While the cam setup is similar to those early single overhead cam engines, the m130 engine is unique in that is has the exhaust valve and combustion chamber overhanging the engine deck. Its why the mercedes head gasket almost appears to be for a flathead engine(the cylinder seal is not circular). Old mercedes always had a weird way of getting their engines to produce just a bit more horsepower than a similar sized engine from another company.
On the outside camera road shots (tarmac) you can see just how dismal the condition of the UK’s roads have become, patch after patch, broken line down the middle of the roads, sunken drains everywhere.
Tyrrell, you mention the numerous celebs who’ve own one of these Pagodas, assuming you’ve done the W109 300SEL 6.3, I’d be interested in the also numerous celebs who’ve owned one of them. Graham Nash, Steve McQ, Dennis Wilson, and many more…
If i may, i wanted to explain why i love this channel so much. It's not just that Iain is such a wealth of information but rather how he interacts with us all while executing these videos. Never once have i ever felt embarrassed, unworthy or degraded because I'm new to these vehicles and probably will never be able to afford them. So many RUclips channels creators have an "aire" about them as if they are speaking "down" to their subscribers. They make themselves out to have huge amounts of hubris when most people just want to learn. I commend Iain for always remaining "humble" and I know that quality will show through in his first ever live-stream.
Thank you so much - this is so kind of you to say. I just try to be myself and to share the beauty of these wonderful cars with as many interested people as possible. Thanks also for the kind words about the livestream, I'm really looking forward to it, but slightly nervous!
@@iain_tyrrell Your videos really are second to none, please keep making them and change nothing. I wait for them every week and I'm very much looking forward to that live stream of yours.
Well put, couldn’t agree more. It’s such a treat to have Iain talk to us like we were paying customers, or even better, as true motor car fans. Thank you!
I agree, Kenneth. Iain has a warmth that comes through in his videos. This is also evident in his interactions with his staff. And I'm like you, there's no way I will ever be able to afford the cars he features, but it's nice to learn about them and experience them through him.
Iain, you are a walking encyclopaedia! I’ve always loved the Pagoda. It seems to represent a more glamorous time. The engineering is staggering and to my mind, it was cars like this made Mercedes.
As a longtime subscriber, i - as usual - enjoyed this informative video a lot. You mentioned the designer Béla Barényi quite rightfully as the father of the safety-cell, but although in this video it's mentioned several times that the Pagoda is quite elegant with it's distinctive design, you forgot to mention the designer responsable for this beautiful work of art: the famous French designer Paul Bracq. Thought i'd bring this up to complement the otherwise great video. Cheers from Czech Republic.
So glad to know you enjoyed it. And thank you for reminding me about M. Bracq - you're absolutely right! There were a few things I forgot to mention, but I thought I'd wittered on long enough as it was.
It fills me with joy, to see you Mr Tyrrell teach the young generaton about these moving sculptures, and why they are built like they are. Such depth of knowledge, passed on to the next generation makes me so proud. Thank Sir!
Thank you! It's so important to pass the skills on to keep these wonderful cars alive. If you haven't already seen it, you might like the video I did in December from the Heritage Skills Academy at Brooklands. They're doing fantastic work training apprentices on the techniques used. ruclips.net/video/qICi5zGF5Qk/видео.html
It's a bit sad this channel has only 155K subscribers. It deserves many more. Car enthusiasts who are not subscribed don't know what they are missing especially with the live stream coming soon.
Remains IMO one the most beautiful and smart looking cars post-war. Can remember seeing my first one when they were first released; white color parked at the curb and I thought it one of the most eye-catching cars I had ever seen. Stately, sporty, and elegant with proportions I don't think could be improved. This video is a joy due to the deep and interesting aspects shown about the car, to a degree I've never seen before. Very interesting.
Iain seems to be a renaissance man. He’s shifting from engineering tech to pop culture and history lessons all in one episode. Interesting to me at least
My father bought a 280 SL Automatic in period, probably around 1970, having previously had an E-Type. It was silver and I remember it had an aluminium dash. I thought it was absolutely beautiful and I can remember travelling with him in the front passenger seat with the roof off, which I remember he stored in the garage suspended from the ceiling. Unfortunately, the only two accidents he ever had were in the Mercedes, on both occasions the rear drum brakes locked in the wet and he slid into the rear tailgate of a lorry, breaking an ankle in one of them. Unfortunately the Pagoda had to go and it was replaced with a safer, but much more humdrum 280E saloon.
