Those bitter esters are usually something distillers try to exclude. Fermented apples have a ton of heads (methanol) and tails (the more bitter flavors), so actually getting a good flavor for them requires either wasting a lot of cider to only keep the hearts. You can throw the tails into the next batch and recover some more hearts from it, but it's risky. You can also process the results, which is why brandy (apple or otherwise) is usually aged in toasted wood barrels - the wood itself breaks down some of the off flavors, age breaks down some more, and the in situ charcoal absorbs some of the rest, while the wood imparts it own flavors to hide whatever can't be chilled out. Uh, so I've heard.
Not really sure what's so "risky" about using the feints in another batch, people do that all the time as it's a good way to get the most out of a batch as possible.
@Gazr Gazr People tend to really overexaggerate the dangers of methanol in distilling. Depending on the size of your still, just discard the first 100-200ml of distilate and keep it as a cleaning product. You don't really need to worry very much about precise measurements of foreshots as you're gonna be discarding the Heads that you get during the initial stages of distillation anyway.
@Gazr Gazr 100-200ml will get rid of any foreshots in most consumer available stills, again, you don't really need to worry too much about exact measurements as you're going to be discarding a significant portion of Heads anyway. There's also generally a pretty hard cap on how much abv you can get during fermentation, anything too far above 15% abv in the wash and you'll start killing your yeast.
I'd have poured the appley concentrate into the pint of vodka. A slice of apple, a slice of orange, crushed ice and named the new drink "An Awkward Pause" ;)
That is basically what Apple Jack is. You make that by fermenting juice, then freezing it and syphoning off the sugar and alcohol which has a lower freezing temperature than water.
@@zachv1942But is it possible to buy something with as much value as Frosty Jack's in the U.S.? Kinda doesn't work if you can't buy cheap booze to refine/distill into somewhat better booze.
@@Fox_Mortus I don't know about "more" as a blanket statement, but they certainly aren't without value. Knowing what not to do is *often* as important as knowing what to do, and yea sometimes more important (sometimes less). Either way it's good to publish the good with the bad. This is something I've observed has been lost in modern academic science, but at least we have RUclips.
From 124am to 312am? That’s dedication or insomnia or both. We all appreciate the additional knowledge we’ve gained thanks to whatever it is that makes you do these experiments in the wee hours.
@@ravenbarsrepairs5594 Yep, I used to work with a guy who kept moving his morning to when ever he got up to go to work. If he got up for a midnight shift at 11pm he would be having his breakfast then.
@@misamsung6191 I've had breakfast cereal and protein shake twice today, so... Who the hell am I to question your old mate's eating habits? Actually, I feel in a few hours I could go and gobble the hell out of a bagel breakfast sandwich...
Something I learned from Curiosity Show: if you want to empty a bottle like that faster, spin it around a few times while emptying it to create a vortex. Once the vortex is established it'll self sustain. It won't splash as much either. Kinda needs two hands though... Cheers!
+1 Learned that when my job was testing packagings to the UN Orange Book on dangerous goods transport. The knack is to invert, then do a quick swirl motion.
What did you (or anyone) expect? Companies go for profit, chemists go for experiments 😂 Also, Radler beer (flavored beer) and non-alcoholic "beers" do more or less the same thing How to make radler beer: Mix a few drops of [insert the flavour] aroma (the ones used in cakes for example) and a bottle of beer - if you cant drink much alcohol for whatever reason, add water or soda with the desired flavour (beer is usually ~5% ethanol in volume content, so 1dcl beer:9 dcl of water or flavoured soda is usually mixed for commercial purposes). Also, you can make a jug of lemon water and mix the beer in for lemon flavoured radler beer (it is getting a lot of popularity in Europe due to low alcohol content).
He and Ralfy clearly know quite a bit about the technicalities of what they drink. I love hearing the two of them natter on about the history and chemical compositions of various drinks. Or just take the mick out of one another as brothers should.
A "Vol. Alc-chemist%". Interesting that you can use a "water distiller" for distilling alcohol, I want to try that. I've been concentrating my homemade wines using ice distilling (i. e. use the higher freezing point of water in a freezer, then pour out what's still liquid or thaws a little).
