The LUT Workflow Explained (Part 1) | DaVinci Resolve
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Today I explain the ideal technical LUT workflow! Enjoy!
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I think you should go a bit more click-baity with the title and say, "The most important video about LUTs you'll ever see". Seriously. This video made me realize I've been doing it wrong for almost a year now.
I don't like click-baity titles, but this certainly is the most important video about LUTs you will ever see. :)
Same here! Though it wouldn't be click bait in this example :D
"Filmmaker reveals CINEMATIC LUTs?! (MIND = BLOWN)" Guaranteed 2x views.
Agree, VERY informative and very generous, liked and subscribing for sure!
Same! So glad I watched this!
Thank you. I have been so confuse about what you are talking about. But now it feels like I know. Especially if I want to use a lut in the beginning. I have been thinking a bit that it had been a bit forbidden to use a lut in the beginning. But it seems like it is okay to use it in the beginning if I do it the right way. I did not know I could use two luts in a video, but it seems fear enough to use a lut in the beginning and in the end. I will try it out. Thanks.
This is so valuable!
the best!
Why is it necessary to do these transforms outside of the settings? They should be already specific used in the IDT / colour management settings for the project? When I grade, I set an IDT and the output transforms in the settings .. that’s it done! Can then grade as I want in the colour page without transforms cluttering the page or losing any detail!
ACES and RCM are two good solutions (I have a video on RCM in addition to this one). However, there are a multitude of reasons you may want to do the transforms directly in the node graph. For instance, you may prefer to balance your shots in the original camera native space, but then perform secondary corrections in 709. There also may be instances when you want to perform operations in a linear space, then transform back to log. Working in a variety of spaces/curves within a single grade is quite common.
good practise, but surely you could also just pull down the gain in the same node as the lut?
I'm new to color grading and am wondering if there is a difference between using a lut, opposed to making adjustments manually to color, darks, lights, etc, to get the same visual result. Does this make sense? If there is a difference, could you explain? Thanks!
Good info. Any chance someone can tell me where to find that broadcast output LUT?
Hello Avery i will love to work with you on a movie project. What contact can i reach you with? Hope to hear from you. Cheers
Very useful, thanks Avery!
Thanks Curtis!!
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You guys have both helped me so much, in innumerable ways.
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Dude your tutorials in colorgrading are by far the best! Very well explained, for super beginners or fairly advanced people.
Keep up the good work!
I was just about to write the exact same thing... Make a full tutorial and put on Udemy or something similar! Would sell a ton...
Hi Avery I want to know a bit more about that broadcast safe node. What do we see if it's not there? The shadow details gone? Would it be the same as you clip it manually?
So this is a hard thing to search, A lut that gives you the colorspace of RUclips. So tough to search because it gives me youtube videos of colorspace or lut workflow haha.
When i export, even using the youtube preset. my dark areas are pushed higher and look a bit faded vs the true black i had set prior.
Any idea? Thanks for all your time, love the channel!
Hey Enrique! The color space of RUclips (and all online material) is rec709 gamma 2.2 (sRGB). That said, it sounds to me like you have either a gamma mismatch problem, or an issue with full/video levels.
Try importing the exported video back into Resolve, and see if it still looks wrong there. If it looks correct, then your video player is at fault (QuickTime is notorious for having gamma issues if you're using that). If it still looks wrong though, try setting your levels to "video" in the deliver page before exporting.
@@averypeck Awesome, thanks! I'll try this out today. I Appreciate the quick response! The YT preset has them set to auto, but i changed that to be set to full. But i've never tried Video.. hmm...
@@RickyTinez Ah, that would be the issue then! Video levels are standard for web and TV material; full or data levels are typically used for cinema delivery.
Why not set your project colourspace to DR Wide?
Would a Sony to Rec 709 be considered a input lut or a output lut? whats the proper way to edit my sony footage using a rec 709 lut? Should I apply it first to my last node and work backward?