24:00 not only that, Spitfires sputtered when negative G (pushing the nose over or flying upside down) affected the carburetor. The Bf109 didn't have this problem with the fuel injection. The Merlin however benefited from a cooler inlet charge thanks to the evaporization of the fuel in the carb. Both beautiful designs in their own right.
@@gazzafloss No, it was the war on land which decided the issue, by kids being fed into the meat grinder by the millions. Your tone of nationalistic pridefulness is either ignorant or callous. Both the Merlin and db605 were terrible machines and nothing whatsoever to be proud of.
This issue was recognised, and addressed. The short term solution was a perforated diaphragm inside the carburettor. It was not a full solution, but gave pretty good results. It was developed by Beatrice Schilling, a mechanical engineer. It was known colloquially as 'Miss Schilling's orifice'. The long term solution was a pressure carburettor, introduced in 1943, which fully overcame the issues, without losing the advantages of a carburettor.
As a retired mechanical engineer, I find this portrayal of cars totally fascinating. One the one hand there is the visible, beautiful, shiny and smooth exterior of the body, and the luxury of the interior for the passengers. One the other hand is the multitude of engineering, often oily but (hopefully) unseen components that make the car move. Great to see both sides on your videos.
Wow Ian. Anyone lucky enough to work with you can only count themselves as truely lucky. To be afforded the opportunity to learn is wonderful for the lucky few. We need people like you to transfer the knowledge to the next group
Even though I'm most knowledgeable about Italian cars, I can and definitely do appreciate these great classic Mercedes Benz models, hailing from the days when Mercedes really built its cars like nobody else. Always a pleasure to learn from you, Iain; thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience with us all, and sure I'll tune in for the live stream!
Iain is THE MAN! So very smart and he's a classic treasure much more than any car LOL. Of course he knows all the little specs and tricks on so many cool old cars like the Pagoda. And just watching and listening to him is a real treat! Thank you for the great channel and videos! It's hard work making them I know!
@iain_tyrrell amazing knowledge. I'm loving the videos and learning more. I was never blessed with much brains and would have loved to have done what you've done but not everyone can be that clever.
What a fabulous episode once again with such profound mastery with a distinctive style for quite uncomplicated sounding tuition of intricate matters... I must admit that the W113 has been lacking attention from my side somewhat since I have been of the opinion that the succeeding R107 actually brought back a powerful design after the 190 and 300 SL. The W113 is exceptionally elegant and characteristic nonetheless but has been overshadowed by the R107 perhaps. Well, at least in my mind. Wonderful! Thank you so much again.
Nerdy Excursions! If you ever write a book, there's the title! Another great episode! Thanks for taking the time from your work to answer so many comments, Iain!
Even though I spend quite a bit of time on RUclips, Iain drove me to my first use of the subscribe button, and the like button. Your videos never disappoint and I’m going to take the time to go back and like all of your videos because I want RUclips to give me more of THIS!
Ive recently discovered this channel and have sent everything I've watched to my chums. I have to refer to Mr. Tyrell as Mr. Tyrell as he is a true gentleman. Obviously i love all of the wide variety of cars but for me depth of knowledge and finesse are beyond compare but clearly its the "just so" factor that matters most. Wonderful.
Actually Porsche 964 -> 1994 was the last 911 that had mechanically adjusted valves. 993 has almost the same air cooled 3.6 engine but they didn't have to be adjusted anymore. Cheers.
I had an Eargle Etype lightweight that originally belonged to Wyn Percy. From outside looking in gorgeous. But not hugely roomy. My Pagoda Mercedes far better but oh oh so underpowered. I was lucky to find Lars Rombelsheim of Laro Sportswagon in Germany. Using my original engine he stroked it to 230 BHP and 3.3 litres. Now it’s a match for Porsches Dinos and Etype’s of the day. But the build quality beats all the others. Fabulous car
I wonder if the solid aluminium doors was an attempt to improve the safety cell of the convertible chassis. As a side note I think classic MB owners overestimate the strength of their cars. While my 123 has the bank vault clunk when I close the door, especially with the window down, I have no illusions as to the outcome in a head on with a modern car. Still much safer than many other classics, or a bike!
Iain, I'm a Mercedes-Benz owner-driver for 20 plus years so I'm blatantly biased toward the marque. I enjoyed how you described the door as "a lump of aluminium"; at this point I've driven most of the MB models & they are all built like Panzers. I noticed the Pagoda hood opened from the back, "clamshell" hood, which I never saw before on an MB. You clearly are an MB expert: one question: is the Pagoda the only MB that had a clamshell hood or are there others?