Many years ago, I used to go through 5 litres a day of that stuff! Happier times indeed, but obviously not sustainable and I no longer partake😂 Great video👍🏼
I have a tip for you for emptying full bottles (small to big): keep it upside down and immediately initiate a swirling movement to create a vortex. This will empty the bottle in the quickest possible way without splashing. Works great. Would show great on video as well. I am a Sodastream user as well but only carbonate water. I leave carbonating other stuff up to you so you can make these intriguing videos :-)
The quickest way is to put a straw inside, leave it hanging out, and bent down the side of the bottle. When you turn it upside down, it flows out in seconds because the air just flows up the straw. Completely useless bit of info, but it was fun to watch.
I can confirm this, having worked in a wine bottling factory where I had to dispose of about 30 bottles of wine down the drain per shift after taking a small sample.
When I Worked in Marijuana Extracts I used 6 Water Distiller units to Concentrate the Isopropyl Alcohol Extracts. They work pretty good for a Batch Process.
The only time I (American) ever heard of Frosty Jack's was from a vine Limmy made. Frightening that you can buy 2l of it and that it comes in the same bottle that they sell Faygo in over here.
My old next door neighbour used to love Frosty Jack and got blazed on the stuff. Unfortunately, he committed suicide in 2018 and I still miss the bloke, so Frosty Jack is a reminder of how a good neighbour he was 😥
The problem with apple wine/cider/whatever, is the malic acid from the apple. The sugar from the apple covers the bitter/sour note of the acid. It's most apparent after fermentation when all the sugar is removed. It's supposed to mellow over time, and there's specific yeasts to minimize the malic acid in the final product. So if the sugar remained in the distiller, and the malic acid went with the distillate, the distillate will be sour.
What apple? Frosty Jacks is chemical cider, it has never seen an apple in its life. They add a bit of apple flavouring so it can legally be called cider.
Wow Clive that shocked me to the core (no pun intended) I think the only apples that stuff has been near is in the store room of the shop 😊 That’s a ruff drink, where I used to live the neighbour lost a leg and then the rest of him due to that stuff…. Interesting video though Clive thanks
living in a rural location, I once gave a lift to a neighbour in his dressing gown on a Sunday afternoon to buy this stuff. He still had both legs when I last saw him, but that was a while back.....
Cider, in particular, tends to have a substantial amount of fuselol (aka fusel alcohol or fusel oil), which contributes to the bitter or spicy taste. There is some opinion that the heavier alcohols also contribute to hangovers. On the other hand, they make great lacquer thinners.
I've got a HORRIBLE idea for the soda stream, but it might be so bad that it really does make a horrible mess. Heat some spirits, add powdered gelatin, combine and dissolve. Pour into bottle, carbonate, then rapid chill with dry ice or other silly methods so you don't have to wait QUITE as long for it to solidify.
👍🏻 Don't give up yet! You could try filtering your not-vodka through some charcoal. There are some ready made water filters based on charcoal that might do the trick. Or you could use the not-vodka with ingredients that would make the bitterness irrelevant .. pickled fruit, home made liqueurs, trifles, cocktails, Irish coffee, etc.
They're great little units for the price. If you do, grab yourself a cheap SCR so you can lower the voltage going to the heating element. You can really push the ABV to a decent level, I've had up to 80% starting from a 40% initial product, and tuck a copper scrubbie up where there's generally a little hook thing on the inside of the lid. This will help remove sulphites from the distillation stream, and the combination of lower power and the surface area of the scrubbie will give you a little passive reflux, giving you a cleaner end product. Or so I've heard.
Hide the bitter taste by either adding marrow rum or perhaps more interestingly exposing the distillate to UV light to speed up the maturation process.
On the day that Scotland introduced per unit pricing of alcohol (making that cheap bottle of cider very dear), England took Viagra off prescription allowing it to be sold over the counter. I was in York that day so I had a double whisky in a pub and went to Boots to laugh at the prices. You see, prescriptions are free in Scotland. So much for hard drink...
I did several experiments like this when I couldn't get hand sanitizer or meth spirits during the early months of the pandemic.The worst was menthol mouth wash which ate into the plastic container I used for distillate collection.
I'd like to see your review of replacing the distilled alcohol with a more premium vodka. Add good vodka to the concentrate and throw that in the soda stream.