Sorry to be late to the party here. As for "Standard Practice" described at 1:40 please note that (1) Nodes can encapsulate many functions, and (2) the Resolve "Order of Operations" applies LGG settings (and many others) before it applies the 3D LUT. Therefore, it's perfectly reasonable to use a single node for the 3D LUT and to use LGG as well as Curves, Contrast/Pivot, and event Saturation within that node as they all apply before the 3D LUT is applied.
what he said
Spent the whole day trying to get the information that you had in this video. Great job! (Subscribed).
Honestly, one of the most knowledgeable artists out there. Glad to see you back! Looking forward to more! Thank you for this.
Thank you for going over this! You’re the real MVP!!
Do colour management settings play a part in this setup? If so can you tell us what settings to apply for a preset?
Dude, your color grading tutorials are amazing! I've learned so much, thank you so much!
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Finally new tutorial! 🙌 wohoo
Thanks for being patient my friend :) More to come!
Normally I don’t comment but man...you have really good videos. Well done!
This deserves a big thumbs up. Maybe put this on Blackmagic's website, it's better than their explanations.
Thanks for the tutorial, Avery. Curious though why you would use a conversion LUT instead of using the Resolve color Management for converting from LOT to Rec 709? Or is this tutorial really for those who are NOT using Resolve (even though you are demonstrating it with Resolve)???
asking myself the same right now. I think hes just show casing a different workflow
this was my question too as it sort of contradicts his other great vid - can you clarify best practice Avery - cheers! great vid nonetheless
Avery - How does this work with RED .r3d footage shot in DRAGONcolor2/REDgamma4? Is this similar to a Rec709 LUT? Do I need to convert to REDlogfilm first, then pull back any overexposed areas, then apply a Rec709 LUT?
Thank you, very clear instruction, just learned a lot
When using a LUT for broadcast safe values in Resolve as in 6:37, keep in mind that Resolve uses full RGB levels internally and will normally scale to video levels when rendering unless you tell it otherwise. Therefore clipping the black level above zero doesn't make much sense and is kind of misleading.
Thank you. This answers so many of my questions. Ace.
Quick question Avery. How do you convert iPhone 13 footage to Rec709? Struggling to find an answer to this and am being forced to use my iPhone since my sony died on me!
Great! Thank You!
First hat's off man your vids are amazing value. Then would that mean that using RCM to convert to REC709 as explained in a previous video could make my clips clip before being able to work on them ? If so how'd you recommend working ?
So good! This makes Resolve look a little less intimidating
Avery!!! When are you coming back? Common dude! GYST!!
Thank you so much for sharing byfar the best tutorial I’ve seen online over LUTS……
I created a look i like for some videos that I've been adding to new vídeos. The issue I have is that I have to drag over the lut and then copy paste color settings from previous timeline on top of it. i tried editing the original color settings but i can't get the same look without adding new color settings on top of the already set lut. i tried creating a second lut from the color corrections I was putting on top of the first lut and adding them together (like you show in the video) but the result is not the same as when I copy paste color from original timeline on my first lut. Its similar but not the same. I want to combine the color to make one lut to be able to add to new videos instead of adding lut and having to go back and copy color settings from previous timeline. I'm not sure is I explained that too well. LUT1+copypaste color from original timeline=correct color / LUT1 + LUT2 (created from copy/paste color) NOT working the same. Any ideas to be able to add first LUT plus color settings into new LUT?
Awesome video! Question; I’m working in DaVinci Resolve to correct & grade footage out of an URSA Mini Pro. The grade looks awesome in Resolve but as soon as it’s exported and uploaded to RUclips, it looks desaturated and “wimpy” with a slight green shift. What’s the trouble??
You said you can use the output lut for such things as film print emulation... Does this mean if I am using filmconvert LUTs I should apply them at the end as final output LUT?
what's the difference between the input lut and using openfx color space transformation? I was tought I should use the openfx one on the second note. Thanks
You are the only person I have ever watched that thoroughly explains the how and why of coloring in terms and in a manner that those who don't already know the material can understand. I learned more about coloring from the first video I watched of yours than all the others I watched!
awesome. first time here. watching from Africa, i am glued
thanks for explaining the process step by step - loved it
can you explain the difference between a 1d and 3d lut ? Thanks
Very informative video! You got a new follower...