According to Jason Cammisa, Prince Motors of Japan had a license to produce the Mercedes inline 6 engines. Nissan bought Prince Motors in 1966 and inherited the license. The 4 cylinder in the 510 and the 6 cylinder in the 240Z are based on the Mercedes engine.
I would walk out in the morning to find the grill missing off my early Mini about five times! I ended up putting a cheap repro grill on and they left it alone... Peckham 1990s.
Another wonderful video, so informative, and I love Iain's gentle yet naughty sense of humour. He was just bursting to go all "Carry On" with the lobes gag, brilliant. Thank you.
My understanding is that Nissan acquired another Japanese company that had licensed the Merc engine design but had shortened it into a 4 cyl. Nissan took that design and made it back into a 6 cyl for the 240z. So the similarities are not just superficial.
Whenever Iain does these special announcements, I get flash back to those days of television where they would go : we interrupt the program for some important breaking news. And you would kinda lean forward in your armchair.
Who'd have even guessed about the headlights? You're always learning something from Iain Tyrrell's channel. I've seen a lot of these for sale over the years, in various conditions, but never noticed that detail.
Can watch Mr Tyrrell talking about cars all day long. Especially about Mercedes. Would be great to see CLK W209 with such a wealth of knowledge . Thank you.
I've heard that the DB engineers had problems with lubrication of the diesel injection pumps used, because petrol has little lubricity when compared to diesel fuel, They used extensive modification to overcome that. Alternatively, they could have just added two stroke oil.
I love the early thin bumper mercedes roadsters, the bumpers remind me of the XK120 thin bumpers... they are so unobtrusive AND allow the lines of the car to shine.
I love this channel. Honestly if this video had been 90 minutes long I would have watched it. And still wished for 90 minutes more. Thanks for doing these videos - I'm sure there are great efforts behind the scenes that we don't see, but they're surely appreciated by all! Good luck in the live-stream!
Iain, Please! Never, never ever feel like you need to apologise for anything, and I mean anything! It is a total priveledge and an honour for all of us for you to take the time out of your no doubt busy daily life to witter on, nerd out, segway and digress just to make these magnificent videos, which personally I could watch for hours and just can't get enough of!
nerdy .......i love it ! So many things to learn ! Cast aluminium doors with an aluminum skin. I knew that there was aluminium used but i never knew that is was that huge amount of material was used. The pagode is one of my dream cars .....gosh i have so many dream cars.......................... Thank you again and again for all these videos and the work which comes along with them. Also i like how you involve your employes and treating them well infront of the camera. I am sure you treating them also good when the camera is not rolling ;-)
Vielen Dank für Ihr wunderbares Video über die Pagode. Mr. Tyrell, Sie sind immer äußerst informativ, unterhaltsam und verkörpern auf so lässig-sympathische Weise die Faszination, die diese alten klassischen Fahrzeuge für uns alle bedeuten. Großartig!
Fantastic presentation, as always! Worth mentioning here is designer Paul Bracq, responsible for this Mercedes masterpiece, and later many great styles for BMW, the original 5-series and more. Keep the vids coming!
Wonderful cars, I owned a '64 230SL manual for about 8 years in the 2000's and drove it almost daily. The early cars with the tubular headers sound even better. As you said Iain to do anything up behind the dash is a nightmare, heater cables/valves, speedo repair and obviously the wiper linkages. Another reason they seize, apart from lack of use, is there is a tiny drain hole in the recess where those wipers bolt on. The hole gets clogged with dirt/debris, or gets painted over, and the water pools there and seeps down into the spindle. A lot of 60's Benz cars are the same, look for the drain hole and keep it clear. Love the channel, can't wait for the live stream !!
Good evening Iain . Can't tell you how excited l am to have the chance to ask you a question on Sunday ! That FF looked very nice . Regarding the bf109 l have heard and seen k both the RR and Daimler Benz in a mock "dog fight " about 20 years back at a show near Gloucestershire. Sadly it was later written off in a landing accident and now static only . Must say the 109 was very much quieter than the Merlin but was noticeably "smokier " . And these Pagoda's were terrible rust buckets. "Car SOS " restored one and by some margin it was the worst car they ever rebuilt ! (I think they were tucked up ) Thankyou lain .
One of my past bosses was persuaded to buy a Pagoda in 1990 as an investment and one day I was asked as the resident motor nerd to go to his garage to get the thing started so it could be used at the weekend for posing. It was the first time I had had a close look around a Pagoda, given that this was a supposed investment the driver's door rubbers showed remarkable wear, suggesting that the body was flexing. I did not expect that from a Merc. Indeed, my 1994 W124 500E (the last of the cars built when Merc was run by engineers) is astoundingly solid.