I myself don't drink these beverages. Although, your experiments are such an eye candy for sure, thanks for this all, you childish huge bear from the Isle of Man. Thanks a lot!
In New Zealand we have a drinking game called Scrumpy Hands, where you get a 1.5L bottle of Scrumpy (8.2% Cider) taped to each hand, and they only get taken off once you finish both bottles 😅
My partner at the time started to drink more and more until he drank a litre and a half of Vodka a day. Needless to say, he spent three months in hospital and surprised the doctors by surviving. Don’t drink to excess or others may cry at your funeral. That incident wounded me and changed my life forever.
On an unrelated note, if you rotate the bottle as you hold it fully upside down, the self sustaining vortex created, speeds up the discharge of the liquid.
ok this is the first time ive ever seen your face and i am in utter shock as to how majestic your beard is. i am experiencing extreme beard envy right now
I just watched a man tasting ethanol extracted from a fake apple drink at 3am. The only question I have now is, can the 100% recycled bottle be turned into something drinkable? (Sorry Clive, please *don't* try that experiment - it probably won't turn out well.)
NileRed turned plastic gloves into grape soda, so.... (Not very _good_ grape soda mind you, but to an open-minded chemist pretty much *_anything_* is _possible..._ 🙃)
So, you turned 2.5 litre of cheap cider (£4.30 Iceland) into (almost) .5 litre of ersatz Vodka. Tesco's own brand vodka (37.5% ABV) is £15.50 pre litre so £7.75 per 500ml. SUCCESS!
One thing that occurred to me watching this..... it neither creates nor destroys ethanol, but it makes it taste unpalatable. If you want to have the same amount of alcohol , but rather more palitably....just drink the cider.
This is why people keep coming to RUclips as some other Social Media channels shy away from this kind of intelligent debate but the is the Real Deal people and things that matter to every day Folk
A fair number of the volatile compounds taste bitter in their pure form, but if diluted or vaporized, the aroma becomes part of the flavor of the food or drink and adds complexity or even sweetness. Vanilla, or rather vanillin, is a classic example of this.
I'm a American and well we have our own shitty alcohol brands here Frosty Jack's really intrigues me from the fact that it comes in a bottle that's just under 3 l or 3 l depending on who you talk to to how ridiculously cheap it is it makes me wonder. I want to try so I can say That was gross I would never drink that again.
@@chitlitlah One of my apartment room mates bought a bottle of T-bird back in the day. It pretty much gave the taste impression of table sugar syrup infused with Zippo lighter fuel. I’m pretty sure the half drained bottle was tossed out a couple of days later.
Ever made applejack? It's an ice dilation moonshine trick that teenage rednecks make in the American South. That was totally not an incriminating childhood reference.
2L bottles of hard cider? I can't imagine that being legal in the US. It would be interesting to freeze that to slush and take off the liquid. That was the traditional way to make applejack. The bitter taste is probably from methanol and higher weight alcohols, aka "fusil oils", that came across in the distilling process. You probably got most of not all the alcohol in the first 150ml. Ethanol and water form an azeotrope that's 95% alcohol and boils at a lower temperature than either. Once that takes away all the ethanol and methanol, the temperature increases and you get more water and the heavier alcohols.
Would it work to add the alcohol back to the Frosty Jack’s mix that was distilled, return it to the original volume, chill it, re-carbonate it, and bring the Frosty Jack’s back to life?
Those bitter esters are usually something distillers try to exclude. Fermented apples have a ton of heads (methanol) and tails (the more bitter flavors), so actually getting a good flavor for them requires either wasting a lot of cider to only keep the hearts. You can throw the tails into the next batch and recover some more hearts from it, but it's risky. You can also process the results, which is why brandy (apple or otherwise) is usually aged in toasted wood barrels - the wood itself breaks down some of the off flavors, age breaks down some more, and the in situ charcoal absorbs some of the rest, while the wood imparts it own flavors to hide whatever can't be chilled out.
Uh, so I've heard.
I don't think those cheap ciders have ever been near an apple. They are basically diluted industrial ethanol, mixed with sweeteners and flavouring.
Not really sure what's so "risky" about using the feints in another batch, people do that all the time as it's a good way to get the most out of a batch as possible.