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Very well explained, thank you!
Amazing video. Matter of factly and well done.
Kind of like a pedal board for guitar. Everything effects everything else
That's a great analogy!
Amazing tutorial as always; keep it up!
Your videos are one of the best sets of tutorial videos I've seen. Knowledge, voice tone, and pace are just perfect. More videos please!
Exactly what I was looking for, thanks
Excellent tutorial. Thank you!
Great tutorial, Avery.
Nice to see you here, Jon.
Super helpful! Thank you so much.
I have been struggeling with this exact subject. This is very helpful!
So in project settings, under color management, what are the best settings for color spaces-input, timeline, output, etc? Isn’t that essentially doing what you’re doing here with LUTs? Converting? If I have BMPCC4k footage, that would be the “input color space”, correct?
it's kinda the same but offers less control
Great job... what is lut is ur output???
What are your Camera Raw settings?
Even in 2022, It's so useful for beginners like me to learn new things everyday.Thanks man
that LUT on the end does not make it broadcast safe, just export to a video range codec such as ProRes and you'll be fine. But if you export ProRes with that LUT on, all you'll have is massively raised black levels
I know :) I'm using it as an example since there's a clear visual representation on the scopes of what the LUT is doing.
Nicely explained! The one thing I´m looking for is where the LUT is when applying it to the clip, not as a node. I´m having a discussion with an pro cinematographer and he is putting his LUT on the clip and he doesnt know where in the chain its applied. I will link your video if someone asks me about my workflow again. (thumbs up)
Thanks! Do you mean applied in the raw tab like for Blackmagic footage? If so, it's applied at the beginning of the order of ops before all other nodes.
Great video! What about the workflow when using groups with group pre-clip, clip, group post-clip, to grade similar shots at once? I usually have my lut on the group post-clip, and I do each clip adjustment pre lut in the clip section. I'm wondering if there would be a trick to be able to do post lut grading too without having to duplicate the full grade on each clip.Thanks and keep it up!
Awesome，Thanks Avery!
This was SOOOOOO helpful holy Jesus
Great Information
Great tutorial , but I have a problem.. I follow yours and other same process but when I do 3 nodes and put the LUT on the third node, when I go back to the second to make fine adjustments it does not work like yours. The highlights and shadows move or change differently, almost like there is a qualifier on them or something. They adjust differently. Hard to explain but it is happening to me on a project right now. If I do adjustments before I put the 3rd node with a out it work just fine, but as soon as I put a 3rd node with the out and go back to the 2nd to try and adjust, it is different how it reacts if that makes sense... really weird and I cannot figure it out... Can you think of any possible reasons this may happen?
I can think of two possible reasons off the top of my head. First, and this may seem silly, but are you using the log wheels instead of the lift gamma gain wheels in the second node? The log wheels are more limited in their adjustment range by default and have sharper transitions than the LGG wheels. Another possibility is that the LUT you're using has some weird stuff going on in the highlights and pre LUT adjustments make that apparent. To test this, you could use another tool like the curves in the 2nd node and see if the problem persists. If it does, it's more likely an issue with the LUT, if it doesn't it's more likely an issue with the wheels. Hope that helps!
My iPhone already shoots on Rec709 i’m guessing. Do I need to do something or apply any output lut?
That's correct! No conversion necessary with a standard 709 profile; just grade to your liking.
the highlight 1st tip already got me
Thank you for sharing! :)
Thought of a question maybe you can answer. Why would you want to do an input LUT vs an output LUT?