The doors on my Lancia Fulvia coupe are the same construction as my Pagoda's - all aluminum, skin over cast door body. I double checked with a magnet and, yes, all aluminum construction.
Iain Tyrrell is perhaps the only guy of whom I know who could take a drive in a humdrum car like mine, a clapped out Mk IV Triumph Spitfire, and not only would it run better than it ever has, but he would give it the classiest touch it would ever have had. Thank you for yet another wonderful drive in an equally wonderful car!
Iain your videos are nothing but marvellous, your knowledge will sadly one day be missed, it's legendary. Your staff are very fortunate to have a great a great depth of knowledge to learn from.
The amount of knowledge, class and politeness in these videos and people intervining, is truly outstanding. Really amazing to see this kind of work be done on such awesome vehicles. I'd emigrate and work in this workshop in a heartbeat 😅
Thanks Ian for your work, quality tv about cars and classics is sadly missing on mainstream tv and you plus several others do a great job. The cars you guide us round are beyond my means but I never feel embarrassed or not worthy of your work, your knack is speaking to “ me” as if I’m the owner… thanks
Always such an informative and pleasant half hour. Thank you. Just a thought. To be an apprentice to Iain would surely be career defining. Please do continue his efforts and manner.
The depth of your knowledge and your ability to educate us never ceases to amaze. My Sunday is complete now!
Thank you!
Thank you, Iain. What a brilliant episode.
Glad you enjoyed it!
While the cam setup is similar to those early single overhead cam engines, the m130 engine is unique in that is has the exhaust valve and combustion chamber overhanging the engine deck. Its why the mercedes head gasket almost appears to be for a flathead engine(the cylinder seal is not circular). Old mercedes always had a weird way of getting their engines to produce just a bit more horsepower than a similar sized engine from another company.
On the outside camera road shots (tarmac) you can see just how dismal the condition of the UK’s roads have become, patch after patch, broken line down the middle of the roads, sunken drains everywhere.
I love this channel. I can't get enough of it.
❤good shades Iain!!!😎
Lovely car
Tyrrell, you mention the numerous celebs who’ve own one of these Pagodas,
assuming you’ve done the W109 300SEL 6.3, I’d be interested in the also numerous celebs who’ve owned one of them. Graham Nash, Steve McQ, Dennis Wilson, and many more…
If i may, i wanted to explain why i love this channel so much. It's not just that Iain is such a wealth of information but rather how he interacts with us all while executing these videos. Never once have i ever felt embarrassed, unworthy or degraded because I'm new to these vehicles and probably will never be able to afford them. So many RUclips channels creators have an "aire" about them as if they are speaking "down" to their subscribers. They make themselves out to have huge amounts of hubris when most people just want to learn. I commend Iain for always remaining "humble" and I know that quality will show through in his first ever live-stream.
Great comment, man. I agree with you.
Thank you so much - this is so kind of you to say. I just try to be myself and to share the beauty of these wonderful cars with as many interested people as possible. Thanks also for the kind words about the livestream, I'm really looking forward to it, but slightly nervous!
@@iain_tyrrell Your videos really are second to none, please keep making them and change nothing. I wait for them every week and I'm very much looking forward to that live stream of yours.
Well put, couldn’t agree more. It’s such a treat to have Iain talk to us like we were paying customers, or even better, as true motor car fans. Thank you!
I agree, Kenneth. Iain has a warmth that comes through in his videos. This is also evident in his interactions with his staff. And I'm like you, there's no way I will ever be able to afford the cars he features, but it's nice to learn about them and experience them through him.
Iain, you are a walking encyclopaedia! I’ve always loved the Pagoda. It seems to represent a more glamorous time. The engineering is staggering and to my mind, it was cars like this made Mercedes.
Mercedes-Benz was great long before the Pagoda even was conceived.
As a longtime subscriber, i - as usual - enjoyed this informative video a lot.
You mentioned the designer Béla Barényi quite rightfully as the father of the safety-cell, but although in this video it's mentioned several times that the Pagoda is quite elegant with it's distinctive design, you forgot to mention the designer responsable for this beautiful work of art: the famous French designer Paul Bracq. Thought i'd bring this up to complement the otherwise great video. Cheers from Czech Republic.
So glad to know you enjoyed it. And thank you for reminding me about M. Bracq - you're absolutely right! There were a few things I forgot to mention, but I thought I'd wittered on long enough as it was.
@@iain_tyrrell I'd also love to see your take on Paul Bracq's other classic creation - the BMW E24 6-Series.