@Gazr Gazr The treatment for methanol poisoning is ingesting copious amounts of ethanol anyway. So there you go!
@Gazr Gazr People tend to really overexaggerate the dangers of methanol in distilling.
Depending on the size of your still, just discard the first 100-200ml of distilate and keep it as a cleaning product.
You don't really need to worry very much about precise measurements of foreshots as you're gonna be discarding the Heads that you get during the initial stages of distillation anyway.
@Gazr Gazr 100-200ml will get rid of any foreshots in most consumer available stills, again, you don't really need to worry too much about exact measurements as you're going to be discarding a significant portion of Heads anyway.
There's also generally a pretty hard cap on how much abv you can get during fermentation, anything too far above 15% abv in the wash and you'll start killing your yeast.
The label having the 100% recyclable text larger than the cider is probably a good indicator of quality of the contents.
You can recycle the bottle, too. 😉
I'd have poured the appley concentrate into the pint of vodka. A slice of apple, a slice of orange, crushed ice and named the new drink "An Awkward Pause" ;)
One moment please, please
That is basically what Apple Jack is. You make that by fermenting juice, then freezing it and syphoning off the sugar and alcohol which has a lower freezing temperature than water.
@@TheDarkFalconalso delicious
Tryouts a vodka: collins sometime,
just make sure the bartender knows what they're doing. Mmm
@@TheDarkFalcon Is that legal to do at home, or is it only distillation that's not?
Props to Clive for publishing negative results
What do ya mean. A pint of vodka for that much is a bargain. In the US alcohol is expensive
@@zachv1942But is it possible to buy something with as much value as Frosty Jack's in the U.S.? Kinda doesn't work if you can't buy cheap booze to refine/distill into somewhat better booze.
Spoiler Alert!
The bad results teach you more than the good results. I feel like that's the theme of the whole channel.
@@Fox_Mortus I don't know about "more" as a blanket statement, but they certainly aren't without value. Knowing what not to do is *often* as important as knowing what to do, and yea sometimes more important (sometimes less). Either way it's good to publish the good with the bad. This is something I've observed has been lost in modern academic science, but at least we have RUclips.
From 124am to 312am? That’s dedication or insomnia or both.
We all appreciate the additional knowledge we’ve gained thanks to whatever it is that makes you do these experiments in the wee hours.
Or someone with a odd sleep schedule due to being self employed.
@@ravenbarsrepairs5594 Yep, I used to work with a guy who kept moving his morning to when ever he got up to go to work. If he got up for a midnight shift at 11pm he would be having his breakfast then.
@@misamsung6191 I've had breakfast cereal and protein shake twice today, so... Who the hell am I to question your old mate's eating habits?
Actually, I feel in a few hours I could go and gobble the hell out of a bagel breakfast sandwich...
@@misamsung6191 he just like me for real
@@misamsung6191 it’s not unusual for night workers to have breakfast when they get up at 9/10pm, it helps the body clock realise it’s time to wake up.
Something I learned from Curiosity Show: if you want to empty a bottle like that faster, spin it around a few times while emptying it to create a vortex. Once the vortex is established it'll self sustain. It won't splash as much either. Kinda needs two hands though... Cheers!
Professor Julius Sumner Miller..... Classic TV experiment.
+1 Learned that when my job was testing packagings to the UN Orange Book on dangerous goods transport. The knack is to invert, then do a quick swirl motion.
Just up-end it, and stab a hole in the base...
;)
the australian Curiosity Show made an adult episode brewing beer, quite interesting
Remember seeing that trick on How2.
A pint of vodka in a 2.5 liter bottle of soda labeled as cider is wild
What did you (or anyone) expect? Companies go for profit, chemists go for experiments 😂 Also, Radler beer (flavored beer) and non-alcoholic "beers" do more or less the same thing
How to make radler beer: Mix a few drops of [insert the flavour] aroma (the ones used in cakes for example) and a bottle of beer - if you cant drink much alcohol for whatever reason, add water or soda with the desired flavour (beer is usually ~5% ethanol in volume content, so 1dcl beer:9 dcl of water or flavoured soda is usually mixed for commercial purposes). Also, you can make a jug of lemon water and mix the beer in for lemon flavoured radler beer (it is getting a lot of popularity in Europe due to low alcohol content).