Good question! It depends primarily on what the LUT is used for. An input LUT is used any time you need to alter the footage before correction/grading, a color space conversion being a good example. An output LUT on the other hand is applied at the very end, and is used to make sure that the final image always conforms to a certain look or standard. For example, adding a film print emulation LUT at the end of your workflow means that every adjustment you make will be filtered through the LUT before being displayed. In other words, your footage will always be within what the LUT defines as correct for film stock, and never stray outside of that. If you applied that same LUT at the beginning (input) and made your corrections after, you would be able to easily stray outside of what the LUT defines as legal because your adjustments wouldn't be controlled by the LUT in any way. You can try adding a creative LUT at the beginning and end of your workflow to get a better feel of the difference!
I never thought I was doing it wrong. Great insight. now I know why my qualifier keep on struggling to correctly grab the skin tones.
Gold dust! Didn’t realise the huge benefits of using the LUT before the qualifier.
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Very nice tips!!! Thanks!
Great info - thank you.
Seriously! Thank you very much! This video changes my way of editing and made my video's way better!! I subscribe!!!
Thank you!!! This cleared up SO much for me!
Everything you said was very well explained! Definitely going to watch more! Thanks!
Thank you!! I've been doing it all wrong!! Quick question. With the advent of BlackMagick's BRAW footage, does this still apply? Would you do any adjustments at the raw level of the clip before applying any LUTs? Thanks!
Never understood the do everything before the LOG to REC709 lut. A real pain to work like that.
Switched to ACES anyway.
Looking forward to the follow up video using creative LUTs! Amazing tutorial.
Great video. Quick question, why would you grade in Rec.709 when your output is P3?
P3 is a wider gamut, so you would be losing colour fidelity. Would it not be better for your working space to be as wide as possible, like ACES 2065, before transforming to your output space?
Cheers :)
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Hello Avery, thank you very much for this tutorial. Learned a lot. Color correcting and Grading is becoming addictive.
Could you please please teach us what workflow you would use to correct and grade DJI mavic Cinelike-D and D-log, and when we should use each one using Davinci resolve 16? 🙏🙏🙏🙏
How about using the LUT in the middle? So all the primary corrections go before the LUT and the secondaries come after. How does this sound?
Hello Avery, thank you very much for this tutorial. Learned a lot. Color correcting and Grading is becoming addictive.
Could you please please teach us what workflow you would use to correct and grade DJI mavic Cinelike-D and D-log, and when we should use each one? 🙏🙏🙏🙏
super cool tutorial !!!
I've been doing this intuitively. Turns out there's a reason it works. Lol. Nice....
This just saved me so much idiotic colour grading!! Thank you!!!
Dude! every video of yours that I watched is gold! Hope you keep it going. Thanks!
u know ur shit respect
Avery, You should release a platform to teach color grading from basics to complex. Like a subscription model $15/month.
LUTS and workflow made simple and clear... Thank you!!
Anyone using LUTs should watch this. Very valuable information!
One question, why don't use at the begining of the worklow a REC709 conversion node only used to select an alpha skintones. Once skintones are selected just switch off the REC709 conversion node and keep alpha (parallel node) ? Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience here, it's super instructive and useful !
Thank you so much for making these videos, these are really very helpful for lot of us.
But i have a confusion regarding color grading workflow in da vinci resolve, i understand your thoughts on the LUT WORKFLOW But Resolve also have some features like RCM and ACES workflow on which you also made a video. My point is, what is the difference between a RCM and ACES Workflow and this LUT workflow? Which one is better and which one applies for what circumstances?
It's my request and it would also be very helpful if you share your thoughts on this matter.
Nice video! thanks for sharing knowledge.
Now, I have a very specific question. You make an example in the video for output LUT (broadcasting) and I understand it, but if you can explain more about output LUT with another example to understand perfectly
This was GREAT! A ton of value packed into this quick 8 minutes. Definitely a good way to piece together some understanding of a workflow to adopt and make your own. Preciate the work put in this one #newsub
My luts get blown out into random RGB colours when I apply them to my footage. Looks like the Predator heat map.
Thank you! This answered all my questions. I'm so glad I now know I was using LUTs in a way that limited my footage's potential. Can't wait to grade my next project now!
I have been struggling with my bmpcc footage looking like garbage for the past year because I had know idea how the lut workflow worked. I'm excited to get back to grading!