Never, Iain. :)
@@iain_tyrrell I think the majority of your subscribers can't get enough of your "wittering..." So keep it up, no matter how 'nerdy' it is.
It fills me with joy, to see you Mr Tyrrell teach the young generaton about these moving sculptures, and why they are built like they are. Such depth of knowledge, passed on to the next generation makes me so proud. Thank Sir!
Thank you! It's so important to pass the skills on to keep these wonderful cars alive. If you haven't already seen it, you might like the video I did in December from the Heritage Skills Academy at Brooklands. They're doing fantastic work training apprentices on the techniques used. ruclips.net/video/qICi5zGF5Qk/видео.html
It's a bit sad this channel has only 155K subscribers. It deserves many more. Car enthusiasts who are not subscribed don't know what they are missing especially with the live stream coming soon.
A beautiful car. Elegant, understated and exuding quality. An enjoyable video as ever. Cheers Iain.
Thanks Alex! Glad you enjoyed it.
When Mercedes made beautiful cars. An all time classic shape.
Remains IMO one the most beautiful and smart looking cars post-war. Can remember seeing my first one when they were first released; white color parked at the curb and I thought it one of the most eye-catching cars I had ever seen. Stately, sporty, and elegant with proportions I don't think could be improved.
This video is a joy due to the deep and interesting aspects shown about the car, to a degree I've never seen before. Very interesting.
Thank you very much! I'm delighted to know you enjoyed the video. I agree, it's still a very stylish car, a true classic.
When I was 18 in 1868, I used to be a valet parking kid at an exclusive golf club. I loved driving the 230s - 280s up and down the drive to the lot.
@scottireland5414 bloody hell you must be 156 years old your doing well for your age
Drop everything, I’m sitting comfortable
Including underpants?
@@jonlyons1033 depends how much we like the car I guess😂😂
Iain seems to be a renaissance man. He’s shifting from engineering tech to pop culture and history lessons all in one episode. Interesting to me at least
Great to see master and apprentice at work !! 👍 Looking forward to the live stream !!
See you there!
My father bought a 280 SL Automatic in period, probably around 1970, having previously had an E-Type. It was silver and I remember it had an aluminium dash. I thought it was absolutely beautiful and I can remember travelling with him in the front passenger seat with the roof off, which I remember he stored in the garage suspended from the ceiling.
Unfortunately, the only two accidents he ever had were in the Mercedes, on both occasions the rear drum brakes locked in the wet and he slid into the rear tailgate of a lorry, breaking an ankle in one of them.
Unfortunately the Pagoda had to go and it was replaced with a safer, but much more humdrum 280E saloon.
SL stands for Super Light (SuperLeicht) and not Sport Light. The S in 300 SE for instance also stands for Super.
24:00 not only that, Spitfires sputtered when negative G (pushing the nose over or flying upside down) affected the carburetor. The Bf109 didn't have this problem with the fuel injection. The Merlin however benefited from a cooler inlet charge thanks to the evaporization of the fuel in the carb. Both beautiful designs in their own right.
But then the real decider was who won the war in the air, and we know who that was, FI or non FI.
@@gazzafloss No, it was the war on land which decided the issue, by kids being fed into the meat grinder by the millions. Your tone of nationalistic pridefulness is either ignorant or callous. Both the Merlin and db605 were terrible machines and nothing whatsoever to be proud of.
This issue was recognised, and addressed. The short term solution was a perforated diaphragm inside the carburettor. It was not a full solution, but gave pretty good results. It was developed by Beatrice Schilling, a mechanical engineer. It was known colloquially as 'Miss Schilling's orifice'. The long term solution was a pressure carburettor, introduced in 1943, which fully overcame the issues, without losing the advantages of a carburettor.
@@pashakdescilly7517 You have won "internet anecdote of the month" for me
@@charliejackman2953 well, thankyou. It's nice to be appreciated.
As a retired mechanical engineer, I find this portrayal of cars totally fascinating. One the one hand there is the visible, beautiful, shiny and smooth exterior of the body, and the luxury of the interior for the passengers. One the other hand is the multitude of engineering, often oily but (hopefully) unseen components that make the car move. Great to see both sides on your videos.
Definitely learned some fascinating engineering and design details of one of my favorite classic cars in this video. Brilliant as always.
Wow Ian. Anyone lucky enough to work with you can only count themselves as truely lucky. To be afforded the opportunity to learn is wonderful for the lucky few. We need people like you to transfer the knowledge to the next group
It's Sunday, that means Ian Tyrrell's workshop and Harry's garage
Wow, the livestream sounds exciting ! I've put it on my agenda
See you there!