It don’t taste like soda/pop I can promise you
@@luks7305 that's only a 2.5 litre bottle ? It looks much bigger!
Given the carbonated alcohol experiments I'd say Clive is becoming a bit of a chemist!
Breaking Bad!!!!!!
@@tomgeorge3726 Breaking wind if he drinks that lot....
Big Clive's videos made me buy a Sodastream Spirit... It does not fartulate beverages like whatever model he has, me is sad.
He and Ralfy clearly know quite a bit about the technicalities of what they drink. I love hearing the two of them natter on about the history and chemical compositions of various drinks.
Or just take the mick out of one another as brothers should.
A "Vol. Alc-chemist%".
Interesting that you can use a "water distiller" for distilling alcohol, I want to try that. I've been concentrating my homemade wines using ice distilling (i. e. use the higher freezing point of water in a freezer, then pour out what's still liquid or thaws a little).
Many years ago, I used to go through 5 litres a day of that stuff! Happier times indeed, but obviously not sustainable and I no longer partake😂 Great video👍🏼
Same here, until my heart decided I really ought to stop, before it did.
Oh so you were the local drunk harassing the good towns folk.
@@Dime_Bar 😂
Glad you stopped doing that.
@@Okurka. don't knock it unless you've tried it.
I have a tip for you for emptying full bottles (small to big): keep it upside down and immediately initiate a swirling movement to create a vortex. This will empty the bottle in the quickest possible way without splashing. Works great. Would show great on video as well. I am a Sodastream user as well but only carbonate water. I leave carbonating other stuff up to you so you can make these intriguing videos :-)
The quickest way is to put a straw inside, leave it hanging out, and bent down the side of the bottle. When you turn it upside down, it flows out in seconds because the air just flows up the straw. Completely useless bit of info, but it was fun to watch.
I can confirm this, having worked in a wine bottling factory where I had to dispose of about 30 bottles of wine down the drain per shift after taking a small sample.
@@Derek_Garnham Thank you for confirming 😉
Run it through a britta water filter 3 or 4 times that might polish it up a bit. Another great vid B C. Cheers from Aussie 🦘👍.
🙃🇦🇺
When I Worked in Marijuana Extracts I used 6 Water Distiller units to Concentrate the Isopropyl Alcohol Extracts. They work pretty good for a Batch Process.
That mini supercomputer pin is sooooo cool. You're so fun sir keep up the great work. Love the weird experiments along the electronics channel.
That was a gift from "mouse". He ended up selling them on Etsy.
www.etsy.com/shop/Flashything
I always find you disassembly videos intriguing, but these videos make wish I had taken up smoking. Just sit back and watch the chaos happen.
The only time I (American) ever heard of Frosty Jack's was from a vine Limmy made. Frightening that you can buy 2l of it and that it comes in the same bottle that they sell Faygo in over here.
2.5L
I've not consumed any since the late 90s and it still gives me the shivers looking at the bottle
My old next door neighbour used to love Frosty Jack and got blazed on the stuff. Unfortunately, he committed suicide in 2018 and I still miss the bloke, so Frosty Jack is a reminder of how a good neighbour he was 😥
All that and you missed setting the spirits on fire. Come on, Big Clive.
It would need a real distiller to get a flammable percentage.
"I wouldn't recommend distilling this stuff"... Ah well, everything for science! 🍹
The problem with apple wine/cider/whatever, is the malic acid from the apple. The sugar from the apple covers the bitter/sour note of the acid.
It's most apparent after fermentation when all the sugar is removed. It's supposed to mellow over time, and there's specific yeasts to minimize the malic acid in the final product.
So if the sugar remained in the distiller, and the malic acid went with the distillate, the distillate will be sour.
What apple?
Frosty Jacks is chemical cider, it has never seen an apple in its life. They add a bit of apple flavouring so it can legally be called cider.
I love this series of breakfast ideas videos!
Wow Clive that shocked me to the core (no pun intended) I think the only apples that stuff has been near is in the store room of the shop 😊
That’s a ruff drink, where I used to live the neighbour lost a leg and then the rest of him due to that stuff….
Interesting video though Clive thanks
living in a rural location, I once gave a lift to a neighbour in his dressing gown on a Sunday afternoon to buy this stuff. He still had both legs when I last saw him, but that was a while back.....
