you can see what the water did to my garage door.
I would be concerned about the sawdust using it my wood shop. Is that an issue?
Yes! It is absolutely an issue. Airborne sawdust is HIGHLY combustible‼️ in fact airborne sawdust is EXPLOSIVELY combustible in a closed space with an open flame.
There should be no open flame heaters in wood shops. You’re asking for trouble.
Use oil filled portable heaters instead. You can get them for $50. I’ve been using them for over 25 years. They take the chill off the room and are more efficient than fan blower type heaters because once the oil is hot it keeps radiating heat.
Early munitions engineers/chemists used containers of sawdust surrounding explosive charges to make them 50-100% more effective by way of utilizing the otherwise wasted oxygen in the surrounding area to rapidly oxidize it, adding extra heat and pressure to the explosion. Thermobaric bombs they call them.
The problem with any of those heaters inside of if you don't have a vent you're dumping all the byproducts of combustion in your area not only the carbon monoxide you're dumping tremendous amounts of moisture in the air and everything that's cold the dew point is going to sweat not a good thing that's okay for temporary but you don't want to be breathing that stuff put put yourself about 175,000 BTU vented furnace cuz you're going to lose some up the chimney but you're going to be healthier and your stuff won't sweat and I don't care what you say you'll smell I've been anywhere I've been around those heaters and people end up smelling
Flames roll out periodically!, as it’s surrounded by nice dry wood…..😳😳
Well that’s because I don’t use it any more:)
@ I seen the humour in what you said, it was funny actually🤓
Dude NO Ryobi Torpedo Heater They Run on Both Electric and Battery So If You Lose Power You Can Still Run It and They are Very Quiet Compared to A Normal One
You shook the little bottle before using, passed on shaking the big bottle. Isnt your reason for shaking a one size fits all procedure, or are you just crazy that way?
Do your self a favour and get a carbon monoxide detector and install it correctly in your shed, then observe how many times that heater sets the alarm off. You'll soon stop using that heater in that small room.