Elvis also gifted a white one to his wife Priscilla that’s currently in the Graceland Museum In Tennessee
Even though I'm most knowledgeable about Italian cars, I can and definitely do appreciate these great classic Mercedes Benz models, hailing from the days when Mercedes really built its cars like nobody else. Always a pleasure to learn from you, Iain; thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience with us all, and sure I'll tune in for the live stream!
Thank you! See you there.
Lovely car, but I prefer those other wheels with the centre part pained in the body's colour.
Iain is THE MAN! So very smart and he's a classic treasure much more than any car LOL. Of course he knows all the little specs and tricks on so many cool old cars like the Pagoda. And just watching and listening to him is a real treat! Thank you for the great channel and videos! It's hard work making them I know!
Thank you! This is so nice to hear. I really appreciate your support.
@iain_tyrrell amazing knowledge. I'm loving the videos and learning more. I was never blessed with much brains and would have loved to have done what you've done but not everyone can be that clever.
Love my 280...the beautiful noise at 3k rpm and above is so lovely...the only car that you dont care if the radio doesnt work
What a fabulous episode once again with such profound mastery with a distinctive style for quite uncomplicated sounding tuition of intricate matters... I must admit that the W113 has been lacking attention from my side somewhat since I have been of the opinion that the succeeding R107 actually brought back a powerful design after the 190 and 300 SL. The W113 is exceptionally elegant and characteristic nonetheless but has been overshadowed by the R107 perhaps. Well, at least in my mind. Wonderful! Thank you so much again.
Such incredible feedback - thank you so much!
Nerdy Excursions!
If you ever write a book, there's the title!
Another great episode!
Thanks for taking the time from your work to answer so many comments, Iain!
Even though I spend quite a bit of time on RUclips, Iain drove me to my first use of the subscribe button, and the like button. Your videos never disappoint and I’m going to take the time to go back and like all of your videos because I want RUclips to give me more of THIS!
Ive recently discovered this channel and have sent everything I've watched to my chums. I have to refer to Mr. Tyrell as Mr. Tyrell as he is a true gentleman. Obviously i love all of the wide variety of cars but for me depth of knowledge and finesse are beyond compare but clearly its the "just so" factor that matters most. Wonderful.
Thank you so much! Regards, Mr. Tyrrell.
Actually Porsche 964 -> 1994 was the last 911 that had mechanically adjusted valves. 993 has almost the same air cooled 3.6 engine but they didn't have to be adjusted anymore. Cheers.
Writing this before I watch,
Can't wait to tuck in to some Tyrrell's Classic Workshop
Iain, every episode is so informative and amazing. Food for the “ Car guys” brain. Thanks ! I am full until the next Tyrell’s meal of awesome.
I had an Eargle Etype lightweight that originally belonged to Wyn Percy. From outside looking in gorgeous. But not hugely roomy. My Pagoda Mercedes far better but oh oh so underpowered. I was lucky to find Lars Rombelsheim of Laro Sportswagon in Germany. Using my original engine he stroked it to 230 BHP and 3.3 litres. Now it’s a match for Porsches Dinos and Etype’s of the day. But the build quality beats all the others. Fabulous car
I wonder if the solid aluminium doors was an attempt to improve the safety cell of the convertible chassis. As a side note I think classic MB owners overestimate the strength of their cars. While my 123 has the bank vault clunk when I close the door, especially with the window down, I have no illusions as to the outcome in a head on with a modern car. Still much safer than many other classics, or a bike!
Iain, I'm a Mercedes-Benz owner-driver for 20 plus years so I'm blatantly biased toward the marque. I enjoyed how you described the door as "a lump of aluminium"; at this point I've driven most of the MB models & they are all built like Panzers. I noticed the Pagoda hood opened from the back, "clamshell" hood, which I never saw before on an MB. You clearly are an MB expert: one question: is the Pagoda the only MB that had a clamshell hood or are there others?
What else can I say....BRILLIANT , BRILLIANT , BRILLIANT !!! gah (Eltham, Vic, Australia)
2007, I was offered a 280 SL in white, with the rare 5 spd 'box for, in your money, $12K pounds. How I regret not buying it. NZ.
According to Jason Cammisa, Prince Motors of Japan had a license to produce the Mercedes inline 6 engines. Nissan bought Prince Motors in 1966 and inherited the license. The 4 cylinder in the 510 and the 6 cylinder in the 240Z are based on the Mercedes engine.