@@Okurka. he died ☹️ due to alcohol
Cider, in particular, tends to have a substantial amount of fuselol (aka fusel alcohol or fusel oil), which contributes to the bitter or spicy taste. There is some opinion that the heavier alcohols also contribute to hangovers. On the other hand, they make great lacquer thinners.
They’re also good for cleaning parts and lighting charcoal.
A perfect party is started with Ralfy's recommendations and ends with Clive's ditto.
I found Cider suspicious, all the years. Thanks to Clive I know why, now. Apple juice mixed with sugar and Vodka ...
You unknowingly created an interesting effect when you held the empty bottle up in front of your led display that's in the background
I've got a HORRIBLE idea for the soda stream, but it might be so bad that it really does make a horrible mess.
Heat some spirits, add powdered gelatin, combine and dissolve. Pour into bottle, carbonate, then rapid chill with dry ice or other silly methods so you don't have to wait QUITE as long for it to solidify.
😏 Fizzy gelatin? Sounds like a marshmallow with a kick
Fizzy Jello Shooter, if it goes right.
@@ICountFrom0also a Fizzy Jello Shooter if it doesn't, and makes a terrible mess.
The minute I seen frosty jacks I knew this would be good😂😂
I came for flashy lights.
I was not left disappointed.
👍🏻 Don't give up yet!
You could try filtering your not-vodka through some charcoal. There are some ready made water filters based on charcoal that might do the trick.
Or you could use the not-vodka with ingredients that would make the bitterness irrelevant .. pickled fruit, home made liqueurs, trifles, cocktails, Irish coffee, etc.
Hey, I know how to sweeten it a bit. What if you added some apple cider to it?
I've been seriously considering buying a little distiller for experiments. thank you for another great video clive. cheers
They're great little units for the price. If you do, grab yourself a cheap SCR so you can lower the voltage going to the heating element. You can really push the ABV to a decent level, I've had up to 80% starting from a 40% initial product, and tuck a copper scrubbie up where there's generally a little hook thing on the inside of the lid. This will help remove sulphites from the distillation stream, and the combination of lower power and the surface area of the scrubbie will give you a little passive reflux, giving you a cleaner end product. Or so I've heard.
@@adamparisi745 thanks for the tips. Cheers
The spring beard is looking MAGNIFICENT!
Wow, the things you do for science in the middle of the night.
I'll get a pint, and save the trouble. Thanks for the suggestion. Good luck!
Hide the bitter taste by either adding marrow rum or perhaps more interestingly exposing the distillate to UV light to speed up the maturation process.
the UV sounds interesting, is this done while in glass bottles? or with special kit
@@Derek_Garnham in a glass bottle. It ages about a year in a month or so I am told
I have no idea what I'm watching. Normally I just watch your electronic videos. Love it though
I would have paid more attention to what you were saying on first watch of this, but I was too busy envying your green LED brooch.
www.etsy.com/shop/Flashything
It had to be worth a try!
😂Frosty Jacks now gets a visit from the Revenue "We wish to discuss the Duty due on the pint of vodka you sell disguised as cider"
Pretty sure that literally every alcoholic drink becomes 'vodka' when you remove enough 'impurities' from it.
More I wonder if this might fart extra loud. One of my favorite series
On the day that Scotland introduced per unit pricing of alcohol (making that cheap bottle of cider very dear), England took Viagra off prescription allowing it to be sold over the counter. I was in York that day so I had a double whisky in a pub and went to Boots to laugh at the prices. You see, prescriptions are free in Scotland.
So much for hard drink...
That's because half of Scotland is addicted to drugs and don't work that's why they are free.
Pretty good result :)
I did several experiments like this when I couldn't get hand sanitizer or meth spirits during the early months of the pandemic.The worst was menthol mouth wash which ate into the plastic container I used for distillate collection.
Do not drink methanol. I would hope they wouldn't use it in a mouth wash. Probably ethanol.
I'd like to see your review of replacing the distilled alcohol with a more premium vodka.
Add good vodka to the concentrate and throw that in the soda stream.
I myself don't drink these beverages. Although, your experiments are such an eye candy for sure, thanks for this all, you childish huge bear from the Isle of Man.
Thanks a lot!
In New Zealand we have a drinking game called Scrumpy Hands, where you get a 1.5L bottle of Scrumpy (8.2% Cider) taped to each hand, and they only get taken off once you finish both bottles 😅
Are they typically removed by medical personel?
3l at 8.2% is equivalent to 0.615 l at 40%
@@michaeltempsch5282 I managed 4L pretty easily. Wasn't so clever the next morning though.
@@threeMetreJim With the equivalent of 0.82 l of 40%, yeah, I can imagine the morning being a bit rough...
If you ask me, the "biggest surprise of the video" is that Big Clive is still mostly sober at the end ;)
I refrained from drinking a pint of vodka.
Gawd, they are 'giving it some' at the coronation, Clive. They'll be queuing for hours at A and E for ear attention. Not an LED in sight.
Awesome destructive distillation
One sip, and it nearly blows your nose off.
I'm told a voltage controller will keep the distiller temp down a bit and improve the output.
I've also heard a rumour that this is true. I've also heard that tucking a copper scrubbie in the vapour path can improve things even more.
I think the mistakes here start with even thinking about buying Frosty Jack's.
Clive, how much did that bottle of Frosty Jacks cost compared to a pint of vodka?
Cheap... it's REALLY cheap. I'd be surprised if he paid more than £4 for that bottle.
£5.50 or 2 for £10.
There is no 2 liter bottle of hard cider in the US for any price. That much hard cider would cost double here.
You can get this for just over £4 a bottle in a supermarket in mainland UK, but I guess there's the island and small shop markup on the Isle of Man.
@@michael931 I saw a price of $79 AUD for 24 cans at 500 mL each, grog is expensive over here.
The Scottish are well known for their scientific contributions to humanity.
Make applejack with it - you’ll get Frosty Jack Jack.
My partner at the time started to drink more and more until he drank a litre and a half of Vodka a day. Needless to say, he spent three months in hospital and surprised the doctors by surviving. Don’t drink to excess or others may cry at your funeral.
That incident wounded me and changed my life forever.
Some people do seem very prone to alcohol addiction. I wonder if it was related to suppressing work related stress.
@@bigclivedotcom It started after his dad, which he was very close to died of pneumonia.
Bottle up the distillate and stick it on a shelf for a year. It should improve a bit.
Ah. Experiments with Tramp Fuel. Make it stronger, so they can enter Ciderspace more easily.
If you ran the spirit through a super cold plate filter it would improve the taste significantly
I absolutely didn't expect half a litre of vodka inside a rather cheap drink
Non the less great to see the chemistry experiments
And on other side, that is absolutely massive bottle there. I don't think here they sell anything in that large bottle.
@@_Ekaros a large bottle for large thirst
On an unrelated note, if you rotate the bottle as you hold it fully upside down, the self sustaining vortex created, speeds up the discharge of the liquid.
As an American Frosty Jacks is so intriguing and mystifying
We have a wide selection of very trashy alcoholic beverages for those with less financial resources. I quite like the stuff.
Bad Idea Bear, sounds like a children's safety mascot. Teaching the kiddies what is worth distilling.
Avenue-Q has the bad idea bears.
Or just drink the cider !....cheers RIP Calculon
Hol up, you can buy 2.5L bottle of booze? At the supermarket?
We cant even buy Coca-Cola in this volume.
Why on earth are they using 100mil broadcasting the coronation when there's actual quality content like this to be had on the British Isles?
1 pint of Vodka, so that's Clive ready for the weekend 😄
ok this is the first time ive ever seen your face and i am in utter shock as to how majestic your beard is.
i am experiencing extreme beard envy right now
I just watched a man tasting ethanol extracted from a fake apple drink at 3am. The only question I have now is, can the 100% recycled bottle be turned into something drinkable? (Sorry Clive, please *don't* try that experiment - it probably won't turn out well.)
NileRed turned plastic gloves into grape soda, so....
(Not very _good_ grape soda mind you, but to an open-minded chemist pretty much *_anything_* is _possible..._ 🙃)
I would love to see Clive doing Chinese Baijiu, 80% plus.
So, you turned 2.5 litre of cheap cider (£4.30 Iceland) into (almost) .5 litre of ersatz Vodka. Tesco's own brand vodka (37.5% ABV) is £15.50 pre litre so £7.75 per 500ml. SUCCESS!