I would walk out in the morning to find the grill missing off my early Mini about five times! I ended up putting a cheap repro grill on and they left it alone... Peckham 1990s.
Another wonderful video, so informative, and I love Iain's gentle yet naughty sense of humour. He was just bursting to go all "Carry On" with the lobes gag, brilliant. Thank you.
Jay Lenos Garage have featured the 1911 Pierce-Arrow with cast aluminium doors 🙂 (i just hope my memory is correct here)
What does the 280SL Pagoda have in common with Iain...they both ooze class.
One does one's best. 😊
My understanding is that Nissan acquired another Japanese company that had licensed the Merc engine design but had shortened it into a 4 cyl. Nissan took that design and made it back into a 6 cyl for the 240z. So the similarities are not just superficial.
I’ve always loved the Pagoda. Today I learned more about them than ever. Well done, Iain. Cheers!
One of the very best automotive channels on RUclips. Thanks, Tyrrell.
HAS CORY GOT THE GREATEST HAIR OR WHAT!!! 😊😊😊😊
Prince Motor Company used the same OHC setup on its Prince Skyline 6 cylinder G7 engine.
Wow!!! Naught point naught of excellent knowledge 👏 😊❤
Whenever Iain does these special announcements, I get flash back to those days of television where they would go : we interrupt the program for some important breaking news. And you would kinda lean forward in your armchair.
I hope you'll tune in for the one next Sunday?
Facinating episode. Why does the Countach in the bacground have its number plate fuzzed out in some shots and not others ? 🤔
Who'd have even guessed about the headlights? You're always learning something from Iain Tyrrell's channel. I've seen a lot of these for sale over the years, in various conditions, but never noticed that detail.
Can watch Mr Tyrrell talking about cars all day long. Especially about Mercedes. Would be great to see CLK W209 with such a wealth of knowledge . Thank you.
Beautiful car,just a shame about the more modern looking alloys it has. Weren’t they steel wheels with full wheel chrome covers
Glorious sounding Mercedes straight six.
Divinos adorables los mas viejitos mas aun gracias hermoso video Sonia G Nielsen💝💝👏👏👏
HAHA 😄 ILL CATCH THE LIVE AFTER IAN, LOVE YA BRO! KIND REGARDS FROM NEW ZEALAND 🇳🇿 😊
I've heard that the DB engineers had problems with lubrication of the diesel injection pumps used, because petrol has little lubricity when compared to diesel fuel, They used extensive modification to overcome that. Alternatively, they could have just added two stroke oil.
The best sportscar of its time.!
I love the early thin bumper mercedes roadsters, the bumpers remind me of the XK120 thin bumpers... they are so unobtrusive AND allow the lines of the car to shine.
My Dad had a 67 250SL , what a great car.
Its time for a Lancia Stratos in your show🥰Regards from Holland
Wow what a beautiful car (pagoda), that’s one lucky owner.
I love this channel. Honestly if this video had been 90 minutes long I would have watched it. And still wished for 90 minutes more. Thanks for doing these videos - I'm sure there are great efforts behind the scenes that we don't see, but they're surely appreciated by all! Good luck in the live-stream!
Iain, Please! Never, never ever feel like you need to apologise for anything, and I mean anything! It is a total priveledge and an honour for all of us for you to take the time out of your no doubt busy daily life to witter on, nerd out, segway and digress just to make these magnificent videos, which personally I could watch for hours and just can't get enough of!
The closest my memory can get to a billet alloy door frame is the billet alloy hinge mechanism on the Koenigseggm’s!
That valve and cam setup looks like Ford OHC Pinto engine
Hey, do you know of OEM parts dealer for merc W123
nerdy .......i love it !
So many things to learn !
Cast aluminium doors with an aluminum skin.
I knew that there was aluminium used but i never knew that is was that huge amount of material was used.
The pagode is one of my dream cars .....gosh i have so many dream cars..........................
Thank you again and again for all these videos and the work which comes along with them.
Also i like how you involve your employes and treating them well infront of the camera.
I am sure you treating them also good when the camera is not rolling ;-)
Re: cast body parts. Tesla are producing complete diecast bodies.
@27:03 who else besides me wanted the shot to remain on Iain to see the Renault dropped off? :)
Vielen Dank für Ihr wunderbares Video über die Pagode. Mr. Tyrell, Sie sind immer äußerst informativ, unterhaltsam und verkörpern auf so lässig-sympathische Weise die Faszination, die diese alten klassischen Fahrzeuge für uns alle bedeuten. Großartig!
Vielen Dank für die netten Worte!