One thing that occurred to me watching this..... it neither creates nor destroys ethanol, but it makes it taste unpalatable. If you want to have the same amount of alcohol , but rather more palitably....just drink the cider.
This is why people keep coming to RUclips as some other Social Media channels shy away from this kind of intelligent debate but the is the Real Deal people and things that matter to every day Folk
A fair number of the volatile compounds taste bitter in their pure form, but if diluted or vaporized, the aroma becomes part of the flavor of the food or drink and adds complexity or even sweetness. Vanilla, or rather vanillin, is a classic example of this.
You could call the drink, heads and tails.
A Bad Idea... Bear? Oh my 😉😂
I'm a American and well we have our own shitty alcohol brands here Frosty Jack's really intrigues me from the fact that it comes in a bottle that's just under 3 l or 3 l depending on who you talk to to how ridiculously cheap it is it makes me wonder. I want to try so I can say That was gross I would never drink that again.
The stuff can't be as bad as Thunderbird. Thunderbird tastes how gasoline smells.
@@chitlitlah "pint a Thunderbird please Boabby"
@@chitlitlah Remember the 'Shake em up' adverts? Thunderbird and grapefruit juice?
Come to germany, where you can get a bottle of cheap 40% spirit for under 5€
@@chitlitlah One of my apartment room mates bought a bottle of T-bird back in the day. It pretty much gave the taste impression of table sugar syrup infused with Zippo lighter fuel. I’m pretty sure the half drained bottle was tossed out a couple of days later.
Still (pun intended) looking forward to the distilled Guinness experiment, should be interesting!
I wish we had Frosty Jack's over here in the States. I like cider and perry.
Carbonate? Yeah, I'd try it. Distill? Nah.
Bigclive, you're a GAS man....
I greatly enjoy your scientific drink work
I love that your accent skewed towards the country as soon as you took your first sip... bitta
Killed me not smelling them first.
Answering all life's important questions.
I wonder if you could effectively freeze distill that stuff into the world's worst applejack...
That 40% of "Vodka" type stuff might be the remnants of the distilling of Aquavelva aftershave potion. LOL.
Ever made applejack? It's an ice dilation moonshine trick that teenage rednecks make in the American South. That was totally not an incriminating childhood reference.
all in the name of science! A jolly good sport!
2L bottles of hard cider? I can't imagine that being legal in the US.
It would be interesting to freeze that to slush and take off the liquid. That was the traditional way to make applejack.
The bitter taste is probably from methanol and higher weight alcohols, aka "fusil oils", that came across in the distilling process. You probably got most of not all the alcohol in the first 150ml. Ethanol and water form an azeotrope that's 95% alcohol and boils at a lower temperature than either. Once that takes away all the ethanol and methanol, the temperature increases and you get more water and the heavier alcohols.
It's 2.5L and like many drinks here, engineered for the alcohol content.
I've seen this sort of thing in Canada too. Maybe it will make it's way across the border
The UK took many decades longer to get rid of the rum ration on Navy ships than the US too... it was the 60s or 70s or something I vaguely recall!
And they sometimes add anti vomiting chemicals
In nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti but with a little extra spiritus imbued.
Nice drinkware, Clive.
Frosty Jack's is the third national drink behind Irn Bru and Bucky.
I'm still hoping for a video facing Fireball. I'm very curious...
Innovation through chemistry...!
Frosty Jacks has long had a reputation for being a very cheap and nasty way to get drunk. Now thanks to Clive we know why.
@BreatheScotland very true
I was drinking stuff like this well beyond my teens.
Love how all the drinks ye use are from my ned days mate 😂👌🏻
I'm all for bad ideas. I can't wait to enjoy the video!
A pint of vodka in a bottle of cheap fizzy booze? Makes you wonder who's ripping off who in that situation... :P
A pint of vodka per 2.5l bottle really easy to calculate :D
50/50 mix with corn oil and you can run strimmers on that stuff.😁 Thanks clive for testing the endurance of the human liver 😂😂
Would it work to add the alcohol back to the Frosty Jack’s mix that was distilled, return it to the original volume, chill it, re-carbonate it, and bring the Frosty Jack’s back to life?