Awesome. Just home from work. Greetings from Australia.
Love my Iain Tyrrell Classic Cars shirt. It's a great conversation starter at Car meets. Looking forward to next week.
Delighted to know you love it! See you next Sunday!
Wonderful informative video and such a lovely accent 👌
Fantastic presentation, as always! Worth mentioning here is designer Paul Bracq, responsible for this Mercedes masterpiece, and later many great styles for BMW, the original 5-series and more. Keep the vids coming!
Thank you! Yes! I forgot to mention Paul Bracq. I rely on you to fill in the gaps I left. 👏
@@iain_tyrrell Not so many gaps to fill in your very informative vids, Iain. 😎Your efforts are a gift to the car content on YT!
Hope the live stream goes well. Not using Superchats would seem like leaving money on the table. Streamyard to display them on screen, etc.
Thank you - and thanks for the suggestion. This is all a bit new to me!
So glad to have found this channel. You can get as nerdy as you want! Thanks, from a humble W202 owner.
Wonderful cars, I owned a '64 230SL manual for about 8 years in the 2000's and drove it almost daily. The early cars with the tubular headers sound even better. As you said Iain to do anything up behind the dash is a nightmare, heater cables/valves, speedo repair and obviously the wiper linkages. Another reason they seize, apart from lack of use, is there is a tiny drain hole in the recess where those wipers bolt on. The hole gets clogged with dirt/debris, or gets painted over, and the water pools there and seeps down into the spindle. A lot of 60's Benz cars are the same, look for the drain hole and keep it clear.
Love the channel, can't wait for the live stream !!
My grandfather owned Britt Ekland's Pagoda after her
Good evening Iain . Can't tell you how excited l am to have the chance to ask you a question on Sunday ! That FF looked very nice . Regarding the bf109 l have heard and seen k both the RR and Daimler Benz in a mock "dog fight " about 20 years back at a show near Gloucestershire. Sadly it was later written off in a landing accident and now static only . Must say the 109 was very much quieter than the Merlin but was noticeably "smokier " . And these Pagoda's were terrible rust buckets. "Car SOS " restored one and by some margin it was the worst car they ever rebuilt ! (I think they were tucked up ) Thankyou lain .
Thank you for sharing the insight into the differences. See you on Sunday - I hope I can answer it!
Brabus recently restored such a car and sold it at an auction in the USA
One of my past bosses was persuaded to buy a Pagoda in 1990 as an investment and one day I was asked as the resident motor nerd to go to his garage to get the thing started so it could be used at the weekend for posing. It was the first time I had had a close look around a Pagoda, given that this was a supposed investment the driver's door rubbers showed remarkable wear, suggesting that the body was flexing. I did not expect that from a Merc. Indeed, my 1994 W124 500E (the last of the cars built when Merc was run by engineers) is astoundingly solid.
Another great video, thanks Iain. And it's the "nerdy excursions" that give this channel its appeal! 👏
Thanks Jeremy - I'm delighted you think so
Imagine the face on the Clio driver... hehehe
The doors on my Lancia Fulvia coupe are the same construction as my Pagoda's - all aluminum, skin over cast door body. I double checked with a magnet and, yes, all aluminum construction.
Interesting! Do let me know.
Iain Tyrrell is perhaps the only guy of whom I know who could take a drive in a humdrum car like mine, a clapped out Mk IV Triumph Spitfire, and not only would it run better than it ever has, but he would give it the classiest touch it would ever have had. Thank you for yet another wonderful drive in an equally wonderful car!
Iain your videos are nothing but marvellous, your knowledge will sadly one day be missed, it's legendary. Your staff are very fortunate to have a great a great depth of knowledge to learn from.
The amount of knowledge, class and politeness in these videos and people intervining, is truly outstanding.
Really amazing to see this kind of work be done on such awesome vehicles.
I'd emigrate and work in this workshop in a heartbeat 😅
I drove an automatic convertible version back in 92. Beautiful car and an absolute bargain these were back then.
Thanks Ian for your work, quality tv about cars and classics is sadly missing on mainstream tv and you plus several others do a great job. The cars you guide us round are beyond my means but I never feel embarrassed or not worthy of your work, your knack is speaking to “ me” as if I’m the owner… thanks
Always such an informative and pleasant half hour. Thank you.
Just a thought. To be an apprentice to Iain would surely be career defining. Please do continue his efforts and manner.
Addictive sound as you open her up through the rev range. So clean, with just the right amount of edge. Glorious!
Brilliant to see technical knowledge passed on like this. Great video Iain. 🇨🇦
Love this car